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April 12, 2018, 08:10:20 PM
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At least Canaan seems to have done tuning right. Per their info, each chip constantly is being tuned and tweaked for best performance so as conditions change so do the chips speed.
It is probably only partly true. They may tune the clock frequency synthesizer per each chip, but I think that the hashing core voltage is getting tuned in groups/strings/whatever is the actual limitation of their voltage regulators.
Precisely correct. The user can set a global Vcore and from there the tuning mechanism changes chip freq to keep what in analog terms would be called the best S/N ratio. Somewhere in Canaan's docs they describe what is checked, along with temps as I recall it is a mix of tracking HW errors and/or invalids then adjusting freq to keep them within their boundary values.

No matter what, it beats the hell out of doing a 1-time tuning run after bootup as Halong does.

if you check my 4 dragon mint t1 miners at the solar array 1 board dropped

http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

worker .3

Most likely clock was too high.

When the 5th one comes today I will bring it to the array and reboot that  other one.

so 4 should do 64th

my 4 are doing


"hashrate1m": "56.2T",
 "hashrate5m": "56.3T",
 "hashrate1hr": "55.9T",

1 board is off  so that is 5.33th  so 55.9 + 5.33 = 61.23  of 64 = 95.67%  of spec hash  assuming a reboot fixes the no hash board.

they should do 4 x 1480 = 5920 watts

so 64th = 61.23 th

5920 watts = 6480

btw this over watts is a pain for me as I have 30 amp pdu's  and 4 of these are doing 28 amps which means  3 per pdu not 4

I have a fix  3 T1's and 1 L3+  pull 23 to 24 amps.

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Precisely correct. The user can set a global Vcore and from there the tuning mechanism changes chip freq to keep what in analog terms would be called the best S/N ratio. Somewhere in Canaan's docs they describe what is checked, along with temps as I recall it is a mix of tracking HW errors and/or invalids then adjusting freq to keep them within their boundary values.

No matter what, it beats the hell out of doing a 1-time tuning run after bootup as Halong does.
I'm kinda afraid that -ck may be politically or contractually restrained from answering my question. The only answer that he could make would be "feature parity with competition".

I used to work in the medical business and that phrase would actually mean "misfeature parity with influential political lobby". Imagine an electronic sphygmomanometer which instead giving you a numeric answer like "120/80" would be restricted to giving only a binary answer: "You are OK" and "Go see a doctor". ( This isn't a real example, I just wanted to write something that nearly anyone can relate to, without going into explaining medical procedures. ) In the medical field doctors frequently won't give you straight answers, to get to the truth you'll have to interrogate their office staff, both the medical and administrative side.

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April 12, 2018, 10:01:43 PM
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Tuning kicks in when the temperature is in the optimal range.

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I posted a review of the unit I received here, with tons of hardware and GUI pictures Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311505

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Tuning kicks in when the temperature is in the optimal range.

what is the optimal range number ?


Miner Info

#   Hash Rate   Status---Accepted/Rejected------   HW---   Temperature
1   5.25 TH/s   Alive-------1027/0------------   617---   71 ℃
2   5.27 TH/s   Alive-------1107/0------------   864---   68 ℃
3   5.15 TH/s   Alive-------1028/0------------   1215--   69 ℃

these are the 3 temps for each board.

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LOL. I just realized u are also someone who has all his posts in only the Halong thread only haha. It is ONLY such accounts people making huge marketing claims of great sales omg. The amount of such accounts here is huge. And there is No basis for such claims. It does NOT show in hashrates on pools. And this is such a bad time to sell miners that even the market leader is slashing prices drastically to sell miners haha.

Unicornflex is an account with just 2 posts, both in Halong thread and praising them. [Emphasis added.]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=197256;sa=showPosts

It is amazing that u can even notice his ONE post in a 90+ page thread claiming 100 million sales especially since his post was made on 7th Feb and your first post in Halong thread is 21st Feb.
And now he appears after u speak of him HAHA. His 2nd only post.

I notice it is just all your newbie or Halong only accounts talking to yourselves here for marketing purposes. This is not seen anywhere else.
It is also amazing that u supposedly track supposedly their order numbers. Something easily faked and no one tracks this. These people had at most 600 in their telegram account then and most were just not believing their existence. Any ICO had more people lol. No evidence but tons of claims haha


Not trying to hide that my account isn't active on other threads. I spent probably more than I should have on buying Halong miners. Hate on me all you want. I'm just trying to dig into whether that money is gone or if I'll have equipment to show for it.

No one hates u. U dont matter to me. I juz cant stand unethical conduct. It is just too obvious that the one with overly positive marketing and ridiculous non-substantiated claims are of some obvious types of accounts. Anyways, I dont think it matters even if this post gets deleted also. People arent so stupid to believe. That is why the hashrate in those pools and difficulty of btc isnt impacted by this launch. Good luck to u.

If u people have ethics, u would do proper things - reveal yourselves and not use sneaky accounts to make huge claims of greatness,etc.

@Sandal_Hat: I actually can't believe I have to defend myself here for doing the exact opposite of what you claim. I must insist that you do a basic fact check before you accuse anyone of "unethical conduct." You could not be any more mistaken about me and Unicornflex. Contrary to your claim, I have never praised Halong Mining for its greatness or otherwise tried to elevate the company for "marketing purposes." Unicornflex never did so either. I am not shilling for Halong or anyone else. I have no secret PR agenda or ulterior motives. Unicornflex has done the exact opposite of what you have claimed. The link you posted in which you allege he is "praising" Halong, he actually does the opposite and excoriates Halong. He made the case on why he has doubts about Halong, and in a constructive manner urged Halong to set the record straight, which Halong declined to do. I have written in detail providing reasoned support for the validity of his concerns. I did so because I shared his concerns. In doing so, I have painstakingly tried to be as objective as possible and provide as much supporting evidence as possible.

The "massive" sales numbers of the DragonMint that he and I shared with this community were intended to show not how "great" Halong Mining is, but rather to demonstrate the potential magnitude of the epic scam that he and I both suspected that Halong Mining could be. I did not share this information for personal gain, but rather to try to help people possibly avoid getting scammed. I have no other motivation. At the time I first started posting in February, I was all but convinced Halong was a scam. I have since written and still believe that we should all consider Halong Mining an illegitimate operation until and unless it reveals its incorporation number and proof that its claimed FCC certification for the DragonMint actually exists. After reputable individuals vouched for the existence of the DragonMint, such as -ck, then and only then, I posted that I felt I would receive the DragonMints for which I had paid, but I still maintained that Halong was not behaving in the way legitimate companies operate, and that all potential buyers should beware.

I know Unicornflex only because I bought some Antminer S9 units from him last year, a transaction that I also shared using the "Trust" feature of this community. I have no interest in promoting or questioning any hardware mining company. I am an actual customer of Halong Mining who demands transparency from them. Support my efforts in that endeavor for our mutual benefit, or don't. Your choice. In my case, I regretted buying from Halong once I realized I could not verify Halong's incorporation. I still regret my purchase. I became even more worried once I learned Halong was unwilling to do anything to help quell fears about claims Halong was a scam operation.

To help others make informed an informed decision about Halong, I shared the results of my due diligence research on Halong and its affiliate "MyRig, Inc." Because others seemed to value my research (into which I put considerable effort), I continued to post in this thread to help shed light about Halong and MyRig and to help introduce myself to this community, which I have come to appreciate. We have seen progress. In response to my posts and those of others, this community's collective examination helped to reveal the Japanese incorporation number of "MyRig" (at least its name, apparently translated into Japanese) for the first time in this forum. In addition, I revealed that MyRig, Inc. is not incorporated in Colorado even though it holds itself out as authorized to do business in that state. My research also supported the inescapable fact that Halong is an anonymous operation that is attempting to operate with impunity.

I shared in this thread numerous times my skepticism of Halong Mining and my concern that I would not receive the DragonMint units I purchased. I explained I felt this way because Halong miserably failed my due diligence tests. I posted that I thought my buying from Halong was impulsive and a mistake on my part. I vowed I'd never purchase from Halong again. (I can prove I am a Halong customer through photos and video if I ever receive my April Batch 2 shipment.)

I do not care about the success or failure of any mining hardware manufacturer. I have no financial interest in any of these companies, including Halong and Bitmain, except to the extent I may need warranty work from one of them some day on my miners. However, if a company operates ethically in the marketplace, delivers good value, gives good support, and treats its customers with respect, I hope it succeeds. Halong has not operated this way for the many reasons I have discussed at length previously.

I've tried to be respectful (yet fair and firm) to everyone and every business in this thread, including you, Halong Mining, Bitmain, and others. I've been as objective as I can possibly be. I've fact checked extensively the subject matter about which I've posted.  I've tried to support every statement I make with sound reasoning or hard evidence (for example, screenshots of the FCC database when I could not verify Halong's FCC certification claim, or Secretary of State records when I could not verify its affiliate MyRig, Inc.'s incorporation).  When someone posted that they doubted one could sue Bitmain, I wrote extensively explaining in detail exactly how you could sue Bitmain anywhere in the world.

You are off base suggesting that I have questionable ethics. I've behaved above board. I did not suddenly discover Unicornflex's post, I was speaking with him the day he posted it back in February. I disclosed this fact in an earlier post. I have not posted yet on any other threads in this forum, because I am a new here and want to wait to make sure I post only when I have value to add. I understood that was the expected behavior of users of this forum. Do you realize that? I would encourage you to do the same instead instead of acting in an unacceptable way toward new users. Judge newbies by the content of their message, and not by the creation date of their account and the number of threads in which they post. This community should welcome newbies to make constructive, objective contributions -- and not verbally assault them as you have done.

I regret if some find this message too personal or "off topic", but being publicly accused of acting unethically when I have taken the utmost care to act honorably, as Sandal_Hat has done, is way beyond the pale and required my public response. Thank you.
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@Sandal_Hat: I actually can't believe I have to defend myself here for doing the exact opposite of what you claim. I must insist that you do a basic fact check before you accuse anyone of "unethical conduct." You could not be any more mistaken about me and Unicornflex. Contrary to your claim, I have never praised Halong Mining for its greatness or otherwise tried to elevate the company for "marketing purposes." Unicornflex never did so either. I am not shilling for Halong or anyone else. I have no secret PR agenda or ulterior motives. Unicornflex has done the exact opposite of what you have claimed. The link you posted in which you allege he is "praising" Halong, he actually does the opposite and excoriates Halong. He made the case on why he has doubts about Halong, and in a constructive manner urged Halong to set the record straight, which Halong declined to do. I have written in detail providing reasoned support for the validity of his concerns. I did so because I shared his concerns. In doing so, I have painstakingly tried to be as objective as possible and provide as much supporting evidence as possible.

The "massive" sales numbers of the DragonMint that he and I shared with this community were intended to show not how "great" Halong Mining is, but rather to demonstrate the potential magnitude of the epic scam that he and I both suspected that Halong Mining could be. I did not share this information for personal gain, but rather to try to help people possibly avoid getting scammed. I have no other motivation. At the time I first started posting in February, I was all but convinced Halong was a scam. I have since written and still believe that we should all consider Halong Mining an illegitimate operation until and unless it reveals its incorporation number and proof that its claimed FCC certification for the DragonMint actually exists. After reputable individuals vouched for the existence of the DragonMint, such as -ck, then and only then, I posted that I felt I would receive the DragonMints for which I had paid, but I still maintained that Halong was not behaving in the way legitimate companies operate, and that all potential buyers should beware.

I know Unicornflex only because I bought some Antminer S9 units from him last year, a transaction that I also shared using the "Trust" feature of this community. I have no interest in promoting or questioning any hardware mining company. I am an actual customer of Halong Mining who demands transparency from them. Support my efforts in that endeavor for our mutual benefit, or don't. Your choice. In my case, I regretted buying from Halong once I realized I could not verify Halong's incorporation. I still regret my purchase. I became even more worried once I learned Halong was unwilling to do anything to help quell fears about claims Halong was a scam operation.

To help others make informed an informed decision about Halong, I shared the results of my due diligence research on Halong and its affiliate "MyRig, Inc." Because others seemed to value my research (into which I put considerable effort), I continued to post in this thread to help shed light about Halong and MyRig and to help introduce myself to this community, which I have come to appreciate. We have seen progress. In response to my posts and those of others, this community's collective examination helped to reveal the Japanese incorporation number of "MyRig" (at least its name, apparently translated into Japanese) for the first time in this forum. In addition, I revealed that MyRig, Inc. is not incorporated in Colorado even though it holds itself out as authorized to do business in that state. My research also supported the inescapable fact that Halong is an anonymous operation that is attempting to operate with impunity.

I shared in this thread numerous times my skepticism of Halong Mining and my concern that I would not receive the DragonMint units I purchased. I explained I felt this way because Halong miserably failed my due diligence tests. I posted that I thought my buying from Halong was impulsive and a mistake on my part. I vowed I'd never purchase from Halong again. (I can prove I am a Halong customer through photos and video if I ever receive my April Batch 2 shipment.)

I do not care about the success or failure of any mining hardware manufacturer. I have no financial interest in any of these companies, including Halong and Bitmain. However, if a company operates ethically in the marketplace, delivers good value, gives good support, and treats its customers with respect, I hope it succeeds. Halong has not operated this way for the many reasons I have discussed at length previously.

I've tried to be respectful (yet fair and firm) to everyone and every business in this thread, including you, Halong Mining, Bitmain, and others. I've been as objective as I can possibly be. I've fact checked extensively the subject matter about which I've posted.  I've tried to support every statement I make with sound reasoning or hard evidence (for example, screenshots of the FCC database when I could not verify Halong's FCC certification claim, or Secretary of State records when I could not verify its affiliate MyRig, Inc.'s incorporation).  When someone posted that they doubted one could sue Bitmain, I wrote extensively explaining in detail exactly how you could sue Bitmain anywhere in the world.

You are off base suggesting that I have questionable ethics. I've behaved above board. I did not suddenly discover Unicornflex's post, I was speaking with him the day he posted it back in February. I disclosed this fact in an earlier post. I have not posted yet on any other threads in this forum, because I am a new here and want to wait to make sure I post only when I have value to add. I understood that was the expected behavior of users of this forum. Do you realize that? I would encourage you to do the same instead instead of acting in an unacceptable way toward new users. Judge newbies by the content of their message, and not by the creation date of their account and the number of threads in which they post. This community should welcome newbies to make constructive, objective contributions -- and not verbally assault them as you have done.

I regret if some find this message too personal or "off topic", but being publicly accused of acting unethically when I have taken the utmost care to act honorably, as Sandal_Hat has done, is way beyond the pale and required my public response. Thank you.

Hey Dr.Mann - thanks for looking out for the community.

But your posts are really...long winded and annoying.  Like all of them for the past 4 weeks.

It's not about anything coming off as off topic or personal - you just write in an irritating corporate tone.  Something a lot of us joined this community to avoid.

You kind of sound like Karen, from HR.  Maybe just give it a break?

https://whohaha.com/karen-from-hr/



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April 13, 2018, 12:09:52 AM
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Firmware update:

https://download.halongmining.com/files/t1/t1_20180409_010732.swu

Improvements:

Miner Status page update: Independent ASIC Chain Graphs, visual changes
Performance Tab: Auto-Tune capability
Firmware Tab: Automatically check and apply updates.

I believe the unit automatically calibrates itself after applying this update, so hash rate should peak 30-60+ minutes into that function.



I downloaded the  file and did one unit. firmware upgrade
https://i.imgur.com/dbPuN0M.png
https://i.imgur.com/5uSEDSq.png
https://i.imgur.com/bL9ES0t.png
https://i.imgur.com/kmQFdl6.png
https://i.imgur.com/6SBTNuu.png

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Looks good! I like the visual specific chain tracking. I'd like some specific tuning capability soon!

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Hey Dr.Mann - thanks for looking out for the community.

But your posts are really...long winded and annoying.  Like all of them for the past 4 weeks.

It's not about anything coming off as off topic or personal - you just write in an irritating corporate tone.  Something a lot of us joined this community to avoid.

You kind of sound like Karen, from HR.  Maybe just give it a break?

https://whohaha.com/karen-from-hr/

Lol. This gave me a chuckle.

I'd still have a drink with the Dr even though we don't see eye to eye. I look forward to him uncovering Halong's offshore legal service address in Belize Tongue

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Looks good! I like the visual specific chain tracking. I'd like some specific tuning capability soon!

It is a good graphic easy to see if things are working close to correct.

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@Sandal_Hat: I actually can't believe I have to defend myself here for doing the exact opposite of what you claim. I must insist that you do a basic fact check before you accuse anyone of "unethical conduct." You could not be any more mistaken about me and Unicornflex. Contrary to your claim, I have never praised Halong Mining for its greatness or otherwise tried to elevate the company for "marketing purposes." Unicornflex never did so either. I am not shilling for Halong or anyone else. I have no secret PR agenda or ulterior motives. Unicornflex has done the exact opposite of what you have claimed. The link you posted in which you allege he is "praising" Halong, he actually does the opposite and excoriates Halong. He made the case on why he has doubts about Halong, and in a constructive manner urged Halong to set the record straight, which Halong declined to do. I have written in detail providing reasoned support for the validity of his concerns. I did so because I shared his concerns. In doing so, I have painstakingly tried to be as objective as possible and provide as much supporting evidence as possible.

The "massive" sales numbers of the DragonMint that he and I shared with this community were intended to show not how "great" Halong Mining is, but rather to demonstrate the potential magnitude of the epic scam that he and I both suspected that Halong Mining could be. I did not share this information for personal gain, but rather to try to help people possibly avoid getting scammed. I have no other motivation. At the time I first started posting in February, I was all but convinced Halong was a scam. I have since written and still believe that we should all consider Halong Mining an illegitimate operation until and unless it reveals its incorporation number and proof that its claimed FCC certification for the DragonMint actually exists. After reputable individuals vouched for the existence of the DragonMint, such as -ck, then and only then, I posted that I felt I would receive the DragonMints for which I had paid, but I still maintained that Halong was not behaving in the way legitimate companies operate, and that all potential buyers should beware.

I know Unicornflex only because I bought some Antminer S9 units from him last year, a transaction that I also shared using the "Trust" feature of this community. I have no interest in promoting or questioning any hardware mining company. I am an actual customer of Halong Mining who demands transparency from them. Support my efforts in that endeavor for our mutual benefit, or don't. Your choice. In my case, I regretted buying from Halong once I realized I could not verify Halong's incorporation. I still regret my purchase. I became even more worried once I learned Halong was unwilling to do anything to help quell fears about claims Halong was a scam operation.

To help others make informed an informed decision about Halong, I shared the results of my due diligence research on Halong and its affiliate "MyRig, Inc." Because others seemed to value my research (into which I put considerable effort), I continued to post in this thread to help shed light about Halong and MyRig and to help introduce myself to this community, which I have come to appreciate. We have seen progress. In response to my posts and those of others, this community's collective examination helped to reveal the Japanese incorporation number of "MyRig" (at least its name, apparently translated into Japanese) for the first time in this forum. In addition, I revealed that MyRig, Inc. is not incorporated in Colorado even though it holds itself out as authorized to do business in that state. My research also supported the inescapable fact that Halong is an anonymous operation that is attempting to operate with impunity.

I shared in this thread numerous times my skepticism of Halong Mining and my concern that I would not receive the DragonMint units I purchased. I explained I felt this way because Halong miserably failed my due diligence tests. I posted that I thought my buying from Halong was impulsive and a mistake on my part. I vowed I'd never purchase from Halong again. (I can prove I am a Halong customer through photos and video if I ever receive my April Batch 2 shipment.)

I do not care about the success or failure of any mining hardware manufacturer. I have no financial interest in any of these companies, including Halong and Bitmain, except to the extent I may need warranty work from one of them some day on my miners. However, if a company operates ethically in the marketplace, delivers good value, gives good support, and treats its customers with respect, I hope it succeeds. Halong has not operated this way for the many reasons I have discussed at length previously.

I've tried to be respectful (yet fair and firm) to everyone and every business in this thread, including you, Halong Mining, Bitmain, and others. I've been as objective as I can possibly be. I've fact checked extensively the subject matter about which I've posted.  I've tried to support every statement I make with sound reasoning or hard evidence (for example, screenshots of the FCC database when I could not verify Halong's FCC certification claim, or Secretary of State records when I could not verify its affiliate MyRig, Inc.'s incorporation).  When someone posted that they doubted one could sue Bitmain, I wrote extensively explaining in detail exactly how you could sue Bitmain anywhere in the world.

You are off base suggesting that I have questionable ethics. I've behaved above board. I did not suddenly discover Unicornflex's post, I was speaking with him the day he posted it back in February. I disclosed this fact in an earlier post. I have not posted yet on any other threads in this forum, because I am a new here and want to wait to make sure I post only when I have value to add. I understood that was the expected behavior of users of this forum. Do you realize that? I would encourage you to do the same instead instead of acting in an unacceptable way toward new users. Judge newbies by the content of their message, and not by the creation date of their account and the number of threads in which they post. This community should welcome newbies to make constructive, objective contributions -- and not verbally assault them as you have done.

I regret if some find this message too personal or "off topic", but being publicly accused of acting unethically when I have taken the utmost care to act honorably, as Sandal_Hat has done, is way beyond the pale and required my public response. Thank you.

I didnt read most of your post. It is too long and nutty.  Look,

Common sense - there are alot of new accounts or accounts that post in this thread only, as can be seen.
There are alot of unsubstantiated claims from these particular accounts.

I dont dislike u but all your posts are only in this thread and u join recently...thus suspicious
Somehow, u can notice unicornflex's ONE single post (that claims huge sales) in a 90 page thread and u blindly believe it.
That post occurred BEFORE u even posted in this thread. U read many pages backwards??
Unicornflex then appears straight away, after being missing for super long.... juz too weird here.
Many pages back, I predicted that dimaze will give very good results on any test he does and I was right. He even claim it is on spec at one point. Lazy to write every reason but this fellow only post in this thread for whole of 2018.

So, my suspicion is that u r all juz the same person or group.
Past pages had numerous newbie accounts claiming they have ordered, they think it is good, etc etc. It looks like a marketing campaign of new accounts.

There is no explanation on how halong first utube demo video in Nov 2017 shows 1460watts @16.2 TH as it is...as it shows worse numbers now.

Thus, it is fair to point out this shadyness.

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Anyways, there are real 3rd party doing the test. So , lets juz wait for the new firmware and see the numbers. And see how good or bad this device is. This mystery has been going on for months now. Finally the conclusion Smiley



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Selling 100 dollar coupons (8units expire 11th June, 14 units expire 1st july) and 125 dollar coupon (2 unit exp 30th June). Selling at 20% of value
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Verdict is in. Samsung.  Explains the yeild issue and the  variance in power efficiency.



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April 13, 2018, 11:37:44 AM
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Verdict is in. Samsung.  Explains the yeild issue and the  variance in power efficiency.

yeah  i have 5 + 1 six

they  all do 15.2 to 15.6

if you really look at the pcb they are similar to the s-9 but they are not s-9's

I have firmware upgrade on two of them.   -ck says there will be more firmware upgrades

http://ckpool.org/#/miners

Address   H/s 1h   H/s 1d   H/s 1w   
1   1EcH7pHYTHLo3cbdXfkf6e6Zh5JzCPGumc_______1.82PH/s   1.82PH/s   2.4PH/s   
2   36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V______2.55PH/s   1.9PH/s   1.16PH/s   
3   3Kfi5ZKnm8BJmpaDGdbjawPXEwEJ7FAWkD_____300TH/s   301TH/s   158TH/s   
4   1PiwEHgiTP4FgvNSgaPAp4ckgBR8Jd9JWw______133TH/s   91.7TH/s   20.7TH/s   
5   3CPTksz4MWWFkbx9iqeHobuqXns5Zg8cQB_____123TH/s   93.8TH/s   22.2TH/s   
6   3Dwc9kL3ghraPzMefbgNmPePDgreEJex7c______   77.9TH/s   76.1TH/s   58.1TH/s   
7   3HWbABbZj1pNWGE8njHNQqDfGC4c5ZMDnA____82TH/s   93.8TH/s   106TH/s   
8   1GeniexG7MnLr9WH48jG1cPLqgGbqUsaFM______70.4TH/s   19.5TH/s   27.8TH/s      
9   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr_______55.4TH/s   192TH/s   40.4TH/s   
10   35grB9KLe5e8LXcyd6eQmTb8RVRdsE2ipH_______45.2TH/s   48TH/s   53.2TH/s   

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April 13, 2018, 12:22:21 PM
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Until the firmware is improved,
I feel that it is kind of false advertising to say that the T1 is the most power efficient machine available.

At the moment there are three different machines that can achieve about the same power efficiency level (~0.10 J per GH/s)
--> Antminer S9, AvalonMiner 841 and DragonMint T1.

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April 13, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
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Until the firmware is improved,
I feel that it is kind of false advertising to say that the T1 is the most power efficient machine available.

At the moment there are three different machines that can achieve about the same power efficiency level (~0.10 J per GH/s)
--> Antminer S9, AvalonMiner 841 and DragonMint T1.

If you had 3 production cars from 3 manufactures that could do 0-100 kmh in 1.2 seconds aren't they all the fastest production car available?

"Slimey" word fuckery is marketing.  Look at the manufactures that claim there car is "the most fuel efficient" and then have a long list after the *

BTW Bitmain also makes the same claim on their site.

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April 13, 2018, 03:32:52 PM
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Until the firmware is improved,
I feel that it is kind of false advertising to say that the T1 is the most power efficient machine available.

At the moment there are three different machines that can achieve about the same power efficiency level (~0.10 J per GH/s)
--> Antminer S9, AvalonMiner 841 and DragonMint T1.

If you had 3 production cars from 3 manufactures that could do 0-100 kmh in 1.2 seconds aren't they all the fastest production car available?

"Slimey" word fuckery is marketing.  Look at the manufactures that claim there car is "the most fuel efficient" and then have a long list after the *

BTW Bitmain also makes the same claim on their site.

The T1 can only mine on 2 pools right now and needs special stratum side options to work at full speed so it's like a production car that needs special fuel that isn't widely available to achieve that 0-100 kmh in 1.2 seconds 

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April 13, 2018, 04:20:32 PM
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Until the firmware is improved,
I feel that it is kind of false advertising to say that the T1 is the most power efficient machine available.

At the moment there are three different machines that can achieve about the same power efficiency level (~0.10 J per GH/s)
--> Antminer S9, AvalonMiner 841 and DragonMint T1.

If you had 3 production cars from 3 manufactures that could do 0-100 kmh in 1.2 seconds aren't they all the fastest production car available?

"Slimey" word fuckery is marketing.  Look at the manufactures that claim there car is "the most fuel efficient" and then have a long list after the *

BTW Bitmain also makes the same claim on their site.

they did and it was proven to be true as well. the s9 is over a year old and others are just now touching the same sort of power consumption they hit goin on 2 years ago. I think that is somethin worth braggin about. this only covers miners that we know of and not ones running in private mines like bitfury...only ones released to the public.

now i do have 1 question for all of u t1 buyers....y did u decide to buy these when they only work for 2 pools?? doesnt that limit your choices pool wise?? also what if u want to mine ppc or something?? u guys paid more money for under performing specs that use more power and have less options mining wise all to tell bitmain "fuck u"?? im all for other options to keep prices of machines down. I totally get that and im 100% for that but in the end no one buys these with the expectation to not break even. no one gives money away (if ne of u do lmk and i will help free u from that burden) so im genuinely askin y do people want these machines and why are they happy with getting less than promised??

also doesnt asicboost provide 20% increases in earnings give or take?? does that mean the actual speed of the machine is 12th/s and not the advertised 16th/s (seems about 15.5th/s is a safe estimate)?? I guess it doesnt matter since they can only be used with bitcoin and on the 2 pools that allow asicboost. I personally would like to have the option of mining ppc bch or btc even if im going to mine just 1...having choices is nice.

lastly no having 3 cars hit 100 in 1.2 secs doesnt allow either of them to make that claim. using the word "fastest" doesnt imply its the same as others or leave it up to the reader to decide. the term "fastest" by itself is a direct statement saying it beats every other car out there no ifs ands or buts. now if they used "one of the fastest" that is acceptable since they arent misleading consumers but "fastest by itself would be a lie and leaves them open to hate from the car community and also legal issues in some areas.
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April 13, 2018, 05:23:47 PM
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now i do have 1 question for all of u t1 buyers....y did u decide to buy these when they only work for 2 pools?? doesnt that limit your choices pool wise??



I didn't buy one of these... but wanted to chime in. The early buyers did not KNOW about the AsicBoost issue, so they bought not even knowing there would be use limitations going forward.
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now i do have 1 question for all of u t1 buyers....y did u decide to buy these when they only work for 2 pools?? doesnt that limit your choices pool wise??



I didn't buy one of these... but wanted to chime in. The early buyers did not KNOW about the AsicBoost issue, so they bought not even knowing there would be use limitations going forward.


This is true  no one new about asicboost until  Feb  of this year.

I don't have any issues  mining at ck pool
Slush is  a meh for me.

but  the gear does not do  16th or 1480 watts.

every one of the six I have does over  1600 watts on a myrig psu.  that is an issue.

not a single one of the six I have does over 15.8th long term.    that is an issue.

To anyone that purchased looking to solo mine BCH  they would be hurt.
To anyone that purchased looking to solo mine BTC  they would be hurt.



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