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January 25, 2018, 04:51:03 AM
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ok so you guys (lutpin too) think giving many smerits to few members is ok than giving few smerits to many people .
sMerit are meant to be spent. Giving them to active people who read a lot and can thus distribute them is better than giving them to people who might just follow one thread, read one section, or are simply inactive.
It's on those who have sMerit to keep redistributing them and spread their Merits into the community.

so you think only 5-10 members are active daily ?? cant you find even 20-30 different eligible members for your smerits ??

if there are only 5-10 active users , then rules cant do anything ..

sMerit basically should be given to those who makes a quality post, being active here everyday doesn't mean you're a good one. We must be very responsible on doing this to prevent abuse here in forum, we should be fair on giving merits for every ranks.

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January 25, 2018, 04:52:52 AM
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Now very soon we seen new type of services.
Merit service in telegram groups, pay for merit(
Shitposter detected, you're bashing the newly requirement to rank up because the account youre using is just an alt. Although it might happen but still i believe the admins and DT will punish those who do the pay for merit service.

It will be a little hard if it will be done outside this forum, like telegram as warning_btc said. people are really smart, they will always find a way to make money themselves.

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January 25, 2018, 04:59:42 AM
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Will this affect people who got negative trust? I mean in a way they  having a lot of merits can give you a good image despite having negative trust from dt members. Its like a way to redeem mistake for better of for another attempt?.
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January 25, 2018, 05:04:12 AM
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Will this affect people who got negative trust? I mean in a way they  having a lot of merits can give you a good image despite having negative trust from dt members. Its like a way to redeem mistake for better of for another attempt?.
Merit does not hide trust nor does it effect trust. All three of trust, activity, and merit are unrelated to each other and independent of each other. Merit is effectively a measure of post quality. Trust is a measure of trustworthiness. An untrustworthy user can create a high quality post that is worth merit.

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January 25, 2018, 05:08:33 AM
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Merits credited now should be based on the current activity.
Like for my case current activity is 112, to become a Full Member I need 120.

112/120 = 93.33%

Should have 93 instead of just 10.

The merits credited for the newly ranked and those that is close to ranking up is the same. That's not fair.

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January 25, 2018, 05:09:53 AM
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I feel that this merit thing is introduced just to solve the problems of spam and shit posting done my users having ranks hero or below. So I would suggest you to add Demerits as well inorder to make legendary members do the same .

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January 25, 2018, 05:12:16 AM
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Hi guys . . I thought I had a pretty good grasp of the merit system, but after reading I'm still confused.

What is to prevent someone from just giving their sMerit to a sock puppet account?  

And if someone does not have enough merit, they not be allowed to move up the ranks  ie, from full to senior member

I see this as a good thing to prevent these damn spam and farming accounts for bounties, etc

But won't people just ask their forum buddies to give them some merit so they can rank up if they do not have enough?

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January 25, 2018, 05:12:58 AM
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I was thinking that the problem would be ppl below Member might hardly get any merit as observed.

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January 25, 2018, 05:13:41 AM
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Hi guys . . I thought I had a pretty good grasp of the merit system, but after reading I'm still confused.

What is to prevent someone from just giving their sMerit to a sock puppet account?  

And if someone does not have enough merit, would they not be allowed to move up the ranks?  ie, from full to senior member?  

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January 25, 2018, 05:15:02 AM
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Will this affect people who got negative trust? I mean in a way they  having a lot of merits can give you a good image despite having negative trust from dt members. Its like a way to redeem mistake for better of for another attempt?.

I guess we can not see it that way. Because merit is only a representation of our post quality post which got merit-ed from people who appreciates it, while negative trust is a trust given to someone because of their in-ethical deeds like spamming, scamming, etc.
So, in my conclusion, one trust can not affect or diminish other kind of trust, and we need to see all trust to measure a person behind the account.


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January 25, 2018, 05:15:33 AM
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How about many twinks which will increase merits each one?  Huh Is there a protect system?
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January 25, 2018, 05:16:38 AM
 #352

Hi guys . . I thought I had a pretty good grasp of the merit system, but after reading I'm still confused.

What is to prevent someone from just giving their sMerit to a sock puppet account?  

And if someone does not have enough merit, they not be allowed to move up the ranks  ie, from full to senior member

I see this as a good thing to prevent these damn spam and farming accounts for bounties, etc

But won't people just ask their forum buddies to give them some merit so they can rank up if they do not have enough?
This way it would be easier to find alt accounts and give them negative trust. We can easily make out if a person gives his entire smerit to another user then it will most likely be his alt.

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January 25, 2018, 05:18:15 AM
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What is to prevent someone from just giving their sMerit to a sock puppet account? 
That they only have a limited amount of sMerit to give.

And if someone does not have enough merit, they not be allowed to move up the ranks  ie, from full to senior member
Yes. That's essentially the whole point of this system.

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January 25, 2018, 05:21:02 AM
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I can't express how happy i'm from this decision. The decision will stop every crap and off topic poster from getting rank up and all genuine members of the community will able to get what they deserve. The decision will make the community stronger.
Bulk Account farming will not be possible anymore and the person has to put a lot of efforts to rank up their alts which will be time consuming and irritating for them. Smiley

Will deleting my post with merit points will also lead to the deletion of all the merit points? that will be only question from my side. Hope someone able to answer this one.

Thanks admin for implementing such a great ad to the forum.
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January 25, 2018, 05:21:27 AM
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What is to prevent someone from just giving their sMerit to a sock puppet account?  
That they only have a limited amount of sMerit to give.

And if someone does not have enough merit, they not be allowed to move up the ranks  ie, from full to senior member
Yes. That's essentially the whole point of this system.

Thank you for clarifying. I like the idea of this, but need to fully research it. The bots, sock puppets, and blatant troll accounts are getting on my last nerve in the threads I frequent regularly. Lets hope this slows their roll  Grin

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January 25, 2018, 05:23:01 AM
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How about many twinks which will increase merits each one?  Huh Is there a protect system?
Quality Posting anti trolling or farming account consider to merit that you have own and give to other have posting constructive needed to make merit and count to activity.

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January 25, 2018, 05:23:12 AM
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Will deleting my post with merit points will also lead to the deletion of all the merit points? that will be only question from my side. Hope someone able to answer this one.

Nope.

How about if the post merited is deleted? Will the merit count? Or erased too? Because somebody could just use merit for unreasonable purpose.

The merit is not undone if the post is deleted.

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January 25, 2018, 05:24:02 AM
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While it's good idea, i think it won't help much if we're posts something constructive, but other members don't understand what we're talking about (such as using SegWit to help bitcoin network thanks to lower weight size) & they would think we're talking no-sense.


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January 25, 2018, 05:27:42 AM
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so you think only 5-10 members are active daily ?? cant you find even 20-30 different eligible members for your smerits ??
There are more than 5-10 members that have sMerits. Hundreds of thousands of users got some number of sMerits. There are also 35 merit sources who produce sMerit out of nothingness.

So when people start selling them it will be equivalent to an ICO for sMeritcoins?  Cheesy

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January 25, 2018, 05:28:11 AM
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How about many twinks which will increase merits each one?  Huh Is there a protect system?
Quality Posting anti trolling or farming account consider to merit that you have own and give to other have posting constructive needed to make merit and count to activity.
Well... But I do not understand. If someone has 10 twinks. Why do not they just give merits to the main account?
If a person A gives 1 merit to a person B, does it mean that the person A lose 1 merit from the profile?
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