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June 20, 2014, 10:35:50 PM
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Update: Reverting Masternode Payments and New Binaries

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/reverting-rc3-masternode-payments-fork.1458/

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June 20, 2014, 10:36:29 PM
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If anyone has any evidence to suggest that the network was "forked" at any point, please share - I have reviewed IRC transcripts and have read every post, and was monitoring the pools throughout the hardfork implementation and there was never any evidence that I am aware of to suggest that the network had actually forked. Hopefully Evan will re-release the same code and we can try to fork RC3 in a couple days.

I was going through the two block explorers and I think it was a ...97 block which I saw on chainz and the official block explorer. They had different values for the same block.


I was refreshing the block explorers periodically, I did notice chainz was behind at one point (chainz often lags for no apparent reason so I wouldn't read much into that), but I didn't see any evidence of a fork, just some lagging.  When the revert went up both explorers (and all pools) were on the correct chain.

several forks where found on the network, that is why reversal was the only logical choice

I understand. Better to be safe than live with the worry that additional forking may occur down the road. You were right about at least some forking occurring, I see that coinmine.pl was on a wrong fork for over an hour https://www2.coinmine.pl/drk/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks - so I take back my previous statements.
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June 20, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
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June 20, 2014, 10:42:32 PM
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Simcom: BTW, I def. saw some strong evidence of sideforking last night. My biz partner sent me 250DRK last night to top out our fifth community owned node and it just never arrived (he was using .9x I was using .10x). I'm assuming this transaction was orphaned since it never arrived (and I *think* it never left his wallet).

Anything that happened before the hardfork is irrelevant. Likely a run-of-the-mill orphaned block.

It's possible. However, this morning Evan was talking about possible forking issues hours several before the official fork time about 2 hours ago; A problem that may be related to having a mix of old/new software versions among nodes.
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June 20, 2014, 10:42:50 PM
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coins101: Your last was very informative. Plz post moar!!!111

maybe we need some new material. I'll go ask auntie google. brb
The first one you post, long time ago is lot more cute.

haha, the one with the peakish nose and the enormous .... Grin

so in the history books they will say "in the darkest hour, they viewed porn" Smiley
lol yeah thats porn, are u Amish by any chance ?

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June 20, 2014, 10:43:29 PM
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I give up on this non issue for now.

JD & Game of Thrones box set beckons.

Let me know when we are back above 0.02

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June 20, 2014, 10:47:55 PM
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These recent posts are clearly stimulating the market, keep going.

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June 20, 2014, 10:51:27 PM
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These recent posts are clearly stimulating the market, keep going.

I think we need to side chain porn.

Maybe the wallets can have a little pop-up window for porn on side chains, and when we need network information we change the message. Might get a little frustrating if you are getting busy  Grin
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June 20, 2014, 10:51:39 PM
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<@evan82> http://pastebin.com/QmbM8dPH
[08:51] <@evan82> I found the problem :-)
[08:51] <@evan82> It's actually rather simple to fix
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June 20, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
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These recent posts are clearly stimulating the market, keep going.

Buyer seems to love girls & chewing DRKs, steadily, whether in small or large chunks.

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June 20, 2014, 10:52:45 PM
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[08:51] <@evan82> I found the problem :-)
[08:51] <@evan82> It's actually rather simple to fix
[08:52] <@evan82> anyone care to guess from the paste? I'm curious



<@evan82> http://pastebin.com/QmbM8dPH
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June 20, 2014, 10:54:47 PM
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BUMP

Everyone update

Update: Reverting Masternode Payments and New Binaries

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/reverting-rc3-masternode-payments-fork.1458/

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June 20, 2014, 10:55:05 PM
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<@evan82> Two blocks are solved at nearly the same moment on the network, both are propogated and accepted by the network. In the current implementation both blocks have the same hash, but in these blocks there's some discrepency about who to vote for.

<@evan82> In one block the miner votes for 88802 and 88803, in the other the miner abstains from voting. When the next block is solved it's based on of one of the older blocks, so half of the network beleives the miner cheated and rejects the block causing a fork.

<@evan82> The solution to this is rather simple. Any changes to the votes need to also change the hash of the block. The network must not think these two blocks are the same.
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[01:51] <evan82> http://pastebin.com/QmbM8dPH
[01:51] <evan82> I found the problem :-)
[01:51] <evan82> It's actually rather simple to fix
[01:51] <tifozi> ahem
[01:52] <evan82> anyone care to guess from the paste? I'm curious
[01:52] <tifozi> checking
[01:52] <tifozi> badVote
[01:53] <evan82> Both votes have the same hash, but they have different votes
[01:53] <evan82> er both blocks*
[01:54] <evan82> Two blocks are solved at nearly the same moment on the network, both are propogated and accepted by the network. In the current implementation both blocks have the same hash, but in these blocks there's some discrepency about who to vote for.
[01:54] <evan82> In one block the miner votes for 88802 and 88803, in the other the miner abstains from voting. When the next block is solved it's based on of one of the older blocks, so half of the network beleives the miner cheated and rejects the block causing a fork.
[01:54] <GNULinuxGuy> nice Cheesy
[01:54] <evan82> The solution to this is rather simple. Any changes to the votes need to also change the hash of the block. The network must not think these two blocks are the same.
[01:54] <tifozi> How come we didnt see this in testnet
[01:54] <tifozi> seems rather simple problem
[01:55] <tifozi> what in mainnet causes it
[01:55] <evan82> Not sure. No one noticed.
[01:55] <qqr> race conditions are hard to witness
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June 20, 2014, 11:02:29 PM
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The price did move  Cool

Now I'm not sure if that was the problem being found and being an easy fix, or the picture of the little rocket  Grin
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June 20, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
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edit: and of course this is great distraction against FUD, dont get me wrong ppl

I think we should make it an official policy of this thread to post semi-naked chicks every time a FUD-post is posted.

Quote the fuder =>

Quote
...FUD

=> chick

WIN

Grin
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June 20, 2014, 11:11:15 PM
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Someone on mintpal (and only mintpal) hasn't heard the good news.

Last chance for cheap DRK!

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June 20, 2014, 11:15:47 PM
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Today the masternode payments fork went into effect. The fork went off without issue and the network looks very healthy, but it appears there is some issue with pools voting for the wrong masternodes. This is causing payments to not go through as they should.

The fix is rather simple and can be done without a hard fork. After the pools update to the fixed version, the payments will begin to go through.
We’re currently working on a resolution and will provide the new version soon (probably by tomorrow, hopefully in a few hours).

Thanks,

The Darkcoin Team

Pools need to update to the fixed version

[01:51] <evan82> http://pastebin.com/QmbM8dPH
[01:51] <evan82> I found the problem :-)
[01:51] <evan82> It's actually rather simple to fix
[01:51] <tifozi> ahem
[01:52] <evan82> anyone care to guess from the paste? I'm curious
[01:52] <tifozi> checking
[01:52] <tifozi> badVote
[01:53] <evan82> Both votes have the same hash, but they have different votes
[01:53] <evan82> er both blocks*
[01:54] <evan82> Two blocks are solved at nearly the same moment on the network, both are propogated and accepted by the network. In the current implementation both blocks have the same hash, but in these blocks there's some discrepency about who to vote for.
[01:54] <evan82> In one block the miner votes for 88802 and 88803, in the other the miner abstains from voting. When the next block is solved it's based on of one of the older blocks, so half of the network beleives the miner cheated and rejects the block causing a fork.
[01:54] <GNULinuxGuy> nice Cheesy
[01:54] <evan82> The solution to this is rather simple. Any changes to the votes need to also change the hash of the block. The network must not think these two blocks are the same.
[01:54] <tifozi> How come we didnt see this in testnet
[01:54] <tifozi> seems rather simple problem
[01:55] <tifozi> what in mainnet causes it
[01:55] <evan82> Not sure. No one noticed.
[01:55] <qqr> race conditions are hard to witness

Its going to take one more month for what you call "simple problem" ?

 
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June 20, 2014, 11:21:21 PM
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I am somehow surprised that no one thought about modifying the hashes after introducing the MN voting system, especially since it impacts consensus, but hell ...

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June 20, 2014, 11:22:43 PM
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Its going to take one more month for what you call "simple problem" ?
Who said anything about one more month? Or are you just trolling?

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