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Author Topic: Bottlecaps 2.1 UPDATE REQUIRED - HARDFORK JULY 4 2014 to 200% Annual PoS  (Read 333565 times)
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November 20, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
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I have over 3 mil CAP on cryptopia, will I ever be able to withdraw them?

As of right now, no.

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November 20, 2017, 11:34:07 PM
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New parameters:
3 min for PoS - 20*24*365*100=17M5
6 min for PoW - 10*24*365*10=876K
PoW+PoS - 18M4 max new coins per year.

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November 21, 2017, 12:23:09 AM
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To Tranz, you can make hardfork and rollback to block 325320, when last attack started, but it return to Cryptopia only 50% or less of stolen coins and not solve others CAP problems. We wait, wait ... and you say that have no time.
To all, CAPP fully new coin and not destroy CAP, if someone else fix it and buy on free market 36M coins and return it to Cryptopia I will be glad.

I do have very limited time this is true. Rey and I have been working on things 1 thing at a time.

And I agree with you, no reason we can't fix CAP, and reboot it at the same time.
But I think we need to get people able to withdraw thier CAP from Cryptopia first before you start your chain. Or we have to get Cryptopia to agree to a coinswap of sorts, which in fact will logically destroy CAP, but not physically.

Edit: @vamp, also I would like to give you the public key to use for the CAPP server. I will hold the priv key, as a segregation of powers.  Let me know if this is acceptable.

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November 21, 2017, 12:54:27 AM
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Cryptopia not have CAP in wallet, hacker sell 18M CAP and then withdraw all available coins.
They can't return coins. This is my ticket:
"As I see, Bottlecaps (CAP) was 51% attacked and you lost about 36M coins. We decide start new CAP chain with latest codebase and compensate yours lost from premine. New ticker CAPP instead of CAP, coin swap rate will be 10 old coins to new 1 coin (you must reduce users balance in 10 times)
I am new developer for CAPP and If you agree and not take payment for new listing, we start development. After start new coin, just give me new address and total balance on exchange."

This is Cryptopia response:
"We have thought this over and we really don't think we should be giving out free coin listings just because coins make mistakes and get 51%ed.
You could see this going wrong with coins deliberately 51%ing themselves to gain a free listing.

We are happy with you premining new coins on an updated version of the current wallet. We don't mind if you updated all the way to a fresh new modern code base, as long as the block chain and all the transaction IDs stay intact.

But if you want to start from a fresh block chain will charge a relisting fee. Sorry if this isn't the news you wanted."

So we need hardfork for CAP, then withdraw coins from Cryptopia and then start new coin CAPP and add it to another exchange.

PS. yes, I do not need priv key, if someone else start checkpoint server. And after start new coin, you can fork CAPP to own git directory and continue as main developer. I do it only for not lost my CAP coins, that I start buying when price was 1500 sat.

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November 21, 2017, 10:25:12 PM
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So we need hardfork for CAP, then withdraw coins from Cryptopia and then start new coin CAPP and add it to another exchange.

Which exchange?  I'm also assuming that the coins that would of been pre-mined to cover the 51% loss will no longer be?

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November 21, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
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Some thoughts, it would be great to still have the old name, Bottlecaps instead of Bottlecapps, etc.
Have any other coins been hacked recently on Cryptopia?  I know they've been having problems with wallets (BOAT) that other exchanges didn't have problems on.
I really LOVE Cryptopia and have lots of fun daytrading there.  Regardless of that, I'm impartial to this coin's fate there.  Meaning, if they are somehow sloppy and partially are responsible for their loss, should those holding CAPS foot their bill?  Isn't this coin working on another exchange now, like Tradesatoshi?

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November 22, 2017, 01:13:16 AM
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Some thoughts, it would be great to still have the old name, Bottlecaps instead of Bottlecapps, etc.
Have any other coins been hacked recently on Cryptopia?  I know they've been having problems with wallets (BOAT) that other exchanges didn't have problems on.
I really LOVE Cryptopia and have lots of fun daytrading there.  Regardless of that, I'm impartial to this coin's fate there.  Meaning, if they are somehow sloppy and partially are responsible for their loss, should those holding CAPS foot their bill?  Isn't this coin working on another exchange now, like Tradesatoshi?

Given light of Cryptopia's response, CAP will remain as CAP cryptopia and CAPP will just be a new coin that will trade on a different exchange when it is listed.

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November 22, 2017, 01:30:50 AM
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So we need hardfork for CAP, then withdraw coins from Cryptopia and then start new coin CAPP and add it to another exchange.

Which exchange?  I'm also assuming that the coins that would of been pre-mined to cover the 51% loss will no longer be?
CAPP coin will be premined only with current CAP supply, without compensations to Cryptopia.
Hacker have about 30M CAP now, and sell it on Cryptopia after deposit resuming.
It was not fist attack, first was in September. I start develop test version  tomorrow and after public testing add premine and restart chain.
Privat key from checkpoint server will keep Tranz, not me.

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November 22, 2017, 05:10:31 AM
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..........
You could see this going wrong with coins deliberately 51%ing themselves to gain a free listing.
..........

lol what a business approach, topia guys could've come from an old ferengi dynasty,
how bout as easily kill the shit themselves just to obtain some extra cash for relisting
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November 22, 2017, 07:39:40 AM
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I decide take richlist snapshot today. You anyway not get yours CAP from exchange.
I remove some inactive and exchange addresses. If you not find yours address let me know.

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November 22, 2017, 11:57:34 AM
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nice idea  Smiley Now swap or have/to let 2 blockchain (CAP and CAPP) ?

I decide take richlist snapshot today. You anyway not get yours CAP from exchange.
I remove some inactive and exchange addresses. If you not find yours address let me know.

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November 22, 2017, 05:33:48 PM
 #3692

I decide take richlist snapshot today. You anyway not get yours CAP from exchange.
I remove some inactive and exchange addresses. If you not find yours address let me know.


Looks good. I'm on there.

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November 22, 2017, 07:20:46 PM
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I decide take richlist snapshot today. You anyway not get yours CAP from exchange.
I remove some inactive and exchange addresses. If you not find yours address let me know.


Looks good. I'm on there.

Verified my address as well.

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November 22, 2017, 07:22:31 PM
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So we need hardfork for CAP, then withdraw coins from Cryptopia and then start new coin CAPP and add it to another exchange.

Which exchange?  I'm also assuming that the coins that would of been pre-mined to cover the 51% loss will no longer be?
CAPP coin will be premined only with current CAP supply, without compensations to Cryptopia.
Hacker have about 30M CAP now, and sell it on Cryptopia after deposit resuming.
It was not fist attack, first was in September. I start develop test version  tomorrow and after public testing add premine and restart chain.
Privat key from checkpoint server will keep Tranz, not me.

I know, just making sure we're not paying off Cryptopia just for the hell of it if they're not doing anything for it.

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November 22, 2017, 11:02:58 PM
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hmm to day i have free cap on the wallet  Huh Im not alone  Roll Eyes

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November 23, 2017, 12:38:13 AM
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Some more time should be given to those that have not been aware of what is going on to get their coins into a single address. I thought we had until January 1st. before a snapshot would be taken.
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November 23, 2017, 01:21:54 AM
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Some more time should be given to those that have not been aware of what is going on to get their coins into a single address. I thought we had until January 1st. before a snapshot would be taken.
Just give me addresses that you have with balance less then 60K.

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November 23, 2017, 03:18:39 AM
 #3698

Some more time should be given to those that have not been aware of what is going on to get their coins into a single address. I thought we had until January 1st. before a snapshot would be taken.
Just give me addresses that you have with balance less then 60K.

what about all the coins on cryptopia? If you want to start your own fork it should be done once cryptopia is settled and the community can withdrawal their coins. I believe that Tranz is working on an update.



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November 23, 2017, 04:37:38 AM
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Cryptopia have zero balance of CAP. CAP and CAPP will be 2 different coins, like ETH and ETC.
I myself have 1M CAP on Cryptopia.

Now I can see more addresses in richlist and add accounts with 40K and more.

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November 23, 2017, 11:58:24 AM
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Some more time should be given to those that have not been aware of what is going on to get their coins into a single address. I thought we had until January 1st. before a snapshot would be taken.
Just give me addresses that you have with balance less then 60K.

What is the deadline for reporting additional addresses?
I will try and consolidate as they stake, but currently I sit on ~40 addresses with less than 40k
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