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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 875472 times)
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November 27, 2013, 07:26:35 PM
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If they are *really* interested in making their customers happy, they should ship the MPP before the official three months is up, since it should be obvious to anyone that people like me will *not* be making back their BTC investment with a mere 400 GH/s. I mean, we're almost a third of the way through it already since they decided to start counting from when the miners *should* have shipped, October 30-ish.

At this rate the MPP boards will ship before the actual miners!

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November 27, 2013, 07:29:03 PM
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If they are *really* interested in making their customers happy, they should ship the MPP before the official three months is up, since it should be obvious to anyone that people like me will *not* be making back their BTC investment with a mere 400 GH/s. I mean, we're almost a third of the way through it already since they decided to start counting from when the miners *should* have shipped, October 30-ish.
MPP should ship by the first day of February, they said that "benefits are calculated" starting from the original shipping date, right?
I'm fairly optimist if they stand to that deadline... The problem will be that we won't have any recourse when they will delay the MPP to April or so.

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November 27, 2013, 07:37:42 PM
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Yeah. January 31st/February 1st. We might not be so bad off if the network hashrate stays calm. Better than taking the offered USD refund, anyway. :-p

The one thing I can see really fucking this up is the fact that they're only sending *chips* as part of the MPP. They consider getting a rig to put them in a completely separate matter. >.<
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November 27, 2013, 07:41:39 PM
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the only thing that would make me a happy hashfast-customer, would be two full sierras in my house in the first half of January 2014, instead of a quasi-obsolete BabyJet with upgrade.

All else would leave me being Mr Grumpy  Angry <- my face since 20-30 October.
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November 27, 2013, 07:43:31 PM
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The one thing I can see really fucking this up is the fact that they're only sending *chips* as part of the MPP. They consider getting a rig to put them in a completely separate matter. >.<
No, they said they would be sending full boards. That aspect is covered. The problem is the shipping date of the MPP, they never said that it would be in February. They only talked about how "benefits are calculated". That's the real problem. They will stole from us as much as they can, and in this case it will be at least that.

If the network difficulty increases at an average of 70-90% per month and they ship on time we could see the majority of our money back.

However, i really don't trust them with anything... They simply won't.

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November 27, 2013, 07:59:41 PM
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the only thing that would make me a happy hashfast-customer, would be two full sierras in my house in the first half of January 2014, instead of a quasi-obsolete BabyJet with upgrade.

All else would leave me being Mr Grumpy  Angry <- my face since 20-30 October.

I have send them questions suggesting that, but have no answers back. That is the best and simplest way of solving all this mess, but I do not think they will do so as they are so smart  Undecided

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November 27, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
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So when do the lawsuits start? Over promised, promised delivery?  Promised MMP? Promised full refund in the payment that was received? They havent shippex within 90 days? They change thier tos? promised updates? now how do you have confidence in a company that cant keep thier promises?

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November 27, 2013, 08:08:36 PM
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The one thing I can see really fucking this up is the fact that they're only sending *chips* as part of the MPP. They consider getting a rig to put them in a completely separate matter. >.<

They aren't providing bare chips but the full hashing modules....

https://hashfast.com/official-update-on-the-miner-protection-program/

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Official Update to the Miner Protection Program™
Posted on October 14, 2013 by John Skrodenis    in Uncategorized
We have received such a  positive response to the added benefit that the MPP will provide full modules for batches 2 & 3, that we have officially decided to extend this benefit to everyone covered by the HashFast Miner Protection Program™ in Batch 1.

This means that full modules will be made available to cover any MPP obligation to Batch 1 Baby Jet customers.  At that time, Hashafast will make empty rigs available for sale at competitive prices.

They could go from zero to hero by sending the MPP with the initial order.

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November 27, 2013, 08:12:32 PM
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The one thing I can see really fucking this up is the fact that they're only sending *chips* as part of the MPP. They consider getting a rig to put them in a completely separate matter. >.<

They aren't providing bare chips but the full hashing modules....

https://hashfast.com/official-update-on-the-miner-protection-program/

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Official Update to the Miner Protection Program™
Posted on October 14, 2013 by John Skrodenis    in Uncategorized
We have received such a  positive response to the added benefit that the MPP will provide full modules for batches 2 & 3, that we have officially decided to extend this benefit to everyone covered by the HashFast Miner Protection Program™ in Batch 1.

This means that full modules will be made available to cover any MPP obligation to Batch 1 Baby Jet customers.  At that time, Hashafast will make empty rigs available for sale at competitive prices.

They could go from zero to hero by sending the MPP with the initial order.
Until the change the ToS and website to say that the MPP is only bare chips, and by bare chips the mean blank silicon. The customer is responsible for all power, cooling, PCBs and getting transistors etched onto the chip.
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November 27, 2013, 08:12:56 PM
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Ah, boards. Definitely got that wrong. But we still have to buy empty rigs to hold the boards, it sounds like.
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November 27, 2013, 08:14:18 PM
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They could go from zero to hero by sending the MPP with the initial order.

+1 on this.

On a completely unrelated note, it'd be pretty cool if there were a tip bot for the forums.
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November 27, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
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On a completely unrelated note, it'd be pretty cool if there were a tip bot for the forums.
Back in the days, i think that there was a 300BTC bounty for such a bot. Than the BTC price exploded and the bounty was retired.

MPP with the first shipment? If it happens in January, yes, why not? Other than that i really don't see that coming...

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November 27, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
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Unlikely that it'll happen, yes. But it would be a great PR move, assuming it didn't come at the cost of more significant delays.
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November 27, 2013, 08:56:18 PM
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I want my Bee Jays. anyone have updates?


 
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November 27, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
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for the moment you probably get better, cheaper and more satisfying BJs at your local hooker around the corner, otherwise there's this

Ok after one day asking John finally told me something:

Substrate manufacturer is late 3 days.  Board bring up should happen Saturday, and shipping to start dec 13

Lets see  Roll Eyes
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for the moment you probably get better, cheaper and more satisfying BJs at your local hooker around the corner, otherwise there's this

Ok after one day asking John finally told me something:

Substrate manufacturer is late 3 days.  Board bring up should happen Saturday, and shipping to start dec 13

Lets see  Roll Eyes

I need to check if my local hooker accepts BTC. "Will satisfy for BTC"


 
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November 27, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
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They could go from zero to hero by sending the MPP with the initial order.

At this points there is nothing HashFast can do to be a hero in B1 customers' eyes other than refund them for every bitcoins they paid and that's never going to happen.

And where do you think all these extra chips (4 times B1) will be coming from?  A rocket run?  If they were to do that they will have to take the B2/B3 chips away from B2/B3 to give to their B1 customers, not only will this further delay B2/B3/B4 customers, but they will piss off all of their customers by driving up the difficulty much higher and fastest than anyone expected overnight.
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November 27, 2013, 11:17:20 PM
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Anyone have seen this ?

http://4x.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/1r8pkf/just_got_an_update_from_hashfast_on_expected_and/

I hope Johns predictions are more accurate this time than the ones that were posted on reddit. I will ask for the pcb photos (remenber that they said like a month ago they were already done) and we will find out soon

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He said that while they expect to ship around Jan 1-31 2014, the confirmed dates for shipping are march 2014.
Promised vs Guaranteed shipping date, maybe it's what they are talking about?

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New Video up ... https://hashfast.com/join-the-bitcoin-mining-revolution/
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