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Author Topic: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer  (Read 1232521 times)
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July 23, 2014, 01:33:15 PM
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Wafflepool has finished making Exe coin it's bitch. It's back to VTC Sad

We seriously need some more buy support. I'm in about as much as I can go. Seeing these prices is making me want more but cooler heads must prevail.

Just bought around 4000 verts and propably going up till 9000 slowly Tongue

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July 23, 2014, 01:45:21 PM
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Wafflepool has finished making Exe coin it's bitch. It's back to VTC Sad

We seriously need some more buy support. I'm in about as much as I can go. Seeing these prices is making me want more but cooler heads must prevail.

Using a small rig (2x r7 260x) to mine on greenpool, not much to help but right now it's the best i can do :/
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July 23, 2014, 01:53:44 PM
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Wafflepool has finished making Exe coin it's bitch. It's back to VTC Sad

We seriously need some more buy support. I'm in about as much as I can go. Seeing these prices is making me want more but cooler heads must prevail.

Just bought around 4000 verts and propably going up till 9000 slowly Tongue

I've been doing that for the last month or so. I now have 14k coins and counting but burnt through most of my disposable income. Also got married last month so my money isn't really my money anymore Sad

My other half is a much more conservative investor lol.
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July 23, 2014, 01:55:26 PM
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Wafflepool has finished making Exe coin it's bitch. It's back to VTC Sad

We seriously need some more buy support. I'm in about as much as I can go. Seeing these prices is making me want more but cooler heads must prevail.

Just bought around 4000 verts and propably going up till 9000 slowly Tongue

I also stacked few VTC because price is still cheap.
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July 23, 2014, 02:21:50 PM
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Wafflepool has finished making Exe coin it's bitch. It's back to VTC Sad

We seriously need some more buy support. I'm in about as much as I can go. Seeing these prices is making me want more but cooler heads must prevail.

Just bought around 4000 verts and propably going up till 9000 slowly Tongue

I also stacked few VTC because price is still cheap.
Now is the time to do it, i don't see it dropping even more.

Im holding more than 4700 VTC!
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July 23, 2014, 02:33:09 PM
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Wafflepool has finished making Exe coin it's bitch. It's back to VTC Sad

We seriously need some more buy support. I'm in about as much as I can go. Seeing these prices is making me want more but cooler heads must prevail.

Just bought around 4000 verts and propably going up till 9000 slowly Tongue

I also stacked few VTC because price is still cheap.
Now is the time to do it, i don't see it dropping even more.

yup , I don't have much but still price is good so bought few.
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July 23, 2014, 04:05:29 PM
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Im buying since it is at 0.0014. Just bought 1k more.
Im sad only because I'm not rich so I could buy them all Cheesy (joking)

Btw, I officially stopped using craptsy Tongue

Got my account back! It was hacked. Sorry about it :|
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July 23, 2014, 04:39:46 PM
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Im buying since it is at 0.0014. Just bought 1k more.
Im sad only because I'm not rich so I could buy them all Cheesy (joking)

Btw, I officially stopped using craptsy Tongue

crazy eh? that 1000 cost you around 200 usd. a few months ago I was deciding whether or not to buy another 1000 and it would have cost me 3200 usd.
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July 23, 2014, 05:02:08 PM
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Im buying since it is at 0.0014. Just bought 1k more.
Im sad only because I'm not rich so I could buy them all Cheesy (joking)

Btw, I officially stopped using craptsy Tongue

crazy eh? that 1000 cost you around 200 usd. a few months ago I was deciding whether or not to buy another 1000 and it would have cost me 3200 usd.

Absolutely! I mean, I cant predict the future, but I truly believe in VTC! Maybe my 200usd investment will be turned on some thousand worth in a near future. Smiley

Edit: Or maybe I lose them. However, that's an amount that I can afford to lose ( but I wont ^^)

Got my account back! It was hacked. Sorry about it :|
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July 23, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
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P.S. Any opinions are welcome (because I still don't see any drawbacks, except hard fork )

So are you saying growth of coins (ie bigger subsidy) or less coins (smaller subsidy)?

The first one wouldn't make sense-  and the second one has already been heavily discussed.

The network hashrate currently does not affect the number of coins mined  in a day. You are aware of this?

I think he is trying to propose a model for the coin reward to be based on hash rate, and that if the hash rate were large enough the reward could be above 28k/day, but if the hash rate is small, it could go below 28k/day. It would help to stabilize the price considerably. I kind of like the idea.

I think if something like this were put in we would need to reconsider the 84mil hard cap because it could be reached much more quickly if the network grew a lot.

Also if the reward were reduced too much for our current low network rate it could look like market manipulation to outsiders, so I think a delicate hand would be required.

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July 23, 2014, 10:16:59 PM
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Wafflepool has finished making Exe coin it's bitch. It's back to VTC Sad

We seriously need some more buy support. I'm in about as much as I can go. Seeing these prices is making me want more but cooler heads must prevail.

Just bought around 4000 verts and propably going up till 9000 slowly Tongue

I also stacked few VTC because price is still cheap.
Now is the time to do it, i don't see it dropping even more.

Im holding more than 4700 VTC!
I only have around 200 because i invested when they were high and currently low on funds, i do believe in this coin and that it can actually grow into a decent price, highly traded, respected coin.

470000+  Tongue
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July 23, 2014, 11:59:56 PM
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July 24, 2014, 02:32:41 AM
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P.S. Any opinions are welcome (because I still don't see any drawbacks, except hard fork )

So are you saying growth of coins (ie bigger subsidy) or less coins (smaller subsidy)?

The first one wouldn't make sense-  and the second one has already been heavily discussed.

The network hashrate currently does not affect the number of coins mined  in a day. You are aware of this?

I think he is trying to propose a model for the coin reward to be based on hash rate, and that if the hash rate were large enough the reward could be above 28k/day, but if the hash rate is small, it could go below 28k/day. It would help to stabilize the price considerably. I kind of like the idea.

I think if something like this were put in we would need to reconsider the 84mil hard cap because it could be reached much more quickly if the network grew a lot.

Also if the reward were reduced too much for our current low network rate it could look like market manipulation to outsiders, so I think a delicate hand would be required.




yes, right

if all GPU miners over the world would start mine only Vertcoin - it would be only 40k /day, not more I suppose,

so 5 long years with incredible strong network 512GH/s (comparable only to bitcoin network strength), so it means - five long years with incredible level of adoption (every GPU miner mines Vertcoin only)

Fine, that you like it.

The key thing of my idea is: investing some money from price growth, when the network hashrate grows - into the network expansion. Some positive oriented feedback (science term). Negative oriented feedback always stabilise some parameter, positive oriented feedback always help to push parameter to the limit. With our setup we would help to push network hashrate to the limit.

delicate hand is necessary, of course you are right Smiley
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July 24, 2014, 04:14:59 AM
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What a hell is going on with VTC price?
I think this coin can die if don't change algo to less expensive.
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July 24, 2014, 04:19:53 AM
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What a hell is going on with VTC price?
I think this coin can die if don't change algo to less expensive.

Every coin need pump to live or accumulation, there is no natural demand on coins. There is no such thing "not pump & dump coin".
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July 24, 2014, 04:36:25 AM
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But we see that vertcoin is not interesting to big investors. All likes to play with shitcoins that are creating every new day.
Right now we see that every shitcoin's developer makes it "very secure, anonymous" and bla bla bla and we see that peoples likes it despite that shitcoins is nothing, just a new little piece of shit in ocean of new created altcoins =)
I'm confused. Problem is not in sellers, problem is in buyers. They are just absent at this moment. Why? What do they want?
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July 24, 2014, 04:49:56 AM
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But we see that vertcoin is not interesting to big investors. All likes to play with shitcoins that are creating every new day.
Right now we see that every shitcoin's developer makes it "very secure, anonymous" and bla bla bla and we see that peoples likes it despite that shitcoins is nothing, just a new little piece of shit in ocean of new created altcoins =)
I'm confused. Problem is not in sellers, problem is in buyers. They are just absent at this moment. Why? What do they want?

At the macro level, it feels that the entire Altcoin market has been drying up the last few months. There is not much liquidity going in. Even those coins that are rising are doing so without any special amount of volume. Even if Vert were to rise back to $2 dollar levels, it wouldnt mean much because its not as though someone who is holding 5k would be able to liquidate them easily. Buy support has gone down overall. The industry seems to have lost steam. My belief is that it will stay stagnant until the next wave of interest rushes into BTC and new investors enter the market.
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July 24, 2014, 06:15:20 AM
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 Grin Maybe it's time to push it to btc38.
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July 24, 2014, 06:16:36 AM
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But we see that vertcoin is not interesting to big investors. All likes to play with shitcoins that are creating every new day.
Right now we see that every shitcoin's developer makes it "very secure, anonymous" and bla bla bla and we see that peoples likes it despite that shitcoins is nothing, just a new little piece of shit in ocean of new created altcoins =)
I'm confused. Problem is not in sellers, problem is in buyers. They are just absent at this moment. Why? What do they want?

Big investors already tried to pump the price, but after tried it at least 2 times, they gave up.
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July 24, 2014, 07:12:18 AM
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poloniex made a separate market for XMR. as I said before, we need a separate VTC market for buy support. Smiley
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