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July 30, 2014, 06:04:33 AM
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We saw a minor panic happen with XC remember.

I think there is more behind Cloak than XC but I don't see the big hook.  The white paper obfuscates on some important points and I can't see it offering a better solution than DRK, especially in the medium term.

I hold a bundle of DRK and don't mind admitting that I'm nervous but I'm holding.  Can't be bothered with riding pumps any more.

Evan could really do with having somebody assigned to do a bit of PR now and again.  
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July 30, 2014, 06:05:49 AM
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Smart money is dumping darkscam and investing in CLOAK.

bagholders will continue to drink the darkcoin kool-aid as it drops in price. CLOAK is rocketing straight to the top.

Dump Darkscam. Buy CLOAK.

Hows it feel to post in an unmoderated thread?

feels good man.

I actually feel bad for people who bought Darkcoin at ATH. Its a good concept and I wish you guys all the best.
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July 30, 2014, 06:06:55 AM
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Smart money is dumping darkscam and investing in CLOAK.

bagholders will continue to drink the darkcoin kool-aid as it drops in price. CLOAK is rocketing straight to the top.

Dump Darkscam. Buy CLOAK.

Hows it feel to post in an unmoderated thread?

feels good man.

I actually feel bad for people who bought Darkcoin at ATH. Its a good concept and I wish you guys all the best.

Yet you're encouraging people to buy cloak at its ath?
Dont forget cloak was 7 days only of mining. A couple of people hold 99% of the coins, hope theres enough buy support when they decide to dump.

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July 30, 2014, 06:10:52 AM
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It hurts a lot to see current DRK price. The constant drop of price is starting to wear my patience thin. If the price keeps falling below 700 mark then I would have no option left but to dump and say good bye

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July 30, 2014, 06:17:47 AM
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whut happen?

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July 30, 2014, 06:19:11 AM
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It hurts a lot to see current DRK price. The constant drop of price is starting to wear my patience thin. If the price keeps falling below 700 mark then I would have no option left but to dump and say good bye

Do it - sell your coins, if you aren't prepared to wait for quality. Sick of these impatient kids wanting price rises every hour or they sell.

Investing in DRK is more than just a pump train. Its investing and believing that DRK will change the crypto world as we know it.

I've been burnt on those stupid pumps before, I dont bother anymore.
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July 30, 2014, 06:20:38 AM
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Thank you El Presidente !!!

question, 11 in China ? Whow, that is impressive as i thought they are way to regulated to get DRK Masternodes off the ground there
or
might that be Hong Kong (which belongs to china, but has totally different regulations and freedom) Huh
do you have any specifics on this ?
Tx

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html?srch&nmstr=China

Code:
Xbx8VZiN9Y7HzronzzcNQGwJMvs5WMbJ2e	[1][2][3][4]	1	CNISP-Union Technology (Bei...	China	_._.212.159	-	-	nl	-	-	nl	6917/6918	35601/35600
XerHYJr3qZ6eqVdwkxaVjnpaKMEGSmSP21 [1][2][3][4] 3 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.166 + + + + + + 0/1 8729/29018
XfWPGJ8KkHKy34HGyyfY88qCaDRHrDmNuQ [1][2][3][4] 3 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.167 + + + + + + 4/4 8724/40240
XiYd88F159s4J6KmSnuhavCKQDsWMceDkt [1][2][3][4] 8 China Network Information C... China _._.210.233 + + + + + + 15/15 24632/24631
XjhT8zuFpZ51pgGffL9sWdo9YUKTRReTft [1][2][3][4] 2 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.163 + + + + + + 6/7 9885/47749
XmRLuQQkkos7zYjVaYghbK7VQSEmp7bnoi [1][2][3][4] 1 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.165 + + + + + + 2/2 8730/29018
Xo576yWc8xvzzQPKEwoZtb515m1dykRYtE [1][2][3][4] 2 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.164 + + + + + + 2/3 8732/29019
XpGnXwusb3y8KwxqdRRqzRu7LzxRpYfTE9 [1][2][3][4] 3 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.168 + + + + + + 4/4 9879/47656
Xpad4FFXcXr1MferfHkQ4Jva5VcWt7qxNh [1][2][3][4] 8 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.169 + + + + + + 17/17 8709/47625
XpqF8vETQ4B6Q5r2m1pzJy9FzijNn3KPCz [1][2][3][4] 4 CNISP-Union Technology (Bei... China _._.212.159 + + + + + + 9/9 6635/6635
XuQ7SX88Pq7dos8VMqD381D28uTUWhPHQ6 [1][2][3][4] 4 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.170 + + + + + + 1/1 8724/33190
XwjHP3m2oVpYmQGuceHkwo5uyTTyHeVhB3 [1][2][3][4] 5 China Network Information C... China _._.220.175 + + + + + + 11/12 24162/24162

Grin


EDIT:
Owner of masternodes at NET263 Group in China set up a new NM.

http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/Xjb4R3jiSi8dFuin7vaZynvus4t9sfp51m
Code:
Xjb4R3jiSi8dFuin7vaZynvus4t9sfp51m	[1][2][3][4]	0	NET263 Group in China.	China	_._.224.171	+	+	+	+	+	+	/	/

Thank you El Presidente
whow, that is very impressive !!
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July 30, 2014, 06:27:09 AM
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I went "all in" on DRK at .02, and I'm not the slightest bit concerned of not seeing an eventual rebound.  Actually if not for drk, my losses would be far more substantial as i was previously invested in vtc and doge, which have certainly tanked considerably more.  

That said, I remain largely apathetic about the recent drop given the coin's long term potential.  Whereas with doge and vtc it was  a source of stress.  I could probably sell now and catch the falling knife, but i will never miss a price spike if i never sell.  Instead I'm just gonna continuously throw 5% of my paycheck into drk until either development stagnates to the point it's effectively abandoned or the coin hits my initial buy in position.

DRK: Xi2c97ZMtfU2nMeJkY1kD1Ry3tmRnnQfHP
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July 30, 2014, 06:27:22 AM
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Smart money is dumping darkscam and investing in CLOAK.

bagholders will continue to drink the darkcoin kool-aid as it drops in price. CLOAK is rocketing straight to the top.

Dump Darkscam. Buy CLOAK.

Hows it feel to post in an unmoderated thread?

feels good man.

I actually feel bad for people who bought Darkcoin at ATH. Its a good concept and I wish you guys all the best.

Yet you're encouraging people to buy cloak at its ath?
Dont forget cloak was 7 days only of mining. A couple of people hold 99% of the coins, hope theres enough buy support when they decide to dump.



This is the reason why the altcoin market is losing volume, no coins can hold price very well. Apparently guldencoin is the most stable coin price wise atm.
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July 30, 2014, 06:29:32 AM
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Also people must expect wild wild wild price fluctuations at the moment with both DRK and Cloak, both with under 5 million coins, both markets easy to manipulate and both will never get real mainstream adoption because the coins are in too few hands. I am talking longterm Smiley
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July 30, 2014, 06:30:15 AM
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It hurts a lot to see current DRK price. The constant drop of price is starting to wear my patience thin. If the price keeps falling below 700 mark then I would have no option left but to dump and say good bye

Do it - sell your coins, if you aren't prepared to wait for quality. Sick of these impatient kids wanting price rises every hour or they sell.

Investing in DRK is more than just a pump train. Its investing and believing that DRK will change the crypto world as we know it.

I've been burnt on those stupid pumps before, I dont bother anymore.

Crypto world is stupiest invesment community i haver ever seen. And as stupid i do not mean that the stupiest do the worst trades.
Maybe these "stupids" made the most money - in short time.
Long term they destroy their own bread they are eating day by day.
Sell now and you get 50000 sat more than wait until its unter 700000.

Did you had a look to darkcointalk and are you able to see they progress that is done day by day.
For sure no !
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July 30, 2014, 06:30:28 AM
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whut happen?

We are waiting 2-4 more weeks for RC4. Well, some are. The others are leaving.

YOU ARE DEAD TO ME
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July 30, 2014, 06:30:40 AM
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I hope I've right
I'm going to sell all my Cloakcoins (temporary end to diversify)




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July 30, 2014, 06:33:00 AM
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I hope I've right
I'm going to sell all my Cloakcoins (temporary end to diversify)





You are right if you have made a profit, even if cloak goes up another 50%-100%, when DRK releases RC4, Cloak will drop like a brick and DRK will rise, when cloak brings out there next update, drk will crash and cloak will rise. That is the game my friends and those that don't have any emotional attachment to any coin end up winning.
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July 30, 2014, 06:34:56 AM
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I am sure the next big coin will have 2 million in total, then 1 million and then 500k. Since coins with less total supply are easier to manipulate price wise.
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July 30, 2014, 06:35:41 AM
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Shojayxt... im going to give you the same respect back.  First off,  im going to assume that your fairly intuitive,  and would figure that why would a person like me be on here.  You would probably guess that i to have my agenda sort of speak.   i did some very indept research and became acquainted to Evan and Internet Ape  and what the plan was going to be back in January,  though they had been working on it already alot earlier.

As part of my own private crypto investment group... we spent alot of time discussing not only darkcoin but several other potential coins.  It became evident that nothing had the robust vision that was being purposed by darkcoin.  we had as a collective a vast experience base in crypto investments.   One of the requirements we had was that we were looking for  long term solution to wto specific concerns to us,  security,  anonymous transactions as well as a look to coming out with  real world solutions for the retail  and merchant space.  Our collective groups background is from  IT and software engineering ,  mine was  having developed a software billing system for at&t and MCI, to retail merchants,  investment advisors and even a doctor.  This  gave us a great prospective on what it would take resource wise,  to tackle this.  We were also aware of what the development cycle would be like and the hurdles that were going to come.

To be honest... couple of things that irritated us was the advertising of firm dates on deliverables as we knew those virtually meant nothing due to the  nature of what was being proposed.   the  other thing that worried  us was the the meteoric price raise.   We could fore tell that this was going to be a recipe for trouble... and here we are.   Obviously no one is thrilled with the price drop that goes with out saying though  it was not unexpected.

I think there are those here that have done a deservice to this coin in the short haul buy shouting from roof  tops dates and price targets and when those  arent met less savey investors start to panic.  we had experienced this numerous times in BTC,  not certain if your familiar when BTC was at $22 then fell to $3.   this happened a number of times to BTC... drove people crazy. We knew what was  coming price wise fir dark,  because we saw it happen a number if times with Bitcoin.

Do I have doubts about Drk?  No way... because the fundamentals are still there  that we invested in... is the  pricing down trend irritating  yes.   Doubts,  we have non because we've collectively been here before,  we know what to  expect,  people like you doing what your doing.... we've seen it all before... and im sure we'll see many more of you.   Let me tell you and those  looking to invest on Darkcoin,  we knew to stay  invested in BTC at that time.  We heard  many like you ... dump BTC for  $3 like your advising to do now.  Never Mr.  Shojayxt.  Your right... im not a moron nor is  my investment  group,  we play to win Shojayxt... and we know  exactly what we're doing and why we are amassing darkcoins!  History again will prove me right.

Mr.  Shojayxt... we're not some kids throwing some dollars around. We are professional investors that know what the hell we're doing.  Collectively Between us... we hold a sizable chunk of this coin.  And let be me very frank with you Mr. Shojayxt... we didnt invest in this to just run this up to just $50/drk.  We can assure you we are in the next few years expecting far,  FAR bigger numbers.  So to investors in Darkcoin ... this is isnt a pump.  You figure out the  rest.  Richard


I think there are those here that have done a deservice to this coin in the short haul buy shouting from roof  tops dates and price targets

You have numerous individuals that do nothing more than brag about themselves and insult people.  That loser talking about buying a Tesla is one of the main offenders and is one of the reasons many people don't care for the Darkcoin community.  Talking about killing people and all that type of nonsense.

I have only been involved with crypto for about six months.  Darkcoin was the first coin I got into.  I made some money off Darkcoin but made the bulk of my newfound wealth off of what was called bitmonero when it was released.  I mined the crap out of that coin using EC2 instances right after it launched and nobody was mining it.  I am not a supporter of that coin because it's now completely manipulated by a few people.  I made a ton of money and that was my goal.

I am going to have to disagree with you about the future of Darkcoin or any other anonymous coin.  If they ever start to be used for any significant amount of transactions governments will try and put a stop to their use.  I'm not trying to promote any other coin I'm just making an example using another coin.  Say for instance governments crack down on the use of anonymous cryptocurrency.  If you were using a cryptonote coin it would be rather hard since there is no centralization.  The anonymity is built into the coin.   If you are using a coin that is not completely decentralized like Darkcoin using masternodes it will be easy for the government to shut it down.  If a US Attorney showed up at Amazon headquarters with a court order from a Federal Judge they would shut down every masternode using their services immediately.  This is one of the reasons I lost interest in Darkcoin.  Because it can either be shut down or monitored due to the masternode network.  I think it's a bad design with plenty of opportunity for exploits.  I liken every masternode as a potential point of attack.  Then couple that with the fact that there are people setting up masternodes that can't even keep malware off their home computer and the potential for exploits goes up significantly.  I seriously doubt Darkcoin will have any significance just six months from now.  At the end of the day it's still based off of old technology and something new will replace it.  Bitcoins only saving grace is the fact that it was first and will have already been widely adopted when a newer and better form of cryptocurrency comes along.  But in the end even Bitcoin will fade away replaced by something better.

Also the decision to take 20% from the miners as an incentive to operate a masternode was just plain wrong.  You now have a network where the wealthiest are literally taking money out of the pockets of the little guy.  And why are they getting 20% right now?  They're not doing anything except holding 1000 DRK.  Pay them when they start to actually perform the function they're intended to.   Add to that that the amount of actual masternode owners is a very small percentage of people invested in Darkcoin and you start to get  a coin and network that resembles the network of the big banks.  Darkcoin may not be centralized but it is definitely not decentralized.  I think the methodology used to achieve anonymity is flawed and can't be fixed.  Darkcoin has taken the wrong approach to achieve something and it's in too deep to turn back now.

The same can be said of the dominant cryptonote coin.  They talk a good talk but at the end of the day the bloated blockchain is not sustainable.

So now you know why I stopped being a Darkcoin supporter.  

I'll leave your thread alone for now mainly mainly because of your post but also because I actually feel sorry for the people that are deep underwater.  They're suffering enough as it is.  I don't need to pour salt in the wound.

Ouch!  

TIME   TYPE   PRICE (BTC)   DRK   BTC
2014-07-30 06:33:43   SELL   0.00725000   23.55829703   0.17079765
2014-07-30 06:33:43   SELL   0.00725000   258.09925787   1.87121961
2014-07-30 06:33:43   SELL   0.00725182   45.26639428   0.32826374









 
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July 30, 2014, 06:36:24 AM
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I am sure the next big coin will have 2 million in total, then 1 million and then 500k. Since coins with less total supply are easier to manipulate price wise.

And don't forget only 7 days of mining so a few people get ALL the coins, lets make it 5 days Smiley
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July 30, 2014, 06:38:22 AM
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I am sure the next big coin will have 2 million in total, then 1 million and then 500k. Since coins with less total supply are easier to manipulate price wise.

And don't forget only 7 days of mining so a few people get ALL the coins, lets make it 5 days Smiley

lol, that's it Smiley
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July 30, 2014, 06:41:04 AM
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I'll leave your thread alone for now mainly mainly because of your post but also because I actually feel sorry for the people that are deep underwater.  They're suffering enough as it is.  I don't need to pour salt in the wound.


Finally, can you please substitute the word "now" to forever?
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July 30, 2014, 06:51:58 AM
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Sell low, buy high.

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