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Author Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com  (Read 465714 times)
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March 17, 2014, 07:06:51 PM
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I think the catcoin was mined yesterday. If its not handled automatically by tomorrow I'll look into it (might just be confirming still - takes a decent bit to dig in).

As for mintcoin, still holding out hope, the guy keeps posting that he's working on getting the stuck withdrawals fixed (ours is this).  So maybe it will fix itself.  I've been holding off removing them and writing it off for now, cause its going to be a bitch to remove and then re-add.  For now, we'll wait about 1 more weke and then handle it.
I recall the catcoin being around for several days, but I could be remembering incorrectly.

Ahh, didn't keep up with the coinmarket happenings well enough.  I thought the coins were just sitting on the exchange, not stuck pending withdrawal.  Considering how much value the mintcoin has lost, I'd suggest the pool  take it as a bonus and sit on it for a while (and earn some PoS rewards) to see if the price climbs again with the  coin pure PoS.
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March 17, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
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<I haven't got a clue what I'm talking about but I'll just make something up>

See what I did there? ^

And I ain't pissed. I couldn't care less if he's there or not, as the 1.25 multiplier is good enough for me anyway.
All I did was stating a fact, all you did was look at the last 100 blocks they mined and came to a very poor conclusion.
If I cared enough I'd wait for a few hours and than point out how the pool is only above the 45GH/s mark (half of the current log is already like that) and how right I am, but I don't care that much.
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March 17, 2014, 07:38:11 PM
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cat-watching-a-movie-via-Shutterstock-615x345.jpg

bring the drama !
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March 17, 2014, 07:52:04 PM
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Your logic makes absolutely no sense.  We've only seen just under 20GH/s from sfire around here.  So using your numbers (if they are true -- I'm not going to check them because it's not necessary in order to make this point), during the 12.8% of the time that the pool was slightly above 25GH/s, he was not causing the multiplier to drop.  During the 45.2% of the time it was below 25GH/s, he was not causing the multiplier to drop.  And during the 42% of the time that it was above 45GH/s, he still wasn't causing the multiplier to drop!  If you're to make any case at all, you need to be focusing on the times the pool hashpower was just UNDER 45GH/s, and then your argument would have a leg to stand on, but even then, he can mine wherever the heck is most profitable for himself, as he made investments in equipment just like we all did.  You're not special.  (unless you choose to pronounce it the funny way.)


Aha. So just under 20GH/s according to you? Because on waffle (and that's the fact I got in my head) every time he joins the pools GH increases by 23~

I'll even make it easy for you:

Step 1: Go here: http://wafflepool.com/stats and do the average for Mar 11, 2014, Mar 12, 2014, Mar 13, 2014, Mar 14, 2014, Mar 15, 2014 and than subtract the pools average without him.
*Keep in mind that on Mar 14th the pools hashrate was at an awkward average, so if you decide to include it you'll get 20.6, if you don't you'll get: 22.5 (pool averages at 12~ when he isn't around).

Step 2: Reread your post and realize that either way he doesn't contribute less than 20GH/s to waffle unless he has extra GH/s orbiting him because he's a fucking planet.

Step 3: Understand that the 45GH nor the 25GH I wrote were absolute, and how could they be? They should easily be referred to as 42GH-46GH and 23GH-25GH. So if it was 24.97 to 43.32 than it would be a difference of 18.35 which would fit whatever.

Step 4: Admit that you were wrong and all is forgiven.
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March 17, 2014, 07:52:07 PM
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bring the drama !

Do you really think we need a picture of a cat around here?

The internet gives everyone a place to voice their opinion.  The problem is everyone has an opinion.  And some have pictures of cats.


At least is Drama in 3D! Smiley

LPC! Smiley
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March 17, 2014, 07:53:04 PM
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bring the drama !

Do you really think we need a picture of a cat around here?

The internet gives everyone a place to voice their opinion.  The problem is everyone has an opinion.  And some have pictures of cats.


My opinion is:  I like the picture...  Wink
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March 17, 2014, 08:02:10 PM
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Your logic makes absolutely no sense.  We've only seen just under 20GH/s from sfire around here.  So using your numbers (if they are true -- I'm not going to check them because it's not necessary in order to make this point), during the 12.8% of the time that the pool was slightly above 25GH/s, he was not causing the multiplier to drop.  During the 45.2% of the time it was below 25GH/s, he was not causing the multiplier to drop.  And during the 42% of the time that it was above 45GH/s, he still wasn't causing the multiplier to drop!  If you're to make any case at all, you need to be focusing on the times the pool hashpower was just UNDER 45GH/s, and then your argument would have a leg to stand on, but even then, he can mine wherever the heck is most profitable for himself, as he made investments in equipment just like we all did.  You're not special.  (unless you choose to pronounce it the funny way.)


Aha. So just under 20GH/s according to you? Because on waffle (and that's the fact I got in my head) every time he joins the pools GH increases by 23~

I'll even make it easy for you:

Step 1: Go here: http://wafflepool.com/stats and do the average for Mar 11, 2014, Mar 12, 2014, Mar 13, 2014, Mar 14, 2014, Mar 15, 2014 and than subtract the pools average without him.
*Keep in mind that on Mar 14th the pools hashrate was at an awkward average, so if you decide to include it you'll get 20.6, if you don't you'll get: 22.5 (pool averages at 12~ when he isn't around).

Step 2: Reread your post and realize that either way he doesn't contribute less than 20GH/s to waffle unless he has extra GH/s orbiting him because he's a fucking planet.

Step 3: Understand that the 45GH nor the 25GH I wrote were absolute, and how could they be? They should easily be referred to as 42GH-46GH and 23GH-25GH.

Step 4: Admit that you were wrong and all is forgiven.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein (c).

Why would nobody else have left wafflepool for 125-200% at ghash.io?  You are forming a conclusion and searching for data to support it.  And where you cannot find any, you are just making some up.

And in doing so, you are proving Einstein correct.  It was convenient for you to include his statement in your post.

I will counter your Einstein with Hawking.  The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge.
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March 17, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
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You are forming a conclusion and searching for data to support it.  And where you cannot find any, you are just making some up.

And in doing so, you are proving Einstein correct.  It was convenient for you to include his statement in your post.

Didn't make anything up, I even spoon fed you the data. Guess it was to much for you to handle. Can't blame you though, math is hard, especially when you need to add up more than 2 numbers, and than even divide!
Next time I'll try and draw pictures for you, maybe it'll help.

Why would nobody else have left wafflepool for 125-200% at ghash.io?
Some did, it could very well be that in the average of mine some MH of it are of random people (actually quite plausible) but how many, I dunno, that's why I did average, to see the big swings, which is more than likely cause by the 1 guy.

Could be that he has exactly 20GHs and than the 0.6 GH- 2.5GH is caused by random miners. Doesn't change much though.
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March 17, 2014, 08:32:40 PM
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You are forming a conclusion and searching for data to support it.  And where you cannot find any, you are just making some up.

And in doing so, you are proving Einstein correct.  It was convenient for you to include his statement in your post.

Didn't make anything up, I even spoon fed you the data. Guess it was to much for you to handle. Can't blame you though, math is hard, especially when you need to add up more than 2 numbers, and than even divide!
Next time I'll try and draw pictures for you, maybe it'll help.

Why would nobody else have left wafflepool for 125-200% at ghash.io?
Some did, it could very well be that in the average of mine some MH of it are of random people (actually quite plausible) but how many, I dunno, that's why I did average, to see the big swings, which is more than likely cause by the 1 guy.

Could be that he has exactly 20GHs and than the 0.6 GH- 2.5GH is caused by random miners. Doesn't change much though.

Thank you for reminding me why I should not continue to waste my time on these forums.  I have encountered some very intelligent people here, but you are most certainly not one of them.  They have also shown themselves to be smarter than me, for I was stupid enough to engage you.  Best of luck to you in your life.  You're going to need it with that inflated ego (unwarranted) and sense of entitlement (to larger bonuses at ghash and presumably elsewhere).
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March 17, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
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Thank you for reminding me why I should not continue to waste my time on these forums.  I have encountered some very intelligent people here, but you are most certainly not one of them.  They have also shown themselves to be smarter than me, for I was stupid enough to engage you.  Best of luck to you in your life.  You're going to need it with that inflated ego (unwarranted) and sense of entitlement (to larger bonuses at ghash and presumably elsewhere).

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March 17, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
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Thank you for reminding me why I should not continue to waste my time on these forums.  I have encountered some very intelligent people here, but you are most certainly not one of them.  They have also shown themselves to be smarter than me, for I was stupid enough to engage you.  Best of luck to you in your life.  You're going to need it with that inflated ego (unwarranted) and sense of entitlement (to larger bonuses at ghash and presumably elsewhere).



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March 17, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
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Thank you for reminding me why I should not continue to waste my time on these forums.  I have encountered some very intelligent people here, but you are most certainly not one of them.  They have also shown themselves to be smarter than me, for I was stupid enough to engage you.  Best of luck to you in your life.  You're going to need it with that inflated ego (unwarranted) and sense of entitlement (to larger bonuses at ghash and presumably elsewhere).




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March 17, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
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Please, gentlemen, lets not turn this thread into the MC thread all over again.

If you feel I helped:
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March 17, 2014, 09:11:29 PM
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Please, gentlemen, lets not turn this thread into the MC thread all over again.
My apologizes, I'll stop now.
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March 17, 2014, 09:15:36 PM
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What?  Waffle isn't mining on GHash.

I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.
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March 17, 2014, 09:26:50 PM
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What?  Waffle isn't mining on GHash.

I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.

When we were mining on GHash, the hashrate was counted on the pool locally as well (we recorded the proxied shares as local shares). Smiley
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March 17, 2014, 09:28:24 PM
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What?  Waffle isn't mining on GHash.

I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.

When we were mining on GHash, the hashrate was counted on the pool locally as well (we recorded the proxied shares as local shares). Smiley

No issue eating crow. lol.  Grin
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March 17, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
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I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.
It's a Chinese group - they have posted on these forums as 'sfire' - that is moving the ~20GH/s back and forth.  PoolWaffle disabled proxying to GHash as soon as they implemented the tiered bonus scheme.

@PoolWaffle: WafflePool's profitability does seem to consistently climb a bit whenever sfire leaves.  Is this really just due to luck?  Seems weird to me.
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March 17, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
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Jerry Jones is one ugly motherfucker.
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March 17, 2014, 09:37:34 PM
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Any special reason their hasnt been any payouts today?

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