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January 25, 2018, 11:41:14 AM
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Just a joke (by no way serious joking). This is the best thing I receive as an early Bitcointalker.

Anyway, when I first scanned through this topic, I thought I am going to lose all my progress and "hard work" - okay, maybe 'medium' quality posts since 90% of the time I am tagged with signature campaign - to this system. I immediately check my profile and was relived when I saw that I have 1000 merit.

Guess why I don't want to lose my legendary status? Well, because I have plan to put this on my CV/resume. (Alright, just a joke, in today era).

Hey. If you are reading this, send me a private message so that I know you're awesome!
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January 25, 2018, 11:41:48 AM
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I always tried to write messages on the merits. Very disappointing not to get the next rank. I had less than a week to go to the Full Member.
It would be fair to introduce new rules after January 30.
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January 25, 2018, 11:42:04 AM
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I can feel the frustration of those who were just a few activity points from full, senior or hero.
No love for us frustrated almost legendary members?  Cry

With your big name, posts you've made, and time you have spent on this forum, I guess 50 merit points isn't that far. It will be quicker than a blink of an eye  Cool


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January 25, 2018, 11:44:03 AM
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Which currency am I talking about?
Merit isn't a currency, and has nothing to do with a currency.



It would be fair to introduce new rules after January 30.
But then what about the other people that are one week away from achieving the next rank? It'd be unfair to them to change it on Jan 30th, so it should be pushed back. But then what about the people that are now one period away from ranking up?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
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January 25, 2018, 11:45:12 AM
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I totally agree with this new system, because with this we can force someone who can only copy posts to change their mind, and this will make the participant with a fake account may be a bit on tap, but I'm still confused, how do I get this merit , whereas I live a little longer to senior member, I have to say what to get this merit? at least I've not made a shit post, if someone who never made a shit post but never gets up in rank due to lack of merit, it's like discrimination against someone

so sad for you that you missed 2 activity before ranking up to sr member. now you need to earn 150 more merits to rank up just like fresh full member.



anyway, As a bounty hunters, I also agree with this system. atleast now farm account will take a hard time to rank up. less high rank member = more stakes on bounty

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January 25, 2018, 11:47:51 AM
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This new merit system looks too cool even though I have a long way to be Legendary. I might be the unluckiest user. Grin

Yes, you are a very unlucky friend)) I'll support you) I give you 1 + Merit
Your position is much better than that of junior ranks, and beginners will now think a hundred times to start a career, this is a long way, now it is very difficult without effort and imagination to climb up.

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January 25, 2018, 11:48:35 AM
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I have a question - if I helped 2 months in the topic in pushing transactions, then the new system will not give me anything? (a locked account) and accordingly in the current account, if you continue to help newcomers in pushing their transactions, then there will be no reward? I understand correctly?

in theory you can be the most helpfull person in the forum and still remain a newbie for life  Smiley

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January 25, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
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Is there a way to track those merits from one user to another rather than checking the threads they posted and people who merited them? Will you be adding a history page to see the merits send/received?


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January 25, 2018, 11:49:39 AM
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I can feel the frustration of those who were just a few activity points from full, senior or hero.
No love for us frustrated almost legendary members?  Cry

There is Smiley , but due to the randomness of activity requirement for Legendary you have a chance of getting enough Merit beforehand.

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Is there a way to track those merits from one user to another rather than checking the threads they posted and people who merited them? Will you be adding a history page to see the merits send/received?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit


This is only my guessing, is theymos' UID the reason why he picked 35 people as Merit sources?
If not, it's just a coincidence...

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January 25, 2018, 11:53:20 AM
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In general I think this new rules for ranking up are a very good improvement of the system, an improvement which was badly needed. The level of most of the posts lately has become unbarebly low and the issue had to be adressed, and I think this solution should work, or at least help. But of course, personally I cannot really rejoyce of the new system having been implemented right now. I would have ranked up to Hero Member in 5 days, next week. Now it may take me months if not years to get the 250 merit points which I'm missing - even though I usually do my best to make good posts, I have my doubts people will be generous to give away their sMerits. Pity for me, but an overall improvement for our common home.

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January 25, 2018, 11:54:43 AM
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Is there a way to track those merits from one user to another rather than checking the threads they posted and people who merited them? Will you be adding a history page to see the merits send/received?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit



Thanks!

Is there a way to avoid duplication with this system? I accidentally clicked/refreshed twice the merit page.


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January 25, 2018, 12:01:14 PM
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I have a question - if I helped 2 months in the topic in pushing transactions, then the new system will not give me anything? (a locked account) and accordingly in the current account, if you continue to help newcomers in pushing their transactions, then there will be no reward? I understand correctly?

in theory you can be the most helpfull person in the forum and still remain a newbie for life  Smiley

well, you are right. you don't need to become high rank member if you just want to share or read news or information here unless you are a bounty hunters.
jr.member is doesn't need merit though so your will be rank once. Cheesy

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  • Its economy is based on a trickle-down effect.

This is especially worrisome. It is well known that the trickle-down effect does not work.

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January 25, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
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To be honest, I haven't read all the replies on this topic.
But I have one concern I want to share: How to avoid members from selling Merit?

Similar to selling/buying accounts this might be used to get more accounts of a higher rank.

Edit: Hurr durr, there was already a topic in Meta about this concern. Sorry for the unnecessary post.
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January 25, 2018, 12:12:57 PM
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with this new system, I think there will be certain parties who act very powerful, and as if they want to be worshiped in order to get rewarded from it,
maybe like that system I understand, I still hope there will be a wiser system from this, because I think it will be many of the members who will continue to be in the same rank with a long time, even though they make an amazing post, it is not will take effect before he gets merit.

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January 25, 2018, 12:14:57 PM
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I guess I was lucky a little bit. It is a good idea for Merit implementation.
But I'm worried a little bit. A number that is required for leveling up might be to high.
I mean Bitcointalk is not like a Facebook, I love Bitcointalk and hate Facebook, just saying,
But this is not a chat where like button is usual. That will change some things on here.

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January 25, 2018, 12:15:10 PM
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This is especially worrisome. It is well known that the trickle-down effect does not work.

In terms of economics, it is less well known but equally true that trickle-down was not ever advocated but merely a straw man created by the left to discredit the right.

In terms of the merit system, however, I think it has a good chance of being an effective way to distribute the points. The merit sources can't do all the work themselves and scour the whole forum. When they leave points to someone for a good post then that person is also likely to be a reasonable judge of what is deserving.
Can you suggest a better way of doing it?


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January 25, 2018, 12:15:27 PM
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For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required for your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.
I don't agree with this, this is just like giving the "old members" (including me) a head start. I'm not saying that earning merits is a race but giving us a head start also means giving us a free reputation out of nothing. That does not necessarily mean we need to rebuild our reputation from zero, I mean there are so many members that have earned a good reputation on this forum.
So I think the merit points for old members have to be given based on their reputation now and without affecting the rank.

Anyway, I think this is gonna be the end of account farming.














 

 

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January 25, 2018, 12:16:13 PM
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with this new system, I think there will be certain parties who act very powerful, and as if they want to be rewarded for it, maybe that's the system I understand, I still hope there will be a wiser system than this , because I think it will be a lot of the members who will continue to be on the same rank for a long time, even if they make an amazing post, it will have no effect before he gets merit.
This will turns into a game of powers not for newbies or newcomers anymore Smiley
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