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[qwizzie]

brainless troll talk

masochistic masternode owners

Masochistic : 'a person who enjoys an activity that appears to be painful or tedious.'
Source : Definition from Oxford Languages

That does describe you very well Mr. Masternode Owner, who keeps pushing a market theory that is soundly rejected by an overwhelming majority of his fellow masternode owners
and what looks to be also by a majority of miners. Yet you still keep pushing that market theory on this forum in such a tedious way, you must really really enjoy doing that.

Looking back at all these months of you advocating your market theory in here, do you think your marketing message is still correct and focused to the right target group ?
Have you expanded your little 2 persons club of 'higher mining rewards, higher hashing power' by now ? Or does your marketing message need adjusting ?
Maybe it needs more pictures ? A lot more pictures ? What do you think ?

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[toknormal]

Masochistic : 'a person who enjoys an activity that appears to be painful or tedious.'

Masternode owners voted for a protocol change which requires the market to devalue the capital value of their holdings to offset the increase in non-performing margins which do not benefit that market's investment prospects.

Being that masternode owners are the largest capital holders on average, it is they that will endure the most financial "pain" from this change. So the metaphor is justified.

[qwizzie]

Masochistic : 'a person who enjoys an activity that appears to be painful or tedious.'

Masternode owners voted for a protocol change which requires the market to devalue the capital value of their holdings to offset the increase in non-performing margins which do not benefit the market at all.

Being that masternode owners are the largest capital holders on average, it is they that will endure the most financial "pain". So the metaphor is justified.

Did you vote on it ? On the decision proposal itself ? I know you gave feedback, but did you vote on it ?

[toknormal]

Did you vote on it ? On the decision proposal itself ? I know you gave feedback, but did you vote on it ?

No. I haven't voted on anything since I lost my ability to do so on Dashcentral, though I could of course have made more effort by doing it manually.

You are free to berate me over that decision and no doubt you'll take full advantage of it. But if you think that justifies your case then I'm afraid you're about get a hard lesson from the market.

Like I say, it thinks it's investing in a monetary asset, not a golf club.

[qwizzie]

Did you vote on it ? On the decision proposal itself ? I know you gave feedback, but did you vote on it ?

No. I haven't voted on anything since I lost my ability to do so on Dashcentral, though I could of course have made more effort by doing it manually.

You are of course free to berate me over that and no doubt you'll take full advantage of it. But if you think that justifies your case then I'm afraid you're about get a hard lesson from the market.

Like I say, it's investing in a monetary asset, not a golf club.

It sometimes feels like i am talking to two toknormals in here :

One toknormal that is a masternode operator that used to vote, but stopped voting on budget proposals and decision proposals a long time ago. I could indeed berate you about neglecting to vote on something you criticize so heavily in here, but i don't think i need to do that. That part is pretty obvious to everyone.
There is also the other toknormal that talks about masternode operators in third person, as if he does not identify himself as being a masternode operator.

It is very strange to observe, almost like you have two personalities, and they are sending mixed signals out. That can't help very well with your marketing message.
My suggestion is to unite them both, let there be only one !

[toknormal]

My suggestion is to unite them both, let there be only one !

There's no "mixed message". I have an investment in Dash and my motivation is self-preservation and the health of the network in equal measure.

There's no fun in promoting something that you can see has a gaping great economic hole in it. Worse, the market sees it as well. The only people that don't see it are a very small number of holders with more voting power than sense plus one gatekeeping foot soldier on the [ANN Dash] thread.

[qwizzie]

plus one gatekeeping foot soldier on the [ANN Dash] thread.

You are talking about Dahaa aren't you ? Sorry, but we really do need a foot soldier here to keep the gate open and help us bump stuff.
And Dahaa is doing a really good job !!

[Dahaa]

O great qwizzie, tell me, please, where will the “best” coin grow in the near future? I've been watching you for 3 years and from time to time you predict great growth

plus one gatekeeping foot soldier on the [ANN Dash] thread.

You are talking about Dahaa aren't you ? Sorry, but we really do need a foot soldier here to keep the gate open and help us bump stuff.
And Dahaa is doing a really good job !!

[qwizzie]

Good Lord, that was a fast and timely bump of Dahaa.

I am starting to wonder if you may have three personalities, toknormal.
You have not, right ? Not a little masochistic Russian one deep inside you ?

Edit : i should probably give you more credit then that, so forget i asked. Dahaa is just .. Dahaa. 

[Dahaa]

Answer my question How much will we grow in the same way? You love to make beautiful predictions! It's not funny anymore!

Good Lord, that was a fast and timely bump of Dahaa.

I am starting to wonder if you may have three personalities, toknormal.
You have not, right ? Not a little masochistic Russian one deep inside you ?

Edit : i should probably give you more credit then that, so forget i asked. Dahaa is just .. Dahaa. 

[Dahaa]

Congratulations everyone new bottom is broken dash / btc 0.0052 So soon we will start adding zeros

[qwizzie]

Looks like Bitcoin has flipped (or is about to flip) $13,000 to support and is going towards $14,000  
Expect increased price volatility among Altcoins, when that happens.

Looks like Bitcoin has been making its move after all, these last few days

1 Bitcoin = $13,400

Lets see if it reaches $14,000

Link : https://cryptowat.ch/charts/BINANCE:BTC-USDT?period=1d

[qwizzie]

Did you vote on it ? On the decision proposal itself ? I know you gave feedback, but did you vote on it ?

No. I haven't voted on anything since I lost my ability to do so on Dashcentral, though I could of course have made more effort by doing it manually.

I am curious, were you known as 'dashed' on Dash Central ?

[toknormal]

I am curious, were you known as 'dashed' on Dash Central ?

No. "Roger".

[qwizzie]

I am curious, were you known as 'dashed' on Dash Central ?

No. "Roger".

That is a relief to hear. So how did you loose your ability to vote on Dash Central ?
Was it due to the switch to deterministic masternodes ? Or something else ?

[toknormal]

I dunno. Every time I tried to vote it threw me an error. I mailed (#forgotHisNameThatRunsDashwhale) about it a couple of years back and I think he might have tried something but it didn't work. I did vote on a couple of things though - used the native client, but when it upgraded substantially I needed to do a bit of reconfig and didn't get round to it. (Plus I felt that the proposals were becoming less significant other than the core ones that generally passed anyway).

[qwizzie]

I dunno. Every time I tried to vote it threw me an error. I mailed (#forgotHisNameThatRunsDashwhale) about it a couple of years back and I think he might have tried something but it didn't work. I did vote on a couple of things though - used the native client, but when it upgraded substantially I needed to do a bit of reconfig and didn't get round to it. (Plus I felt that the proposals were becoming less significant other that the core ones that generally passed anyway).

Rango is the one that runs Dash Central. We normally place a shout to rango in the shoutbox of Dash Central, if we have problems with Dash Central. Sometimes they are also related to temp not being able to vote.  After we switched to deterministic masternodes a few years back and got a separate voting address, rango changed how that voting authentication works on Dash Central. A masternode priv key no longer works. I think it needs either the priv key of the new voting address or you need to verify ownership over that new voting address. He mentioned it in the account setup of Dash Central i think.

If you ever feel like voting again and have followed Dash Central latest instructions with regards to voting and still have problems with voting, then just place a shout to rango in the Dash Central shoutbox.

[toknormal]

Oh yeah, Rango, that's right. Dashcentral was dead handy for voting. A brilliant system. One of the best things that ever happened to Dash that site.

[qwizzie]

Oh yeah, Rango, that's right. Dashcentral was dead handy for voting. A brilliant system. One of the best things that ever happened to Dash that site.

This is the latest instruction for being able to vote in Dash Central, after deterministic masternodes were introduced :

3. How do i get my mastenode voting privkey?

When you registered your masternode with the deterministic masternode list, you ran the following command "protx register_prepare collateralHash collateralIndex ipAndPort ownerKeyAddr operatorPubKey votingKeyAddr operatorReward payoutAddress". The voting privkey is the private key of the value votingKeyAddr. To get the voting privkey you have to run "dumpprivkey votingKeyAddr" in the debug console of your unlocked DASH wallet. Voting privkey's start with the character X and are 52 character long.

You can find it under 'My Account' --> 'Edit Masternodes' --> 'Frequent Questions' on the Dash Central website.
I also recommend to do an ownership verification on at least 1 of your masternodes, so your receive a MNO label on Dash Central.
How to do that is also explained there.

[toknormal]

So we're headed into exchange rate territory with BTC that has not been seen since the dawn of Dash. May I suggest a remedy.

We have nearly half of all our new blocks in reserve = dry powder. They don't get used for anything other than to pay masternodes for doing nothing and the new investors in Dash never see that value because it goes straight to paying the cost of holiday cruises (metaphorically speaking of course ). Even masternodes themselves don't see that value because the cryptocurrency exchange markets simply de-capitalise us as they see fit, so nobody is winning.

We could open up that part of the supply to competitive mining and massively raise the cost base of those blocks. That in turn would raise the tradeable price on the open market and ideally arrest the catastrophic loss of capital value in the chain that we're currently seeing (which I think is unjustified under any economic terms but I can see why the market is doing it. It is trying to tell us something and maybe we should listen).

We may have to consider that we made the wrong decision last year with the protocol change and sent it in the wrong direction. Luckily Dash has a governance mechanism and wrong decisions can be reviewed after a reasonably probationary period, possibly taking a broader range of criteria into account than were considered at the time.

Don't worry about loss of nodes. BTC nodes don't have the chance to make any profit at all. They can't even make a business out of running a node. There will always be takers for a commercially competitive margin no matter what the price of Dash.



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