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January 15, 2019, 08:33:41 PM Last edit: January 15, 2019, 08:50:25 PM by cryptohunter |
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Since lot of new face on DT network, I am expecting a suggestion's/motivational post from old DT members. To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.
Here's some quick advice: 1) For positive feedback: Be very conservative. 2) For negative feedback: Be strict and follow the general standards (what we tag for and what we don't tag for). 3) For trust lists: Not that important unless you are DT1, but I'd say be even more conservative than 1). Well seems you don't stick by those standards at all. I presented evidence that you lied and said I would encourage persons to examine your history .......... you then gave me red trust. Only those that have wrong doing in their past history would view encouraging people to look back at it a bad thing. Do you have things to hide? well the fact you lied with financial motivation is there in black and white. Can't weasel out of that. Then the 2 others involved/implicated in your extortion scheme tman and owlcatz both gave me red trust for saying you are an abuser of the trust system and again presenting evidence that you are indeed a financially motivated liar. One of your idiot friends tman admitted in black and white he gave me red trust because I presented facts about you Unless you can find one lie that I have posted about you then you need to remove my red trust. The funny thing is you rushed to a thread without me even asking you to prior to all of this to accuse me of being a liar and when I said produce the evidence you did not. So you are a fool, liar, trust abuser with double standards. That is without all the other shady stuff you are implicated in.... This is on topic so I don't expect it to be removed from this thread. You can not have a proven liar and abuser of the trust system telling others how to use the trust system when clearly not following his own advice.
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January 16, 2019, 05:07:17 AM |
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I think this is too much change at once. There are too many new faces as DTs, this will become a mess, there will be too much retaliation between people, too many tags given without thinking. Look at this discussion. The fact that everyone's list is public brings a lot of drama. But I suspect this is what Theymos wanted.
I think the criterias should be much more selective.
DT1s : -Should have earned at least 750 merits (number to raise with time) -Should have an activity of at least 800 -Should be trusted by one of the admins
DT2s : -Should have earned at least 500 merits -Should have an activity of at least 800 as well (no newbies please, they have no idea of the responsibility this is) -Sould be trusted by at least 2 DT1s
I understand that Theymos wants the merit criteria to be taken into account and I agree with that but the rest is way too subjective. The DTs should be established members who know this place and will take their job seriously, not new guys who will be on a power trip and tag everyone on sight.
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January 16, 2019, 05:11:01 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I think this is too much change at once. There are too many new faces as DTs, this will become a mess, there will be too much retaliation between people, too many tags given without thinking. Look at this discussion. The fact that everyone's list is public brings a lot of drama. But I suspect this is what Theymos wanted.
I think the criterias should be much more selective.
DT1s : -Should have earned at least 750 merits (number to raise with time) -Should have an activity of at least 800 -Should be trusted by one of the admins
DT2s : -Should have earned at least 500 merits -Should have an activity of at least 800 as well (no newbies please, they have no idea of the responsibility this is) -Sould be trusted by at least 2 DT1s
I understand that Theymos wants the merit criteria to be taken into account and I agree with that but the rest is way too subjective. The DTs should be established members who know this place and will take their job seriously, not new guys who will be on a power trip and tag everyone on sight.
So you are brand new to the forum, and know the way it "Should work" Lol....
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January 16, 2019, 05:24:32 AM |
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~snip~
So you are brand new to the forum, and know the way it "Should work" Lol.... Must be someone who noticed that their trust score just turned red with all the untrusted feedback now becoming trusted feedback.
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January 16, 2019, 06:30:23 AM |
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-Should have an activity of at least 800
Activity has nothing to do with trust. -Should be trusted by one of the admins
That's what it used to be. A handpicked list of DT1 members. We're moving away from that.
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January 16, 2019, 07:02:03 AM |
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~snip~
So you are brand new to the forum, and know the way it "Should work" Lol.... Must be someone who noticed that their trust score just turned red with all the untrusted feedback now becoming trusted feedback. Maybe it's just another alt of Quickscammer. It would be best to avoid manipulative advice.
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January 16, 2019, 07:35:35 AM |
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I think this is too much change at once. There are too many new faces as DTs, this will become a mess, there will be too much retaliation between people, too many tags given without thinking. Look at this discussion. The fact that everyone's list is public brings a lot of drama. But I suspect this is what Theymos wanted.
I think the criterias should be much more selective.
DT1s : -Should have earned at least 750 merits (number to raise with time) -Should have an activity of at least 800 -Should be trusted by one of the admins
DT2s : -Should have earned at least 500 merits -Should have an activity of at least 800 as well (no newbies please, they have no idea of the responsibility this is) -Sould be trusted by at least 2 DT1s
I understand that Theymos wants the merit criteria to be taken into account and I agree with that but the rest is way too subjective. The DTs should be established members who know this place and will take their job seriously, not new guys who will be on a power trip and tag everyone on sight.
So you want us to believe you understand what the Trust Network is, what activity is and what merits are, having joined the forum just today? If you want your post to have any credit whatsoever you should use your main account
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January 16, 2019, 07:47:07 AM |
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Must be someone who noticed that their trust score just turned red with all the untrusted feedback now becoming trusted feedback. Of course I'm an alt but no I'm not tagged or in the run to be DT. This thread is 30 pages long of intimidation so I think it's wiser for me to use an alt. I'm just a regular member. That doesn't mean my points can't be taken into consideration. Why not put all this to a vote, a vote in which untagged members with at least a certain amount of earned merits (20,30,50...I don't know) would participate? Theymos would give us a few options on how DTs should be picked and we would vote for the one we prefer.
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January 16, 2019, 07:58:27 AM Last edit: January 16, 2019, 08:33:13 AM by DdmrDdmr |
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That would totally defeat the purpose of the changes which, I figure, vouch for a more decentralized system, since candidate numbers woud be really low: Forum profiles that meet your DT1 criteria (*): 12 Forum profiles that meet your DT2 criteria (*): 23 user_id name rank activity merit earnedMerits Your DT1 Criteria Your DT2 Criteria 290195 achow101 Staff 1638 1936 935 Yes Yes 569455 BobLawblaw Legendary 1148 1683 683 no Yes 11425 gmaxwell Staff 2618 1846 846 Yes Yes 867786 HCP Legendary 840 1032 532 no Yes 881377 Hhampuz Legendary 910 1001 501 no Yes 397737 hilariousetc Legendary 1092 1759 1259 Yes Yes 41175 infofront Legendary 1526 1534 531 no Yes 252510 JayJuanGee Legendary 1764 1505 504 no Yes 698159 Jet Cash Legendary 1120 1430 927 Yes Yes 49008 jojo69 Legendary 1260 1558 558 no Yes 479624 Last of the V8s Legendary 1008 1698 1197 Yes Yes 101872 Lauda Legendary 2086 1687 687 no Yes 459836 LoyceV Legendary 1358 2522 1522 Yes Yes 520313 Lutpin Legendary 1274 1764 764 Yes Yes 787736 marlboroza Legendary 1064 1092 592 no Yes 18321 OgNasty Donator 2786 1504 504 no Yes 24140 qwk Donator 2002 1561 561 no Yes 234771 suchmoon Legendary 1820 2256 1253 Yes Yes 487418 The Pharmacist Legendary 1386 2286 1284 Yes Yes 35 theymos Administrator 3262 4502 3480 Yes Yes 98986 TMAN Legendary 1022 1225 722 no Yes 30747 Vod Legendary 2618 1902 901 Yes Yes 120694 xhomerx10 Legendary 1890 1812 810 Yes Yes
(*) Trusted by admin / DT1 not included, so numbers would be even lower really (plus DT1s would not be on the DT2 list).
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January 16, 2019, 08:03:22 AM |
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Must be someone who noticed that their trust score just turned red with all the untrusted feedback now becoming trusted feedback. Of course I'm an alt but no I'm not tagged or in the run to be DT. This thread is 30 pages long of intimidation so I think it's wiser for me to use an alt. I'm just a regular member. That doesn't mean my points can't be taken into consideration. That's exactly what it means. If you want the chance of anybody taking anything you have to say seriously, post under your main account.
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January 16, 2019, 08:06:05 AM |
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Why not put all this to a vote, a vote in which untagged members with at least a certain amount of earned merits (20,30,50...I don't know) would participate? I mean, you've just suggested exactly how the new system works. Any member with more than 10 merits gets to vote in who they want to be DT1. The more merit you have, the more user you can vote for. Just because you don't like the outcome of a vote, doesn't mean the entire system is invalid. The whole point of the system is to not have theymos handpicking a few DT1s. If there is anyone he really doesn't want on the DT1 list, he can still blacklist/remove them, so you can assume he is it at least somewhat happy with the current voted in list.
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January 16, 2019, 08:47:30 AM |
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I like the changes so far. Theymos said that changes can/will still be made if the new system proves to be faulty. The current system appears to me more decentralized as it is.
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January 16, 2019, 09:17:45 AM |
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DT1s : -Should have earned at least 750 merits (number to raise with time) -Should have an activity of at least 800 -Should be trusted by one of the admins
The basis of the DT system is the aggregation of unique feedback from many users. If you don't have feedback and you have activity and merit, how will it help other users to determine trust in a particular user?
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January 16, 2019, 09:28:31 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I'm not tagged or in the run to be DT.
So why not express your voice with your original account? What do you fear exactly. I didn't see much intimidation yet. Maybe a bit of heated debate. You showed that your logic is invalid, I hardly see you get tagged or something like that if you had posted it with your main account.
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The current system appears to me more decentralized as it is.
Its also pretty cleaver. DT-1 people who have lots of earned positive trust feedback (physical bitcoin collectors are at the top) these people have all been trusted with funds the majority of these trades without escrow DT-2 the members that the above trust to look after the forum and protect the trust system and newbies from scammers Many times better than a draconian system with a few members that Theymos trusted back in 2013. No longer is it a dictatorship, people who are trusted with funds are able to vote members in. Also what most people are ignoring is the onus that Theymos has put on people to set custom lists, if you don't like me or trust me then fucking exclude me - same for anyone else on DT-1, once this all goes through the wash and DT is expanded it will be interesting to see what the state of DT-1 is and how all the senior and trusted members have voted. ill say it again, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SYSTEM SET A CUSTOM LIST. This is peoples chance to vote who is trusted and who isn't and once 50% of the forum is using custom lists then DT means fuck all anyway other than a guide to newbies (who wont be trading till they have an idea of how things happen here anyway)
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January 16, 2019, 03:21:45 PM |
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untagged members
What does that mean?
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January 16, 2019, 03:27:25 PM |
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The current system appears to me more decentralized as it is.
Its also pretty cleaver. DT-1 people who have lots of earned positive trust feedback (physical bitcoin collectors are at the top) these people have all been trusted with funds the majority of these trades without escrow DT-2 the members that the above trust to look after the forum and protect the trust system and newbies from scammers Many times better than a draconian system with a few members that Theymos trusted back in 2013. No longer is it a dictatorship, people who are trusted with funds are able to vote members in. Also what most people are ignoring is the onus that Theymos has put on people to set custom lists, if you don't like me or trust me then fucking exclude me - same for anyone else on DT-1, once this all goes through the wash and DT is expanded it will be interesting to see what the state of DT-1 is and how all the senior and trusted members have voted. ill say it again, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SYSTEM SET A CUSTOM LIST. This is peoples chance to vote who is trusted and who isn't and once 50% of the forum is using custom lists then DT means fuck all anyway other than a guide to newbies (who wont be trading till they have an idea of how things happen here anyway) cleaver? Well i see you personally admitted 2 accounts of trust abuse so far. 1. you admitted you left red trust for me relating facts. 2. you just threatened to leave me red trust for not using a posting format you considered easier to read. Get these types of abusers off of the DT list before it becomes a laughing stock. proof can be provided.
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January 16, 2019, 03:36:08 PM |
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offensive posting style that has given me eye cancer and inability to quote the small part of a massive thread.
I hardly see how this is reason for a red tag. Not debating the other part, I have no stake in this debate. Try harder you stupid fuck.
Since he is supposed to be mental and not you, I would appreciate (for my eyes, and eye cancer risks) for you to refrain from using such names.
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January 16, 2019, 03:43:05 PM |
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offensive posting style that has given me eye cancer and inability to quote the small part of a massive thread.
I hardly see how this is reason for a red tag. Not debating the other part, I have no stake in this debate. I said I will ponder about it, IE think about it and I decided against it as it would be unfair, although it did force the fool to learn how to quote properly Since he is supposed to be mental and not you, I would appreciate (for my eyes, and eye cancer risks) for you to refrain from using such names.
he is a stupid fuck - I don't see how my language affects your eyes in any way shape or form. Edit - I would suggest you reading the initial thread in my neg reference, a few minutes browsing it should lead you to come to the same conclusion as I, maybe without the bad language though!
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January 16, 2019, 03:49:09 PM |
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Will check it out for sure. Not saying you are wrong, only using bad language has a way to make you lose relevance
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