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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722683 times)
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November 04, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
Last edit: November 04, 2014, 06:20:58 PM by eduffield
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looks like you can grab it from github already .. but lets wait till Evan gives an official announcement.

Feel free to start updating. I'm just compiling it and writing the announcement.

edit: v0.10.15.19 is out. Added a bit of debugging and another sanity check

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November 04, 2014, 05:51:41 PM
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looks like you can grab it from github already .. but lets wait till Evan gives an official announcement.

Feel free to start updating. I'm just compiling it and writing the announcement.

thanks

first one to update gets a cybercookie

edit : to avoid any confusion about the word cookie .. i mean one of these :




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November 04, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
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is it possible to burn drk for drk 2.0 to get rid of old clients and start fresh?

its not a real proposal, just wondering if its technically possible.

Each protocol bump should kick everything else off the network, and thus be a fresh start.

This enforcement thing has been holding back development since May. The current mining architecture just isn't a good fit for what Darkcoin is trying to achieve.

I have proposed making mining via Masternodes mandatory many times, and just get called a 'Nazi' and a 'retarded fucking Jew' (by the same people... Roll Eyes) - the nearest I've had to a sensible argument against it is that pools need beefier hardware than Masternodes, but why not require pools to obtain compliance tokens from Masternodes first that are required for a block to be accepted?

There are lots of ways it could be done but nobody seems interested.

I am more and more coming to believe that PoW is a dead end. Centralised pools do not secure the network, they are a security liability. Nobody wants to talk about it. Mining costs do not translate into coin value. Nobody wants to admit it. For the last six months PoW has just held back development, it has done nothing whatsoever to add value.

Shifting block reward in favour of Proof of Service is a good move, but the timeframe is too long and it's meaningless if PoW can still fuck things up.

PoW has been a spanner in the works for half a year now, my fear is that it is also going to make InstanTX unworkable as well.

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Couldn't agree more!
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November 04, 2014, 06:09:30 PM
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is it possible to burn drk for drk 2.0 to get rid of old clients and start fresh?

its not a real proposal, just wondering if its technically possible.

Each protocol bump should kick everything else off the network, and thus be a fresh start.

This enforcement thing has been holding back development since May. The current mining architecture just isn't a good fit for what Darkcoin is trying to achieve.

I have proposed making mining via Masternodes mandatory many times, and just get called a 'Nazi' and a 'retarded fucking Jew' (by the same people... Roll Eyes) - the nearest I've had to a sensible argument against it is that pools need beefier hardware than Masternodes, but why not require pools to obtain compliance tokens from Masternodes first that are required for a block to be accepted?

There are lots of ways it could be done but nobody seems interested.

I am more and more coming to believe that PoW is a dead end. Centralised pools do not secure the network, they are a security liability. Nobody wants to talk about it. Mining costs do not translate into coin value. Nobody wants to admit it. For the last six months PoW has just held back development, it has done nothing whatsoever to add value.

Shifting block reward in favour of Proof of Service is a good move, but the timeframe is too long and it's meaningless if PoW can still fuck things up.

PoW has been a spanner in the works for half a year now, my fear is that it is also going to make InstanTX unworkable as well.

BUMP BUMP BUMP

Couldn't agree more!


This would cause an immediate hard fork. All new clients would only talk amongst themselves and the old ones would still be mining. Mining pools for example, would need to update the moment it came out to avoid 100% of their blocks getting orphaned.

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November 04, 2014, 06:12:05 PM
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This would cause an immediate hard fork. All new clients would only talk amongst themselves and the old ones would still be mining. Mining pools for example, would need to update the moment it came out to avoid 100% of their blocks getting orphaned.

You say that like it's a bad thing...  Grin
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November 04, 2014, 06:16:28 PM
Last edit: November 04, 2014, 06:28:39 PM by qwizzie
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See link on reddit , someone (not me !!) has been naughty .. copying & pasting some really goodddd stuff Smiley


Darkcoin's Lead Dev on InstantX: "turns out the strategy I have definitely works and it's powerful"
https://www.zerobin.net/?a7f80c8d66a93e7e#QgfUa8MNXzHM03jkwK0dC1TK8w46yoozfAl3I4zn4J0=


Good to hear a lot of the code (100% to be precise) for Instant TX has been developed already, cant wait for the testing
to begin in a few weeks.

edit : i think my cybercookie has to go to DrCrypto .. sorry guys

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November 04, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
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If 100% of the code is ready then why testing in a few weeks and not tomorrow?
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November 04, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
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If 100% of the code is ready then why testing in a few weeks and not tomorrow?

still in bug squatting phase i suspect, basicly the internal test phase. And you need a stable network,
we are in the middle of a network update right now.

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November 04, 2014, 06:45:52 PM
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If 100% of the code is ready then why testing in a few weeks and not tomorrow?
It will be testing on testnet, if the test its a bad fork could be a problem for us

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November 04, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
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If 100% of the code is ready then why testing in a few weeks and not tomorrow?
It will be testing on testnet, if the test its a bad fork could be a problem for us

yep.. basicly its :

code developing
self-checking code
testing code on testnet
bringing code onto mainnet.

edit : code for Instant TX doesnt need a fork by the way...

[11:52:12] <@evan82> oblox2, InstantX isn't going to use a fork at all actually
[11:52:30] <@evan82> I managed to figure out how to do it without one


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November 04, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
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Testnet of course. Just was not sure why in few weeks.
Anyway, sounds familiar?

https://twitter.com/fernando/status/529703370979041280
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November 04, 2014, 07:08:25 PM
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i think we are slowly entering a phase where Darkcoin will be a lot more discussed in the media and by other groups .. our little innercircle will be getting wider and wider.

edit : also a lot more discussion and attention for Darknet in general and Bazaar, even the European Union is starting up a group focussed on Darknet.

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November 04, 2014, 07:17:41 PM
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We’ll be launching a new test this Friday the 7th, which is v0.10.15.19 for masternode payments. Please update to the newest version of the software to avoid being lost on an incorrect chain.

Source:
https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin

Linux:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.10.15.19-linux.tar.gz

Mac:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.10.15.19-osx.dmg

Windows:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.10.15.19-win.zip

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November 04, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
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We’ll be launching a new test this Friday the 7th, which is v0.10.15.19 for masternode payments. Please update to the newest version of the software to avoid being lost on an incorrect chain.

Source:
https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin

Linux:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.10.15.19-linux.tar.gz

Mac:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.10.15.19-osx.dmg

Windows:
https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.10.15.19-win.zip
All user or only masternodes?

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November 04, 2014, 07:20:58 PM
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IntantTX code done?

Taking bets on how long before JL is back  Grin
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November 04, 2014, 07:23:38 PM
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looks like you can grab it from github already .. but lets wait till Evan gives an official announcement.

Feel free to start updating. I'm just compiling it and writing the announcement.

edit: v0.10.15.19 is out. Added a bit of debugging and another sanity check

www.darkcoin.io still has v17 binaries

Compiles fine from  https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin



oops, binaries now up on darkcoin.io!
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November 04, 2014, 07:26:01 PM
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i think we are slowly entering a phase where Darkcoin will be a lot more discussed in the media and by other groups .. our little innercircle will be getting wider and wider.

edit : also a lot more discussion and attention for Darknet in general and Bazaar, even the European Union is starting up a group focussed on Darknet.

the "minister" for that would be Öttinger.

if you speak german: here is everything you need to know: http://youtu.be/jsbV3fGe4eU
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

un-propper translation:

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Dear Mr. Ötting. uhm, Ötinger, Are you for the "right to forget" on the internetz?
Including
- that you held a speech where you tried to paint a Nazi-judge as a hero?
- your attempt to ban motorcycles?
- (german related story / "stuttgart21 -> Einkaufszentrum")
- your famous speech: "it is a bad thing that there isnt any war at the moment"
- that you had to dispence your driver's licence becouse you where cought with 1.4°%
....


edit:
but i´m realy looking forward to openBazar.
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November 04, 2014, 07:29:36 PM
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i think we are slowly entering a phase where Darkcoin will be a lot more discussed in the media and by other groups .. our little innercircle will be getting wider and wider.

edit : also a lot more discussion and attention for Darknet in general and Bazaar, even the European Union is starting up a group focussed on Darknet.

Yes and let's all remember to be extra nice and welcoming and patient when all the n00bs come on here and ask stupid questions  Wink

The new generation have arrived and they brought their own currency...
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November 04, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
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i think we are slowly entering a phase where Darkcoin will be a lot more discussed in the media and by other groups .. our little innercircle will be getting wider and wider.

edit : also a lot more discussion and attention for Darknet in general and Bazaar, even the European Union is starting up a group focussed on Darknet.

Yes and let's all remember to be extra nice and welcoming and patient when all the n00bs come on here and ask stupid questions  Wink

Lets practice.

Whats a masternode and don't they mean Darkcoin is centralised?
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November 04, 2014, 07:39:47 PM
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i think we are slowly entering a phase where Darkcoin will be a lot more discussed in the media and by other groups .. our little innercircle will be getting wider and wider.

edit : also a lot more discussion and attention for Darknet in general and Bazaar, even the European Union is starting up a group focussed on Darknet.

Yes and let's all remember to be extra nice and welcoming and patient when all the n00bs come on here and ask stupid questions  Wink

Lets practice.

Whats a masternode and don't they mean Darkcoin is centralised?

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I'm getting an error when trying to send funds, it says I don't have enough Darksend balance but I can see I have enough coins  Wink

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