DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com

[-ck]

CK

Are you working on any further firmware updates/changes?

Not at the moment, no.

[powermickel]

Dragonmint T1 doesn't work on zpool, zergpool ... ? It shows "dead" in settings but my antminer s9 works without problems with same settings on this pools - some software issues..? Pleas help.

[Shazam!!!]

Dragonmint T1 doesn't work on zpool, zergpool ... ? It shows "dead" in settings but my antminer s9 works without problems with same settings on this pools - some software issues..? Pleas help.

These miners will only work on mining pools, that are asicboost compatible. Meaning, they have to run a special coding protocol
for asicboost enabled equipment, like the Dragonmint. As of right now, there are 5 pool options.

ckpool.org
solo.ckpool.org
slushpool.com
bitminter.com
f2pool.com

[powermickel]

These miners will only work on mining pools, that are asicboost compatible. Meaning, they have to run a special coding protocol
for asicboost enabled equipment, like the Dragonmint. As of right now, there are 5 pool options.

ckpool.org
solo.ckpool.org
slushpool.com
bitminter.com
f2pool.com

Thanks Shazam!

But isn't it possible to change the software to make the miner kompatibel with other pools?

[-ck]

But isn't it possible to change the software to make the miner kompatibel with other pools?

No, the pools need to be made compatible with the miner.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

But isn't it possible to change the software to make the miner kompatibel with other pools?

I take it someone bought one without bothering to read one single post here?  Halong's deceptive marketing regarding the T1 only working on pools that support AB has been a large part of this thread for a very long time.

[powermickel]

I take it someone bought one without bothering to read one single post here?  Halong's deceptive marketing regarding the T1 only working on pools that support AB has been a large part of this thread for a very long time.

Sorry, my bad..!

[NotFuzzyWarm]

But isn't it possible to change the software to make the miner kompatibel with other pools?

I take it someone bought one without bothering to read one single post here?  Halong's deceptive marketing regarding the T1 only working on pools that support AB has been a large part of this thread for a very long time.

Sorry, my bad..!

Meh. The real ones at fault are Halong & company. It is not the fault of their customers that Halong took such a disreputable approach to their marketing. Folks should not have to pour through the thousands of posts here to discover that the T1 only works with AB pools but that is exactly the problem that Halong created by not telling anyone about it in their advertising. To Halong it is just Someone Else's Problem.

[Shazam!!!]

Meh. The real ones at fault are Halong & company. It is not the fault of their customers that Halong took such a disreputable approach to their marketing. Folks should not have to pour through the thousands of posts here to discover that the T1 only works with AB pools but that is exactly the problem that Halong created by not telling anyone about it in their advertising. To Halong it is just Someone Else's Problem.

I couldn't agree with this more!!! To add salt to the wound, this "unofficial" thread started in the speculation board. Halongmining
has never even bothered to create a new thread, in support of their own product.

Also, concerning AsicBoost:

This thread began with this link to a video of the Dragonmint:

demonstration video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCsQUyR7_I

In the video the Dragonmint is clearly achieving the advertised rate of 16TH/s. However, months later, it's announced that the
Dragonmint, can only achieve these specifications using asicboost. How did that miner operate at that specification, if Halongmining
had not yet acquired the Patent for AsicBoost, and what the hell pool was supporting it??? According to the official announcement by
Halongmining and Slushpool, Slushpool was the first to support Asicboost, many, many months after that video was made.

So connect the dots on those shenanigans. Halongmining was using AsicBoost BEFORE they had the patent, and Slushpool
may have been using the code to support it. Or, is it all, just a Corporate Coincidence???

[-ck]

I couldn't agree with this more!!! To add salt to the wound, this "unofficial" thread started in the speculation board. Halongmining
has never even bothered to create a new thread, in support of their own product.

Myrig created a support thread. No one used it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3731220.0

[Shazam!!!]

Myrig created a support thread. No one used it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3731220.0

I know. I recommended the idea to them. Unfortunately, this unofficial became THE official.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2443327.msg36938065#msg36938065

[rifleman74]

Myrig created a support thread. No one used it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3731220.0

Well it just says MyRig support....one has to drill down to find out what they're supporting.  Their thread title needs changing.

[philipma1957]

Meh. The real ones at fault are Halong & company. It is not the fault of their customers that Halong took such a disreputable approach to their marketing. Folks should not have to pour through the thousands of posts here to discover that the T1 only works with AB pools but that is exactly the problem that Halong created by not telling anyone about it in their advertising. To Halong it is just Someone Else's Problem.

no bitmain started it all by having hidden asic boost in the s-9

and bitmain continues it by not making btc.com and antpool.com allow asic boost.

Now personally both bitmain and halong/innosilicon have behaved poorly towards us all.

For now us miners are now being attacked by both companies as they look to push more and more and more gear.

[rifleman74]

no bitmain started it all by having hidden asic boost in the s-9

and bitmain continues it by not making btc.com and antpool.com allow asic boost.

Now personally both bitmain and halong/innosilicon have behaved poorly towards us all.

For now us miners are now being attacked by both companies as they look to push more and more and more gear.

Why would Bitmain allow it on their own pools?   They don't care about enabling a competitor's product to work on their pools, and I can't blame them. Now if said competitor's product didn't need special coding by pools to allow it to work "100%", then you'd have something.

[HagssFIN]

I couldn't agree with this more!!! To add salt to the wound, this "unofficial" thread started in the speculation board. Halongmining
has never even bothered to create a new thread, in support of their own product.

Myrig created a support thread. No one used it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3731220.0

It would've been cool if they would have put some more information in that thread. At the moment it is quite a thin thread. A troubleshooting guide for example would be nice.

[powermickel]

So I feel really f%$cked by Halongmining since I ordered the T1 just in the beginning without to know about that the T1 only reach the Hashrate by using AB and that it isn't possible to switch over to an other algorithm. The difficulty is raising up like hell and the T1 will be worthless after a while because you cannot mine Altcoins with it either ... Sad...

[pavesi]

So I feel really f%$cked by Halongmining since I ordered the T1 just in the beginning without to know about that the T1 only reach the Hashrate by using AB and that it isn't possible to switch over to an other algorithm. The difficulty is raising up like hell and the T1 will be worthless after a while because you cannot mine Altcoins with it either ... Sad...

I really don't know how many times I specifically have to say this, but WRONG.. You can mine ANY sha256 based coin as long as the pool operators actually spend the few minutes - hour of their time to add the ab support to their pools.

CK, slush, and others actually DID take the time to do that, hence the reason you are able to mine at the ~5 pools right now..

If you want to bitch/whine/moan about it, address that to your pools that you want to mine on.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

So I feel really f%$cked by Halongmining since I ordered the T1 just in the beginning without to know about that the T1 only reach the Hashrate by using AB and that it isn't possible to switch over to an other algorithm. The difficulty is raising up like hell and the T1 will be worthless after a while because you cannot mine Altcoins with it either ... Sad...

I really don't know how many times I specifically have to say this, but WRONG.. You can mine ANY sha256 based coin as long as the pool operators actually spend the few minutes - hour of their time to add the ab support to their pools.

CK, slush, and others actually DID take the time to do that, hence the reason you are able to mine at the ~5 pools right now..

If you want to bitch/whine/moan about it, address that to your pools that you want to mine on.

About that - You do realize that you are talking about making code changes to what is in essence Financial software right? As in it must be properly implemented and TESTED to make sure it does not cause any problems because folks are relying on it for income. It is not just a matter of toggling a function on and crossing your fingers when the change goes live.

Bye and large, once a pool is setup and running properly the Do Not Touch rule goes into effect. Fiddling is not allowed unless there is a damn good reason to do it. Is supporting 1 specific miner that requires AB to even connect much less run a good reason? As you said, bug the pool operator and get their response.

Ref this from Kanopool thread

Kano any news of supporting dragonminers / ASICboost?

Hopefully get time to debug that crappy code in a few days.
The T1 is hell noisy loud even in quietest mode - minimum 62dB - so I'm a little limited on when I will test with it also.
(whereas the heater I run Canaan A741 is 40db or less in my heating quiet mode)
The web interface sux though, it's missing the two most important numbers DA and DR and the developer helping create a miner that you are locked out of sux also - open source my ass.
Clearly you can pay someone to do anything
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[pavesi]

About that - You do realize that you are talking about making code changes to what is in essence Financial software right? As in it must be properly implemented and TESTED to make sure it does not cause any problems because folks are relying on it for income. It is not just a matter of toggling a function on and crossing your fingers when the change goes live.

Bye and large, once a pool is setup and running properly the Do Not Touch rule goes into effect. Fiddling is not allowed unless there is a damn good reason to do it. Is supporting 1 specific miner that requires AB to even connect much less run a good reason? As you said, bug the pool operator and get their response.

Ref this from Kanopool thread

Kano any news of supporting dragonminers / ASICboost?

Hopefully get time to debug that crappy code in a few days.
The T1 is hell noisy loud even in quietest mode - minimum 62dB - so I'm a little limited on when I will test with it also.
(whereas the heater I run Canaan A741 is 40db or less in my heating quiet mode)
The web interface sux though, it's missing the two most important numbers DA and DR and the developer helping create a miner that you are locked out of sux also - open source my ass.
Clearly you can pay someone to do anything
<snip>

Ya, well clearly Kano has other issues beyond 'getting time to debug that crappy code'..  Funny how ck, slush, bitminter, and f2pool seemed to implement the required changes fairly easily without any sort of anger management issues..

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Said pools had miners to work with. In the case of -ck and Slush, they had access long before anything was publicly said by Halong about the T1 requiring AB. Kano only got remote access to a T1 2-weeks ago when a user finally received his to lend to the cause. Gods forbid that Halong provide even a remote access miner for pool devs to work with and put on TestNet to check how their pool backend reacts before going Live with the changes to support (so far) only the Halong T1 and Inno T2 miners..

Again, in both Halongmining and Inno's book encouraging/helping pools to work with THEIR products is SEP - Somebody Else's Problem. Folks are still throwing buckets of money at them so they could care less about encouraging more pools to support AB.