Merit & new rank requirements

[Lutpin]

Well... But I do not understand. If someone has 10 twinks. Why do not they just give merits to the main account?
If a person A gives 1 merit to a person B, does it mean that the person A lose 1 merit from the profile?

Reason A: because you only have a limited amount of sMerit available to send.
Reason B: Because that would be fucking obvious and althunters would be all over your ass.

Or why do people not send trust to/with all their alt accounts? Same situation, really.

[TMAN]

I think you should also change polls so only Members with merits can vote.. they should also be closed polls so people cannot see who is voting the same as now..

this should help clean up reputation a little bit and will give much more credit to the fewer polls that are started.. also we will see less votes against the DT members as the Pajeets wont have any merits to vote with..

[kanways8]

new update. now so hard to upgrade our ranks. anyway good work 

[athanz88]

I can't express how happy i'm from this decision. The decision will stop every crap and off topic poster from getting rank up and all genuine members of the community will able to get what they deserve. The decision will make the community stronger.
Bulk Account farming will not be possible anymore and the person has to put a lot of efforts to rank up their alts which will be time consuming and irritating for them.

Will deleting my post with merit points will also lead to the deletion of all the merit points? that will be only question from my side. Hope someone able to answer this one.

Thanks admin for implementing such a great ad to the forum.

As far as I know from reading this topic, merit points is locked after u achieved it, lets say you reach 1000 merit points and then some of your posts are deleted by mods, then your merit will stay at 1000.
I guess it applies too if you delete your own post, but i believe mods or admin will know if you delete it on your own then making the same post again to farm merit points by deceiving people. So, dont do that.

[yourcatsofat]

Well... But I do not understand. If someone has 10 twinks. Why do not they just give merits to the main account?
If a person A gives 1 merit to a person B, does it mean that the person A lose 1 merit from the profile?

Not quite like that. Person B will increase his merit points (shown on profile) and also receive 0.5 sMerit (sendable Merit) & person A will lose 1 sMerit. Merit points on your profile cannot be decreased. 

Oh, it is more clear now, thanks! But another question. Will Person B get 1Merit and 0.5sMerit or 0.5 Merit and 0.5 sMerit if person A sends 1 Merit to him?

Well... But I do not understand. If someone has 10 twinks. Why do not they just give merits to the main account?
If a person A gives 1 merit to a person B, does it mean that the person A lose 1 merit from the profile?

Reason A: because you only have a limited amount of sMerit available to send.
Reason B: Because that would be fucking obvious and althunters would be all over your ass.

Or why do people not send trust to/with all their alt accounts? Same situation, really.

Yes. Now I understand that.

[sapta]

Well... But I do not understand. If someone has 10 twinks. Why do not they just give merits to the main account?
If a person A gives 1 merit to a person B, does it mean that the person A lose 1 merit from the profile?

Not quite like that. Person B will increase his merit points (shown on profile) and also receive 0.5 sMerit (sendable Merit) & person A will lose 1 sMerit. Merit points on your profile cannot be decreased. 

Oh, it is more clear now, thanks! But another question. Will Person B get 1Merit and 0.5sMerit or 0.5 Merit and 0.5 sMerit if person A sends 1 Merit to him?
I understand that.

Oh forgot to mention that person B will get 1 Merit & 0.5 sMerit.

[Lassie]

I can't express how happy i'm from this decision. The decision will stop every crap and off topic poster from getting rank up and all genuine members of the community will able to get what they deserve. The decision will make the community stronger.
Bulk Account farming will not be possible anymore and the person has to put a lot of efforts to rank up their alts which will be time consuming and irritating for them.

Will deleting my post with merit points will also lead to the deletion of all the merit points? that will be only question from my side. Hope someone able to answer this one.

Thanks admin for implementing such a great ad to the forum.

Merit points will stay as theymos said

The merit is not undone if the post is deleted.

[yourcatsofat]

Well... But I do not understand. If someone has 10 twinks. Why do not they just give merits to the main account?
If a person A gives 1 merit to a person B, does it mean that the person A lose 1 merit from the profile?

Not quite like that. Person B will increase his merit points (shown on profile) and also receive 0.5 sMerit (sendable Merit) & person A will lose 1 sMerit. Merit points on your profile cannot be decreased. 

Oh, it is more clear now, thanks! But another question. Will Person B get 1Merit and 0.5sMerit or 0.5 Merit and 0.5 sMerit if person A sends 1 Merit to him?
I understand that.

Oh forgot to mention that person B will get 1 Merit & 0.5 sMerit.

And where can I see how many sMerits available for me? There is only Merit information in the profile

[iCEBREAKER]

Sorry, I was lazy

Where's that demerit button when you need one...  

A possible workaround for no demerit button is to chastise the low-quality poster with a Merit Nazi "NO MERIT FOR YOU!" post private message.

[TMAN]

Well... But I do not understand. If someone has 10 twinks. Why do not they just give merits to the main account?
If a person A gives 1 merit to a person B, does it mean that the person A lose 1 merit from the profile?

Reason A: because you only have a limited amount of sMerit available to send.
Reason B: Because that would be fucking obvious and althunters would be all over your ass.

Or why do people not send trust to/with all their alt accounts? Same situation, really.

There will be a shit load of "favoritism" from the collectibles section as a large % of us all socialize off forum..

the Alt master turned Alt Hunter QS will be chucking up REP threads left right and center.. LUTPIN=LAUDA=MINI=ZEPHER=ACTMYNAME=TMAN=MITCHELL=LAUDA etc etc...

he will just judge us by his own standards, even though we are more likely to read each others posts more carefully

[sapta]

And where can I see how many sMerits available for me? There is only Merit information in the profile

Here ya go:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

[Viper1]

I know this is all new and shiny and so people are going to play with it.. But giving merit to someone who's already legendary for a post they did 2-3 years ago? Really? If some good ol boys are going to use it to give ppl that don't need it even more merit, then what use is it for those that can actually use it? At the very least I would strongly suggest removing that as a possibility. In fact, since people are incapable of acting responsibly, I would suggest coming up with some scheme where a person has to spread it around to people with different ranks.

[Lutpin]

But giving merit to someone who's already legendary for a post they did 2-3 years ago? Really?

I got merit for a thread I made in 2016 regarding a problem that is still relevant. The thread itself is on the first page of this very section and is updated (edited) to stay relevant.
Do I have to give those merits back? If so, where do I send them.
I'm sorry for hogging fame off something I did years ago. Wont ever happen again.

[HabBear]

Wow, what a brilliant idea. Great work, Theymos and crew!

A thought just occurred to me which I'm sure occurred to the Admin crew before instilling this new merit system, but I'll ask it anyway to make sure it's covered.

Are there controls in place to prevent someone from granting merit to their own post?

I know this is all new and shiny and so people are going to play with it.. But giving merit to someone who's already legendary for a post they did 2-3 years ago?

You're over thinking it. Merit isn't worth something to the account holder once they've reached top status levels. Merit is a gift you can give to others to reward their contribution to this community.

[Viper1]

But giving merit to someone who's already legendary for a post they did 2-3 years ago? Really?

I got merit for a thread I made in 2016 regarding a problem that is still relevant. The thread itself is on the first page of this very section and is updated (edited) to stay relevant.
Do I have to give those merits back? If so, where do I send them.
I'm sorry for hogging fame off something I did years ago. Wont ever happen again.

You're not a legendary yet. I don't know what your post is about but if you keep it updated then I'm certainly fine with that. The post I'm referring to was not yours. But is this the sort of thing we're going to see now. People running around patting all their friends on the back for posts they did years ago. Is that really what it's supposed to be?

[erikalui]

It's like liking somebody's post you agree with or that's constructive. I saw I have 200 smerit and it expires if unused but it doesn't mention a date or anything. However, still I don't like this concept as it looks like the forum turned into some social media website where merits=likes. Glad that demerit is not possible else I wouldn't imagine what would be the state then.

[TMAN]

But giving merit to someone who's already legendary for a post they did 2-3 years ago? Really?

I got merit for a thread I made in 2016 regarding a problem that is still relevant. The thread itself is on the first page of this very section and is updated (edited) to stay relevant.
Do I have to give those merits back? If so, where do I send them.
I'm sorry for hogging fame off something I did years ago. Wont ever happen again.

Well I have given you 2 merits..

reason being.. you provide value here fella.. I don't need to trawl through your posts to know that. if anyone complains they can fuck off.. you should of been legendary ages ago!

[shailkumari]

I liked this new concept and it will certainly help to make this a  stronger community with less fluff. Some doubts regarding this :

1) Sending merits to another member will result in deduction from the merit of original poster ?

2) Do you have some protection to prevent buying and selling of sendable  merits ?

3) Can merit be given for thread responses also or is it only for new threads opened by  a member ?

[Viper1]

Wow, what a brilliant idea. Great work, Theymos and crew!

A thought just occurred to me which I'm sure occurred to the Admin crew before instilling this new merit system, but I'll ask it anyway to make sure it's covered.

Are there controls in place to prevent someone from granting merit to their own post?

I know this is all new and shiny and so people are going to play with it.. But giving merit to someone who's already legendary for a post they did 2-3 years ago?

You're over thinking it. Merit isn't worth something to the account holder once they've reached top status levels. Merit is a gift you can give to others to reward their contribution to this community.

It's not any sort of "gift" when it's tied to a person being able to rank up their account. There's a limited amount of it available every month. So giving some of that to someone that doesn't "need it", isn't really being responsible with it.

[Lutpin]

You're not a legendary yet. I don't know what your post is about but if you keep it updated then I'm certainly fine with that. The post I'm referring to was not yours. But is this the sort of thing we're going to see now. People running around patting all their friends on the back for posts they did years ago. Is that really what it's supposed to be?

I've wasted 21 sMerit on satoshi. I'm sorry. He's not even my friend, I just felt like he deserved it (In my defense, he isnt a legendary yet).
I've still got over 300 sMerlit left and I promise to use them more considered.

Are there controls in place to prevent someone from granting merit to their own post?

Yes, try it.

1) Sending merits to another member will result in deduction from the merit of original poster ?

Read the OP, read the first reply with a dumbed down explanation.

3) Can merit be given for thread responses also or is it only for new threads opened by  a member ?

Any post.

2) Do you have some protection to prevent buying and selling of sendable  merits ?

It's restricted. Banhammer, I guess?!