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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1597393 times)
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August 02, 2011, 09:56:08 PM
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^- what he said

Yep, saw it.  Wondering why the discrepancy?
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August 03, 2011, 02:04:06 AM
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i have a problem, all of my workers are on proportinal, but shows pps pay...
sorry for my english...
Are you talking about "PPS" in the stats table ?
If you just switched from PPS to Proportional, your change will be visible there only after one hour because of the stats delay.

Yes on the table... Let me be more explicit

18 hours ago(aprox, 2am Venezuela time, UTC(+4.5) =6:30am aprox), I change "PPS" to Proportional, but I am getting paid proportionately for about 5 to 6 hours ... I have even interspersed payments, pps, then proportional, then pps, then proportionately.

see part of my table

31.07 19:28:32   0h 01m     52    76514     0.03296129
31.07 19:27:27   0h 21m     1143    1607489     0.03110659
31.07 19:05:45   0h 18m     963    1413690     PPS
31.07 18:46:51   0h 10m     587    768178     0.01085946
31.07 18:36:31   0h 02m     166    203407     PPS
31.07 18:33:40   0h 51m     2707    3851092     0.00327440
31.07 17:41:58   0h 12m     711    957160     PPS
31.07 17:29:01   0h 18m     936    1337793     PPS


excuse my English.
That is the statistics table, it only contains historical values. The relevant table is https://deepbit.net/account.

Hi, I have enjoyed the services of deepbit since February, I know which is the function and works the table (not 100% but enough to know that there was an error) if I say that, is because there is an error, I change PPS to proportional ~ 630UTC, 8 Hours later (230pm UTC) I'm still getting paid PPS, or at least it displays the table.

Even after 12 hours I'm still getting paid PPS. then intercalated forms of payment-PPS -> Pro -> PPS-Pro ...when I never made any change..

then 13 hours later, the payment is normalized...

HuhHuh

an answer to my problem?
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August 03, 2011, 02:07:47 AM
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an answer to my problem?
This issue should be already fixed. Try switching your payment mode again and check for results.

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August 03, 2011, 02:08:49 AM
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No more luck statistic?
It's automatically hidden each time after difficulty adjustment. It will appear soon, after getting enough samples for averaging.

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August 03, 2011, 02:48:00 AM
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And on schedule after a difficulty change...

Stats are back.  But you can sorta figure out if the pool has been lucky or not by watching your rolling 24 hr. payout...

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August 03, 2011, 06:28:59 AM
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what about difficulty figure?
2 different difficulties are used by the pools!!!!!
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August 03, 2011, 06:18:52 PM
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So, this hasn't happened before.

"Got paid" this morning at 10:00am EDT as I normally do. 

Transaction is still showing as 0/unconfirmed over 4 hours later (2:09pm EDT as of this post) on my client.  Block explorer also shows nothing.  I am running the latest BTC client which currently has 12 connections and 139477 blocks.

Help?

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August 03, 2011, 07:02:41 PM
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So, this hasn't happened before.

"Got paid" this morning at 10:00am EDT as I normally do. 

Transaction is still showing as 0/unconfirmed over 4 hours later (2:09pm EDT as of this post) on my client.  Block explorer also shows nothing.  I am running the latest BTC client which currently has 12 connections and 139477 blocks.

Help?

Go here:

http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

Search for the Bitcoin address the payment was sent to.

10 BTC's says it's still an unconfirmed TX...

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August 03, 2011, 07:10:03 PM
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Go here:

http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

Search for the Bitcoin address the payment was sent to.

10 BTC's says it's still an unconfirmed TX...

Cheers,
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It shows me as a "low priority" transaction.  I feel very ... low.  ;-(

EDIT:  is there a way to have Deepbit pay 0.01 BTC transaction fee when auto-payment triggers?  I'm fine paying that especially if it helps alleviate this horrible lag spike in my daily quota / payment.

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August 04, 2011, 03:56:43 AM
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EDIT:  is there a way to have Deepbit pay 0.01 BTC transaction fee when auto-payment triggers?  I'm fine paying that especially if it helps alleviate this horrible lag spike in my daily quota / payment.
You want deepbit to reduce 0.01 BTC from your payment & use it as transaction fee to transfer bitcoins to your address?

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August 04, 2011, 03:59:01 AM
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Or just 0.005, everything is better then zero Smiley

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August 04, 2011, 04:01:46 AM
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You want deepbit to reduce 0.01 BTC from your payment & use it as transaction fee to transfer bitcoins to your address?

Would be nice as an option since it looks like a lot of pool operators aren't processing no-fee transactions anymore.  So being able to set a 0.0005 BTC to 0.01 BTC on the transaction payment from DB would be nice so it doesn't end up being hours, or even days, until your TX is confirmed in a block.

As of this post, I see transactions that are over 16 hours old now in the queue. -- Mine, from DB, is 13 hours old now and the TX for it still hasn't been completed in any new blocks generated.

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August 04, 2011, 04:05:54 AM
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Good idea, lets see what [Tycho] replies.

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August 04, 2011, 05:10:36 AM
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EDIT:  is there a way to have Deepbit pay 0.01 BTC transaction fee when auto-payment triggers?  I'm fine paying that especially if it helps alleviate this horrible lag spike in my daily quota / payment.
You want deepbit to reduce 0.01 BTC from your payment & use it as transaction fee to transfer bitcoins to your address?

Doesn't sound bad. If there was a checkbox for this, I'd use it every time. Could be 0.005 or 0.01, either way the priority transactions would be a very nice feature.

1 pool I mine on (bitcoins.lc) uses a 0.01 fee automatically and their payments always arrive within an hour or so.

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August 04, 2011, 03:34:43 PM
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Yeah, this situation with deepbit seems new.

Thankfully, sometime during the wee hours of the morning, my payment from yesterday got confirmed.  But it took something like 20 hours.

Unfortunately, my daily payment for "today" seems to be doing the same thing as yesterday though (eg., taking much, much, longer than payments have for me in the past from deepbit).

I think something strange is going on over at deepbit wrt. to daily payments.  I don't think they're intentionally withholding.  I think it's some kind of odd bug somewhere in the hash between transactions, blocks, and clients. 

My hunch is that if you get paid and your client isn't up and running (and up-to-date) when the payment occurs, you get cast into the void of payments that take forever.

Either way, if it now takes hours and hours to get payment, then deepbit isn't really a viable option for me anymore.  Too bad.

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August 04, 2011, 04:11:01 PM
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My hunch is that if you get paid and your client isn't up and running (and up-to-date) when the payment occurs, you get cast into the void of payments that take forever.

Nah, when a payment is broadcast (either through sendmany or by a single client), all that matters is that other nodes relay the payment.
The receiving client doesn't even have to be online; That's why offline wallets work.

The only thing which isn't a constant is priority of the payment.
The less tx fee (or none at all), the lower priority it gets in the list of transactions to be verified by miners.

It's safe to say 'everyone' can afford an optional 0.005 fee to get their payment in a reasonable time. I'd pay it every time on deepbit.

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August 04, 2011, 04:15:18 PM
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My hunch is that if you get paid and your client isn't up and running (and up-to-date) when the payment occurs, you get cast into the void of payments that take forever.

Nah, when a payment is broadcast (either through sendmany or by a single client), all that matters is that other nodes relay the payment.
The receiving client doesn't even have to be online; That's why offline wallets work.

The only thing which isn't a constant is priority of the payment.
The less tx fee (or none at all), the lower priority it gets in the list of transactions to be verified by miners.

It's safe to say 'everyone' can afford an optional 0.005 fee to get their payment in a reasonable time. I'd pay it every time on deepbit.

Yup, I see my transaction again on bitcoincharts.  It has a priority of 0:

http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/#04c984623881e35122cc32b5f37d6529e6e11612f8413d5dc1033dd383dba4f8

I hope this doesn't continue.

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August 04, 2011, 11:34:54 PM
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AFAIK Deepbit process it's own payments when it cracks blocks regardless of tx fess, so it shouldn't take any longer than the time it takes for DB to crack a new one for you to get paid.

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August 05, 2011, 12:01:27 AM
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AFAIK Deepbit process it's own payments when it cracks blocks regardless of tx fess, so it shouldn't take any longer than the time it takes for DB to crack a new one for you to get paid.

You would think this is the case, but it isn't.  There was a public patch for processing your own non-fee TX's when you solve a block, but I don't think [Tycho] has it patched in.

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August 05, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
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Thankfully, sometime during the wee hours of the morning, my payment from yesterday got confirmed.  But it took something like 20 hours.

I think something strange is going on over at deepbit wrt. to daily payments.  I don't think they're intentionally withholding.  I think it's some kind of odd bug somewhere in the hash between transactions, blocks, and clients.
It happened a few times at deepbit after the bitcoind restarts.
This time I forgot to reconfigure bitcoind to accept many free TXes after doing some maintenance on my servers.

Now I included those settings in startup configuration script, so I hope it wont happen again.

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