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August 19, 2020, 08:41:24 AM

so why exactly is bitcoin is the shittiest crypto there is, Midas111 ? are you going back to fiat ?


slow speed, high fees, multiple major economic disasters. There is no room for crappy shit, crashes and junk. Good luck to dash folks, in its current economic state it is untouchable. You had a chance to be great dash. nothing like having a crash every single day to wipe you off the top of the list. idiots

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August 19, 2020, 08:42:32 AM

so why exactly is bitcoin is the shittiest crypto there is, Midas111 ? are you going back to fiat ?


slow speed, high fees, multiple major economic disasters. War has room for losers. There is no room for crappy shit and junk. Good luck to dash folks, in its current economic state it is untouchable.
You had a chance to be great dash. nothing like having a crash every single day to wipe you off the top of the list. idiots

Good luck to you too, something tells me you going to need it.
Anyone else crashing down emotionally and wanting to share that with us on this public forum ?

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August 19, 2020, 08:46:37 AM

so why exactly is bitcoin is the shittiest crypto there is, Midas111 ? are you going back to fiat ?


slow speed, high fees, multiple major economic disasters. War has room for losers. There is no room for crappy shit and junk. Good luck to dash folks, in its current economic state it is untouchable

Good luck to you too, something tells me you going to need it.

Bubba, you need luck too. I need all the luck I can get. Dash failed out. oh well next

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August 19, 2020, 09:20:29 AM
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Roger Ver Tells Disgruntled Bitcoin Cash Faction to Buy Dash
https://cryptobriefing.com/roger-ver-tells-bitcoin-cash-faction-buy-dash/

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There is already a peer to peer electronic cash cash coin with IFP. It’s called DASH. I suggest IFP supporters sell their BCH for DASH,
and start working on that chain, said Roger Ver.

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His comments concern Bitcoin Cash’s Infrastructure Funding Plan (IFP), a hotly-debated addition that may arrive in November.

To any disgruntled Bitcoin Cash investor out there : Dash is open to anyone.
Advantages of using Dash over Bitcoin Cash :

* Dash transactions are settled (sent, receive, spendable) on the Dash network in a few seconds
* Dash transactions are protected against double spending
* Dash has optional privacy on its transactions
* Dash network itself is protected against 51% attacks
* Dash has a decentralized governance and budget system
* Dash will have new use cases (Dapps, Data-type Smart Contracts and much more) and be way more user friendly (Blockchain Usernames), when Dash Platform hits mainnet next year
* Dash can upscale on-chain from Dash current blocksize of 2MB to at least a blocksize of 8MB very quickly and without any problems, through Dash governance system

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August 19, 2020, 09:38:44 AM

Yes, I vent my anger on an emotional outburst too. Qwizzie got me muted from here twice now I'm able to speak again. It's soooooooo awesome watching Dash stay in it's place right where it needs to be. Hahahahaha. Naw just kidding. But seriously I think one of the main problems is that too many people focus on making fast money and looking at only the short term. Dash's fundamentals are the best since ever before. It may never return to the #3 spot but obviously it's more useful now then during the ATH, the usage (and volume differential from 2017-2020 show it). Regardless of how good they can provide a service they must earn people trust again and I don't think arguing or constantly bashing XMR and Bitcoin helps.
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Qwizzie got me muted from here twice now I'm able to speak again.

This is a not-moderated sub forum of Bitcointalk. The only people that can 'mute you' are the Bitcointalk forum moderators, for violating one of their overall forum rules.
This has nothing to do with me. I never had any moderator position anywhere, nor would i ever want one. Also i don't have a habit of reporting users to moderators, i rather
just click the ignore button.

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But seriously I think one of the main problems is that too many people focus on making fast money and looking at only the short term. Dash's fundamentals are the best
since ever before. It may never return to the #3 spot but obviously it's more useful now then during the ATH, the usage (and volume differential from 2017-2020 show it).
Regardless of how good they can provide a service they must earn people trust again and I don't think arguing or constantly bashing XMR and Bitcoin helps.

I agree. Dash needs to focus on getting Dash Platform on Testnet and then on Mainnet, so Dash can develop more use cases and earn back some of that trust we lost.
We need to focus less on competing crypto projects and focus more on developing our Dash eco system and creating Dash Dapps.
Of course keeping an eye on competing crypto projects and see what they are doing, can be smart too. It could give Dash developers new ideas for Dash.

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Dash needs to focus on getting Dash Platform on Testnet...

...and on establishing a protocol that delivers margin parity between masternodes & miners so that the masternode network can grow without becoming an increasing deadweight holding the marketcap down.

Always remember certain hard facts:

1. Masternode revenues are revenues

2. You can't have a revenue without a cost. It's double entry bookkeeping.

3. It's incumbent upon Dash investors to do the due diligence to determine what the "cost side" of their revenue equation is. Where is it, how much is it and who bears it (Clue: It is NOT the collateral cost)

4. Masternode R.O.I. is expressed in the wrong units on Dash websites. The "true" ROI should not be expressed as (reward/collateral) but (reward/collateral)+(capital gain or loss)

5. Following from point 3. it turns out that the "cost side" manifests itself in this extra term for ROI: i.e. excess (uncompetitive) masternode margins are paid for by a capital loss

That is why - as the masternode network grows - it becomes increasingly difficult to raise the marketcap. Setting MN margins at approximate parity to mining margins would solve this and remove the glass ceiling from growth. MN margins would also grow (by the real equation above, not the fake one denominated in Dash)
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August 19, 2020, 03:46:47 PM

Hmm... I've seen this many times before.

Elation in a bear market as an asset approaches or is at a death cross, the price pumps...
Panic in a bull market as an asset approaches or is at a golden cross, the price dumps...

Then not too long after the rebound occurs and the asset continues on the market trend.

So, maybe stop panicking?

1) Crypto is in a bull market (because BTC is)
2) DASH is approaching a golden cross against BTC (50 day MA crossing above 100 day MA)
3) The price plummets below both 100 and 50 day MA
4) Panic ensues
5) DASH rebounds strongly, possibly as high as the 200 day MA (0.009 or so)? Maybe, let's see...
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August 19, 2020, 04:06:31 PM

Hmm... I've seen this many times before.

Elation in a bear market as an asset approaches or is at a death cross, the price pumps...
Panic in a bull market as an asset approaches or is at a golden cross, the price dumps...

Then not too long after the rebound occurs and the asset continues on the market trend.

So, maybe stop panicking?

1) Crypto is in a bull market (because BTC is)
2) DASH is approaching a golden cross against BTC (50 day MA crossing above 100 day MA)
3) The price plummets below both 100 and 50 day MA
4) Panic ensues
5) DASH rebounds strongly, possibly as high as the 200 day MA (0.009 or so)? Maybe, let's see...

maybe dash should be marketed as a gambling toy and not a currency. Crypto got its real start as an answer to the international bankers crashing out economies. here for all to see dash has a crash at least once every 24 hours.  Failed

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maybe dash should be marketed as a gambling toy and not a currency. Crypto got its real start as an answer to the international bankers crashing out economies. here for all to see dash has a crash at least once every 24 hours.  Failed

The only thing that failed is your patience.
Also you are sounding a bit trollish.

Should you not be cashing out of Dash by now and enjoy your life crypto-free ?
If not in fiat and not in Dash, then what altcoin will you pick ? They are pretty much all in the red today, thanks to Bitcoin.
Chances are that will remain for some time : more Bitcoin volatility leads to more Altcoins volatility.

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August 19, 2020, 04:48:07 PM

It would be nice if people were actually making valid points or valid claims with evidence supporting it.
Instead of throwing around a bunch of personal opinions and displaying their subjective view on things.

One more thing.Binance couldnt establish 400 new masternodes,because whole sum of DASH on it is about 8000 coins,enough for only 8 nodes.

Still waiting on the evidence to support the claim that Binance whole sum of Dash is about 8000 coins.


Look at DASH markets at Binance and you will see that whole sum of coins is about 8000-10000 coins.I didnt see any change on it since Binance offered locked savings for DASH.There is not at one single evidence that Binance savings attracked enough DASH to establish 400 masternodes. Not even close.

This "jump" in the masternodes coincidence with the DASH jump price in USD from 60 to 100 in July and August due to BTC rise.Most likely some bigger masternode operator,who has no access to ultracheap chinese electricity ,activated masternodes again when he went into profit zone through combining mining and running masternodes.At the same time DASH hashrate jumped from average 6 to 7 PHash.

I said before and I will said again - no ordinary miner will mine coin which is for so many months very deep in to unprofitable zone.DASH is for months only profitable if you are combining mining and running masternodes. There is no miner who will put significant money into DASH masternodes in the time of bear market. They cant afford it. But big whales with a lot of money can afford it.Because of such huge mastenodes reward they can push out regular miners and take control of market,masternodes and mining operations - full control of coin which put them in such nice position to accumulate a lot of very cheap coins(which precedes every bull run) and make another  pump/dump in the time they want. Something similar happens with other coins,but because there are no such hefty masternodes reward,whales are much more careful to maintain network running safely with some profit for regular miners.

 
  
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It would be nice if people were actually making valid points or valid claims with evidence supporting it.
Instead of throwing around a bunch of personal opinions and displaying their subjective view on things.

One more thing.Binance couldnt establish 400 new masternodes,because whole sum of DASH on it is about 8000 coins,enough for only 8 nodes.

Still waiting on the evidence to support the claim that Binance whole sum of Dash is about 8000 coins.


Look at DASH markets at Binance and you will see that whole sum of coins is about 8000-10000 coins.I didnt see any change on it since Binance offered locked savings for DASH.There is not at one single evidence that Binance savings attracked enough DASH to establish 400 masternodes. Not even close.

These are all the Dash markets on Binance, please tell me where you only see 8,000-10,000 Dash ?
First pair is 8,57M USDT, which is about 94,000 Dash. Second pair is $85,479 BUSD, which is about 939 Dash.
94,000 Dash + 939 Dash + 1012 Dash + 316 Dash + 256 Dash = 96,523 Dash.


Source : Binance

Also total number of Dash on Binance can not be calculated by simply looking at Dash daily traded volume on Binance.
Exchanges will have a far larger supply of Dash stored in cold storage. You will need to know Binance cold wallet Dash addresses to correctly
calculate the total number of Dash stored on Binance. I don't think that information is publicly out there.
Not to mention that locked savings Dash amounts get removed from users spot accounts and moved to who knows where.


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August 19, 2020, 04:53:33 PM

maybe dash should be marketed as a gambling toy and not a currency. Crypto got its real start as an answer to the international bankers crashing out economies. here for all to see dash has a crash at least once every 24 hours.  Failed

The only thing that failed is your patience.
Also you are sounding a bit trollish.

Should you not be cashing out of Dash by now and enjoy your life crypto-free ?
If not in fiat and not in Dash, then what altcoin will you pick ? They are pretty much all in the red today, thanks to Bitcoin.
Chances are that will remain for some time : more Bitcoin volatility leads to more Altcoins volatility.

bitcoin is dead, you may not know that yet. dash is down 90% from its highs, I had fundamental calculation showing dash would outperform, but the facts are as stands. I dont need to add anymore commentary time or capital to this project, the numbers are clear for all to see

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August 19, 2020, 07:55:01 PM

maybe dash should be marketed as a gambling toy and not a currency. Crypto got its real start as an answer to the international bankers crashing out economies. here for all to see dash has a crash at least once every 24 hours.  Failed

The only thing that failed is your patience.
Also you are sounding a bit trollish.

Should you not be cashing out of Dash by now and enjoy your life crypto-free ?
If not in fiat and not in Dash, then what altcoin will you pick ? They are pretty much all in the red today, thanks to Bitcoin.
Chances are that will remain for some time : more Bitcoin volatility leads to more Altcoins volatility.

bitcoin is dead, you may not know that yet. dash is down 90% from its highs, I had fundamental calculation showing dash would outperform, but the facts are as stands. I dont need to add anymore commentary time or capital to this project, the numbers are clear for all to see

You are at step 4... panic ensues.

Is Bitcoin still dead once it reaches and surpasses its previous ATH of $20K?

You had a fundamental calculation that DASH would outperform? Please show me this math.
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August 19, 2020, 08:15:59 PM

You mentioned just Bitcoin and Dash but none of the other thousands of crypto out there.

Why are you so anti-Dash?


bitcoin is dead, you may not know that yet. dash is down 90% from its highs, I had fundamental calculation showing dash would outperform, but the facts are as stands. I dont need to add anymore commentary time or capital to this project, the numbers are clear for all to see

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August 20, 2020, 04:57:49 AM

Dash Voting Cycle is coming up - 6 days to go - Please vote !

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August 20, 2020, 11:59:08 AM

It would be nice if people were actually making valid points or valid claims with evidence supporting it.
Instead of throwing around a bunch of personal opinions and displaying their subjective view on things.

One more thing.Binance couldnt establish 400 new masternodes,because whole sum of DASH on it is about 8000 coins,enough for only 8 nodes.

Still waiting on the evidence to support the claim that Binance whole sum of Dash is about 8000 coins.


Look at DASH markets at Binance and you will see that whole sum of coins is about 8000-10000 coins.I didnt see any change on it since Binance offered locked savings for DASH.There is not at one single evidence that Binance savings attracked enough DASH to establish 400 masternodes. Not even close.

This "jump" in the masternodes coincidence with the DASH jump price in USD from 60 to 100 in July and August due to BTC rise.Most likely some bigger masternode operator,who has no access to ultracheap chinese electricity ,activated masternodes again when he went into profit zone through combining mining and running masternodes.At the same time DASH hashrate jumped from average 6 to 7 PHash.

I said before and I will said again - no ordinary miner will mine coin which is for so many months very deep in to unprofitable zone.DASH is for months only profitable if you are combining mining and running masternodes. There is no miner who will put significant money into DASH masternodes in the time of bear market. They cant afford it. But big whales with a lot of money can afford it.Because of such huge mastenodes reward they can push out regular miners and take control of market,masternodes and mining operations - full control of coin which put them in such nice position to accumulate a lot of very cheap coins(which precedes every bull run) and make another  pump/dump in the time they want. Something similar happens with other coins,but because there are no such hefty masternodes reward,whales are much more careful to maintain network running safely with some profit for regular miners.

 
  

Very good point, but the whole point aint only about miners making profit..

Anyway there are way more than 8k dash coins on binance just calculate the sell order and you will see +50k but those are not locked
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Is Dash the Cryptocurrency for Africa?

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A 2020 estimate puts the population of the continent at 1.3 billion people, which is 17.5% of the world’s population. This invariably makes the continent a huge market for investors and global progressive financial trends like cryptocurrency. Yet the majority of the people in Africa still view cryptocurrency as a rather foreign concept, and its acceptance in the African market leaves much to be desired. In this article we shall elaborate the reasons why Dash could just be the cryptocurrency for Africa's populace.

As an African who potentially wants to invest in cryptocurrency but does not know which one to pick, there are certain questions which may go through your mind...

Read more: https://www.dashnation.com/voices-of-dash-nation/is-dash-the-cryptocurrency-for-africa/

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August 20, 2020, 06:42:06 PM

bitcoin is dead, you may not know that yet. dash is down 90% from its highs, I had fundamental calculation showing dash would outperform, but the facts are as stands. I dont need to add anymore commentary time or capital to this project, the numbers are clear for all to see
I think you should calm down, I don't think that Bitcoin is dead by the way do you mind showing to us you calculation?
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August 20, 2020, 07:26:42 PM

DASH struggling to re-establish above 0.0077 BTC (50 and 100 day SMA) and at the same time we have a golden cross on the USD chart 50 day SMA crossing above the 200 day SMA...

Might be a pretty good opportunity... (not financial advice)

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