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Question: How many BottleCaps do you own?
None - 81 (39.3%)
1-1k - 27 (13.1%)
1k-10k - 26 (12.6%)
More than 10k - 72 (35%)
Total Voters: 206

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Author Topic: Bottlecaps 2.1 UPDATE REQUIRED - HARDFORK JULY 4 2014 to 200% Annual PoS  (Read 330115 times)
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October 27, 2017, 11:36:33 PM
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When you vote yes or no please let us know how much CAP you have.
I have 10M.

Rather than a declaration of ownership by those participating and/or lurking why not use two of the existing claimed addresses:

One of Yours = Yes, FORK IT!
Ej36HXyQjGPyzhw7semZt562nbpUGZmgfP
http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CAP/address.php?address=Ej36HXyQjGPyzhw7semZt562nbpUGZmgfP

Sofaking = No, UnFORKed with
F2JcokPB94AQmMV11fciePo7MSvrsjuFQV
http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CAP/address.php?address=F2JcokPB94AQmMV11fciePo7MSvrsjuFQV

Send at ONE Bottlecap from an address to vote with the full weight of that address' content (all votes final, CAPs being kept, yadda, yadda...).

So far you're up quite a few YES votes to my NO vote. Voters can post the transaction ID in thread if they'd like. My thinking is that some impromptu 'governance' does not require much beyond that.

Commence governance'ing  

***edited to include - 'No' allowing Vampirus to continue working on SCIFI coin unfettered by ongoing notions of taking over Bottlecaps. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2092094.0
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October 28, 2017, 12:13:27 AM
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If all not want my initial proposal , I can do fork without change PoS rate and max reward.
Only fix retarget algo, remove PoW and change max time drift from 15 to 5 min.
All other fixes not need fork: protect from time-shift nodes and reducing CPU, memory usage.

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October 28, 2017, 12:36:53 AM
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If all not want my initial proposal , I can do fork without change PoS rate and max reward.
Only fix retarget algo, remove PoW and change max time drift from 15 to 5 min.
All other fixes not need fork: protect from time-shift nodes and reducing CPU, memory usage.

Maybe if the vote happens to be NO you can work with Tranz on some memory usage fixes he's already implemented in HBN that could be applied to CAPs with your help.
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October 28, 2017, 12:50:25 AM
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I want take code control over CAP, because Tranz abandon CAP. Before, I take most code fix to my coins from CAP.

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October 28, 2017, 01:09:49 AM
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I want take code control over CAP, because Tranz abandon CAP. Before, I take most code fix to my coins from CAP.

I dont know that I'd call it abandoned:

Hi everyone. Just to let you know not dead, still here. Over the next few months I plan to do some with on HBN. If (and this is a big if) I am able to I will try also push some of this over to CAP. But if others want to take my commits and bring them over that would be a good thing.

I'll post here as they happen see if anyone else want to help, or if it is just talk.  My guess is 2018 - 2019 for the final set of commits, with some early ones in 2017.

I'll edit the 'vote' post to include that a vote NO is a vote that you focus your efforts on SCIFI coin instead of trying to take over Bottlecaps.
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October 28, 2017, 01:20:00 AM
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SCIFI coin do not need any enhancement after start. And I control not only SCIFI, also KED, GPL, QBT, BUK, soon create GPL+.
Fix CAP take only 1-3 days for coding and testing.

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October 28, 2017, 01:22:30 AM
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I want take code control over CAP, because Tranz abandon CAP. Before, I take most code fix to my coins from CAP.

There is a big enough userbase here and a $150,000 marketcap.  That's not small change, it represents a lot of people's investments.  If you want to help the coin you have to cooperate with others who have a pre-existing interest and ownership.

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October 28, 2017, 01:39:10 AM
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I want take code control over CAP, because Tranz abandon CAP. Before, I take most code fix to my coins from CAP.

There is a big enough userbase here and a $150,000 marketcap.  That's not small change, it represents a lot of people's investments.  If you want to help the coin you have to cooperate with others who have a pre-existing interest and ownership.
That is why I ask, before start coding. And I am number 1 in richlist (2 homewallets + exchange).

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October 28, 2017, 08:29:36 AM
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I want take code control over CAP, because Tranz abandon CAP. Before, I take most code fix to my coins from CAP.

There is a big enough userbase here and a $150,000 marketcap.  That's not small change, it represents a lot of people's investments.  If you want to help the coin you have to cooperate with others who have a pre-existing interest and ownership.
That is why I ask, before start coding. And I am number 1 in richlist (2 homewallets + exchange).

Caps is not worth $150,000. Market cap is meaningless. The complete order book on cryptopia only cointains orders for 5,346,228 bottlecaps worth 0.22580272 bitcoin. Thats how much caps is really worth.

I support all changes. There is really not much at stake here.

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October 28, 2017, 10:02:42 AM
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So lets get this straight.

We are considering a voting system weighted by size of holding om a proposal from someone who brags about holding ~10% of current supply
That same person admits to be using a supposed exploit only he can fix to cheat the community and unfairly gain coins....

On principle you can go take a running jump.
I wouldn't trust your code anyway




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October 28, 2017, 01:21:04 PM
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So lets get this straight.

We are considering a voting system weighted by size of holding om a proposal from someone who brags about holding ~10% of current supply
That same person admits to be using a supposed exploit only he can fix to cheat the community and unfairly gain coins....

On principle you can go take a running jump.
I wouldn't trust your code anyway






Was going to post the same...  Trust me, I own 10m coins... I won't prove it because if I did then you would prove that you didn't trust me and I'm protecting you from having to prove anything by not proving anything...

Tranz isn't gone and he's been working on his favorite first... and then will merge the changes over to cap...  I'm not worried.

Regarding the market cap... it's higher than paycoin... why are we thinking of treating it as such?

This space not for rent...
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October 28, 2017, 03:28:51 PM
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If you not want - wait Tranz.
And for cheating I use standard 2.2.2 wallet.
Anyone may wait when I increase percentage and use it for mining himself.
Goodbye  Sad

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October 28, 2017, 03:37:14 PM
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yeah it was nice try, not bad for a ferengi ...
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October 28, 2017, 06:01:55 PM
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Perhaps we should vote to hard fork with some extra code to choke off the wallets of known POS cheats.. Ehh it's a thought


Anyway feel free to take a leaf from PressTab book and hard-fork a new chain, make it significantly different and fix the (cough) bug.
I'm sure we'd all be happy to get duplicate coins on another chain which we can trade ...on  ..  .

..... Ah I see .. easy to buy cheap coins on an abandoned (allegedly) chain and suggest (hijack) development when the coin has long standing listings on exchanges....

Harder to get new coin listed. Doesn't that come at some cost ??

No, go with the PressTab..  created something new and respectfully left the old chain to get on and succeed on it's own merits.
No muss, No FUD, no BS

Ferengi vs Jedi .. I'm Jedi all the way MoFo. This ain't the coin you're looking for. It's a question of manners and politeness, you know, good breeding.

I think most people in CAP are happy with Tranz and not overly concerned that we are or are not making MASSIVE PROFIT but enjoying the vibe all the same.



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October 28, 2017, 10:41:30 PM
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SCIFI coin do not need any enhancement after start. And I control not only SCIFI, also KED, GPL, QBT, BUK, soon create GPL+.
Fix CAP take only 1-3 days for coding and testing.

I want take code control over CAP, because Tranz abandon CAP. Before, I take most code fix to my coins from CAP.

There is a big enough userbase here and a $150,000 marketcap.  That's not small change, it represents a lot of people's investments.  If you want to help the coin you have to cooperate with others who have a pre-existing interest and ownership.
That is why I ask, before start coding. And I am number 1 in richlist (2 homewallets + exchange).

If you not want - wait Tranz....Goodbye  Sad

That escalated quickly, I was happy to see voting on your 5% stakeholder proposal. The 7M in your claimed address and the #1 in richlist address on Cryptopia - with orders parked around 35-45 since April - account for your holdings? I'd have to agree with others that your approach was slightly presumptous. When you took 'Control' of the coins in your list (e.g., KED, GPL, QBT, BUK, etc.) did you come to them as the sell-wall Messiah?

With Bottlecaps being one of the first 50 cryptcurrencies (37th, 38th, 39th, ??) created i'll be glad to support the network awhile longer, wallet staking, validating rules and hodling.

I'm more interested in the outcome of the vote as a barometer for eyeballs on this thread.
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October 29, 2017, 01:18:52 PM
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[CAPP] BottleCapsPlus

Because original CAP was abandoned and users not want any change and protect old coin, I create new coin,
with fresh chain, advanced protected code (Novacoin or Hyperstake) with parameters almost like in HYP.
All balances will be premined and send to first 250 users from Richlist. http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CAP/richlist.php?count=250
Start time, January 2018. Additional parameters will be later. If you want participate, keep yours CAP on address within first 250 in Richlist
on 1 January 2018.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2329756.new#new

Not bothering to mention that here though.
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October 29, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
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[CAPP] BottleCapsPlus

Because original CAP was abandoned and users not want any change and protect old coin, I create new coin,
with fresh chain, advanced protected code (Novacoin or Hyperstake) with parameters almost like in HYP.
All balances will be premined and send to first 250 users from Richlist. http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CAP/richlist.php?count=250
Start time, January 2018. Additional parameters will be later. If you want participate, keep yours CAP on address within first 250 in Richlist
on 1 January 2018.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2329756.new#new

Not bothering to mention that here though.

What I saw:

I create new coin, with fresh chain

and then...

All balances will be premined and send to first 250 users from Richlist.

Aside from this, not sure how "honest" ya'll consider me... but I'm in that 250 magic wallet zone... so I'll see what happens...

This space not for rent...
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October 29, 2017, 01:58:12 PM
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Well there is not much to be done about it but it speaks volumes about the little Ferengis motives.
He's chosen a bloody good avatar / handle to be fair to him
No self delusion there .lol

So first I'm going to apologise to you guys, seems I might have given the liitle guy ideas.
But true to his nature he's not going to say, Oh Hi community I have found a problem and here is the solutions ... etc etc

He's going to rinse it for every bean he can get out of it and not mention it on the main thread. OK so excellent Ferengi role play

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As a side note I've been considering running my addresses through as many alt chains as I can find just to see where
a coin has been quietly forked without informing the originating chains community.

Good way to cut out a large holding of POS coins by simply not letting anyone know there is a new chain / wallet , as time passes even the biggest holders
become insignificant as they no longer stake.

I'd be gob smacked if I'm the first to think of this but also hope I haven't inadvertently started "Scam 3.0 Ghost chains" or something.




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October 29, 2017, 05:18:15 PM
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Interesting series of events here it seems.  Roll Eyes

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October 29, 2017, 05:27:04 PM
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Rule of acquisition no 239.

Never be afraid to mislabel a product.

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