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February 12, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
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They already have, and they want to open the door to GPU miners, because 90 percent of the crypto miners use GPUs.  If they want this coin to last more than a few weeks this needs to be done.  
Hm... I don't see the connection between mining on GPU and coin fading away. What keeps coin running is its features, not how it's mined. Price stability is one of them. Look at the news on how most officials react on Bitcoin's pumps and dumps: "don't use it, it's not safe and may fall any time". Unless we have relatively stable exchange rate (or, in other words, buying ability not to link it to fiat), coin is mostly speculative thing and does not embrace the notion of alternative currency.
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February 12, 2014, 10:52:21 PM
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Hey eduffield (sorry if I'm spelling wrong going off memory). I'm tinkering with your sg miner trying to see if I can contribute to this. I'm away from home and thus toying around on a windows machine. I made a few changes but I can't compile it, I'm getting undefined reference to "sleep" errors. If memory serves me right you can't use sleep() in windows. It happens trying to compile the original files you posted. Have you attempted to build it in windows?

Do you know a workaround for this?

edit: compiling in MinGW, I'm not familiar with any others.

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February 12, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
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Yes, but we must have the technology to strike back on someone or group that is using a gpu based miner.  I'm not saying release the miner, but keep it stock piled.

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I think this is an algorithmic task. Let the developers say their word.

They already have, and they want to open the door to GPU miners, because 90 percent of the crypto miners use GPUs.  If they want this coin to last more than a few weeks this needs to be done. 

Agreed. And this will be specially important once all the ASICs scrypt miners are available for cheap, what coins do you think people with GPU will mine then? DRK, MTC, PTS, MMC, VTC ... all these originally CPU coins now with GPU miner Smiley
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February 12, 2014, 11:07:19 PM
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They already have, and they want to open the door to GPU miners, because 90 percent of the crypto miners use GPUs.  If they want this coin to last more than a few weeks this needs to be done.  
Hm... I don't see the connection between mining on GPU and coin fading away. What keeps coin running is its features, not how it's mined. Price stability is one of them. Look at the news on how most officials react on Bitcoin's pumps and dumps: "don't use it, it's not safe and may fall any time". Unless we have relatively stable exchange rate (or, in other words, buying ability not to link it to fiat), coin is mostly speculative thing and does not embrace the notion of alternative currency.

The fact that we're arguing about whether to keep it cpu or move to gpu implies that how its mined IS one of the coins features.  Price stability is not what keeps a coin running, price stability leads so a slow inevitable decline.  Why?  Because all crypto is nothing more than an instrument of speculation (at least for the time being), and 99 percent of the people involved are here for speculation although I'm sure many would not admit to it.  Coins that have no more waves to ride are slowly forgotten about.  
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February 12, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
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Coins that have no more waves to ride are slowly forgotten about.  

It would be forgotten by speculators, but warmly adopted as a mature currency. Sellers wouldn't need to instantly convert them in fiat anymore and they would be value by themselves.
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February 12, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
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Coins that have no more waves to ride are slowly forgotten about.  

It would be forgotten by speculators, but warmly adopted as a mature currency. Sellers wouldn't need to instantly convert them in fiat anymore and they would be value by themselves.

Adopted by who?  Nothing but speculators in this game my friend.  The only alt i've seen keeping steady is litecoin and that was cpu mined at first and then moved to gpu.  now the asics are coming out. 
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February 13, 2014, 12:06:14 AM
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Coins that have no more waves to ride are slowly forgotten about.  

It would be forgotten by speculators, but warmly adopted as a mature currency. Sellers wouldn't need to instantly convert them in fiat anymore and they would be value by themselves.

Adopted by who?  Nothing but speculators in this game my friend.  The only alt i've seen keeping steady is litecoin and that was cpu mined at first and then moved to gpu.  now the asics are coming out. 

VPN providers, anonymous purchasing services, any product or service that would benefit from a private currency.
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February 13, 2014, 12:34:21 AM
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Coins that have no more waves to ride are slowly forgotten about.  

It would be forgotten by speculators, but warmly adopted as a mature currency. Sellers wouldn't need to instantly convert them in fiat anymore and they would be value by themselves.

Adopted by who?  Nothing but speculators in this game my friend.  The only alt i've seen keeping steady is litecoin and that was cpu mined at first and then moved to gpu.  now the asics are coming out. 

VPN providers, anonymous purchasing services, any product or service that would benefit from a private currency.

This is what makes this coin different. Most coins are just used for speculation, just in case they become something important, and when they don't they just basically die. DRK has a different future, right now it's about speculation, but later it will be useful for those kind of services seeking for full anonymous payments.

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Coins that have no more waves to ride are slowly forgotten about.  

It would be forgotten by speculators, but warmly adopted as a mature currency. Sellers wouldn't need to instantly convert them in fiat anymore and they would be value by themselves.

Adopted by who?  Nothing but speculators in this game my friend.  The only alt i've seen keeping steady is litecoin and that was cpu mined at first and then moved to gpu.  now the asics are coming out.  

VPN providers, anonymous purchasing services, any product or service that would benefit from a private currency.

This is what makes this coin different. Most coins are just used for speculation, just in case they become something important, and when they don't they just basically die. DRK has a different future, right now it's about speculation, but later it will be useful for those kind of services seeking for full anonymous payments.



Trust me, I want to see this happen just as much as you!  I think DRK has the potential to become the next VRT, maybe even LTC. All I was really trying to get at was that initially, this coin needs to appeal to the majority to catch on, hence the need for gpu mining.
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February 13, 2014, 01:03:45 AM
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How accurate is the hashrate on the dashboard?  I noticed it is all over the place, also the estimated darks per day is way off too right?  Thanks.
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February 13, 2014, 01:10:39 AM
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How accurate is the hashrate on the dashboard?  I noticed it is all over the place, also the estimated darks per day is way off too right?  Thanks.

The hashrate is just volatile. I fixed the estimates though, that should be fine now.

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February 13, 2014, 01:26:23 AM
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DarkCoin Official Pool

How accurate is the hashrate on the dashboard?  I noticed it is all over the place, also the estimated darks per day is way off too right?  Thanks.

The hashrate is just volatile. I fixed the estimates though, that should be fine now.

Thank you.
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February 13, 2014, 03:48:50 AM
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Hey eduffield (sorry if I'm spelling wrong going off memory). I'm tinkering with your sg miner trying to see if I can contribute to this. I'm away from home and thus toying around on a windows machine. I made a few changes but I can't compile it, I'm getting undefined reference to "sleep" errors. If memory serves me right you can't use sleep() in windows. It happens trying to compile the original files you posted. Have you attempted to build it in windows?

Do you know a workaround for this?

edit: compiling in MinGW, I'm not familiar with any others.
I tried to compile it tonight and got the same error. This helped me:

https://github.com/Niek/sgminer/commit/4e7c8a067223bb6b49791bf0ded1e3588623c44e
#define sleep(x) Sleep(1000 * x)
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February 13, 2014, 04:01:37 AM
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Selling Point = CPU MINING ONLY.

Everyone have a reasonable CPU but not all have HIGH END GPU.

QUARK MINER will move to DRK after QRK reach no profitablity.

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February 13, 2014, 04:18:54 AM
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Hey eduffield (sorry if I'm spelling wrong going off memory). I'm tinkering with your sg miner trying to see if I can contribute to this. I'm away from home and thus toying around on a windows machine. I made a few changes but I can't compile it, I'm getting undefined reference to "sleep" errors. If memory serves me right you can't use sleep() in windows. It happens trying to compile the original files you posted. Have you attempted to build it in windows?

Do you know a workaround for this?

edit: compiling in MinGW, I'm not familiar with any others.
I tried to compile it tonight and got the same error. This helped me:

https://github.com/Niek/sgminer/commit/4e7c8a067223bb6b49791bf0ded1e3588623c44e
#define sleep(x) Sleep(1000 * x)

Leave it to windows to make it capital and use their own time.

Thank you, problem solved with one line.

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February 13, 2014, 04:31:26 AM
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hey guys
1. question, is DRK's programming actually finished with "encrypted transactions and anonymous block transactions" ??
sorry for the question, i am not the programmer guy who understands too much of the tech talk, but i read somewhere that this is the plan to do and have for DRK but it is not there yet !
could i get any feedback on this please ?
2. maybe we could split this thread into 2 groups
- DRK mining
- DRK general

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February 13, 2014, 04:39:52 AM
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hey guys
1. question, is DRK's programming actually finished with "encrypted transactions and anonymous block transactions" ??
sorry for the question, i am not the programmer guy who understands too much of the tech talk, but i read somewhere that this is the plan to do and have for DRK but it is not there yet !
could i get any feedback on this please ?
2. maybe we could split this thread into 2 groups
- DRK mining
- DRK general

Tx

We have NOT pushed the anon transactions out yet, we are working out a few very small bugs, we did a test yesterday and it was working very well. We just want to make sure its 100% before it goes live. We are trying to open an alpha test this weekend on the test network for users for more testing, stay tuned for further info.


DarkCoin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615 - DarkCoin aims to be the first privacy-centric cryptographic currency with fully encrypted transactions and anonymous block transactions.
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February 13, 2014, 05:20:37 AM
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hey guys
1. question, is DRK's programming actually finished with "encrypted transactions and anonymous block transactions" ??
sorry for the question, i am not the programmer guy who understands too much of the tech talk, but i read somewhere that this is the plan to do and have for DRK but it is not there yet !
could i get any feedback on this please ?
2. maybe we could split this thread into 2 groups
- DRK mining
- DRK general

Tx

We have NOT pushed the anon transactions out yet, we are working out a few very small bugs, we did a test yesterday and it was working very well. We just want to make sure its 100% before it goes live. We are trying to open an alpha test this weekend on the test network for users for more testing, stay tuned for further info.


great to hear! If you need testers I would love to be involved. I'm sure others here as well would help out. Amazing work from you guys!
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February 13, 2014, 05:56:26 AM
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Hey everyone. I have a newbie mining question.  I've been mining on the official pool for about 5 days now.  I was just checking out the other pools.  I looked in the pool and noticed that the coins earned at my current hashrate is almost double of what I have been earning on the official pool.  Why is that?  Are the estimates wrong?  If it's correct, please explain so I can understand why and I'll jump ship. Don't want to cut myself short.  lol. Thanks.
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February 13, 2014, 06:17:42 AM
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hey guys
1. question, is DRK's programming actually finished with "encrypted transactions and anonymous block transactions" ??
sorry for the question, i am not the programmer guy who understands too much of the tech talk, but i read somewhere that this is the plan to do and have for DRK but it is not there yet !
could i get any feedback on this please ?
2. maybe we could split this thread into 2 groups
- DRK mining
- DRK general

Tx

We have NOT pushed the anon transactions out yet, we are working out a few very small bugs, we did a test yesterday and it was working very well. We just want to make sure its 100% before it goes live. We are trying to open an alpha test this weekend on the test network for users for more testing, stay tuned for further info.


ok that is great news, tx for the update ….. am looking forward to hear further news. keep all of us posted regarding 'testers' as (i guess) we all in !

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