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[qwizzie]

Or maybe i am misunderstanding something here ?

Yes, you're "misunderstanding something here" which is that - as stated above - I only ever had 1 Dashwhale account and 1 bitcointalk account your honour.

What else do you require to know till you accept that posts are being made in good faith ?

So what is that Dash Whale / Dash Central account exactly ? 'dashwhale' or 'Roger' ?
This is getting so confusing  

It almost feels like you are not being truthful about how many accounts you have on Dash Whale / Dash Central.
Which raises the question how truthful your answer of having only 1 bitcointalk forum account really is.

And if you are not being truthful about things like these, how truthful are you in other matters you are posting about ?

[xkcdd]

When people are talking of DASH masternode profits, talking about masternode today costs of $77000 and how its yearly profit is so low for such of investment is completely wrong. Historic charts clearly show that 4500(90%) of masternodes were established before previous bull run for a cost of max$15000. They were paid off for a many,many times ,so today ,they generates pure profit to its owners and every price above 0 is good for them.
 

I agree with this statement, this is how the old hands are able to dump the price back to fair value, new hands however set the price and it is those that I am looking at most closely, it seems this year $65 has proven to be an attractive enough price for them.  Next year will be interesting.

[toknormal]

It almost feels like you are not being truthful with how many accounts you have on Dash Whale / Dash Central.

Well regardless of how it "feels" I only ever had one.

Maybe you've got too much time on your hands for cooking up toxic aspersions about people.

Try entertaining the idea that some posters may present their arguments in good faith because they've researched & reflected on them and not because they're covertly trying to undermine the discussion.

[qwizzie]

It almost feels like you are not being truthful with how many accounts you have on Dash Whale / Dash Central.

Well regardless of how it "feels" I only ever had one.

Maybe you've got too much time on your hands for cooking up toxic aspersions about people.

Try entertaining the idea that some posters may present their arguments in good faith because they've researched them and not because they're covertly trying to undermine the discussion.

I guess you leave me no other choice, but to conclude you are indeed not telling the truth (they call that lying), as you already posted to have at least two Dash Whale / Dash Central accounts.

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So i just have to ask you, are you in fact a masternode operator ? A masternode operator with little interest in Dash governance system and more in it for the blockrewards ?

I've operated a node since God knows when - 2014 I think. I've also been fairly active on Dashcentral except for the last year or so (used to be dashwhale) and have participated in governance discussions for donkeys

I am curious, were you known as 'dashed' on Dash Central ?

No. "Roger".

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I also highly suspect (my own personal assumption) you have at least three bitcointalk forum accounts, that you use to spread bearish sentiment on this forum.
With that out of the way, please by all means continue the discussions. Don't let poor little me distract you.

[toknormal]

you already posted to have at least two Dash Whale / Dash Central accounts

qwizzie you are treading on very thin ice by toxifying the discussion like this.

What, may I ask are the names of the accounts you claim to have been used as "sockpuppets" by me ?

[qwizzie]

you already posted to have at least two Dash Whale / Dash Central accounts

qwizzie you are treading on very thin ice by toxifying the debate like this.

What, may I ask are the names of the accounts you claim to have been used as "sockpuppets" by me ?

Lets just say i am keeping that assumption to myself, until i have gathered some further evidence. I don't want to present my assumption as a fact after all.
By all means continue the discussions. I have said what i wanted to say, you have said you wanted to say. I consider this topic closed for now.

[toknormal]

until i have gathered some further evidence.

Well remember to not offer me an apology when you fail to come up with any and just fabricate it instead. We wouldn't want to see your reputation for character assassination to go downhill.

[xkcdd]

birdonthewire is @Purpelado#3256 I would recognise that hateful rambling anywhere.  I am not sure why he is so obsessed with this coin if he hates it so much, you'd think he'd have more productive things to do.

[birdonthewire]

I wonder about a person's motive to try to post as many separate posts as possible, one following the other and the last one ending with '............', instead of just bundling them all in one post.



 
I guess it is a form of trying to steer the discussions into one direction, trying to control the narrative so to speak.

I also wonder why certain people feel a need to make a lot of separate accounts on this Bitcointalk forum. They put all this time and energy into setting up these sock poppet accounts, and for what ?
To enforce a bearish view on things in this Dash forum ? I guess ? They often get exposed by neglecting to pay attention to the little things too.

What do you think of people who engage in that kind of activity on this Bitcointalk forum, toknormal ? Would you consider that healthy behavior ?
Which reminds me (slightly off topic) : how many accounts did you have on Dash Whale / Dash Central again ? DashWale, Roger, and i think you mentioned a few more ?  
(i have a hard time remembering them all)
  

 

LOL   ... everything is much simpler, Sherlock, at least in my case. To begin with, these ellipses respond to the impossibility of eliminating messages - repeated in that case - imposed by btctalk until after 24 hours ... at least to users of my level and / or knowledge -)

(Although really, in yours it is also simple: as if someone appeared capable of arguing with criteria against your corrupt position of sucking asses towards the consolidation of a system that, from an already evident centralization, advances even more to an absolute concentration of the really influential supply of dash. Well, you paint five feet to the cat or you boast of ignoring it ... inviting other people to do the same and feed on toxic and interested information like yours and thus if they have ignored questions of enormous interest in DASH ... but above all you avoid countering any argument - also, with your arrogant troll ways, you would end up with broken teeth and you would have to throw away that nick to build the next one ... since it only serves to troll and confuse the newbies, see if you can continue the scam ... as soon as you confront someone with a critical and well-formed view of DASH, your carts fall apart like sugar, because the arguments that They show corruption in each of the extensions originally declared as fundamental in the project, they are ammunition to win a hundred battles ... but coincidentally and as I have already left It is clear in the first posts for a few days, my line of post and opinion will turn in around the optimization of decentralization, economic independence and resistance to censorship that DASH proclaims as the basis of its project ... and that, in practice, are absolutely manipulated and corrupted. points for particular benefits whose dynamics is also to centralize, concentrate and corrupt more, as in the game of chairs -).

In my case, and for general information, since I don't give a shit what an intoxicating troll thinks, as surely can suppose even a slow guy like you, I have a nick here, another in the forum ... and another in discord. ..and only the DASH forum I did ex-process for DASH, the three highs being very spaced in time. I don't have more than one nick IN ANY MEDIA. And, of course, I am not going to create any new ones because I do not have the slightest desire for prominence and less any personalistic intention: In crypto and blockchain, I am only interested in optimizing resources to create decentralized, independent and self-sufficient libertarian structures ... and that of DASH, and I am not surprised by the well-earned image of corruption that it has in the rest of the crypto sector, it is a case worthy of study (which, however, I take positively as something capable of being improved ... if not , my presence here would be useless and on the contrary, I like to enjoy my time, you see how capricious I am).

So. in search of some synergy in a project especially disappointing because of the enormous seduction that the Duffield principles activated in so many people - principles today totally corrupted by a parasitic structure that has created immense niches of particular interest that practically nullify the potential collective inertia of the project - and of any possibility of reorientation of a potential jewel like DASH - which unfortunately the corrupt ones sink in the mud -, I post here, smiling and happy (although I fully understand that intoxicants and manipulators like you do not like least).

A greeting, sweet heart. 

[qwizzie]

And now for something less bearish, it looks like Dash price recovery is progressing nicely :


Source :  https://cryptowat.ch/charts/BINANCE:DASH-USDT?period=3d

Will Dash hit $100 end of this year ? Stay tuned.....

[birdonthewire]

birdonthewire is @Purpelado#3256 I would recognise that hateful rambling anywhere.  I am not sure why he is so obsessed with this coin if he hates it so much, you'd think he'd have more productive things to do.

LOL   Another Sherlock !!! ...I have never denied something like this, on the contrary, it is previously posted that my nicknames do not match ... but ... with my characteristic way of writing, have you noticed on your own ... or has your 6-year-old niece advised you?

By now, you know perfectly well that I don't hate this coin, troll, but I adore its initial approach to a high degree ... which is the one that corrupt like you are trying to destroy. The seriousness of the DASH issue is not really a corruption that tries to implant itself in almost the entire crypto world ... but that you exercise it with a project of enormous potential, nullifying its added value. That is the measure of your obscenity and dirt: The jewel that you have broken and that you have denied to others ... and that deserved to be used to build and create, not to sink it or turn it into filth that simply drips into your pockets.

But hey ... to clarify the position of corrupt people like you, necessary to destroy it, is another matter, little ass lick.

By the way ... your links are still waiting on Reddit to support your lies, that they placed you perfectly in your place. You still have medical leave for that itching ass ... or what is wrong with you? Your audience awaits you.  

... but hey, they will also wait here for you to expose the FUD with which you have wanted to disavow the talk from your first post ... and with which thunderbolt has painted your pretty troll face from minute 1.

Anyway ... I'm telling you out of pure altruism ... be practical: Or you're going to have to increase your parasitism in DASH to buy so much pomade. It's in the public domain for anyone that you prefer $ 5 DASH for your speculative shenanigans ... but hey ... it also has a bit of respect for those who see it as a possible solid long-term alternative, right?  

A greeting.

[Dahaa]

If qwizzie starts showing beautiful predictions, wait for a new bottom! Where is the Dash / BTC chart !?

And now for something less bearish, it looks like Dash price recovery is progressing nicely :

https://i.imgur.com/siPtF1L.jpg
Source :  https://cryptowat.ch/charts/BINANCE:DASH-USDT?period=3d

Will Dash hit $100 end of this year ? Stay tuned.....

[qwizzie]

It almost feels like you are not being truthful with how many accounts you have on Dash Whale / Dash Central.

Well regardless of how it "feels" I only ever had one.

Maybe you've got too much time on your hands for cooking up toxic aspersions about people.

Try entertaining the idea that some posters may present their arguments in good faith because they've researched them and not because they're covertly trying to undermine the discussion.

Having re-read everything i think i do need to offer you an apology. I read it as you having two account names : 'dashwhale' & 'Roger'. But having read it back, that does not seem to be the case.
You simply referred to Dash Central, as being named 'dashwhale' before (i guess you referring to 'dashwhale' instead of 'DashWhale' threw me off).

My sincere and humble apology.

And maybe my suspicions about you having more then one Bitcointalk forum account are incorrect and should not have posted. I just found it weird how a number of Bitcointalkforum accounts in here
have this very similar 'A greeting.' at the end of their posts. And when i saw that happen in one of your posts as well, i perhaps prematurely leaped to an incorrect conclusion.
  
My sincere and humble apology, if i overreacted there as well.


    

[birdonthewire]

If qwizzie starts showing beautiful predictions, wait for a new bottom! Where is the Dash / BTC chart !?

And now for something less bearish, it looks like Dash price recovery is progressing nicely :

Will Dash hit $100 end of this year ? Stay tuned.....

LOL !!! How do you know them !!! ...It seems that even "the grandmother of DASH" has learned before to recognize a centralized and speculative scam ... than to handle the famous wallet worldwide example of usability!

toxic quizzie, xkcd & the rest of the ass-licking parasites will have to tell Rtaylor to come up with another theory to troll a year ... that the bag sounds hollow!

I don't know ... what if the DAO finances their kidnappers the sweets of their nephews ... or the tampax of their girlfriends I think it could consolidate us as a store of value!

I don't know ... as long as there is imagination, there are options. Positive thinking to power !!!

[bigrcanada1]

Ahhh yes, toks delusional view of miners, that they are these majestic and pure white knights of the crypto world, providing the foundation and security of what we all hold dear.

Rubbish.  In my view...miners as they are today are the biggest risk to cyrpto currencies moving forward.  The control of the total global hash power of the crypto world in the hands of only a few players in countries that are hostile to freedom and free will.  I mean what could possibly go wrong.

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.  Yes...mining as possibly envisioned by Satoshi was fantastic ideal...that once implemented morphed into a cesspool of centralized manipulation that we see today. A colluding cabol of a small handful of players that control many of the projects in this space.

I for one believe in holding this power in check...and in fact minimizing our reliance on such a centralized cancer that mining has has become, essential!

[toknormal]

My sincere and humble apology.

A greeting.

[toknormal]

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.

Ok, lets just do the accounting for how the value gets into the chain and we'll soon see who is propagating the "outright lie".

Lets also see how "valuable" bitcoin becomes when it ditches its hashrate and adopts chainlocks instead to secure its network so that it can issue coins at no cost to anybody. They sure don't look like they're in a rush to do so and neither is anybody else.

[birdonthewire]

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.

Ok, lets just do the accounting for how the value gets into the chain and we'll soon see who is propagating the "outright lie".

Lets also see how "valuable" bitcoin becomes when it ditches its hashrate and adopts chainlocks instead to secure its network so that it can issue coins at no cost to anybody. They sure don't look like they're in a rush to do so and neither is anybody else.

You don't understand the Canadian Pig and his "high and altruistic wishes"! - another aneuronal parasite that prays in public for $ 5 DASH, widely known in discord for having been engendered by the anus, rather than from the front (his mom was a real visionary of what she contributed to this world... we cannot deny that family merit) -

"As BTC is irrelevant garbage compared to DASH ... and the miners, a threat of centralization ... we centralize it ourselves, 4 whales (and their crumb-eating ass-licking trolls ) ... and fixed matter !!!" ( Intellectual excellence in nectar always at the service of decentralization and the "general interest" ... it must be recognized!   )

[qwizzie]

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.

Ok, lets just do the accounting for how the value gets into the chain and we'll soon see who is propagating the "outright lie".

Lets also see how "valuable" bitcoin becomes when it ditches its hashrate and adopts chainlocks instead to secure its network so that it can issue coins at no cost to anybody. They sure don't look like they're in a rush to do so and neither is anybody else.

Zcoin to Copy Dash’s ChainLocks 51% Attack-Proofing
https://dashnews.org/zcoin-to-copy-dashs-chainlocks-51-attack-proofing/

Looks like Bitcoin is making a serious attempt at breaking into the $17,000 range.

1 BTC = $16,724 (+5,09%)
1 DASH = $82.23 (+11,09%)

[birdonthewire]

Beyond Rtaylor's insubstantial juggling to consolidate a store of value, now conveniently chanted by the rest of DAO hijackers ... the ONLY UNDISCUTABLE solution is an exposure to proven stores of value.

For DASH to consolidate its hypothetical rises, it is IMPOSSIBLE to ignore speculative agents and their Casino practices, such as Nakamoto's Cannibalism in BTC, the infinite fiat - direct, or amplified via BTC - ... or, specifically, DASH pump & dump prayers such as xkdc or the Pig of Canada (who shamefully define themselves as advocates of the project and are used and supported by DASH referents to intoxicate the project's information channels). The absolutely inexcusable IS DRIPPING proper RESERVATIONS to a destination that supports DASH.

In this way, speculative capital pumping its ecosystem would revalue those reserves every time they withdraw their artificial capital injections ... and DASH would take advantage of their speculative inflows ... and also their withdrawals.

Any rise in DASH is a leap to the bare chest and a renunciation of retaining the wealth received in its ecosystem (a fundamental resource to consolidate the financial independence that Duffield expressed in his original approach ... with which all these charlatan parasites wipe their asses , no matter how much feigned fidelity they dramatize at the expense of DASH, not developing resources in that sense is absolutely unaffordable Russian roulette for a 6-year-old project already ... one of the deans of the crypto sector.

Meanwhile ... the trolls keep spouting irrelevant stupidity to keep the holders distracted ... and their owners, bloating their pockets at the cost of sinking an inimitable project at its inception.

The first thing that DASH must do to be a Reserve of Value is to take advantage of ALL the capital received in its ecosystem. With the resources for that ... keep the crooks playing their rotten games ... zero problems.

Financial independence ... that's what they call it.