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March 30, 2019, 08:08:22 AM |
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So how your trust score become +1 since it's not a month that you have got positive feedback . However I am not saying you are totally wrong. I just noticed on my first score, after I didn't bothered to calculate it. You might get more clear answers from below quote. Perhaps first score reflect after two weeks then increase by every month. It starts changing after approximately 2 weeks, theymos uses "round_up" for months.
Yaa, its rounded up for an total month. I think the algorithm shows it clearly! score += min(10, round_up(months since rating))
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cryptovigi
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March 30, 2019, 10:26:27 PM Last edit: March 31, 2019, 12:52:36 PM by cryptovigi |
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Hey guys - thanks for giving me the algorithm, but I do already know it. The problem is that, when i try to check the algorithm on the particular example sth doesn't work, that's why i asked you to check my example and explain where do i make a mistake Maybe this could be helpfull: My trust list is short: | DefaultTrust wwzsocki BitCryptex Tytanowy Janusz
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And Trust depth as i said is set to 1 And this is Trusted feedback of wwzsocki from his Trust summaryAnd his Sent feedback So once again - looking at trust values of user wwzsocki : ...I can see the numbers 12: -0 / +5The number of positive trust reports agrees - when I enter his profile I see five positive Trusted feedback so this is ok ... I do not understand why the score of the user's trust - I see the number 12 on his profile According to me: Since I gave him a trust (this month) so he has a trust from me 1 One mate from my trust list also gave him a trust this month so his trust is growing to two. Additionally, my trust deep is set to 1 (and he is in my trust list) so I "see" his as well his personal trust. Apart from me and a user from my list (which I have already mentioned), he has two users (whom he gave the trust and they gave him back to him) - one ("2018-11-11" so 5 months ago) and the other ("2018-10 -21 "so 6 months ago), so for these two should get an extra 11 points, which together with the two points I mentioned earlier gives 13. So why do I see 12 [edit:] Today (31-03-2019) his trust changed and now i can see 13: -0 / +5So the new question is: "Why did the change from 12 to 13 take place today not earlier"
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cryptovigi
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March 31, 2019, 11:02:47 AM |
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... So the new question is: "Why did the change from 12 to 13 take place today not earlier"
Since I do not find any relation to today's date with the change in the trust value of the user wwzsocki - the only explanation I found is that the value of trust is not constantly updated, but this process takes place every certain period of time (or on a particular day of the month). So if someone receives a trust feedback - his score is refreshed immediately, but if he does not get another - the next refreshment takes place in accordance with the planned schedule - or on a specific day of the month (for example the last day of the month - it would explain todays change). Is it possible? - I have not found information on this subject except for the one below (but it concerns DT1) ... ... #3 I will periodically (maybe every month) be reconstructing the default trust list to include everyone who matches these criteria: ...
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March 31, 2019, 01:33:36 PM |
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So the new question is: "Why did the change from 12 to 13 take place today not earlier"
It looks like the round_up part of the formula may not be rounding up but rather rounding properly, i.e. numbers below 0.5 are rounded to 0, not to 1. I'm guessing the March 16 rating "matured" today to 0.5+ of a month and added 1 to the rating. Calculations from poking around some random users: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=4527692019-03-07 rounding up should make this a +1, rounding properly would make it a +1 2019-02-23 rounding up should make this a +2, rounding properly would make it a +1 2019-01-30 rounding up should make this a +3, rounding properly would make it a +2 Actual rating is +4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=13397162019-02-05 rounding up should make this a +2, rounding properly would make it a +2 2019-01-27 rounding up should make this a +3, rounding properly would make it a +2 Actual rating is +4 And so on. Note that I'm using a custom trust list so the ratings you'll see on those users will probably be different.
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cryptovigi
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March 31, 2019, 04:40:57 PM |
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... It looks like the round_up part of the formula may not be rounding up but rather rounding properly, i.e. numbers below 0.5 are rounded to 0, not to 1. I'm guessing the March 16 rating "matured" today to 0.5+ of a month and added 1 to the rating. ...
Your way of thinking is completely logical, but it does not harmonize with the algorithm given by theymos - he clearly wrote that he uses the function of rounding up in other case he would use a simple rounding function (as you described). I am also convinced that after receiving my first positive feedback I did not have to wait two weeks and trust score appeared immediately (that means, the rounding up function worked). Therefore, I think that the algorithm works, while the trust is recalculated not continuously only at a specific time (for example on a particular day of the month), except the situation when someone receives a positive /negative feedback - then the trust score is recalculated immediately.
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March 31, 2019, 04:47:57 PM |
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... It looks like the round_up part of the formula may not be rounding up but rather rounding properly, i.e. numbers below 0.5 are rounded to 0, not to 1. I'm guessing the March 16 rating "matured" today to 0.5+ of a month and added 1 to the rating. ...
Your way of thinking is completely logical, but it does not harmonize with the algorithm given by theymos - he clearly wrote that he uses the function of rounding up in other case he would use a simple rounding function (as you described). I am also convinced that after receiving my first positive feedback I did not have to wait two weeks and trust score appeared immediately (that means, the rounding up function worked). Therefore, I think that the algorithm works, while the trust is recalculated not continuously only at a specific time (for example on a particular day of the month), except the situation when someone receives a positive /negative feedback - then the trust score is recalculated immediately. Could be. I have a couple of feedbacks from January 17 and 19 - will check in a couple of days if my score increases or not. Right now it's 2 points short
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April 03, 2019, 10:37:38 PM Last edit: April 04, 2019, 03:57:32 PM by 1miau |
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New Members added to DT1: malevolent Anduck Ticked greenplastic Foxpup EcuaMobi Avirunes willi9974 Rmcdermott927 nutildah Kryptowerk Hellmouth42 Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.msg50447891#msg50447891
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April 04, 2019, 12:55:03 AM |
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New Members added to DT1:
+Foxpup
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April 04, 2019, 06:53:33 AM |
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Any members that are removed then? How big the Default Trust list can grow, I remember discussing this back in the day, but now I do nor recall what was the final answer? More and more people will cover the required criteria to enter the DT.
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April 04, 2019, 08:13:34 AM |
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Any members that are removed then? No, only additions. Diff: 7a8 > malevolent 9a11 > Anduck 11a14 > Foxpup 19a23 > Ticked 23a28 > greenplastic 24a30,31 > EcuaMobi > Avirunes 25a33 > willi9974 27a36 > Rmcdermott927 29a39 > nutildah 53a64 > Kryptowerk 64a76 > Hellmouth42 How big the Default Trust list can grow, I remember discussing this back in the day, but now I do nor recall what was the final answer? I don't think there's a final answer yet, if I recall correctly theymos mentioned somehting like 100.
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April 04, 2019, 10:10:49 AM |
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New Members added to DT1:
+Foxpup Geez, you just had to go and blow my cover, didn't you?
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April 04, 2019, 02:50:31 PM |
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+Foxpup Geez, you just had to go and blow my cover, didn't you? Sorry, must have missed the super secret memo. What we really need to figure out now is whether Lauda's gang or Foxpup's club is controlling the DT.
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April 04, 2019, 03:20:52 PM |
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What we really need to figure out now is whether Lauda's gang or Foxpup's club is controlling the DT. Isn't that obvious?
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April 04, 2019, 03:30:48 PM |
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The worst thing about the Merit Cycle is that it always comes to an end I wish it could go on forever. But then peeps would be getting 10,000 merits a day and shit.
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April 04, 2019, 03:43:12 PM |
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What we really need to figure out now is whether Lauda's gang or Foxpup's club is controlling the DT. Isn't that obvious? You both are wrong. It is clear that the Collectibles Club clearly has the advantage. They may not be overly vocal here in meta, but they clearly are well represented.
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What we really need to figure out now is whether Lauda's gang or Foxpup's club is controlling the DT. Isn't that obvious? You both are wrong. It is clear that the Collectibles Club clearly has the advantage. They may not be overly vocal here in meta, but they clearly are well represented. i'm not long being @collectibles, but awesome people/community down there..... the TRUSTED people there, they really act like how they are TRUSTED, had several buying's lately and no problems, instant help from out of every corner etc love it there
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April 04, 2019, 03:55:36 PM |
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What we really need to figure out now is whether Lauda's gang or Foxpup's club is controlling the DT.
I control the merit system, Lauda controls the trust system. Together, we fight crime.
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April 04, 2019, 04:03:58 PM |
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What we really need to figure out now is whether Lauda's gang or Foxpup's club is controlling the DT.
I control the merit system, Lauda controls the trust system. Together, we fight crime. Dammit both I don’t know so well....
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XhomerX10 designed my nice avatar HATs!!!!! Thanks Bro
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April 04, 2019, 04:07:48 PM |
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What we really need to figure out now is whether Lauda's gang or Foxpup's club is controlling the DT.
I control the merit system, Lauda controls the trust system. Together, we fight crime. Dammit both I don’t know so well.... Don't worry. The people with the hats are all that you really need. When it comes to cycling merits, the people with the hats do it the best.
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April 04, 2019, 04:23:03 PM |
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Don't worry. The people with the hats are all that you really need. When it comes to cycling merits, the people with the hats do it the best. You forget, I've already turned one of them; don't count on the rest to protect you.
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