[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[Bargraphics]

ActM is probably going to be only third on the 28nm market

Sorry for my lack of research, but who is #2? (assuming KnC is #1)

fpga copy 28 nm:
KnC
ActiveMining

fully-custom 28 nm:
BFL (not sure if custom, but specs look like it is)
HashFast
Cointerra


If it's not the second, it's going to be bad.

Not entirely sure this is accruate

Structured Design:
ActiveMining

Standard-Cell Design
KnC

Full-Custom
Bitfury
HashFast
Cointerra

BFL Falls in either Standard-Cell or Full-Custom

[zumzero]

Only 45,000 shares to take it to 0.001 btc per share on Bitfunder.

Goes to show that on good news the price will recover rapidly.

[knybe]

If you keep your investors successful and happy, then you will be successful and happy!  When the tough gets going, start spewing off more old cheesy phrases like you're making 80's commercials.  
And remember, patience is a virtue!  So please guys, keep investing, and keep on truckin'.  Activemining - it's so active, you're going to lose your socks!

..MENTOS...

you're such a ReactiveMiner.

[dexX7]

Thanks. There is also bitmine.ch.

[kleeck]

Thanks. There is also bitmine.ch.

Bitmine.ch, the site that's somehow uglier than activeminingcorp.com.  

I think the two relevant factors here are $/Gh and ship date.

Edit: Oooh. They've updated the site. Still nasty, but less random. And they now offer hosting options... hmmm...

[Stuartuk]

This is a very thin market so these price moves on a few dozen btc are inconsequential. You are right ofcourse, a bit of excellent news and we are back where we should be but this is about the divs for me so 0.001 or 0.007 I'm holding till the end. The more shares you hold the more divs you will get. Simples. This is still an excellent risk/reward proposition for long term div payout. But be sensible and only risk what you can afford to lose. Personally I'm fully loaded and really looking forward to the next few weeks.  I mean with btc on a dramatic rise how exciting is this right now?

[aquarius]

Ken, can we get an update on how we are going to get our shares out of bitfunder?

Only one week to go before deadline.

[knybe]

Ken, can we get an update on how we are going to get our shares out of bitfunder?

Only one week to go before deadline.

your shares are safe...
Supplemental Notice (October 11, 2013):

As of October 8, 2013, BitFunder is not assessing any new fees against any user BitFunder knows to be a U.S. person and whose account will be restricted in accordance with BitFunder's October 8, 2013 notice.

Users who are U.S. persons or users who fail for any reason to provide the information necessary to obtain "Verified" status are encouraged to transfer their shares from the BitFunder site to the respective issuer(s) no later than December 1, 2013.

As of December 2, 2013, BitFunder will initiate a transfer from the BitFunder site to the respective issuer(s) of any remaining shares held by any users that BitFunder knows to be U.S. persons or who did not obtain "Verified" status by December 1, 2013, and will provide the issuer(s) with the public bitcoin address associated with the user account. After transfer, each user will need to work with the issuer(s) with respect to the future treatment of the shares.

On December 2, 2013, all bitcoin balances in the accounts of users that BitFunder knows to be U.S. persons and users that did not obtain "Verified" status by December 1 will be transferred to their linked WeExchange accounts.

[aquarius]

Ken, can we get an update on how we are going to get our shares out of bitfunder?

Only one week to go before deadline.

Supplemental Notice (October 11, 2013):

Supplemental Notice (October 11, 2013)

As of October 8, 2013, BitFunder is not assessing any new fees against any user BitFunder knows to be a U.S. person and whose account will be restricted in accordance with BitFunder's October 8, 2013 notice.

Users who are U.S. persons or users who fail for any reason to provide the information necessary to obtain "Verified" status are encouraged to transfer their shares from the BitFunder site to the respective issuer(s) no later than December 1, 2013.

As of December 2, 2013, BitFunder will initiate a transfer from the BitFunder site to the respective issuer(s) of any remaining shares held by any users that BitFunder knows to be U.S. persons or who did not obtain "Verified" status by December 1, 2013, and will provide the issuer(s) with the public bitcoin address associated with the user account. After transfer, each user will need to work with the issuer(s) with respect to the future treatment of the shares.

On December 2, 2013, all bitcoin balances in the accounts of users that BitFunder knows to be U.S. persons and users that did not obtain "Verified" status by December 1 will be transferred to their linked WeExchange accounts.

Thanks!

So the deadline is December 1 then.

[canth]

Ken, can we get an update on how we are going to get our shares out of bitfunder?

Only one week to go before deadline.

Supplemental Notice (October 11, 2013):

Supplemental Notice (October 11, 2013)

As of October 8, 2013, BitFunder is not assessing any new fees against any user BitFunder knows to be a U.S. person and whose account will be restricted in accordance with BitFunder's October 8, 2013 notice.

Users who are U.S. persons or users who fail for any reason to provide the information necessary to obtain "Verified" status are encouraged to transfer their shares from the BitFunder site to the respective issuer(s) no later than December 1, 2013.

As of December 2, 2013, BitFunder will initiate a transfer from the BitFunder site to the respective issuer(s) of any remaining shares held by any users that BitFunder knows to be U.S. persons or who did not obtain "Verified" status by December 1, 2013, and will provide the issuer(s) with the public bitcoin address associated with the user account. After transfer, each user will need to work with the issuer(s) with respect to the future treatment of the shares.

On December 2, 2013, all bitcoin balances in the accounts of users that BitFunder knows to be U.S. persons and users that did not obtain "Verified" status by December 1 will be transferred to their linked WeExchange accounts.

Thanks!

So the deadline is December 1 then.

Technically it's not even a deadline really. After that, Ken still has your share info and you'll just have untradeable shares until such time as there's an exchange to trade them on. He can still pay out dividends to the address you've got on file with BF. Obviously that's not an ideal situation, but it's really no worse than holding AM direct shares.

[iCEBREAKER]

https://hashfast.com/?p=2445&preview=true

Bad news for the competition, good news for ActM. Looking forward to seeing updates from Ken soon!

So bALLBREAKER has to wait for his machines.  Oh well, you win some you lose some.

I always presumed "anticipated late October shipping" marketspeak translates into 'mid November actual shipping.'

There was never good reason to assume the most optimistic scenario would be the one to actually occur.

Only a noob ACTM investor would not account for Hofstadter's Law when pre-ordering ASICs.

In other news, the ACTM/IceDrill ratio has reached a record low, with ACTM crashing to .0006 and IceDrill recovering to .0008.

Why is this?

Because 120,000 IceDrill shares will get you 1.2TH of world-class HashFast hardware on a newly-solidified mid-Nov delivery schedule, while 120,000 ACTM shares won't get you anything (not even a clue as to if/when ACTM is shipping).

[Bargraphics]

Because 120,000 IceDrill shares will get you 1.2TH of world-class HashFast hardware on a newly-solidified mid-Nov delivery schedule (with no MPP)

FTFY

[VolanicEruptor]

https://hashfast.com/?p=2445&preview=true

Bad news for the competition, good news for ActM. Looking forward to seeing updates from Ken soon!

So bALLBREAKER has to wait for his machines.  Oh well, you win some you lose some.

I always presumed "anticipated late October shipping" marketspeak translates into 'mid November actual shipping.'

There was never good reason to assume the most optimistic scenario would be the one to actually occur.

Only a noob ACTM investor would not account for Hofstadter's Law when pre-ordering ASICs.

In other news, the ACTM/IceDrill ratio has reached a record low, with ACTM crashing to .0006 and IceDrill recovering to .0008.

Why is this?

Because 120,000 IceDrill shares will get you 1.2TH of world-class HashFast hardware on a newly-solidified mid-Nov delivery schedule, while 120,000 ACTM shares won't get you anything (not even a clue as to if/when ACTM is shipping).

hashslow is already announcing delays, so give it up already

[zumzero]

https://hashfast.com/?p=2445&preview=true

Bad news for the competition, good news for ActM. Looking forward to seeing updates from Ken soon!

So bALLBREAKER has to wait for his machines.  Oh well, you win some you lose some.

I always presumed "anticipated late October shipping" marketspeak translates into 'mid November actual shipping.'

There was never good reason to assume the most optimistic scenario would be the one to actually occur.

Only a noob ACTM investor would not account for Hofstadter's Law when pre-ordering ASICs.

In other news, the ACTM/IceDrill ratio has reached a record low, with ACTM crashing to .0006 and IceDrill recovering to .0008.

Why is this?

Because 120,000 IceDrill shares will get you 1.2TH of world-class HashFast hardware on a newly-solidified mid-Nov delivery schedule, while 120,000 ACTM shares won't get you anything (not even a clue as to if/when ACTM is shipping).

Yawn.

[iCEBREAKER]

hashslow is already announcing delays, so give it up already

Excluding the most optimistic shipping date from the range of possible outcomes is not a delay.

Anyone familiar with BTC ASICs knows better, expects the unexpected, and accounts for Hofstadter's Law.

HashFast customers now have more certainty and a firmer shipping date based on the updated, more accurate schedule.

OTOH, ACTM customers (all five of them) and investors (both of them) still know little to nothing about

1. Klondike status

2. FH chip specs (die size, dies per wafers per batch, etc).

3. FH chip schedule (batch size, timing, etc)

4. PR agent hire (promised last month)

5. balance sheet (promised last month)

6. Batcave status (lease signed?  $/sq ft?  $/kWhr?)


We know one share of IceDrill is worth 12MH/sec in mid-Nov.

We don't know how many MH/sec a share of ACTM represents, nor when it will be online.

You can redeem 120,000 shares of IceDrill for a 1.2TH Sierra with mid-Nov delivery.

You can't redeem 120,000 shares of ACTM for any amount of ASIC, with or without mid-Nov delivery.

[tom.hashemi]

Only 45,000 shares to take it to 0.001 btc per share on Bitfunder.

Goes to show that on good news the price will recover rapidly.

0.001 isn't quite a recovery... !

[crumbs]

Only 45,000 shares to take it to 0.001 btc per share on Bitfunder.

Goes to show that on good news the price will recover rapidly.

0.001 isn't quite a recovery... !

Lol, only 9k to take it down to .0004

[zumzero]

Only 45,000 shares to take it to 0.001 btc per share on Bitfunder.

Goes to show that on good news the price will recover rapidly.

0.001 isn't quite a recovery... !

Good news will result in a rapid recovery of share price.

[thefunkybits]

Only 45,000 shares to take it to 0.001 btc per share on Bitfunder.

Goes to show that on good news the price will recover rapidly.

0.001 isn't quite a recovery... !

Good news will result in a rapid recovery of share price.

This always happens...sell orders disappear and we pump on low volume. This time we will stay up there and hopefully more volume will come.

[zumzero]

hashslow is already announcing delays, so give it up already

Excluding the most optimistic shipping date from the range of possible outcomes is not a delay.

Anyone familiar with BTC ASICs knows better, expects the unexpected, and accounts for Hofstadter's Law.

HashFast customers now have more certainty and a firmer shipping date based on the updated, more accurate schedule.

OTOH, ACTM customers (all five of them) and investors (both of them) still know little to nothing about

1. Klondike status

2. FH chip specs (die size, dies per wafers per batch, etc).

3. FH chip schedule (batch size, timing, etc)

4. PR agent hire (promised last month)

5. balance sheet (promised last month)

6. Batcave status (lease signed?  $/sq ft?  $/kWhr?)


We know one share of IceDrill is worth 12MH/sec in mid-Nov.

We don't know how many MH/sec a share of ACTM represents, nor when it will be online.

You can redeem 120,000 shares of IceDrill for a 1.2TH Sierra with mid-Nov delivery.

You can't redeem 120,000 shares of ACTM for any amount of ASIC, with or without mid-Nov delivery.

You are indeed the re-hash king but my eyes grow heavy and I can't quite keep my self aw......


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