ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Vishnu.Reang]

Just because KL Rahul is not able to bat does not mean Indian team is struggling. Every team has home advantage but it still does not mean home team will dominate the series. A lot of new players are being tested in this T20 series before the T20 worldcup which I think is a good idea before Indian selectors sit and choose the final worldcup squad.

It is not just KL Rahul. Rohit Sharma has scores of 12 and 15 so far in the T20 series. Virat Kohli was dismissed for single digits three times in his last 5 innings (twice for 0, and 1 in his last match). Shikhar Dhawan is also not in great touch recently (he was a failure even during the recent domestic tournaments - Vijay Hazare Trophy & Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy). Right now, I would say that Rishabh Pant is the only batsmen who is being consistent.

[JSRAW]

India's 18 Men Squad ODI team against England.

-Prasidh Krishna got call due to good domestic season.
-Surya Kumar Yadav another good addition.
-Good to see Bhuvi in the final list.

Manish Pandey, Mayank Aggarwal, Samson, Shami (recovery) Jadeja (recovery), Bumrah (leave) and Saini are missing out.


https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1372774961484468224

[JohnBitCo]

India's 18 Men Squad ODI team against England.

-Prasidh Krishna got call due to good domestic season.
-Surya Kumar Yadav another good addition.
-Good to see Bhuvi in the final list.

Manish Pandey, Mayank Aggarwal, Samson, Shami (recovery) Jadeja (recovery), Bumrah (leave) and Saini are missing out.

Bumrah and Pandey will be missed by indians in the series. However it a good opportunity for Krishna and Surya Yadav to proof themselves in the tournament and make a permanent spot in the national team.

[Sithara007]

The selection of Prasidh Krishna doesn't make any sense. He was not that impressive during last year's IPL. Went for plenty of runs, although he had a couple of good outings. Also I believed that Ishan Kishan deserved a chance in the ODI squad as well, as he was dropped from the T20 playing XI after just two matches. One of the positives is the return of T Natarajan, who will add more variety to the otherwise monotonous bowling attack.

[pakhitheboss]

Just because KL Rahul is not able to bat does not mean Indian team is struggling. Every team has home advantage but it still does not mean home team will dominate the series. A lot of new players are being tested in this T20 series before the T20 worldcup which I think is a good idea before Indian selectors sit and choose the final worldcup squad.

It is not just KL Rahul. Rohit Sharma has scores of 12 and 15 so far in the T20 series. Virat Kohli was dismissed for single digits three times in his last 5 innings (twice for 0, and 1 in his last match). Shikhar Dhawan is also not in great touch recently (he was a failure even during the recent domestic tournaments - Vijay Hazare Trophy & Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy). Right now, I would say that Rishabh Pant is the only batsmen who is being consistent.

Unless these seniors stop performing how will you know which newbie is better. I think it is a great opportunity for new boys to concrete their presence in the national team. In due time most of the seniors will either be dropped and eventually they will retire and these boys will then take their seat.

But it still does not mean that Indian team is struggling, it's is just that a few batsmen are not in form.

[JSRAW]

The selection of Prasidh Krishna doesn't make any sense. He was not that impressive during last year's IPL. Went for plenty of runs, although he had a couple of good outings. Also I believed that Ishan Kishan deserved a chance in the ODI squad as well, as he was dropped from the T20 playing XI after just two matches. One of the positives is the return of T Natarajan, who will add more variety to the otherwise monotonous bowling attack.

Prasidh Krishna inclusion in the squad is for ODI series, T-20 or IPL record doesn't matter atm because he has been performing quite well in the Vijay Hazare Trophy consistently. 3 back to back good season, hence maiden India call up.

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[pakhitheboss]

The selection of Prasidh Krishna doesn't make any sense. He was not that impressive during last year's IPL. Went for plenty of runs, although he had a couple of good outings. Also I believed that Ishan Kishan deserved a chance in the ODI squad as well, as he was dropped from the T20 playing XI after just two matches. One of the positives is the return of T Natarajan, who will add more variety to the otherwise monotonous bowling attack.

Prasidh Krishna inclusion in the squad is for ODI series, T-20 or IPL record doesn't matter atm because he has been performing quite well in the Vijay Hazare Trophy consistently. 3 back to back good season, hence maiden India call up.

If Vijay Hazare Trophy was the main reason for Krishna's inclusion in the ODI then I fear Prithvi Shaw will not be getting a another chance in the future. His performance in Vijay Hazare Trophy was quite good but his inconsistency in International cricket might be the reason he did not get a chance this time or may be in the future.

[JSRAW]

The selection of Prasidh Krishna doesn't make any sense. He was not that impressive during last year's IPL. Went for plenty of runs, although he had a couple of good outings. Also I believed that Ishan Kishan deserved a chance in the ODI squad as well, as he was dropped from the T20 playing XI after just two matches. One of the positives is the return of T Natarajan, who will add more variety to the otherwise monotonous bowling attack.

Prasidh Krishna inclusion in the squad is for ODI series, T-20 or IPL record doesn't matter atm because he has been performing quite well in the Vijay Hazare Trophy consistently. 3 back to back good season, hence maiden India call up.

If Vijay Hazare Trophy was the main reason for Krishna's inclusion in the ODI then I fear Prithvi Shaw will not be getting a another chance in the future. His performance in Vijay Hazare Trophy was quite good but his inconsistency in International cricket might be the reason he did not get a chance this time or may be in the future.

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

[Sithara007]

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

Shikhar Dhawan is well past his prime. If he doesn't perform in the next 2-3 outings, then he should be dropped from the squad and sent back to his domestic team (Delhi). Devdutt deserves a chance now, after performing consistently with the bat over the last two years. Almost everyone else have got a chance, including Shaw, Gill, Kishan and Surya. So I don't know why Devdutt is getting overlooked.

[Iranus]

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

Shikhar Dhawan is well past his prime. If he doesn't perform in the next 2-3 outings, then he should be dropped from the squad and sent back to his domestic team (Delhi). Devdutt deserves a chance now, after performing consistently with the bat over the last two years. Almost everyone else have got a chance, including Shaw, Gill, Kishan and Surya. So I don't know why Devdutt is getting overlooked.

The Indian board has a lot of young talented players. Those who are unable to express their abilities due to lack of opportunities. If they get a chance in the national team, maybe they will be able to perform well. They should be given a chance. Although many players have done well in the domestic league, but they have failed to deliver as expected in the national team. Yet the board should give young players a chance. As if there will no shortage of qualified players for the Indian national team in the future.

[JSRAW]

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

Shikhar Dhawan is well past his prime. If he doesn't perform in the next 2-3 outings, then he should be dropped from the squad and sent back to his domestic team (Delhi). Devdutt deserves a chance now, after performing consistently with the bat over the last two years. Almost everyone else have got a chance, including Shaw, Gill, Kishan and Surya. So I don't know why Devdutt is getting overlooked.

I doubt if he's going to feature in domestic regularly. Delhi already dropped him after couple of games in Vijay hazare trophy, if something goes wrong with his fitness or form for long then he should stick with the T-20 format (IPL) and try to comeback. Devdutt is 20 years old so nothing to worry about as he has plenty of time. He's left hander opener so in future he will come easily in the team if he continues with his form.

[pakhitheboss]

The selection of Prasidh Krishna doesn't make any sense. He was not that impressive during last year's IPL. Went for plenty of runs, although he had a couple of good outings. Also I believed that Ishan Kishan deserved a chance in the ODI squad as well, as he was dropped from the T20 playing XI after just two matches. One of the positives is the return of T Natarajan, who will add more variety to the otherwise monotonous bowling attack.

Prasidh Krishna inclusion in the squad is for ODI series, T-20 or IPL record doesn't matter atm because he has been performing quite well in the Vijay Hazare Trophy consistently. 3 back to back good season, hence maiden India call up.

If Vijay Hazare Trophy was the main reason for Krishna's inclusion in the ODI then I fear Prithvi Shaw will not be getting a another chance in the future. His performance in Vijay Hazare Trophy was quite good but his inconsistency in International cricket might be the reason he did not get a chance this time or may be in the future.

To those who think Indian team is weak and is struggling, today's batting is a reply to your negative thoughts. This indian batting line-up has proved once again they have talent. What an incredible batting by Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli, as a fan I would want them to open the Indian innings in the world cup. Yadav has made it clear that he is the number 3 . I little bit of shuffling and the English team is on the downside. I hope the Indian bowlers do their job efficiently.

[Sithara007]

I doubt if he's going to feature in domestic regularly. Delhi already dropped him after couple of games in Vijay hazare trophy, if something goes wrong with his fitness or form for long then he should stick with the T-20 format (IPL) and try to comeback. Devdutt is 20 years old so nothing to worry about as he has plenty of time. He's left hander opener so in future he will come easily in the team if he continues with his form.

Apart from one century against Maharashtra, Shikhar was disappointing during the Vijay Hazare Trophy. Also, a lot of competition is there for slots in the Delhi top order. A number of younger players are coming through, and the selectors are in a dilemma to whether give chances to Shikhar at the place of these youngsters or keep with the status quo. There are promising youngsters fighting for a slot in the Delhi side, such as Dhruv Shorey, Nitish Rana and Himmat Singh.

[eaLiTy]

Bumrah and Pandey will be missed by indians in the series. However it a good opportunity for Krishna and Surya Yadav to proof themselves in the tournament and make a permanent spot in the national team.

Is Jasprit Bumrah staying away from the team due to his marriage, he skipped the final Test and the T20 series and now the ODI. Good to see many youngsters getting the opportunity.

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

I wish Devdutt Padikkal got selected as he was in great form and even if there is no slot in the playing eleven he should be selected as scoring 4 centuries back to back is not a small feat and he is really young and a selection would have elevated his confidence.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Is Jasprit Bumrah staying away from the team due to his marriage, he skipped the final Test and the T20 series and now the ODI. Good to see many youngsters getting the opportunity.

Anyway, the selectors will be happy. Else they would be in big trouble. So many good pace bowlers to select from, and there is room only for 3-4 players. And it is going to be even tougher when Shami will be fit. Shami, Bumrah, Shardul, Natarajan, Saini and Siraj forms the first tier, from which only around 50% can be included in the squad. And Shardul have the advantage here, as he is the best batsmen among all of them.

[JSRAW]

India's 18 Men Squad ODI team against England.

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https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1372774961484468224

England also announced their 14 men squad for the first match. Jofra is missing due to injury.

Bumrah and Pandey will be missed by indians in the series. However it a good opportunity for Krishna and Surya Yadav to proof themselves in the tournament and make a permanent spot in the national team.

Is Jasprit Bumrah staying away from the team due to his marriage, he skipped the final Test and the T20 series and now the ODI. Good to see many youngsters getting the opportunity.

As you can see the 18 men squad, already 4 openers are sitting there (KL Rahul, Rohit, Sikhar, Gill). Hard to add another opener in the squad, competition is tough but Prithvi Shaw/Devdutt Padikkal time will come as Sikhar Dhawan seems to losing his charm nowadays. They will move up to the ranks anyway in the next 2-3 years.

I wish Devdutt Padikkal got selected as he was in great form and even if there is no slot in the playing eleven he should be selected as scoring 4 centuries back to back is not a small feat and he is really young and a selection would have elevated his confidence.

Yup Bumrah is away due to his marriage.

Consistency, performance sab theek hai lekin yeh batao kitne opener rakhoge 1 team mein? Sare ke sare CEO hi rakh loge toh majdoori wala (Bowling) kaam kaun karega company mein bhai.  

[cosmicbtc]

Consistency, performance sab theek hai lekin yeh batao kitne opener rakhoge 1 team mein? Sare ke sare CEO hi rakh loge toh majdoori wala (Bowling) kaam kaun karega company mein bhai.  

I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

[bryant.coleman]

I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

Rohit is more or less certain and the only question is regarding the other opener. Shubman Gill should get the nod, although Kohli and Shastri are not in favor of dropping KL Rahul. Gill hasn't played T20Is recently, and his performance during the recent Test series against England was not up to the mark. Everything will depend on his performance for Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL, which will start in around two weeks from now.

[JSRAW]

I think Gill and Rohit will open for India. Dhawan doesn't deserve any more chance, Rahul is a good option but should start with Gill and Rohit.

Rohit is more or less certain and the only question is regarding the other opener. Shubman Gill should get the nod, although Kohli and Shastri are not in favor of dropping KL Rahul. Gill hasn't played T20Is recently, and his performance during the recent Test series against England was not up to the mark. Everything will depend on his performance for Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL, which will start in around two weeks from now.

Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.

[Sithara007]

Left-Right combination is important so i think Kohli & co would prefer Shikhar over Gill and KL Rahul, at least for the 1st match. If Shikhar fails there then KL Rahul would get 2nd chance over Gill.

Shikhar Dhawan is in really bad shape and even his domestic team has decided to drop him. KL Rahul also seems to be going through a rough patch. If they want left-right combination, then rather than taking it as an excuse to include out of form players such as Dhawan/Rahul, they should go for Ishan Kishan or Devdutt Padikkal. Or Rohit can be dropped to the no.3 position to include Shubman Gill or Prithvi Shaw.