@Sandal_Hat: I actually can't believe I have to defend myself here for doing the exact opposite of what you claim. I must insist that you do a basic fact check before you accuse anyone of "unethical conduct." You could not be any more mistaken about me and Unicornflex. Contrary to your claim, I have never praised Halong Mining for its greatness or otherwise tried to elevate the company for "marketing purposes." Unicornflex never did so either. I am not shilling for Halong or anyone else. I have no secret PR agenda or ulterior motives. Unicornflex has done the exact opposite of what you have claimed. The link you posted in which you allege he is "praising" Halong, he actually does the opposite and excoriates Halong. He made the case on why he has doubts about Halong, and in a constructive manner urged Halong to set the record straight, which Halong declined to do. I have written in detail providing reasoned support for the validity of his concerns. I did so because I shared his concerns. In doing so, I have painstakingly tried to be as objective as possible and provide as much supporting evidence as possible.
The "massive" sales numbers of the DragonMint that he and I shared with this community were intended to show not how "great" Halong Mining is, but rather to demonstrate the potential magnitude of the epic scam that he and I both suspected that Halong Mining could be. I did not share this information for personal gain, but rather to try to help people possibly avoid getting scammed. I have no other motivation. At the time I first started posting in February, I was all but convinced Halong was a scam. I have since written and still believe that we should all consider Halong Mining an illegitimate operation until and unless it reveals its incorporation number and proof that its claimed FCC certification for the DragonMint actually exists. After reputable individuals vouched for the existence of the DragonMint, such as -ck, then and only then, I posted that I felt I would receive the DragonMints for which I had paid, but I still maintained that Halong was not behaving in the way legitimate companies operate, and that all potential buyers should beware.
I know Unicornflex only because I bought some Antminer S9 units from him last year, a transaction that I also shared using the "Trust" feature of this community. I have no interest in promoting or questioning any hardware mining company. I am an actual customer of Halong Mining who demands transparency from them. Support my efforts in that endeavor for our mutual benefit, or don't. Your choice. In my case, I regretted buying from Halong once I realized I could not verify Halong's incorporation. I still regret my purchase. I became even more worried once I learned Halong was unwilling to do anything to help quell fears about claims Halong was a scam operation.
To help others make informed an informed decision about Halong, I shared the results of my due diligence research on Halong and its affiliate "MyRig, Inc." Because others seemed to value my research (into which I put considerable effort), I continued to post in this thread to help shed light about Halong and MyRig and to help introduce myself to this community, which I have come to appreciate. We have seen progress. In response to my posts and those of others, this community's collective examination helped to reveal the Japanese incorporation number of "MyRig" (at least its name, apparently translated into Japanese) for the first time in this forum. In addition, I revealed that MyRig, Inc. is not incorporated in Colorado even though it holds itself out as authorized to do business in that state. My research also supported the inescapable fact that Halong is an anonymous operation that is attempting to operate with impunity.
I shared in this thread numerous times my skepticism of Halong Mining and my concern that I would not receive the DragonMint units I purchased. I explained I felt this way because Halong miserably failed my due diligence tests. I posted that I thought my buying from Halong was impulsive and a mistake on my part. I vowed I'd never purchase from Halong again. (I can prove I am a Halong customer through photos and video if I ever receive my April Batch 2 shipment.)
I do not care about the success or failure of any mining hardware manufacturer. I have no financial interest in any of these companies, including Halong and Bitmain, except to the extent I may need warranty work from one of them some day on my miners. However, if a company operates ethically in the marketplace, delivers good value, gives good support, and treats its customers with respect, I hope it succeeds. Halong has not operated this way for the many reasons I have discussed at length previously.
I've tried to be respectful (yet fair and firm) to everyone and every business in this thread, including you, Halong Mining, Bitmain, and others. I've been as objective as I can possibly be. I've fact checked extensively the subject matter about which I've posted. I've tried to support every statement I make with sound reasoning or hard evidence (for example, screenshots of the FCC database when I could not verify Halong's FCC certification claim, or Secretary of State records when I could not verify its affiliate MyRig, Inc.'s incorporation). When someone posted that they doubted one could sue Bitmain, I wrote extensively explaining in detail exactly how you could sue Bitmain anywhere in the world.
You are off base suggesting that I have questionable ethics. I've behaved above board. I did not suddenly discover Unicornflex's post, I was speaking with him the day he posted it back in February. I disclosed this fact in an earlier post. I have not posted yet on any other threads in this forum, because I am a new here and want to wait to make sure I post only when I have value to add. I understood that was the expected behavior of users of this forum. Do you realize that? I would encourage you to do the same instead instead of acting in an unacceptable way toward new users. Judge newbies by the content of their message, and not by the creation date of their account and the number of threads in which they post. This community should welcome newbies to make constructive, objective contributions -- and not verbally assault them as you have done.
I regret if some find this message too personal or "off topic", but being publicly accused of acting unethically when I have taken the utmost care to act honorably, as Sandal_Hat has done, is way beyond the pale and required my public response. Thank you.
I didnt read most of your post. It is too long and nutty. Look,
Common sense - there are alot of new accounts or accounts that post in this thread only, as can be seen.
There are alot of unsubstantiated claims from these particular accounts.
I dont dislike u but all your posts are only in this thread and u join recently...thus suspicious
Somehow, u can notice unicornflex's ONE single post (that claims huge sales) in a 90 page thread and u blindly believe it.
That post occurred BEFORE u even posted in this thread. U read many pages backwards??
Unicornflex then appears straight away, after being missing for super long.... juz too weird here.
Many pages back, I predicted that dimaze will give very good results on any test he does and I was right. He even claim it is on spec at one point. Lazy to write every reason but this fellow only post in this thread for whole of 2018.
So, my suspicion is that u r all juz the same person or group.
Past pages had numerous newbie accounts claiming they have ordered, they think it is good, etc etc. It looks like a marketing campaign of new accounts.
There is no explanation on how halong first utube demo video in Nov 2017 shows 1460watts @16.2 TH as it is...as it shows worse numbers now.
Thus, it is fair to point out this shadyness.
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Anyways, there are real 3rd party doing the test. So , lets juz wait for the new firmware and see the numbers. And see how good or bad this device is. This mystery has been going on for months now. Finally the conclusion
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