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March 30, 2018, 05:33:32 PM
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Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

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March 30, 2018, 05:39:33 PM
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Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

I am not familiar as I have never open the S9 before.
U think they will get a lawsuit from bitmain?

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March 30, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
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Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

thanks, and innosilicon-wise, though the plot was halong is inno, not bitmain
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March 30, 2018, 05:49:33 PM
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You asked for my comments and I gave them.  Cheesy

I don't know what kind of patens Bitmain has,
it is hard to say if there will be any lawsuits.

I do know that Bitmain has had or is currently having a lawsuit
with WhatsMiner company.

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March 30, 2018, 06:26:18 PM
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I glanced over the hashboard photo and immediately looked at an S9 board. Conceptually similar, even the same number of chips, but not the same. At least with the one I have as a reference.

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March 30, 2018, 06:27:03 PM
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Currently my experience is similar to other manufacturers in the past, in that their ability to get the paperwork done and tracking numbers entered into their system is lagging behind the shipments. Heck even bitmain still does it now and then.

Now I may be being very generous to them, but that's the feedback I am getting from their support team, and given ck's involvement I'm more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that the hardware exists.

Obviously hardware existing is no guarantee of it arriving in a timely manner.

Unfortunately mine are not arriving into my hot little hands but going to a datacentre, I'll ask them for some unboxing and setup photos/videos if they have a chance.

I've had the tracking information emailed to me. I know most of you know I've been mining a long time, so as soon as they hit the ground I'll get some photos of the unboxing made and the setup even if I have to pay support costs to do it Smiley

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March 30, 2018, 08:03:32 PM
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Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

thanks, and innosilicon-wise, though the plot was halong is inno, not bitmain

Hmmm speculative theory.

Halong is Innosilicon?

Reasons:
-Control board is similar
-All halongs 4 algorithm asic are different from all innosilicon asic algo. Halong could release more smaller algo asics like SIA and Decred but no litecoin or dash? (not that i want them to do so and compete more)
-The T1 has similar hashboard design to S9. So, if a lawsuit occurs, it goes to halong and not innosilicon. Thus, safer to use another entity. Bitmain is aggressive and is sue-ing whatsminer after all.
-They were able to release new Algo miners for sale quickly, as if the miners were developed and in use before hand. They release those miners around the same time bitmain did.


Hmmmm

Just my 2 cents speculation

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March 30, 2018, 10:07:03 PM
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Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools
That's pointless. As I pointed out they do NOT run without AB.

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March 30, 2018, 10:59:45 PM
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okay so it has parts from an s-9 and parts from Innosilicon

so like Yoshi told me many parts are similar from various miners.

My HP omen gpu miner has  2 1080ti's and an intel 8700 cpu
Does that make it a Dell Alien gpu miner because the dell has 2 1080tis and an intel 8700 cpu?

So I do not know what the bother is.

Now for them to do well  it needs to do 16th at 1300 watts at the wall.

If I ever get my demo I will point it at -ck's pool and try 3 different psu's on it. (not at the same time)

till then I got nothing.

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March 30, 2018, 11:05:13 PM
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Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools
That's pointless. As I pointed out they do NOT run without AB.
Then until all the SHA256D pools support AB - and frankly I hope most won't - that makes it a definite no-sale for me. Oh well.

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March 30, 2018, 11:07:45 PM
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Comparing pc parts with asic hardware is not that simple.

When you design your ASIC hardware, you design the whole set all the way from control board, hash boards, chips to be custom made and compatible with each other.

But it is possible that Halong and Inno has had some partnership deal in which Halong has got an access to Inno designs and have that way been able to implement the Inno control board in the Dragonmint unit.

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March 30, 2018, 11:13:41 PM
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Comparing pc parts with asic hardware is not that simple.

When you design your ASIC hardware, you design the whole set all the way from control board, hash boards, chips to be custom made and compatible with each other.

But it is possible that Halong and Inno has had some partnership deal in which Halong has got an access to Inno designs and have that way been able to implement the Inno control board in the Dragonmint unit.

like asrock has with intel
or asus with intel
or evga with intel

or any mobo that uses intel.


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March 30, 2018, 11:19:16 PM
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Just one thing that confuses me in this, is that why both parties (Halong and Inno) do not want to confirm anything about this OEM or other partnership deal?

Revealing the fact that the control board design is very much the same got me kicked out from the Dragonmint telegram chat room.

What are their reasons on this?

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March 30, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
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What are their reasons on this?
Inno - who knows.
Halong - given their very odd ideas of how publicity works and their hubris, seems perfect for their playbook.
Wonder how they are going to approach the Patent application from Intel filed today for a BTC hardware accelerator? Even though it makes my head hurt reading patent applications, it sure looks and feels like another variant of AB to me...

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March 31, 2018, 12:43:29 AM
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My five units are running at various speeds and power draw: 1489 watts, 1521watts, 1656 watts on 220V single phase and one at 1688 watts 110v using an EVGA 1600 G2. (5th unit I have not checked wattage but pulling 7 amps on 220V). room temperature is 70 degrees

Hashrates showing on Dragonmint miner status page: 15.13TH/s, 15.86TH/s, 15.38TH/s, 15.42TH/s, & 15.40TH/s  (slushpool)

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March 31, 2018, 01:40:38 AM
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My five units are running at various speeds and power draw: 1489 watts, 1521watts, 1656 watts on 220V single phase and one at 1688 watts 110v using an EVGA 1600 G2. (5th unit I have not checked wattage but pulling 7 amps on 220V). room temperature is 70 degrees

Hashrates showing on Dragonmint miner status page: 15.13TH/s, 15.86TH/s, 15.38TH/s, 15.42TH/s, & 15.40TH/s  (slushpool)

Decent I suppose at 1489w and 15.13TH/s, but not really all that impressive. Especially with all the fuss about the asicboast and FlushPool.

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March 31, 2018, 01:44:10 AM
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My five units are running at various speeds and power draw: 1489 watts, 1521watts, 1656 watts on 220V single phase and one at 1688 watts 110v using an EVGA 1600 G2. (5th unit I have not checked wattage but pulling 7 amps on 220V). room temperature is 70 degrees

Hashrates showing on Dragonmint miner status page: 15.13TH/s, 15.86TH/s, 15.38TH/s, 15.42TH/s, & 15.40TH/s  (slushpool)

okay  the 110v evga 1600 g2 is lacking so it is worse at 1688 watts -  I suggest getting something else for that or using a 700 watt on 1 board.


but all of them are higher watts  then I thought they would be.

so what psu's ?

do you have a delta 2400 watt psu on any of them?

or all antminer ap3++

I would love to test my demo when I get it to see if a 2400 watt delta is better

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March 31, 2018, 01:46:22 AM
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My five units are running at various speeds and power draw: 1489 watts, 1521watts, 1656 watts on 220V single phase and one at 1688 watts 110v using an EVGA 1600 G2. (5th unit I have not checked wattage but pulling 7 amps on 220V). room temperature is 70 degrees

Hashrates showing on Dragonmint miner status page: 15.13TH/s, 15.86TH/s, 15.38TH/s, 15.42TH/s, & 15.40TH/s  (slushpool)

okay  the 110v evga 1600 g2 is lacking so it is worse at 1688 watts -  I suggest getting something else for that or using a 700 watt on 1 board.


but all of them are higher watts  then I thought they would be.

so what psu's ?

do you have a delta 2400 watt psu on any of them?

or all antminer ap3++

I would love to test my demo when I get it to see if a 2400 watt delta is better

other four rigs are using MyRig/Halong PSU

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March 31, 2018, 01:47:01 AM
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other four rigs are using MyRig/Halong PSU

yeah  which rates  at 1600 watts.

and while it may not burn up at 90% of its max  it loses efficient factor.  It may only be silver at high power use.

I would be willing to say the delta 2400 watt or the ibm 2980 would do a lot better
 maybe  1400 watts vs your lowest at 1489 watts



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March 31, 2018, 02:08:24 AM
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good thought, do you have the IBM 2980 as well to test with?

If your theory is correct, would be worth swapping these out

If I get some spare time, will try Bitman 1600w psu and check for any improvements in power consumption

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