[DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too

[kiwiasian]

Hahahaha, just did an instant payout right now and I got it already

Yes, but are there any confirmations?

Yes.

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[[Tycho]]

The problem with unconfirmed transactions is solved.
Usually many of free transactions in the network are confirmed by our pool, but this time they were not included because of accidental settings change during restart.

Don't any of the other large pools confirm them or is just because you put them in deepbit's queue for confirmation, so no other pool does it?  I've always been curious how a particular block get's its transactions to sign [say I send somebody 1 BTC, how is it determine where a confirmation takes place?].

All our payouts are without fee. Standart bitcoin server will include only up to 4 Kb of free TXes per block. Some pool(s) don't include free transactions at all. That's why they are confirmed so slowly when missed by our pool.

Transaction gets the first confirmation when someone includes it in the block.

[AngelusWebDesign]

13.06.2011 09:09   1Fk4DVGCGoXAiYCUMU7z...   1.02

I did an Instant Payout at 10:09 Central time -- STILL waiting for a confirmation! What's going on?

Here's the scary part -- after almost TWELVE HOURS without a confirmation, this is what BlockExplorer thinks of the transaction:

No such transaction

Is my 1.02 BTC just gone? 

I think many people would switch pools and/or stop mining if losing a whole BTC was that easy.

[[Tycho]]

Im a bit confused, Tycho can you please explain to me how these 2 payouts differ so much ?
14.06 00:27:58   0h 27m    1806    1227061     0.00960466
14.06 00:00:00   0h 29m    1910    1264240     0.07327327
Both of them were on prop and quite similar timeframes,sharesizes and total shares however the payout is exponentially less on the more recent one?

Tycho, can you please respond to this query.

Are you sure that it wasn't PPS ?
PM me your login and i'll check it. Looks strange and the only explanation I can imagine is the PPS.

[jasonk]

13.06.2011 09:09   1Fk4DVGCGoXAiYCUMU7z...   1.02

I did an Instant Payout at 10:09 Central time -- STILL waiting for a confirmation! What's going on?

Here's the scary part -- after almost TWELVE HOURS without a confirmation, this is what BlockExplorer thinks of the transaction:

No such transaction

Is my 1.02 BTC just gone? 

I think many people would switch pools and/or stop mining if losing a whole BTC was that easy.

Same.  I did a payout of 1.01 @ 10AM Central.  Zero confirmations after like 12 hours.  Never had it take more than 2hrs before!

[[Tycho]]

So i took a 3 hr break form mining to see if things would settle down by then. Started my miners back up and still getting connection problems.. Is deepbit getting DDoS'd again along with other pools and websites or is something else going on? What is even the point of DDoS anyways? Is it used to drive down the next difficulty increase? Or just someone or group who hats bitcoins? Does the government ever do shady things like that? Is there any way to trace the attack back to the originator?
Tycho you have any word on when things might be back to normal?

As I said already, today it wasn't a DDoS, we have some problems caused by our software.
Also I said that I'll make some official statement when things will be stable again. But as you can see, I didn't yet.

Currently some interruptions do happen occasionally, that's why I'm recommending poclbm/poclbm-gui over Phoenix. Sadly this kind of problem can't be fixed fast, but we are working on the solution.
I'll post updates when more information will be available and when pool will be stable.

[[Tycho]]

If its an error , how many times before could it have happened since I dont check every single payout just noticed this and not to impressed with the outcome.

Values in stats table and your balance are calculated separately.
Reward column in stats table is just  your_prop_shares/total_shares*48.5
In this example: 1910 /  1264240 * 48.5 = 0.07327327089793077263810668860343
If lower value is shown then it can only mean that some of your shares weren't Prop.

[fireside]

So i took a 3 hr break form mining to see if things would settle down by then. Started my miners back up and still getting connection problems.. Is deepbit getting DDoS'd again along with other pools and websites or is something else going on? What is even the point of DDoS anyways? Is it used to drive down the next difficulty increase? Or just someone or group who hats bitcoins? Does the government ever do shady things like that? Is there any way to trace the attack back to the originator?
Tycho you have any word on when things might be back to normal?

As I said already, today it wasn't a DDoS, we have some problems caused by our software.
Also I said that I'll make some official statement when things will be stable again. But as you can see, I didn't yet.

Currently some interruptions do happen occasionally, that's why I'm recommending poclbm/poclbm-gui over Phoenix. Sadly this kind of problem can't be fixed fast, but we are working on the solution.
I'll post updates when more information will be available and when pool will be stable.

hmm well that is good news i guess. I did see a post form you earlier this morning saying it wasnt a DDoS but since then everyone and there mother have been saying all day that many sites including deepbit are getting DDoS'd and even some very knowledgeable long time members were saying it. Also I am using pclbm-gui and been connected about 1/4 of the time today which is why i am asking since i have lost about .35 BTC already

but i do appreciate you taking the time to respond and it is good to know you are all over it as usual! It is what keeps me at deep.

[[Tycho]]

No such transaction

Is my 1.02 BTC just gone?

Already answered on the previous page:
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg215804#msg215804

[teflone]

13.06.2011 09:09   1Fk4DVGCGoXAiYCUMU7z...   1.02

I did an Instant Payout at 10:09 Central time -- STILL waiting for a confirmation! What's going on?

Here's the scary part -- after almost TWELVE HOURS without a confirmation, this is what BlockExplorer thinks of the transaction:

No such transaction

Is my 1.02 BTC just gone? 

I think many people would switch pools and/or stop mining if losing a whole BTC was that easy.

Same.  I did a payout of 1.01 @ 10AM Central.  Zero confirmations after like 12 hours.  Never had it take more than 2hrs before!

+1, Me too

[Veldy]

deepbit is up whole time and mining away but I would love to get explaination for that payout or i would prob also jump ship.

If its an error , how many times before could it have happened since I dont check every single payout just noticed this and not to impressed with the outcome.

Relax, you will get paid.  Tycho said what happened and thus why you are not getting confirmations.  A long as your client was up, it should at least show with zero confirmations until deepbit confirms it in one of the blocks it solves.  I suspect the queue is rather deep at the moment.  Name a pool that hasn't had problems.  Name a pool with a larger full uptime percentage.  Name a more stable pool over any significant period of time.  Everybody has been paid for all work mined on that pool (except, I suppose some user error like the incorrect bitcoin address or something).

[hieu5189]

Can u check my request, the last 2 request haven't be done yet.
Thanks!
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[[Tycho]]

Can u check my request, the last 2 request haven't be done yet.
Thanks!
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If you see it in the payments table, you will get paid, the transaction is on the way.
The queue was up to ~1300 transactions long during the night, but all those payments were ALREADY sent.
It's just that free TXes take long time to be confirmed.
Everyone can check their transactions here:
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

[hieu5189]

Can u check my request, the last 2 request haven't be done yet.
Thanks!
(Jun 13 and 14's lines)

If you see it in the payments table, you will get paid, the transaction is on the way.
The queue was up to ~1300 transactions long during the night, but all those payments were ALREADY sent.
It's just that free TXes take long time to be confirmed.
Everyone can check their transactions here:
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

thank u, i'm watching

[kiwiasian]

So is the pool back up and running now?

[[Tycho]]

So is the pool back up and running now?

The pool was running all the days. The problem is that it's not yet guaranted to be stable. Some short connection problems are still possible because our software is not yet completely fixed.

[Veldy]

So i took a 3 hr break form mining to see if things would settle down by then. Started my miners back up and still getting connection problems.. Is deepbit getting DDoS'd again along with other pools and websites or is something else going on? What is even the point of DDoS anyways? Is it used to drive down the next difficulty increase? Or just someone or group who hats bitcoins? Does the government ever do shady things like that? Is there any way to trace the attack back to the originator?

Tycho you have any word on when things might be back to normal?

You just asked 7 question in a row.

Personally, I think that they may be attacking routers, but I am simply speculating since I have done no analysis and seen no other problems with accessing any other sites on the Internet (neither has my wife and I at least visit international sites relatively frequently (a foreign media view of issues which is useful for various reasons).  Maybe they are doing something with just port 8332. I think pools and miners need to work on a method to dynamically assign and often reassign the port for any particular miner .... brainstorming.

[Clipse]

Thanks Tycho, issue resolved

[_s3v3n_]

Hello Folks,

Does someone know who to contact regarding a payment that didn't went thru? The last transaction that I initiated (Time stamp 13.06.2011 15:11) didn't went to my wallet account.

Is there a problem with deepbit?

Thanks in advance.

[kiwiasian]

So is the pool back up and running now?

The pool was running all the days. The problem is that it's not yet guaranted to be stable. Some short connection problems are still possible because our software is not yet completely fixed.

Well that's what I mean--when will the pool be running at a point where I'm not getting connection problems left and right?