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May 11, 2014, 07:14:56 PM
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Lets change algo to scrypt-n
and merge mining with VTC
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May 12, 2014, 04:16:52 AM
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it's getting so quiet in here ... Embarrassed

Dev, we need some updates

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May 12, 2014, 04:23:53 AM
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it's getting so quiet in here ... Embarrassed

Dev, we need some updates

LOL, its sunday night.. Someone will be around soon with an update!
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May 12, 2014, 04:34:24 AM
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emc2 coin is dead

i will to bet 37.5 BTC *all that i have* that emc2 died in 2 months.


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emc2 will be take down from least 2 xchanges coming 2 months July 12 2014.
If it happens i win. only 2 needs to take down emc2 *mintpal cryptsy poloniex*


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May 12, 2014, 04:40:17 AM
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Lets change algo to scrypt-n
and merge mining with VTC

No, just no. Scrypt-N is even less efficient then scrypt. It is also not anymore secure then scrypt. There are no advantages going that direction.

There will be an official response from the developers regarding this in detail, with that being said this is my personal response.

In terms of any hashing algorithms being more secure, that is more myth and marketing then fact. In fact some of those present their own problems in terms of both security and the potential for botnets after analysis by our developer. Basically, they present some major security issues.  In addition some of these new algorithms are literally hacked together, they seem power efficient because they are not optimized. Good hashing algorithms, which scrypt is one, generally have the same level of security, and the same vulnerabilities. Scrypt is actually a secure algorithm, there is nothing wrong with it, other then a significant amount of irrational FUD around scrypt ASICs that is prolific right now.  Despite the fact that many of the scrypt asics have not made an appearance, and will likely be gradually be introduced into einsteinium's network. The reality is the advantage to ASICs, is actually security.

In terms of efficiency, some may be more power efficient in terms of GPU mining, that is not mean they are as efficient as they can be in general, and as I stated before, a few of them present their own problems in terms of security. As it has been pointed out, is ASICs are more efficient then GPUs no matter the algorithm, and there is a point where we will need to transition to that form of mining at some point. With that being said, as predicted, it would be needed at a certain point in our life-cycle, especially considering the halving schedule.


I would also not confuse investors with GPU miners either. The two groups are not necessarily the same. We see no reason to change our algorithm at this point. Essentially, it would just be a gimmick with no real advantage.

With all that being said changing the algorithm, and implementing such a large fork can present significant risks. This could range from outright killing the coin, the loss of previous coins, or something else. Litecoin laid out one, the biggest risk is it presents the risks of essentially creating a new coin and two separate forks. In this way forking the coin with a new hashing algoritm presents is a significant security risk, and one with no guaranteed rewards. Keeping the algorithm as is, ups and downs included, at least insures we will not see those risks that are introduced through a new algorithm change, which is in many ways, a gimmick, and one that can introduce major issues.  

It is not likely to happen to fork to a new hashing algorithm.

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May 12, 2014, 05:16:05 AM
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emc2 coin is dead

i will to bet 37.5 BTC *all that i have* that emc2 died in 2 months.


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emc2 will be take down from least 2 xchanges coming 2 months July 12 2014.
If it happens i win. only 2 needs to take down emc2 *mintpal cryptsy poloniex*


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I bet with 1 or many

lol Bring your real nick and we will talk

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May 12, 2014, 05:29:17 AM
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i no need to. i stand with my bet.

emc2 is dead 2 months over. bet me
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May 12, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
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amazingly, so inadequate person)
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May 12, 2014, 08:38:59 AM
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for those short sighted and greedy people who think that changing the coins fundamentals like Proof of work or block reward schedule is going to create value in the long run..

just look at the coins that did....

take maxcoin for example.. in order to abate their falling price they bowed to pressure from speculators and recently cut the block reward in half.. They were never a Scrypt coin and so were never at risk of being affected by ASICs in the short to medium term...
and yet.. after a brief rise in price for a few weeks... the price has tumbled to almost half the price it was before they tampered with it...

this is just a warning for those short sighted people who believe that messing with a coins fundamentals is a good idea.

don't listen to the fools and speculators.. they are only in it to line their own pockets...

messing with a coins fundamentals breaks community trust because if they can do it once... then they will do it again.

markets need certainty in order for investors to put money down and help the economy grow.

if you break that certainty you simply push away the very people you are hoping to attract.

and PS.. for those people who think that ASICS are evil.. they are actually more power efficient and thus more environmentally friendly than GPUs.. they show investor long term commitment to growing the economy (because someone has to put serious money down and wait many months to design and develop them).. they secure the network and protect against botnet attacks... and they didn't seem to do Litecoin or Bitcoin any harm now did they?

don't believe the hype... and follow the lead of the successful and trusted coins.

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May 12, 2014, 09:38:26 AM
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for those short sighted and greedy people who think that changing the coins fundamentals like Proof of work or block reward schedule is going to create value in the long run..

just look at the coins that did....

take maxcoin for example.. in order to abate their falling price they bowed to pressure from speculators and recently cut the block reward in half.. They were never a Scrypt coin and so were never at risk of being affected by ASICs in the short to medium term...
and yet.. after a brief rise in price for a few weeks... the price has tumbled to almost half the price it was before they tampered with it...

this is just a warning for those short sighted people who believe that messing with a coins fundamentals is a good idea.

don't listen to the fools and speculators.. they are only in it to line their own pockets...

messing with a coins fundamentals breaks community trust because if they can do it once... then they will do it again.

markets need certainty in order for investors to put money down and help the economy grow.

if you break that certainty you simply push away the very people you are hoping to attract.

and PS.. for those people who think that ASICS are evil.. they are actually more power efficient and thus more environmentally friendly than GPUs.. they show investor long term commitment to growing the economy (because someone has to put serious money down and wait many months to design and develop them).. they secure the network and protect against botnet attacks... and they didn't seem to do Litecoin or Bitcoin any harm now did they?

don't believe the hype... and follow the lead of the successful and trusted coins.


You're right . For new ideas takes time. The same Bitcoin was just the plaything of geeks , and now dominates the minds of many people , and based on it generated a lot of ideas about the future of information transmission. ASICs not as evil as everyone thinks . Their number can not block all the gpu cards . They are much smaller . And unlike these Bitcoins Asic distributed over a large number of different coins , and they do not threaten any particular coin.
As for the low price now EMC2 . Everyone who has a few Bitcoins can dump or pump the price because small volume of trading . And now not even talk seriously about low price and panic. Just need to hold them .
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May 12, 2014, 09:54:15 AM
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This is not serious. This is a new account, trolls. Just ignore
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May 12, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
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emc2 coin is dead

i will to bet 37.5 BTC *all that i have* that emc2 died in 2 months.


Bet

emc2 will be take down from least 2 xchanges coming 2 months July 12 2014.
If it happens i win. only 2 needs to take down emc2 *mintpal cryptsy poloniex*


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I bet with 1 or many


What is your hypothesis, theory, reasoning, foundation for such a proclamation?



This is not serious. This is a new account, trolls. Just ignore



The account is new, true; however as someone earlier intimated it is very likely that the owner of that account also has another account that he is hiding from the conversation.  I don't care so much about the bet, or to know the tenured ID for the writer, I want to know how the writer arrived at his position.

Prejudicial dismission impedes knowledge, I'm willing to give a fair hearing of the claims so that I could arrive at my own conclusions.




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May 12, 2014, 10:21:28 AM
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EMC2 is strong coin, not dead. just a couple weeks, we will see 1K sat. just watch.

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May 12, 2014, 10:40:16 AM
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EMC2 is strong coin, not dead. just a couple weeks, we will see 1K sat. just watch.

EMC2 is NOT strong, is far from strong. 

Hyperbole on either side of the coin does the EMC2 community no good.

Please provide info to support your conclusion that in "just a couple weeks, we will see 1K sat"?

It is approx 7am EST, in 2.5 hrs EMC2's value, will determine (historically) it's week long tone.  Although EMC2 is presently 270 (mintpal) - 280 (Cryptsy), the run up doesn't look good but I'll reserve judgement for a few hours.



 
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May 12, 2014, 12:58:35 PM
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There isn't a super long term plan of many years to be had with any coin aside from Bitcoin so everyone is a medium to short term investor by default. To invest your life savings into bitcoins let alone any altcoin is incredibly risky; I'm not a financial advisor but my 2 cents would be not to do it. There is no coin in the crypto coin world today that is a long term investment of many years in my opinion.

I don't see changing the coins fundamentals as a bad thing. I actually see it as a good thing. It's show me and fellow investors that the developers are willing to keep up with the dynamic and constantly evolving technological world that we live in.

I have said my piece, I hope the developers/promoters know what they're doing, however no one can really _know_ what they're doing, they can just hope their chosen path is the right one.

Lifeforce will still support EMC2 whatever the outcome.
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May 12, 2014, 01:34:32 PM
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There isn't a super long term plan of many years to be had with any coin aside from Bitcoin so everyone is a medium to short term investor by default. To invest your life savings into bitcoins let alone any altcoin is incredibly risky; I'm not a financial advisor but my 2 cents would be not to do it. There is no coin in the crypto coin world today that is a long term investment of many years in my opinion.

I don't see changing the coins fundamentals as a bad thing. I actually see it as a good thing. It's show me and fellow investors that the developers are willing to keep up with the dynamic and constantly evolving technological world that we live in.

I have said my piece, I hope the developers/promoters know what they're doing, however no one can really _know_ what they're doing, they can just hope their chosen path is the right one.

Lifeforce will still support EMC2 whatever the outcome.

Hey bud,

I'm glad to see that you'll continue to support our coin no matter what outcome plays out. Personally I believe that this coin needs to stick to its roots. Its was born scrypt and it should live as scrypt. I saw you post about other "more secure" algos. Care to give me a lesson on the pros and cons of the other algos you were mentioning earlier in the thread. To me I see it as "if an algo is strong then its strong, wont matter if its scrypt-n, scrypt, x11 or sha 256". They are all pretty unbeatable.
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May 12, 2014, 01:39:47 PM
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 Huh Huh
any official statement before we totally drop and forget this coin?
not that I don't believe in the project or ideas behind it, but without a strong coin that can hold its value and grow, the rest won't matter anymore.

btw, it's not by changing algo, it's not by adding Pos or whatever the new flav of the week is... but it's by having an agenda and creating buzz around it.
(and no, i'm not here for p&d)

thanks if you can say something cuz we decided to move our coins back to exchanges now  Sad
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May 12, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
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EMC2 is strong coin, not dead. just a couple weeks, we will see 1K sat. just watch.

EMC2 is NOT strong, is far from strong. 

Hyperbole on either side of the coin does the EMC2 community no good.

Please provide info to support your conclusion that in "just a couple weeks, we will see 1K sat"?

It is approx 7am EST, in 2.5 hrs EMC2's value, will determine (historically) it's week long tone.  Although EMC2 is presently 270 (mintpal) - 280 (Cryptsy), the run up doesn't look good but I'll reserve judgement for a few hours.



Well it is after 9:30am EST, EMC2 rates are as follows:

Poloniex 281
Mintpal 280
Cryptsy 270


As far as the evidence indicates EMC2 is in a COMA.

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Got a quick news, someone will sell several millions emc2 from 16:00 GMT 12 May on mintpal. It will be big dump ever. I am waiting.
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May 12, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
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Huh Huh
any official statement before we totally drop and forget this coin?
not that I don't believe in the project or ideas behind it, but without a strong coin that can hold its value and grow, the rest won't matter anymore.

btw, it's not by changing algo, it's not by adding Pos or whatever the new flav of the week is... but it's by having an agenda and creating buzz around it.
(and no, i'm not here for p&d)

thanks if you can say something cuz we decided to move our coins back to exchanges now  Sad


I think its time to the dev to do statment about EMC2,what going on, overall progress on work and stop kepping silence on project coming(new wallet?etc)

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