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For how long do you think collect 3 BTC?
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July 29, 2014, 06:56:52 PM |
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so you want 3 btc out of us?? to sort your problems??
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July 29, 2014, 07:24:38 PM |
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To further add on my post, because I feel I threw an alternative that wouldn't be realizable. I'm currently one of the top 3 holders of emc2, if I were to make a sizable donation based on what I own, it would still be quite a bit less than the amount needed. So, at the current market value, it's a great amount to raise, what I own right now used to be worth about 20k, I think everyone here is in a similar boat, further investment from current holders has incentive, but at another risk for a more than comfortable chuck of what their investment is currently worth. It's not that 3btc is a big fee, it's just a fee the community isn't really able to absorb at the current market value.
So here's my suggestion. Why not make the new Dev the recipient of the next (or 2) wormholes? It gives him incentive to do a good job, it potentially gives him more money than the flat 3btc fee, and it's actually realizable. And it also goes towards "helping science" if it's funding a system TO fun science.
The reason we chose BTC instead of a EMC2 donation is because of current market value. The developer needs money right now in order to pay for the time it will take to begin to implement the changes. Upon payment receipt, it will be the his decision to buy back into the coin while prices are still cheap. Otherwise, the rest he can cash out to pay his bills. If we pay him 3btc in EMC2 directly, it would take a sizable portion from myself or from holders and it's just not a very reasonable decision at current market rates. It's not only not a reasonable decision for you OR anyone else at current market rate. You have to ask yourself, why would someone take a risk and pay BTC to make their past investment worth a little more when they've already lost so much. It's 1 thing to Baghold until now, it's another thing to Baghold until now AND further pay. Besides, I'm not sure emc2 community currently has the confidence to send 3btc blindly. I'm not coming at you or anything, but things went sideways here, some things were planned and never ended happening and you were recently associated with a potential scam (like I said, I'm not coming at you, I think I actually like you). But I'm stating the current facts. 3btc collected just isn't happening. It has nothing to do with how strong this community is or not, this community just isn't in a state where it can do that. Your most loyal community members and biggest pockets already your post, I think it has been established that for no one thinks it's worth the risk / reward. So used your time wisely and don't waste it waiting on that 3btc filled and come up with another proposition. Maybe try to make my suggestion or something of the sort work out, or come up with something entirely different, or a Dev that would accept such a position without cash up front. And beyond the scope of the rest of my post, usually someone gets paid after the work is done, I'm not exactly sure why we're hanged by the balls and that it should be any different especially in a bitcoin world known for scams and jobs unfinished.
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Oldminer
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July 29, 2014, 08:49:29 PM |
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I vote not to pay.
We need to find another way around the obstacles. We cant be buying our way out every time.
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July 29, 2014, 09:17:46 PM |
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Here's one proposition.
Stop messing with the coin and start funding science.
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July 29, 2014, 09:39:41 PM |
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lol, no Buy Orders in cryptsy still holding oh yeah, I'm a great investor get 600, and hold to ~40 ahahaha
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July 29, 2014, 10:20:15 PM |
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Here's one proposition.
Stop messing with the coin and start funding science.
+1 Wow someone is done 40sat... 1.6btc
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July 29, 2014, 10:26:17 PM |
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I hope you guys listened to me when I told yall to pick up cloakcoin at 20K satoshi.
I really love this community so I really hope you guys did.
Cloakcoin today :0.00180833
Next stop 300K
then 500K
then 1Million Satoshi.
Its not to late boys and girls.
Good luck and god speed.
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July 29, 2014, 10:32:27 PM |
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I hope you guys listened to me when I told yall to pick up cloakcoin at 20K satoshi.
I really love this community so I really hope you guys did.
Cloakcoin today :0.00180833
Next stop 300K
then 500K
then 1Million Satoshi.
Its not to late boys and girls.
Good luck and god speed.
cloak will crash can u say manipulation?
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Bobsurplus
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July 29, 2014, 10:36:51 PM |
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I'll remind you of this when we get to 500K
I'll have to add you to the list though because I have about 30 people to remind.
Don't you get it, cloakcoin is the biggest innovation to crypto since btc!
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July 30, 2014, 01:19:13 AM |
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I'll remind you of this when we get to 500K
I'll have to add you to the list though because I have about 30 people to remind.
Don't you get it, cloakcoin is the biggest innovation to crypto since btc!
yup for u and about 10 others
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July 30, 2014, 03:59:26 AM |
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To further add on my post, because I feel I threw an alternative that wouldn't be realizable. I'm currently one of the top 3 holders of emc2, if I were to make a sizable donation based on what I own, it would still be quite a bit less than the amount needed. So, at the current market value, it's a great amount to raise, what I own right now used to be worth about 20k, I think everyone here is in a similar boat, further investment from current holders has incentive, but at another risk for a more than comfortable chuck of what their investment is currently worth. It's not that 3btc is a big fee, it's just a fee the community isn't really able to absorb at the current market value.
So here's my suggestion. Why not make the new Dev the recipient of the next (or 2) wormholes? It gives him incentive to do a good job, it potentially gives him more money than the flat 3btc fee, and it's actually realizable. And it also goes towards "helping science" if it's funding a system TO fun science.
The reason we chose BTC instead of a EMC2 donation is because of current market value. The developer needs money right now in order to pay for the time it will take to begin to implement the changes. Upon payment receipt, it will be the his decision to buy back into the coin while prices are still cheap. Otherwise, the rest he can cash out to pay his bills. If we pay him 3btc in EMC2 directly, it would take a sizable portion from myself or from holders and it's just not a very reasonable decision at current market rates. It's not only not a reasonable decision for you OR anyone else at current market rate. You have to ask yourself, why would someone take a risk and pay BTC to make their past investment worth a little more when they've already lost so much. It's 1 thing to Baghold until now, it's another thing to Baghold until now AND further pay. Besides, I'm not sure emc2 community currently has the confidence to send 3btc blindly. I'm not coming at you or anything, but things went sideways here, some things were planned and never ended happening and you were recently associated with a potential scam (like I said, I'm not coming at you, I think I actually like you). But I'm stating the current facts. 3btc collected just isn't happening. It has nothing to do with how strong this community is or not, this community just isn't in a state where it can do that. Your most loyal community members and biggest pockets already your post, I think it has been established that for no one thinks it's worth the risk / reward. So used your time wisely and don't waste it waiting on that 3btc filled and come up with another proposition. Maybe try to make my suggestion or something of the sort work out, or come up with something entirely different, or a Dev that would accept such a position without cash up front. And beyond the scope of the rest of my post, usually someone gets paid after the work is done, I'm not exactly sure why we're hanged by the balls and that it should be any different especially in a bitcoin world known for scams and jobs unfinished. I agree that the community is not really where it should be for us to collect the money. Not only that, but forking a coin a changing its fundamentals usually kills it all together. The switch to PoS will not increase our value. It's taken me a bit of humility and learning, but I've come to decide that we need to change direction with this coin. What we really need is a new system for donating to science. Switching algo may be something that can come a little down the line, but at our current state it may be best to refocus on what we are really supposed to be doing with EMC2. My goal now is for Einsteinium is to create a website much like Kickstarter or Experiment.com specifically geared for funding science projects with crypto. People will be able to create projects and receive votes / funding directly in EMC2. Above that, it's time that we rebuild our coin team from the ground up. I will update very soon.
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July 30, 2014, 04:33:05 AM |
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I'll remind you of this when we get to 500K
I'll have to add you to the list though because I have about 30 people to remind.
Don't you get it, cloakcoin is the biggest innovation to crypto since btc!
You're going to regret putting your life savings into cloak when cape gets released. Same article with ten times the class. EDIT: M'lady.
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July 30, 2014, 05:38:29 AM |
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http://dutchpool.org now also offers EMC2, running NOMP pool at only 1% fee, all pools using vardfiff, no signup needed.
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djnocide
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July 30, 2014, 02:17:15 PM |
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To further add on my post, because I feel I threw an alternative that wouldn't be realizable. I'm currently one of the top 3 holders of emc2, if I were to make a sizable donation based on what I own, it would still be quite a bit less than the amount needed. So, at the current market value, it's a great amount to raise, what I own right now used to be worth about 20k, I think everyone here is in a similar boat, further investment from current holders has incentive, but at another risk for a more than comfortable chuck of what their investment is currently worth. It's not that 3btc is a big fee, it's just a fee the community isn't really able to absorb at the current market value.
So here's my suggestion. Why not make the new Dev the recipient of the next (or 2) wormholes? It gives him incentive to do a good job, it potentially gives him more money than the flat 3btc fee, and it's actually realizable. And it also goes towards "helping science" if it's funding a system TO fun science.
The reason we chose BTC instead of a EMC2 donation is because of current market value. The developer needs money right now in order to pay for the time it will take to begin to implement the changes. Upon payment receipt, it will be the his decision to buy back into the coin while prices are still cheap. Otherwise, the rest he can cash out to pay his bills. If we pay him 3btc in EMC2 directly, it would take a sizable portion from myself or from holders and it's just not a very reasonable decision at current market rates. It's not only not a reasonable decision for you OR anyone else at current market rate. You have to ask yourself, why would someone take a risk and pay BTC to make their past investment worth a little more when they've already lost so much. It's 1 thing to Baghold until now, it's another thing to Baghold until now AND further pay. Besides, I'm not sure emc2 community currently has the confidence to send 3btc blindly. I'm not coming at you or anything, but things went sideways here, some things were planned and never ended happening and you were recently associated with a potential scam (like I said, I'm not coming at you, I think I actually like you). But I'm stating the current facts. 3btc collected just isn't happening. It has nothing to do with how strong this community is or not, this community just isn't in a state where it can do that. Your most loyal community members and biggest pockets already your post, I think it has been established that for no one thinks it's worth the risk / reward. So used your time wisely and don't waste it waiting on that 3btc filled and come up with another proposition. Maybe try to make my suggestion or something of the sort work out, or come up with something entirely different, or a Dev that would accept such a position without cash up front. And beyond the scope of the rest of my post, usually someone gets paid after the work is done, I'm not exactly sure why we're hanged by the balls and that it should be any different especially in a bitcoin world known for scams and jobs unfinished. I agree that the community is not really where it should be for us to collect the money. Not only that, but forking a coin a changing its fundamentals usually kills it all together. The switch to PoS will not increase our value. It's taken me a bit of humility and learning, but I've come to decide that we need to change direction with this coin. What we really need is a new system for donating to science. Switching algo may be something that can come a little down the line, but at our current state it may be best to refocus on what we are really supposed to be doing with EMC2. My goal now is for Einsteinium is to create a website much like Kickstarter or Experiment.com specifically geared for funding science projects with crypto. People will be able to create projects and receive votes / funding directly in EMC2. Above that, it's time that we rebuild our coin team from the ground up. I will update very soon. We should create a ''how-to'' to give with the EMC2, to help those that are not familiar with CC. Good decision, not let focus on reaching the scientific community. This coin is for them, so let them know we exist.
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July 30, 2014, 03:16:53 PM |
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To further add on my post, because I feel I threw an alternative that wouldn't be realizable. I'm currently one of the top 3 holders of emc2, if I were to make a sizable donation based on what I own, it would still be quite a bit less than the amount needed. So, at the current market value, it's a great amount to raise, what I own right now used to be worth about 20k, I think everyone here is in a similar boat, further investment from current holders has incentive, but at another risk for a more than comfortable chuck of what their investment is currently worth. It's not that 3btc is a big fee, it's just a fee the community isn't really able to absorb at the current market value.
So here's my suggestion. Why not make the new Dev the recipient of the next (or 2) wormholes? It gives him incentive to do a good job, it potentially gives him more money than the flat 3btc fee, and it's actually realizable. And it also goes towards "helping science" if it's funding a system TO fun science.
The reason we chose BTC instead of a EMC2 donation is because of current market value. The developer needs money right now in order to pay for the time it will take to begin to implement the changes. Upon payment receipt, it will be the his decision to buy back into the coin while prices are still cheap. Otherwise, the rest he can cash out to pay his bills. If we pay him 3btc in EMC2 directly, it would take a sizable portion from myself or from holders and it's just not a very reasonable decision at current market rates. It's not only not a reasonable decision for you OR anyone else at current market rate. You have to ask yourself, why would someone take a risk and pay BTC to make their past investment worth a little more when they've already lost so much. It's 1 thing to Baghold until now, it's another thing to Baghold until now AND further pay. Besides, I'm not sure emc2 community currently has the confidence to send 3btc blindly. I'm not coming at you or anything, but things went sideways here, some things were planned and never ended happening and you were recently associated with a potential scam (like I said, I'm not coming at you, I think I actually like you). But I'm stating the current facts. 3btc collected just isn't happening. It has nothing to do with how strong this community is or not, this community just isn't in a state where it can do that. Your most loyal community members and biggest pockets already your post, I think it has been established that for no one thinks it's worth the risk / reward. So used your time wisely and don't waste it waiting on that 3btc filled and come up with another proposition. Maybe try to make my suggestion or something of the sort work out, or come up with something entirely different, or a Dev that would accept such a position without cash up front. And beyond the scope of the rest of my post, usually someone gets paid after the work is done, I'm not exactly sure why we're hanged by the balls and that it should be any different especially in a bitcoin world known for scams and jobs unfinished. I agree that the community is not really where it should be for us to collect the money. Not only that, but forking a coin a changing its fundamentals usually kills it all together. The switch to PoS will not increase our value. It's taken me a bit of humility and learning, but I've come to decide that we need to change direction with this coin. What we really need is a new system for donating to science. Switching algo may be something that can come a little down the line, but at our current state it may be best to refocus on what we are really supposed to be doing with EMC2. My goal now is for Einsteinium is to create a website much like Kickstarter or Experiment.com specifically geared for funding science projects with crypto. People will be able to create projects and receive votes / funding directly in EMC2. Above that, it's time that we rebuild our coin team from the ground up. I will update very soon. We should create a ''how-to'' to give with the EMC2, to help those that are not familiar with CC. Good decision, not let focus on reaching the scientific community. This coin is for them, so let them know we exist. +1 Also, does someone still have access to the twitter account? Might be a good time to start sending tweets to remind the community that we are still here!
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ahumanbeingx
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July 30, 2014, 04:41:57 PM |
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To further add on my post, because I feel I threw an alternative that wouldn't be realizable. I'm currently one of the top 3 holders of emc2, if I were to make a sizable donation based on what I own, it would still be quite a bit less than the amount needed. So, at the current market value, it's a great amount to raise, what I own right now used to be worth about 20k, I think everyone here is in a similar boat, further investment from current holders has incentive, but at another risk for a more than comfortable chuck of what their investment is currently worth. It's not that 3btc is a big fee, it's just a fee the community isn't really able to absorb at the current market value.
So here's my suggestion. Why not make the new Dev the recipient of the next (or 2) wormholes? It gives him incentive to do a good job, it potentially gives him more money than the flat 3btc fee, and it's actually realizable. And it also goes towards "helping science" if it's funding a system TO fun science.
The reason we chose BTC instead of a EMC2 donation is because of current market value. The developer needs money right now in order to pay for the time it will take to begin to implement the changes. Upon payment receipt, it will be the his decision to buy back into the coin while prices are still cheap. Otherwise, the rest he can cash out to pay his bills. If we pay him 3btc in EMC2 directly, it would take a sizable portion from myself or from holders and it's just not a very reasonable decision at current market rates. It's not only not a reasonable decision for you OR anyone else at current market rate. You have to ask yourself, why would someone take a risk and pay BTC to make their past investment worth a little more when they've already lost so much. It's 1 thing to Baghold until now, it's another thing to Baghold until now AND further pay. Besides, I'm not sure emc2 community currently has the confidence to send 3btc blindly. I'm not coming at you or anything, but things went sideways here, some things were planned and never ended happening and you were recently associated with a potential scam (like I said, I'm not coming at you, I think I actually like you). But I'm stating the current facts. 3btc collected just isn't happening. It has nothing to do with how strong this community is or not, this community just isn't in a state where it can do that. Your most loyal community members and biggest pockets already your post, I think it has been established that for no one thinks it's worth the risk / reward. So used your time wisely and don't waste it waiting on that 3btc filled and come up with another proposition. Maybe try to make my suggestion or something of the sort work out, or come up with something entirely different, or a Dev that would accept such a position without cash up front. And beyond the scope of the rest of my post, usually someone gets paid after the work is done, I'm not exactly sure why we're hanged by the balls and that it should be any different especially in a bitcoin world known for scams and jobs unfinished. I agree that the community is not really where it should be for us to collect the money. Not only that, but forking a coin a changing its fundamentals usually kills it all together. The switch to PoS will not increase our value. It's taken me a bit of humility and learning, but I've come to decide that we need to change direction with this coin. What we really need is a new system for donating to science. Switching algo may be something that can come a little down the line, but at our current state it may be best to refocus on what we are really supposed to be doing with EMC2. My goal now is for Einsteinium is to create a website much like Kickstarter or Experiment.com specifically geared for funding science projects with crypto. People will be able to create projects and receive votes / funding directly in EMC2. Above that, it's time that we rebuild our coin team from the ground up. I will update very soon. We should create a ''how-to'' to give with the EMC2, to help those that are not familiar with CC. Good decision, not let focus on reaching the scientific community. This coin is for them, so let them know we exist. I really like that idea, maybe I can get an info graphic put together within a day or two that we can share around.
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ahumanbeingx
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July 30, 2014, 04:43:32 PM |
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To further add on my post, because I feel I threw an alternative that wouldn't be realizable. I'm currently one of the top 3 holders of emc2, if I were to make a sizable donation based on what I own, it would still be quite a bit less than the amount needed. So, at the current market value, it's a great amount to raise, what I own right now used to be worth about 20k, I think everyone here is in a similar boat, further investment from current holders has incentive, but at another risk for a more than comfortable chuck of what their investment is currently worth. It's not that 3btc is a big fee, it's just a fee the community isn't really able to absorb at the current market value.
So here's my suggestion. Why not make the new Dev the recipient of the next (or 2) wormholes? It gives him incentive to do a good job, it potentially gives him more money than the flat 3btc fee, and it's actually realizable. And it also goes towards "helping science" if it's funding a system TO fun science.
The reason we chose BTC instead of a EMC2 donation is because of current market value. The developer needs money right now in order to pay for the time it will take to begin to implement the changes. Upon payment receipt, it will be the his decision to buy back into the coin while prices are still cheap. Otherwise, the rest he can cash out to pay his bills. If we pay him 3btc in EMC2 directly, it would take a sizable portion from myself or from holders and it's just not a very reasonable decision at current market rates. It's not only not a reasonable decision for you OR anyone else at current market rate. You have to ask yourself, why would someone take a risk and pay BTC to make their past investment worth a little more when they've already lost so much. It's 1 thing to Baghold until now, it's another thing to Baghold until now AND further pay. Besides, I'm not sure emc2 community currently has the confidence to send 3btc blindly. I'm not coming at you or anything, but things went sideways here, some things were planned and never ended happening and you were recently associated with a potential scam (like I said, I'm not coming at you, I think I actually like you). But I'm stating the current facts. 3btc collected just isn't happening. It has nothing to do with how strong this community is or not, this community just isn't in a state where it can do that. Your most loyal community members and biggest pockets already your post, I think it has been established that for no one thinks it's worth the risk / reward. So used your time wisely and don't waste it waiting on that 3btc filled and come up with another proposition. Maybe try to make my suggestion or something of the sort work out, or come up with something entirely different, or a Dev that would accept such a position without cash up front. And beyond the scope of the rest of my post, usually someone gets paid after the work is done, I'm not exactly sure why we're hanged by the balls and that it should be any different especially in a bitcoin world known for scams and jobs unfinished. I agree that the community is not really where it should be for us to collect the money. Not only that, but forking a coin a changing its fundamentals usually kills it all together. The switch to PoS will not increase our value. It's taken me a bit of humility and learning, but I've come to decide that we need to change direction with this coin. What we really need is a new system for donating to science. Switching algo may be something that can come a little down the line, but at our current state it may be best to refocus on what we are really supposed to be doing with EMC2. My goal now is for Einsteinium is to create a website much like Kickstarter or Experiment.com specifically geared for funding science projects with crypto. People will be able to create projects and receive votes / funding directly in EMC2. Above that, it's time that we rebuild our coin team from the ground up. I will update very soon. We should create a ''how-to'' to give with the EMC2, to help those that are not familiar with CC. Good decision, not let focus on reaching the scientific community. This coin is for them, so let them know we exist. +1 Also, does someone still have access to the twitter account? Might be a good time to start sending tweets to remind the community that we are still here! Yes I do and I've began to tweet / retweet more lately. I would like to hire someone from the community to handle our Twitter account exclusively + tip bot. I will create a bounty post for that after work today.
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July 30, 2014, 07:24:48 PM |
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I agree that the community is not really where it should be for us to collect the money. Not only that, but forking a coin a changing its fundamentals usually kills it all together. The switch to PoS will not increase our value. It's taken me a bit of humility and learning, but I've come to decide that we need to change direction with this coin. What we really need is a new system for donating to science. Switching algo may be something that can come a little down the line, but at our current state it may be best to refocus on what we are really supposed to be doing with EMC2.
My goal now is for Einsteinium is to create a website much like Kickstarter or Experiment.com specifically geared for funding science projects with crypto. People will be able to create projects and receive votes / funding directly in EMC2. Above that, it's time that we rebuild our coin team from the ground up. I will update very soon.
WOW....You have become the MASTER OF DISSASTER.... You change idea like the weather, one day sun next day rain.
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July 30, 2014, 08:51:27 PM |
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so what is going on then?!?! hot air...........??
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