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January 24, 2018, 11:41:02 PM
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The minimum to credit should be 0.00000001 merit. At least with respect to Bitcoin.  Cheesy Cheesy

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January 24, 2018, 11:41:51 PM
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What about those people who demerited someone? They have already added the smerits to their balances.
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January 24, 2018, 11:42:23 PM
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I am definitely for all improvements to the forum and getting rid of spam posts.  I just wish it started after the next rank up period as I was set to become a member with activity of 60.  Thanks again for trying to make this a better system.

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January 24, 2018, 11:43:18 PM
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I'm not sure I fully understand this new system. The only way to get merit is if someone merits one of your posts? The sMerits are not renewed after sometime? If that's the case and the only way for new merits to enter the circulation is from the sources, atleast until things balance out, people won't easily spend their merits and we will see a large portion of merits comes from the sources themselves. That might be unfair for people who post in less popular sections of the forum. Take for example the local boards, if there is no source that regularly reads there, people will get less merits for their posts, even if they are great posts. This will make the less populated sections even more abandoned.

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January 24, 2018, 11:43:41 PM
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The minimum to credit should be 0.00000001 merit. At least with respect to Bitcoin.  Cheesy Cheesy

Lols, then we should have a maximum of 21 million merit points on this forum.
Once we reach that number no more points getting "mined".

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January 24, 2018, 11:43:46 PM
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I have 500 merits as hero member. Does it mean this is minimum and I can't lose it?

Along with account sales, trust farming, cheating signature/bounty campaigns and all other shady activities I am sure we will see merit farming.
It won't change single thing about spamming:

Rank   Required activity   Required merit
Brand new   0                 0
Newbie   1                      0
Jr Member   30                0
Member   60                   10

Instead of spamming 30 days to reach junior member status we will see newbies spamming for 2-3 months until they reach member status and join  campaigns, and what will they do before they reach member status?
They will create more accounts, because they will need lots accounts to get merit points and rank up to higher ranks or they will just do "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" with other "I need merit" users.
Don't see how merit will help against spam.

On side note can you update this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats .

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January 24, 2018, 11:46:28 PM
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What about those people who demerited someone? They have already added the smerits to their balances.
Fixed already.

It's actually gone, those are just cached.

I am definitely for all improvements to the forum and getting rid of spam posts.  I just wish it started after the next rank up period as I was set to become a member with activity of 60.  Thanks again for trying to make this a better system.
Just do quality posts. It's easy man! Smiley

I have 500 merits as hero member. Does it mean this is minimum and I can't lose it?
Yes, as no one can demerit you (for now).

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New users don't start with any sMerit.

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January 24, 2018, 11:46:41 PM
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(Achievement guys, for real) As a Gamer Chick I dig this.  
Not trying to be a dick here but what does you being a "Gamer Chick" have anything to do with this topic?  Why does every girl that games feel the need to announce it?

I'm a Gamer Boy feed me attention!

Sorry! I did not know that was a thing all gamer chicks wrote - I could of course just have written gamer - but I really do not have a dick. And being sexless in a forum is boring - I prefer to be held accountable  as woman. Since I am somewhat older I think chick was wrong of me. And for that I apologize.

Anyhow, it is achievements - as a gamer - I dig it.

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January 24, 2018, 11:47:23 PM
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I like this, now we will see more constructive comments/posts on threads. It will be easier for bounty managers to determinate who is eligible for signature campaigns. I expect more comments in the local section of the forum.
What else to say, great job admin!
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January 24, 2018, 11:47:29 PM
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For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

As a user who went from Brand New to Full Member in 2017, should my sendable merit (sMerit) be equal to 6?
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January 24, 2018, 11:49:41 PM
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Instead of spamming 30 days to reach junior member status we will see newbies spamming for 2-3 months until they reach member status and join  campaigns, and what will they do before they reach member status?
They will create more accounts, because they will need lots accounts to get merit points and rank up to higher ranks or they will just do "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" with other "I need merit" users.
Don't see how merit will help against spam.


As I understood, as newbie and jr. member you have no smerits. So that means that you have to be at least a member to be able to award a smerit. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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January 24, 2018, 11:50:06 PM
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Oh so it's a bug, ok  Cheesy
thanks man  Smiley

I'm the one who sent you negative 5 merit because of your post is trash.

Now I'm still trying to send you another negative 5 merit but it was now invalid amount of merit.

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January 24, 2018, 11:51:24 PM
Merited by mprep (1)
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It would be nice to be able to see which of our posts was merited. Right now I can't seem to find a way to see that kind of info.
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January 24, 2018, 11:51:53 PM
Merited by Lutpin (3), stompix (3), DarkStar_ (1), jtipt (1), RGBKey (1)
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It would be nice to be able to see which of our posts was merited. Right now I can't seem to find a way to see that kind of info.

You can here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

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January 24, 2018, 11:52:38 PM
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Finally, we were able to enjoy meaningful and useful posts, and prevent spammers from harming the forum. Roll Eyes
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January 24, 2018, 11:52:55 PM
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(Achievement guys, for real) As a Gamer Chick I dig this.  
Not trying to be a dick here but what does you being a "Gamer Chick" have anything to do with this topic?  Why does every girl that games feel the need to announce it?

I'm a Gamer Boy feed me attention!

Sorry! I did not know that was a thing all gamer chicks wrote - I could of course just have written gamer - but I really do not have a dick. And being sexless in a forum is boring - I prefer to be held accountable  as woman. Since I am somewhat older I think chick was wrong of me. And for that I apologize.

Anyhow, it is achievements - as a gamer - I dig it.
That's fair enough I suppose.  The point I was trying to make was this: Dudes don't say things like "I'm a gamer boy/man", so why do girls feel the need to do it?  It doesn't need to be announced by either gender.  Not necessarily you, but there's a lot of girls out there that do it and it's real weird.  Gamer is genderless; it applies to both.  Nobody really cares if you're a man or woman on the internet, the only time other guys care if you're a woman is if they're going to be a creep about it.

Anyways I'm wayyyy off-topic here lol.  Just wanted to make my point.  (Sorry Theymos!)

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January 24, 2018, 11:56:15 PM
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Thanks for the nice explanation Admin. Much appreciated! However now that you have given an weapon (sMerit) to the existing high level members, it will soon be treated like a commodity. I am sure, we will see it being traded secretly in exchange of money since merit point has now become mandatory to rank up. The merit system will be abused heavily.

How to handle this situation?

Edit- I have just noticed that my account has been downgraded from Legendary to Hero.

Edit 2- it again came back to Legendary level.

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January 24, 2018, 11:56:30 PM
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I have 500 merits as hero member. Does it mean this is minimum and I can't lose it?

Along with account sales, trust farming, cheating signature/bounty campaigns and all other shady activities I am sure we will see merit farming.
It won't change single thing about spamming:

Rank   Required activity   Required merit
Brand new   0                 0
Newbie   1                      0
Jr Member   30                0
Member   60                   10

Instead of spamming 30 days to reach junior member status we will see newbies spamming for 2-3 months until they reach member status and join  campaigns, and what will they do before they reach member status?
They will create more accounts, because they will need lots accounts to get merit points and rank up to higher ranks or they will just do "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" with other "I need merit" users.
Don't see how merit will help against spam.

On side note can you update this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats .

Lutpin answered this.


You can only give 50 merit to a user in a 30 day window.
Unless they have an alt account, they cannot give you 100 merit (right now).

So it will still take you 2 months to get that 100 merits that you need then some activity again to be a full member.
That will somehow make them weary of making too much accounts just so they could upgrade one.

So 5 months to have 250 merits and activities to be a Senior Member.
That will need a lot of good posting because those 10 Member ranks that he created lacks the smerit afterwards.

Now I am getting the idea of it.
It could somehow make one person focus on just one account instead of too many which post quality gets bad when his brain is too tired.  Grin


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January 24, 2018, 11:56:53 PM
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This new features makes all users forcing to post more constructive/ quality post to make us able to ranked up.

But how many merits to be considered to be qualify for ranking up?

Also it is required to send all the merits to other users?
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January 24, 2018, 11:57:20 PM
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I'm very happy that things have started to happen, hopefully we can all stop bitching about account farming now (including me). Tongue
Thanks so much theymos, I'm looking forward to this becoming a forum I enjoy visiting again.
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