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July 07, 2011, 04:43:04 PM
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They are DDOSsing just deepbit and btcguild because they removed botnet from them servers, account deleted, coins lost

Is there a way to have a pool server where we can have by default all access denied except for registered users, where we ask our workers IP address to be whitelisted? Users without a credible past or violators could be banned
for an arbitrary time.

Should be not too difficult to add to the webform (register a new worker, add IP address) but of course if the admin site is beeing DDOSsd as well, that does not help ;-)

That would make it incredible annoying for Any new members, So annoying that they'd go "fuck it im not gonna use this pool"

And this still wouldnt stop any DDoSes you dont need form of Login to the site to DDoS it, You just need tobeable to see the site/service

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July 07, 2011, 04:53:49 PM
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My miners are connected again!
it's been 10mins of un interrupted mining
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July 07, 2011, 04:59:21 PM
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They are DDOSsing just deepbit and btcguild because they removed botnet from them servers, account deleted, coins lost

Is there a way to have a pool server where we can have by default all access denied except for registered users, where we ask our workers IP address to be whitelisted? Users without a credible past or violators could be banned
for an arbitrary time.

Should be not too difficult to add to the webform (register a new worker, add IP address) but of course if the admin site is beeing DDOSsd as well, that does not help ;-)
I really like this idea. Autoban for all IP'S who aren't white listed.

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July 07, 2011, 05:01:51 PM
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They are DDOSsing just deepbit and btcguild because they removed botnet from them servers, account deleted, coins lost

Is there a way to have a pool server where we can have by default all access denied except for registered users, where we ask our workers IP address to be whitelisted? Users without a credible past or violators could be banned
for an arbitrary time.

Should be not too difficult to add to the webform (register a new worker, add IP address) but of course if the admin site is beeing DDOSsd as well, that does not help ;-)

That would make it incredible annoying for Any new members, So annoying that they'd go "fuck it im not gonna use this pool"

And this still wouldnt stop any DDoSes you dont need form of Login to the site to DDoS it, You just need tobeable to see the site/service
We are in crisis mode right now. It would be a good way to stop the DDOS for now, while they come up with a better solution. These ddos attacks are so disgusting, and immature. When the fuck are these fake "hackers" going to grow the fuck up. 90% of us could do the SAME THING YOU'RE DOING, but it's pathetic, and a true waist of time & knowledge. Fucking kids need to do something a bit more productive with their miniscule lives.

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July 07, 2011, 05:02:29 PM
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slush do so whitelisting

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July 07, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
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We are in crisis mode right now. It would be a good way to stop the DDOS for now, while they come up with a better solution. These ddos attacks are so disgusting, and immature. When the fuck are these fake "hackers" going to grow the fuck up. 90% of us could do the SAME THING YOU'RE DOING, but it's pathetic, and a true waist of time & knowledge. Fucking kids need to do something a bit more productive with their miniscule lives.

You are giving crises a bad name. Just switch over to a backup pool until db comes back online. Greece is a crisis. This is an inconvenience.

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July 07, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
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This is getting ridiculous, we pay the 3% because of ease to use and stability. Running home every day to restart miner is not it.

Use a miner -- such as recent poclbm -- that automatically falls back to another pool.

Why run home at all, for a simple miner hiccup such as temporary pool downtime?


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July 07, 2011, 05:07:24 PM
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why i still dont have a connection with pool?

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July 07, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
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If the DDoS trafic is so big the logs will not show all the trafic generated by nodes.
Also Proxy servers can be used in DDoS which is extremely hard to mitigate DDoS in this case.
The first piece on the network will be a router if the trafic generated by the botnet is that big the router can't redirect the packets, and in this case not even blacklist would be useful.
Tycho you should consider changing you host service. with the fess that you pay for the service I think you can spend some money on the service.
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July 07, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
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Its real shame ur pool has so much down time lately, gona switch for now.

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July 07, 2011, 05:17:17 PM
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We are in crisis mode right now. It would be a good way to stop the DDOS for now, while they come up with a better solution. These ddos attacks are so disgusting, and immature. When the fuck are these fake "hackers" going to grow the fuck up. 90% of us could do the SAME THING YOU'RE DOING, but it's pathetic, and a true waist of time & knowledge. Fucking kids need to do something a bit more productive with their miniscule lives.

You are giving crises a bad name. Just switch over to a backup pool until db comes back online. Greece is a crisis. This is an inconvenience.
Crisis is defined in the eye of the be-holder. Some people can afford to loose time more than others. Loosing 12 hours of mining could mean loosing 1 bitcoin, or loosing 100 depending on who you are.

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July 07, 2011, 05:29:27 PM
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Crisis is defined in the eye of the be-holder. Some people can afford to loose time more than others. Loosing 12 hours of mining could mean loosing 1 bitcoin, or loosing 100 depending on who you are.
More like losing .1 for most people hahah  I restarted my miners, but they still show as inactive on my accounts page. Sad

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July 07, 2011, 05:33:24 PM
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We are in crisis mode right now. It would be a good way to stop the DDOS for now, while they come up with a better solution. These ddos attacks are so disgusting, and immature. When the fuck are these fake "hackers" going to grow the fuck up. 90% of us could do the SAME THING YOU'RE DOING, but it's pathetic, and a true waist of time & knowledge. Fucking kids need to do something a bit more productive with their miniscule lives.

I bet there's more than 10% of "us" who couldn't do the same thing (if they don't pay someone else to do it). Heck, at least 10% are unable to set up backup pools (including you, losing 12 hours of mining work?).

Conducting a DDOS requires access to a big botnet. And no, whitelists won't help if it's big enough (BTC Guild banned *every* IP, and they are still unable to offer their services because the connection is at the limit).

The guys are criminals - probably not "script kiddies". They don't get what they want (having the botnet mine at pools), now they do this for punishing the pools. I hope it stops soon.

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July 07, 2011, 05:36:08 PM
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Son of a BITCH
Miners all down

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July 07, 2011, 06:01:23 PM
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This is getting ridiculous, we pay the 3% because of ease to use and stability. Running home every day to restart miner is not it.

Use a miner -- such as recent poclbm -- that automatically falls back to another pool.

Why run home at all, for a simple miner hiccup such as temporary pool downtime?


i cant remote anything at work.  does guiminer have this fallback feature? i dont remember seeing it.  will probably switch to slush if this happens again. I like deepbit because of the easy payout and it let me see the average rate from the website with 1 click. 

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July 07, 2011, 06:20:27 PM
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Changing to http://www.prq.se/?intl=1 PRQ would be magnificent. The most resilient hosting that I know. (Responsible for hosting the pirate bay).

Well, I really don't think TPB should be considered "the standart" when it comes to availability... it's sometimes offline for 12 hours... the only reliable thing about TBP is, that it will always come back, even after being off for hours.. Wink
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Changing to http://www.prq.se/?intl=1 PRQ would be magnificent. The most resilient hosting that I know. (Responsible for hosting the pirate bay).

Well, I really don't think TPB should be considered "the standart" when it comes to availability... it's sometimes offline for 12 hours... the only reliable thing about TBP is, that it will always come back, even after being off for hours.. Wink


Since in bitcoins pools what are trying to shutdown the pools are kids, in the piratebay it's nations.
It's better not to compare the situation of both.
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July 07, 2011, 06:32:15 PM
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I really dont think nations are DDoSing TPB, maybe some rouge parts of the media industry...
And I think its not kids DDoSing pools either, I can hardly imagine some script kiddies are in control of botnets big enough to do that... I think its a couple of guys that really know what they're doing (of course DDOS is bitchy and childish, but using a botnet to do mining is hardly something you can do by after reading "Hackers Black Book"...)
I think, there is a lot of money involved in this and of course a lot of rage after beeing banned...
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July 07, 2011, 06:51:53 PM
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I used prq.se a few years ago but stopped because I felt their customer service was less than responsive. Only one guy seemed to be manning help desk (Gottfried) and he seemed to be always overworked. Their hosting was bulletproof but making changes seemed to take a long time. Are they better now? I know they moved data centers.
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The guys are criminals - probably not "script kiddies". They don't get what they want (having the botnet mine at pools), now they do this for punishing the pools. I hope it stops soon.

Your'e correct, these guys are not skiddies.  I only know, because I know who's actually behind all of this.  I have no take in it, just know from being connected via whomever.. however, its more than just a botnet and its not punishment.  They have their reasons behind it.  The attack against deepbit is not supposed to stop any time soon.  Its just how they're currently operating.

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Conducting a DDOS requires access to a big botnet. And no, whitelists won't help if it's big enough (BTC Guild banned *every* IP, and they are still unable to offer their services because the connection is at the limit).

Additionally, BTC Guild did not black list every IP address.  This I know because I know Eleuthria at a more personal level.  There have been major changes to his infrastructure over the last few days and more to come in the coming week, however it takes more than just a large enough pipe to handle the attacks.

You need access to an upstream provider who is capable of withstanding the attack as well as mitigating through means of nulling the route upstream, not just the IP of the pools server, that doesn't do anything for the miners or the pool operators, other than shutting them down.

BTCGuild is moving to a larger connection, much larger connection.  This I know because I am the one plugging it in Wink
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