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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1453298 times)
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July 09, 2011, 01:31:53 PM
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deepbit.net/account Not Available for all?

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July 09, 2011, 01:36:56 PM
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deepbit.net/account Not Available for all?
Your account is not available to me.
But my account is available to me.
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July 09, 2011, 01:39:32 PM
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Pool down

Seems to have gone down a little bit ago.  All my miners went idle with connects, disconnects, but no work no matter the state.

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July 09, 2011, 01:41:26 PM
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Pool down

Seems to have gone down a little bit ago.  All my miners went idle with connects, disconnects, but no work no matter the state.
the same problem

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July 09, 2011, 02:03:41 PM
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It's up and running again !
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July 09, 2011, 02:30:58 PM
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Tycho, is there anything reliable that you can say about down-times due to ddos- or dns-attacks?
Because I really like your service over all other pools I have tried but I'm tired of checking my hashrate every 20minutes just to see if deepbit is down again or not.
Is there any statement possible at which point the servers will be stable again?

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July 09, 2011, 02:43:43 PM
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Tycho, is there anything reliable that you can say about down-times due to ddos- or dns-attacks?
Because I really like your service over all other pools I have tried but I'm tired of checking my hashrate every 20minutes just to see if deepbit is down again or not.
Is there any statement possible at which point the servers will be stable again?

Greetz

He is doing the best he can I am sure.
Some floods are quite simply not possible to stop, block, or do anything other than nullroute the IP (taking the site offline).

I am impressed that when I see them knock deepbit.net offline, the pool still accepts our work, and still records it.

He's done a great job keeping everything working, and you guys should try to understand whats involved here, rather then just asking when it will be fixed.

There is no problem to 'fix', and I don't expect the DDOSings to continue for long.
It was probably some looser either trying to stop the difficulty from increasing much, or trying to stop Tycho from having +50% of the hashrate.

All in all my workers only lost an hour in the last few days... That's not a big deal at all.
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July 09, 2011, 03:00:05 PM
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Tycho, is there anything reliable that you can say about down-times due to ddos- or dns-attacks?
Because I really like your service over all other pools I have tried but I'm tired of checking my hashrate every 20minutes just to see if deepbit is down again or not.
Is there any statement possible at which point the servers will be stable again?

Greetz

How could that possibly be answered?  Depends on the attack, the attacker and how difficult it is put up a defense against it.  Don't for a second think that other pools don't go down from attacks, because they do and none are as resilient and stable as Deepbit.

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July 09, 2011, 03:05:39 PM
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Tycho, is there anything reliable that you can say about down-times due to ddos- or dns-attacks?
Because I really like your service over all other pools I have tried but I'm tired of checking my hashrate every 20minutes just to see if deepbit is down again or not.
Is there any statement possible at which point the servers will be stable again?

Greetz

He is doing the best he can I am sure.
Some floods are quite simply not possible to stop, block, or do anything other than nullroute the IP (taking the site offline).

I am impressed that when I see them knock deepbit.net offline, the pool still accepts our work, and still records it.

He's done a great job keeping everything working, and you guys should try to understand whats involved here, rather then just asking when it will be fixed.

There is no problem to 'fix', and I don't expect the DDOSings to continue for long.
It was probably some looser either trying to stop the difficulty from increasing much, or trying to stop Tycho from having +50% of the hashrate.

All in all my workers only lost an hour in the last few days... That's not a big deal at all.

Thanks.
This is exactly how I think, I'm not accusing Tycho for these problems. I'm sure he is doing the best he can.

Btw, would it be realistic to think that these attacks could also exist because people want miners to go offline in order to drastically decrease the difficulty for a week?

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July 09, 2011, 03:34:10 PM
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Tycho, is there anything reliable that you can say about down-times due to ddos- or dns-attacks?
Because I really like your service over all other pools I have tried but I'm tired of checking my hashrate every 20minutes just to see if deepbit is down again or not.
Is there any statement possible at which point the servers will be stable again?
Our service was partially unavailable due to DDoS attack for about 30 minutes.
About one half of users were affected.

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July 09, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
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Btw, would it be realistic to think that these attacks could also exist because people want miners to go offline in order to drastically decrease the difficulty for a week?
I don't think that DDoS can decrease next difficulty at all.
Even in cause of powerful attack most users will just switch to another pool. The total network hashrate is not affected.

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July 09, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
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Btw, would it be realistic to think that these attacks could also exist because people want miners to go offline in order to drastically decrease the difficulty for a week?
I don't think that DDoS can decrease next difficulty at all.
Even in cause of powerful attack most users will just switch to another pool. The total network hashrate is not affected.

On the day of the last difficulty change, all of the pools got hit very hard. The day before our network total hashrate was 14Thash/sec.... When we approached the re-target they started attacking ALL major pools, and effectively dropped the network hashrate to under 9Thash/sec.

The estimated difficulty was to be around 1.59M and we ended up with 1.56M

It is hard to say for sure how much these attacks effected the retarget, but i think they did somewhat.


For a time I couldn't connect to ANY pool. I have accounts here, with btcguild, slush, reddit, etc. They all took a beating the other day.
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July 09, 2011, 05:36:58 PM
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The estimated difficulty was to be around 1.59M and we ended up with 1.56M
It is hard to say for sure how much these attacks effected the retarget, but i think they did somewhat.
That's just ~1.886% change and it may be caused by another factors.
I can estimate that you would have to block all pools and solo miners for more than 6 hours completely to make a 2% change if the hashrate is not growing.

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July 09, 2011, 06:06:12 PM
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Is there a reason the automatic payment hasn't gone out yet?
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July 09, 2011, 08:24:42 PM
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The estimated difficulty was to be around 1.59M and we ended up with 1.56M
It is hard to say for sure how much these attacks effected the retarget, but i think they did somewhat.
That's just ~1.886% change and it may be caused by another factors.
I can estimate that you would have to block all pools and solo miners for more than 6 hours completely to make a 2% change if the hashrate is not growing.


I guess you are right.... if it did effect it at all it couldn't possibly be by much at all.
I am just trying to figure out why it seemed like all of the pools got hit the day before and day of the re-target, it seemed to me like they were really trying to do something.

Anyways great job with the pool man, yours did much better than most others through those nasty attacks.... I myself got targeted by some DDOSings recently, and its not fun... My ISP just about turned off my dedicated server for good because the floods exceeded 20gbps and crippled their network.
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July 09, 2011, 09:18:14 PM
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Weird, I can hit Deepbit.net ok in my browser, but none of my workers can establish a connection Sad

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July 09, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
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I'm unable to continuously mine with ufasoft cpu on linux, using minerd i can mine but at a much slower rate than is normal. It however exposes a few errors that show what the issue seems to be right now (for the last few days) with deepbit. I'll also post in the ufasoft thread to see if the miner can be improved.

[2011-07-09 16:22:55] HTTP request failed: couldn't connect to host
[2011-07-09 16:22:55] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2011-07-09 16:26:34] HTTP request failed: couldn't connect to host
[2011-07-09 16:26:34] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2011-07-09 16:28:38] Long-polling activated for http://pit.deepbit.net:8332/listenChannel

[2011-07-09 16:29:24] HTTP request failed: Recv failure: Connection reset by peer
[2011-07-09 16:29:54] longpoll failed, sleeping for 30s
[2011-07-09 16:29:57] HTTP request failed: Recv failure: Connection reset by peer


I can mine for a little bit with ufasoft and then it goes to 0 when it hits a period of unavailability.

Tycho, is this due to the varying DDoS on the website that is going on, or is there another issue. Prior to this start of the DDoS, my linux clients were the highest producing Mhash/sec and they are essentially reduced in effectiveness to 30%.
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July 09, 2011, 09:36:11 PM
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All seems fine on my end. Thanks Deepbit!
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July 09, 2011, 09:40:42 PM
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I'm having problems connecting too. 5 out of 6 miners are having problems trying to connect. It would connect for a couple minutes. And then the miner would restart itself when it had problems.
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July 09, 2011, 09:54:32 PM
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Tycho can you say something about the downtimes in the last hours? Happens often that I can't connect to the deepbit homepage.

Still DDoS attacks?
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