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June 15, 2018, 02:08:15 PM
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because not only do i feel ripped off, Ive read and see others feel ripped off

and Ive been asking if others have been considering legal action to either join, or start as a class action, to build a stronger case by sharing our evidence

you have felt the need to troll over the last few hours before 2/3 of the world has even had a chance to catch up on the thread

No. You refuse to answer why you are doing it back to front and not getting legal advice as to whether you have a claim or not first. You just ignore that and repeat your grievances.
My feeling is that you grossly exaggerate the legal position and that any professional advice would be to forget about it. I'm as entitled to point that out as you are to complain.

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June 15, 2018, 02:19:00 PM
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Well my legal degrees in commercial law and international law trumps your opinion.

Since my first post I stated my concerns, my investment, and how I felt misslead
and I asked if others left the same, and if anyone was considering legal action

every subsequent post to you has been explaining my position, you seem to be the one flipping all over the place here

the only thing I didn't disclose is my name, my education, everything which laws, my investment and my concerns where documented post 1 and 2
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June 15, 2018, 02:27:05 PM
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Well my legal degrees in commercial law and international law trumps your opinion.

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every subsequent post to you has been explaining my position, you seem to be the one flipping all over the place here

No again. I've been asking one very specific question that you don't answer.

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You refuse to answer why you are doing it back to front and not getting legal advice as to whether you have a claim or not first.

If you really had the intention of making a legal claim you start the process before getting more people involved to make it into a class action. If you wanted to be taken seriously you would have the beginnings of an action to present.

Since my first post I stated my concerns, my investment, and how I felt misslead

That's the only reason you are here, to make some noise.

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June 15, 2018, 02:32:10 PM
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because not only do i feel ripped off, Ive read and see others feel ripped off

and Ive been asking if others have been considering legal action to either join, or start as a class action, to build a stronger case by sharing our evidence
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And if you had perchance read even the first few pages of this thread you would see many many folks including me giving warnings about Halong and their - warped and arrogant- idea of how a business should operate and yet you still bought miners from them? The false advertising by omission (AB required) is totally on-par with how Halong is running things -- and is just another reason why I would never ever buy from them.

No real contact information regarding who runs the biz or where they are located - have fun tracking them down. You do realize that the only people to make money from a class action is the lawyers right? *IF* you win, sure the award will be split among those who were part of the class action - after the legal fees are paid. Speaking of which it looks like the same law firm in Chicago that handles Little Dragon LLC's asicboost patent are the same folks representing Halong Mining and are the only contact info to be found.

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June 15, 2018, 02:38:51 PM
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you no nothing about how things proceed

When you file as plaintiff and list a defendant, you can not then just go and add plaintiffs anyway your now clearly just trolling and a bore
go read a few notes on the difference between a class action / jointing proceeding vs traditional proceedings

the actions proceed in different courts due to the increase dollar value, the evidence is pooled to name a few, and class actions are able to recover a larger pool of money that you could as an individual. they also protect the plaintiffs (as the funds are divided)

Ive got better things to do than sit on my phone arguing with you,

as for you asking any questions, you never once asked why I would consider legal actions or my motivations until your last post (go back and read for yourself)
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June 15, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
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Ive got better things to do than sit on my phone arguing with you,

You give a very good impersonation of the opposite.

When you file as plaintiff and list a defendant, you can not then just go and add plaintiffs

That wasn't what I was saying. I said you would have least consulted a lawyer and have something credible to show that you had a case getting started with a chance of success.

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June 15, 2018, 02:58:23 PM
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yeah yeah good for you. you trolled halongmining in the early days speculating the risks and now your sitting high and mighty saying well you all have buys remorse

however from a commercial perspective some of us entered entered into a contract with halongmining based on the representations they made. that includes representations around performance, capabilities, power consumption, shipping dates and indirectly statements that its competition to bitmain (bitmain can mine any sha256d coin),

halong shipping units for review to the specifications advertised
halong had conversations with myself and no doubt others about the capabilities that the units shipped do not meet
halong on their own website has since changed the product specs to include the performance is only achievable with asicboost (no doubt through advise that they would be making misrepresentations if they didnt disclose) .. btw could only be made available under discover that a class or joint action lawsuit would have the funds to take on

from those perspectives there are avenues for compensation or for the supplier to rectify the issues

you can sit there trolling us all as much as you wont I dont see how that is anyway productive saying 'I told you so', because if we listened to the 'I told you so's' no one would buy anything

did we take a calculated risk in a doggy company .. NO (to clarify that, Im saying Halong is a good company, otherwise we wouldn't have taken the risk)
did halongmining intentionally mislead us .. NO im sure they faced many engineering challenges that fort to overcome to provide us with a product
do I think halong are passionate about there product .. YES

however that does not change the fact the terms of sale, lets call that the sales contract was based on the supplier and exchange of information about set goods
representations direct or indirect where made about those goods

Do though goods meet the specifications published. No they only meet those with caveats that halong announced in the weeks leading up to the first shipments
would that have been important information that buys would have evaluated prior to purchasing the products and evaluating the price of the productions YES
would that have influenced our buying decisions . I can say for me YES that would have, I would have waited 2-3 weeks more and bought 2-3x the amount of S9 for bitmain for the same price

no if you dont understand any of that, well ive got better things to do with my time than explain it to you.

however for those that do, a class/joint action option is a power and cost affective way for us to consider compensation since Halong is making no efforts to resolve the issues


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June 15, 2018, 03:18:53 PM
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no if you dont understand any of that,

I wasn't arguing any of that.

however for those that do, a class/joint action option is a power and cost affective way for us to consider compensation since Halong is making no efforts to resolve the issues

I was pointing out that if you want to be taken seriously about this you would get the obvious first stage done by at least consulting a professional lawyer and getting in writing that they think you have a case with a chance of succeeding. 

well ive got better things to do with my time than explain it to you.

So you keep saying but your actions tell another story. It looks very much like explaining as many times as you can it is your only objective.

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June 15, 2018, 03:24:01 PM
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did we take a calculated risk in a doggy company .. NO (to clarify that, Im saying Halong is a good company, otherwise we wouldn't have taken the risk)
did halongmining intentionally mislead us .. NO im sure they faced many engineering challenges that fort to overcome to provide us with a product
do I think halong are passionate about there product .. YES
Just keep drinking that Kool-aid then... Just how/in what way is Halong a 'good company'?
Frankly from day-1 Halong struck me to be far worse than BFL/AMT/Bitmine.ch/BlackArrow/etc ever were.

As for being 'passionate about their product' - then how about them offering help to pool ops who are interested in letting the T1 join their party, say remote access to a miner for them to test their pool changes with. Hell, even an official thread from them vs this one that began as speculation and then devolved into this would show some pride in their company.

A prime example of how a miner manufacture should run is Canaan with their Avalon miners. Hell, even Bitmain has more transparency and yes, even honesty, than Halong has shown us.

Back to class actions: Look up how the ones against AMT and Bitmine.ch went in 2014. Despite both of the companies horrid actions  - failing to deliver product at all and failing to refund their pre-order sales investomers - not pretty results.

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yeah yeah good for you. you trolled halongmining in the early days speculating the risks and now your sitting high and mighty saying well you all have buys remorse

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Now this is just getting stupid.. And yes, I did buy T1's..  IF you want to mine altcoins, tell the pool operators to update their stratum to support AB.
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June 15, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
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@NotFuzzyWarm

Myrig provided sample DragonMint miners to CKPOOL and KANO.IS (Shipping to Kano was delayed from mishapp at the warehouse) and a few other pool operators. if there are any pool operator who needs remote access, Myrig will provide it for them.  If need a physical device delivery, a loaner can be provided.  (some could be with or without deposit)

Some of the larger pools out there have patches that can be adopted already, but each respective pool operator has to make the decision to implement or not as pool operation to those larger pool is a business enterprise.  I'm sure when they are ready or when things reach their need to activate AsicBoost support, it will be implemented but again, lets respect each pool operator's decision if they chose to implement or not.




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Kudos for your supporting the community by doing that!
However, it still raises the question of why you - a 3rd party - is doing that instead of Halong providing the support. Same with MyRig funding -ck to get the T1 driver working decently. Now perhaps you have an agreement with Halong to handle that end of things (do you?) but driver development and supplying miner access when needed is normally the manufacturers bailiwick. Publicly Halong has done zilch to build support for their own product.

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June 20, 2018, 09:37:47 AM
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I spent $40K on miners with them, and Im p*ssed off they are not hitting the numbers advertise
add in the fact I cant mine other pools I prefer, and I cant mine other altcoins with sha256d that I had asked about prior to the sale



You knew it was a gamble, and were prepared to spend $40k on an unknown company, so don't start bitching when it doesn't quite work out!

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June 20, 2018, 09:25:58 PM
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Yes, I know your point.  May be some explanations to come later but not at this moment.

We can only do our best to help out miners who got us to where we are today... 

and....  Myrig is not an anonymous entity as some forum member insist stating.

If you have MYRIG PSU or DragonMint T1 purchased from Myrig (meaning paid to Myrig) please send support request directly to support@myrig.com to expedite the warranty or repair process.  There is no need to seek authorization from halong as we have to process those under our sales contract to you as customers of Myrig.

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June 21, 2018, 04:32:17 PM
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New here. Lot of bitching and complaining it seems. For the record I am happy w my T1s.
What is the max ambient temperature I can run T1s under? I currently cap the number of miners running when ambient room temp hits 85° F.  Any thoughts this is to high or if I could take it up a little higher. (Presently I need to limit # of miners I run) I would prefer comment from those doing the homegrown setup more than the right way via AC comp room. But all input appreciated.
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June 21, 2018, 04:40:14 PM
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New here. Lot of bitching and complaining it seems. For the record I am happy w my T1s.
What is the max ambient temperature I can run T1s under? I currently cap the number of miners running when ambient room temp hits 85° F.  Any thoughts this is to high or if I could take it up a little higher. (Presently I need to limit # of miners I run) I would prefer comment from those doing the homegrown setup more than the right way via AC comp room. But all input appreciated.

The cooling answers are the same for a small home user and a large farm. AC is never the answer.

The answer is to feed the miners room temperature air and to properly exhaust the heated miner exhaust air from the room. The best way to do this is have a separation of the two so that the hot air cannot come back in and mix with the fresh air intake. Some home users like to duct the hot air out but that just creates more issues with the miners due to static pressure and flow restrictions.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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and....  Myrig is not an anonymous entity as some forum member insist stating.


Can you supply the information that this forum member requested as proof?

I can say that I have a pet pig with wings that can fly here on the forum but that does not mean its true if I cant provide proof to back it up.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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The cooling answers are the same for a small home user and a large farm. AC is never the answer.

The answer is to feed the miners room temperature air and to properly exhaust the heated miner exhaust air from the room. The best way to do this is have a separation of the two so that the hot air cannot come back in and mix with the fresh air intake. Some home users like to duct the hot air out but that just creates more issues with the miners due to static pressure and flow restrictions.

Excellent. Really helpful input. On to plan D.  Thanks! (I have learned the whole vacuum factor lesson of venting the air outside.)
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June 21, 2018, 05:11:11 PM
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I run them on low speed or medium speed not high speed.

I use outdoor air  and vent outdoors.

some will run medium speed at 95f outdoor temp
some need to be low speed at 95f outdoor temp.

in no case has temp gone over 95f this year.

I run 5 of them.

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I run them on low speed or medium speed not high speed.

I use outdoor air  and vent outdoors.

some will run medium speed at 95f outdoor temp
some need to be low speed at 95f outdoor temp.

in no case has temp gone over 95f this year.

I run 5 of them.

Good info.. what is your determinant threshold where you decide low speed vs medium? What measurement / hardware factor are you tracking for this decision?
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