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[DRKLord]

How many DRK did The DRK Lord sell yesterday?

A: 1,000.00 DRK
B: 100.00 DRK
C: 10.00 DRK

Trick question! The DRK Lord is not subject to the folly of panic selling... Correct answer is 0.00000000 DRK! ;-)

Everyone with $100 of coin is trying to be a day trading hero, and 3 years from now they will own $22.00 worth of DRK or be begging for 0.001 DRK on a dice website. Instead of panic buying and panic selling, come up with a long-term investment plan for the crypto-currency you believe in (whether it's DRK or another currency). Unless you've traded something like commodity futures on large scale and know what it's like to lose/gain $10k+ in a day (or hour) I suggest you forget about trading the ups and downs. Just buy on the dips when everyone else panics and save your coins... when you're ready to get out, wait for a big rally and sell them off in increments.

I see a lot of faith in the long-term vision and future of DRK, and that is encouraging to me. It reminds me of Bitcoin back in 2011, except I think Darkcoin's growth could be faster. We're not reinventing the wheel, we're building the car... and not just any car, it's an uber-stealth Bat Mobile with lots of machine guns. :-)

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[buy4crypto]

DRK/CNY on BTER is currently 3rd largest source of volume tracked by coinmarketcap next to btc / drk on mintpal and cryptsy. Its also highest valued DRK out of all the top trading platforms for DRK

THAT IS A HUGE jump in demand for CNY / DRK from a couple days ago. Very cool to see more FIAT / DRK traded. Provides a direct gateway to deposit / withdraw.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

DRK/CNY on BTER is currently 3rd largest source of volume tracked by coinmarketcap next to btc / drk on mintpal and cryptsy. Its also highest valued DRK out of all the top trading platforms for DRK

THAT IS A HUGE jump in demand for CNY / DRK from a couple days ago. Very cool to see more FIAT / DRK traded. Provides a direct gateway to deposit / withdraw.

The Chinese are coming!

Just wait till they all want Darkcoins of their very own.


Edit: is there a DRK thread in the chinese language section yet?

[bitcoinsid]

stop worrying about "how many drk for 1 btc"  because oneday you will be worrying about " how many btc for 1 drk" i said to my freind 

[slapper]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

[slapper]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

[darkproton]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

[thelonecrouton]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

LTC founder, sold his soul to the ASIC manufacturers and damned LTC to its now inevitable grave.

[ddink7]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

LTC founder, sold his soul to the ASIC manufacturers and damned LTC to its now inevitable grave.

Honestly, I'm not sure Charles had much of a choice. As we've seen, hard forks are extremely difficult, and there were already vested interests (ASICs and those who had purchased them) that would have refused to accept a hard fork. The lack of consensus on the network would have been devastating. At least this way Litecoin has a (small) chance of surviving.

In retrospect, Charles' biggest failure is the fact that he didn't innovate. He copied BTC and only changed the block speed and PoW algorithm. He made no other improvements to the protocol. He should have foreseen the eventually Scrypt ASICs would come along (assuming the coin was successful) and planned accordingly. But he didn't, and now LTC no longer has any real advantage over BTC, since ASICs have/are taking over.

[MyFarm]

Just an idea from Bellacoin to improve communication:

[smoothie]

darkcoin going to 0.02! buys building up, next bull run will take us up in big leaps XD

Hardly did this come to fruition. More of your hyping coins. Pump and dump BS.

[smoothie]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

LTC founder, sold his soul to the ASIC manufacturers and damned LTC to its now inevitable grave.

lol love the LTC FUD here.

[3ham3]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

LTC founder, sold his soul to the ASIC manufacturers and damned LTC to its now inevitable grave.

lol love the LTC FUD here.

Going to be some sad faces when LTC hits the moon.. if only I held onto my 1k LTC...

[slapper]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

LTC founder, sold his soul to the ASIC manufacturers and damned LTC to its now inevitable grave.

lol love the LTC FUD here.

Which part?

[bitcoinsid]

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

LTC founder, sold his soul to the ASIC manufacturers and damned LTC to its now inevitable grave.

lol love the LTC FUD here.

Going to be some sad faces when LTC hits the moon.. if only I held onto my 1k LTC...

Surprising to see the Chinese getting in on DRK. They have been brainwashed into LTC subservience. It is hard to imagine any "alt" not being a PnD for them. If I had to hazard a guess, there are more $50 Chinese LTC bagholders than US/Europe combined. Some probably still believe in the Wall Street, Mt.Gox, Coinbase, tooth fairy and bigfoot stories and tell that to others in the typical subservient fashion.

Why is this? Are they heavily influenced by the Bagholders Trolls and Conartists Exchange? I know they have a Chinese language trollbox as well as a Russian one.

Coblee.

Who is this coblee? Keep seeing his name in regards to LTC. What's the deal?

LTC founder, sold his soul to the ASIC manufacturers and damned LTC to its now inevitable grave.

lol love the LTC FUD here.

Going to be some sad faces when LTC hits the moon.. if only I held onto my 1k LTC...

dont worry u can probly buy back double now ;-)....but if u wait a month , u can get treble...lol

[thunderdrum]

The primary buyers / whales of DRK and the largest holders have a different worldview of things compared to the "oh I have 20 DRKs and I call myself an investor" attention-deficit-disorder people.

They have more realistic expectations and are not behaving like ...well.... "stupid people". For the most part, at least those who understand cryptocurrencies, understand that a development plan needs time, effort and even trial & error to get it right. The patience level varies between them as there is no uniformity of what they are willing to accept in terms of delays, but most are quite mature in their approach. Besides, even with the delay, the bump from 10% to 20% ensures that they'll get more than they bargained for.

If you have a testnet and dont get it right the second time, there is no excuse. There were lots of people working hard preparing and deploying masternodes. Its just disappointing. I thougt the Nxt AE would be a tricky one to implement, but they did there homework and it runs smooth. This is getting a million dollar grave.

I don't think anybody is looking for excuses here. Masternode payments are a serious hack to the bitcoin protocol because they add further layers of consensus to the network. We could fork another 2 times and still not get it right - until we actually do. The only people "disappointed" are those who do not realize the size of the task, thinking it's something minor. Newsflash: It's isn't. Calibrate your expectations accordingly.

Prior to the May 25th fork I wrote:

For the bet: I'm not a betting guy anymore.

LOL. If you really believed what you were saying, you would have immediately his DRK under 6$ within 3 weeks' bet.

Darkcoin is not Bitcoin. It's in active development. Its code is changing every day and there have been two hard forks in like 10 days. Something can go wrong with a bug, people can flash-crash it in an instant and a candle might appear at 6$. Why bet* on something like that? The masternode hack in particular can be tricky for it requires changes in stratum + p2pools. It got delayed 2 weeks and it'll still have bugs I believe, that might require extra hard fork.

Prior to yesterday's fork I wrote:

Anyone knows what Evan has been up to lately? If not, my guess is that he is preparing a sick announcement for RC4 tomorrow after hard fork.

Given the path that we followed from alpha-beta etc, usually stuff related to DarkSend were first tested on testnet to check them out for problems... I doubt RC4 will go online straight away as without testing it might break existing functionality. It's a 50mn coin right now, you can't just put large updates without test. But even when it was 1-2mn coin, we still went the testnet route first. So probably we'll first see a call for testing RC4 features, when some of these are ready, and then => RC4 announcement.

As for price, I recommend keeping some cash in reserve to chew panic sellers if something goes wrong. No matter how well tested it is, masternode payments are a big hack to the protocol and they may still present problems. This is not FUD, it's just the way it is regarding such fundamental changes. Let's say the right attitude this time round is "cautiously optimistic".

Am I prophet for writing the above? I just understand what the task is and what to realistically expect.

Anyone thinking that success is 100% guaranteed, is deluded. Even Bitcoin can crash in an instant due to some bug or even fork - without even applying dramatic/fundamental changes. You try your best and hope for the best. If it isn't enough, you try again and again until you succeed. There is no other way. All others are shitting on DRK and then they'll use the same masternode protocol for their own payments, when it's ready. Even Bitcoin might apply something similar to give incentives to node operators as that aspect is not very future-proof.

Thanks Alex, Very objective thinking, and hat off for your opinon about transparent information on testnet.

As an investor, i am very confident in project DARKCOIN and the Dev team, and also shows my respect to the community and the main holder in the market for the great plans we both have.

every event has the bright and dark side. It's not a successful release RC3 yesterday, but a good opportunity to buy low, especially for the main holder/whale. Right now, the problem and solution are both be found. But IMHO, i still think maybe it's a bit more caution Evan made that decision for such a low probability events which can be fixed by the Network that takes sometimes and by next version release. Nevertheless,  You can't blame others pursuit of perfection in software development.
All things, especially the great one, are difficult before they are easy.

与君共勉


Are we getting the 2000 page? 

[TanteStefana2]

^^^
totally agree!

We've already determined that fractions of a dark are called duffs

How many duffs you got?


Geepers!  I'm such a forum killer!

[luke997]

I thought there will be few more panic sells so had my traps @ 0.014, but no luck, hardly anyone is selling.
Time to snatch some coins before we get back to 0.017-0.018 on Monday.

Your Recent Trades:
2014-06-22 05:17:50   BUY   0.01579500   432.00000000   6.82344000   0.01023516   6.83367516
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[luke997]

Hoping now for some build up @ ~0.016, otherwise will have to slip to 0.0167 with the next shot...