ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Such expectation was expected from the beginning and which was reflected in the 5th match. Pakistan won by a huge margin. Pakistan gave a target of 314 runs, they were all out for only 131 runs. But at this point, I think Pakistan cricket is focused on the Asia Cup and World Cup cricket. They want to make some of their players for the desired tournament. Moreover, the game that is currently being played that was not much important for Pakistan.

LOL.. there is no guarantee that the Asia Cup will take place as planned. On 28th May, there is an informal meeting between the officials from the BCCI, SLCB, BCB and ACB to decide on the future of this year's Asia Cup. The tournament was originally scheduled to take place in Pakistan this September, but the BCCI has threatened to pull out if the matches are being hosted by Pakistan. PCB is still pushing for the hybrid model, there 4 out of the total of 13 matches will take place in Pakistan, and the remaining will be shifted to one of the overseas venues.

Asia cup is a big question mark and India is just dragging this issue from months , yes ipl is going on but still they can decide things about other upcoming tournaments.
Let's hope for the best for other teams and hopefully this tournament takes place at its time . Many countries look forward to Asia cup as its important for them specially Nepal who have qualified for Asia cup .

[Patrol69]

Such expectation was expected from the beginning and which was reflected in the 5th match. Pakistan won by a huge margin. Pakistan gave a target of 314 runs, they were all out for only 131 runs. But at this point, I think Pakistan cricket is focused on the Asia Cup and World Cup cricket. They want to make some of their players for the desired tournament. Moreover, the game that is currently being played that was not much important for Pakistan.

LOL.. there is no guarantee that the Asia Cup will take place as planned. On 28th May, there is an informal meeting between the officials from the BCCI, SLCB, BCB and ACB to decide on the future of this year's Asia Cup. The tournament was originally scheduled to take place in Pakistan this September, but the BCCI has threatened to pull out if the matches are being hosted by Pakistan. PCB is still pushing for the hybrid model, there 4 out of the total of 13 matches will take place in Pakistan, and the remaining will be shifted to one of the overseas venues.

Asia cup is a big question mark and India is just dragging this issue from months , yes ipl is going on but still they can decide things about other upcoming tournaments.
Let's hope for the best for other teams and hopefully this tournament takes place at its time . Many countries look forward to Asia cup as its important for them specially Nepal who have qualified for Asia cup .

Although the Asia Cup was discussed, the political conflict between India and Pakistan is not over yet. India's Cricket Board has confirmed that it will not tour Pakistan. The president of Pakistan Cricket Board said that if India does not come to Pakistan and play the Asia Cup tournament, then Pakistan and India will not play the World Cup. This year's Asia Cup has been thrown into uncertainty due to India's punishment by Pakistan. 
Due to India's behavior, Pakistan took steps to conduct the Hybrid Model Asia Cup but Bangladesh Sri Lanka did not agree to it as it would be very difficult for Sri Lanka and Bangladesh to play the matches if the Hybrid Model Asia Cup. Till now everyone is waiting for the final decision. Since Pakistan has ensured maximum security in cricket, I think there should be no doubt about India visiting Pakistan.

[Sithara007]

Asia cup is a big question mark and India is just dragging this issue from months , yes ipl is going on but still they can decide things about other upcoming tournaments.
Let's hope for the best for other teams and hopefully this tournament takes place at its time . Many countries look forward to Asia cup as its important for them specially Nepal who have qualified for Asia cup .

Nepal will be the biggest losers in case this edition of the Asia Cup gets cancelled. Because they are getting the opportunity to play against test nations after almost a decade. The last time was in 2014 (T20 World Cup), when they played against Afghanistan and Bangladesh (won against Afghanistan and then lost the match against Bangladesh by 8 wickets). This time they have a very young and promising squad, comprising of youngsters such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rohit Paudel, Lalit Rajbanshi and Kushal Bhurtel. If the Asia Cup goes ahead as per the plan, then they will get one match each against India and Pakistan.

[Litzki1990]

Amazing. What a great performance from Pakistan. Omair Yousuf performance is admirable he made 89 runs and remain not out. On the balling hand of Pakistan. Shahnawaz Dahani and Qasim Akram got 3 3 wickets. Qasim Akram bowling was really good in this match because he got 3 wickets in 3.4 overs. And now the series is at 3-2. The last match is important for Pakistan. If Pakistan will win so the series will be equal. So let's wait for the last ODI match.

Pakistan should not worry about winning the series. This series is more about preparing for the upcoming tournaments (Asia Cup and the ODI World Cup), and giving opportunities for some of the emerging players. They should not bother about losing a few matches, as the Zimbabwe team is a full strength regular squad. I am still concerned about the lack of a quality spinner in the Pakistani squad. Apart from a few allrounders, they don't have a genuine spinner who can really trouble the opposition batsmen. In this series also, most of their top performers were pacers.

Watching the fifth ODI between these two teams it feels like the old Pakistan suddenly came back. Pakistan performed really well in this match. They have scored a really good amount of runs and they have also been able to bowl really well. Of course, they should not be having any tension because of this series. After all, this is just a preparation for the world cup. They are trying out new things and it is good to see that they finally have got a very convincing result in favor of themselves. Spin bowling is going to be an issue for Pakistani in the world cup I believe because in the middle overs, it is really important.

After losing three of the first four matches, it looked like Pakistan might lose the next two matches but in the fifth ODI, Pakistan turned around strongly. 

In the fifth ODI match, as Pakistan came back in a great way in batting, they also showed great skill in bowling. However, Pakistan is one win behind Zimbabwe so far. 

The last match is very important for Pakistan because if Pakistan lose the last match then they will lose the series 4-2. So Pakistan must win this match to level the series. 

The way Pakistan players performed with confidence in the fifth ODI, we hope to see the same performance from them in the sixth ODI.

[Dimitri94]

Such expectation was expected from the beginning and which was reflected in the 5th match. Pakistan won by a huge margin. Pakistan gave a target of 314 runs, they were all out for only 131 runs. But at this point, I think Pakistan cricket is focused on the Asia Cup and World Cup cricket. They want to make some of their players for the desired tournament. Moreover, the game that is currently being played that was not much important for Pakistan.

LOL.. there is no guarantee that the Asia Cup will take place as planned. On 28th May, there is an informal meeting between the officials from the BCCI, SLCB, BCB and ACB to decide on the future of this year's Asia Cup. The tournament was originally scheduled to take place in Pakistan this September, but the BCCI has threatened to pull out if the matches are being hosted by Pakistan. PCB is still pushing for the hybrid model, there 4 out of the total of 13 matches will take place in Pakistan, and the remaining will be shifted to one of the overseas venues.

Asia cup is a big question mark and India is just dragging this issue from months , yes ipl is going on but still they can decide things about other upcoming tournaments.
Let's hope for the best for other teams and hopefully this tournament takes place at its time . Many countries look forward to Asia cup as its important for them specially Nepal who have qualified for Asia cup .

Although the Asia Cup was discussed, the political conflict between India and Pakistan is not over yet. India's Cricket Board has confirmed that it will not tour Pakistan. The president of Pakistan Cricket Board said that if India does not come to Pakistan and play the Asia Cup tournament, then Pakistan and India will not play the World Cup. This year's Asia Cup has been thrown into uncertainty due to India's punishment by Pakistan. 
Due to India's behavior, Pakistan took steps to conduct the Hybrid Model Asia Cup but Bangladesh Sri Lanka did not agree to it as it would be very difficult for Sri Lanka and Bangladesh to play the matches if the Hybrid Model Asia Cup. Till now everyone is waiting for the final decision. Since Pakistan has ensured maximum security in cricket, I think there should be no doubt about India visiting Pakistan.

At present, I think there is no problem in the cricket of these two countries. Now it is considered as a political problem. However, cricket is the point of contention or an apple of discord. If Pakistan provides full security then India should play . Again when the World Cup will be held in India Pakistan will also go there. India is one of the leading country of cricket there is no country to compare with them. If the two countries don't play, there will be a lack of excitement and pleasure in the game which will make people more negative towards the world cricket. Both the countries should come back from this hard line and should be allowed to proceed at it's own pace.

[mm2543363580]

Asia cup is a big question mark and India is just dragging this issue from months , yes ipl is going on but still they can decide things about other upcoming tournaments.
Let's hope for the best for other teams and hopefully this tournament takes place at its time . Many countries look forward to Asia cup as its important for them specially Nepal who have qualified for Asia cup .

Nepal will be the biggest losers in case this edition of the Asia Cup gets cancelled. Because they are getting the opportunity to play against test nations after almost a decade. The last time was in 2014 (T20 World Cup), when they played against Afghanistan and Bangladesh (won against Afghanistan and then lost the match against Bangladesh by 8 wickets). This time they have a very young and promising squad, comprising of youngsters such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rohit Paudel, Lalit Rajbanshi and Kushal Bhurtel. If the Asia Cup goes ahead as per the plan, then they will get one match each against India and Pakistan.

Hopefully while taking any decisions ACC and BCCI look into all these things and do what is good for everyone.  Cancelling it is not the solution hybrid model is the good option and India  will not come to Pakistan and their matches will be played on neural venue .
This is going to be tough to accommodate like this realistically but let's hope for the best.

[Sithara007]

Hopefully while taking any decisions ACC and BCCI look into all these things and do what is good for everyone.  Cancelling it is not the solution hybrid model is the good option and India  will not come to Pakistan and their matches will be played on neural venue .
This is going to be tough to accommodate like this realistically but let's hope for the best.

PCB has solid reason to be disappointed. This time, it was their turn to host the Asia Cup. But then, none of the other Asian boards (SLCB, BCB and ACB) has the courage to antagonize the BCCI. Hybrid model is also not the ideal solution. It just creates added complexities related to scheduling and logistics. And given the timeframe, the weather conditions in the middle-east may not be suitable for hosting such an important tournament. In all probability, Sri Lanka is likely to host all, or some of the matches. Just hoping that the tournament will not get cancelled.

[MusaPk]

PCB has solid reason to be disappointed. This time, it was their turn to host the Asia Cup. But then, none of the other Asian boards (SLCB, BCB and ACB) has the courage to antagonize the BCCI. Hybrid model is also not the ideal solution. It just creates added complexities related to scheduling and logistics. And given the timeframe, the weather conditions in the middle-east may not be suitable for hosting such an important tournament. In all probability, Sri Lanka is likely to host all, or some of the matches. Just hoping that the tournament will not get cancelled.

I heard Najam Sethi saying that PCB will lose 3 million usd in case Asia cup is not hosted by PCB and under given circumstances 3 million USD is quite a money for PCB. BCCI on the other hand is in no mood of coming to Pakistan. A decision will be made about Asia cup on final of IPL where India, SL, Bangladesh and Afghan rep will be present and final decision will be made after consulting PCB. PCB has proposed a hybrid model and it will only be executed if BCCI approves that. 

[eaLiTy]

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I heard Najam Sethi saying that PCB will lose 3 million usd in case Asia cup is not hosted by PCB and under given circumstances 3 million USD is quite a money for PCB. BCCI on the other hand is in no mood of coming to Pakistan. A decision will be made about Asia cup on final of IPL where India, SL, Bangladesh and Afghan rep will be present and final decision will be made after consulting PCB. PCB has proposed a hybrid model and it will only be executed if BCCI approves that. 

Personally i would love to see India and Pakistan matches as they are really competitive and a great experience for the sports fans but the government will be using this as a leverage for their political gains and with the right wing government India is having, i doubt there will be any leniency into this issue, moving India's matches to a neutral ground is a good option and i wish we will see that happen.

[jostorres]

Nepal will be the biggest losers in case this edition of the Asia Cup gets cancelled. Because they are getting the opportunity to play against test nations after almost a decade. The last time was in 2014 (T20 World Cup), when they played against Afghanistan and Bangladesh (won against Afghanistan and then lost the match against Bangladesh by 8 wickets). This time they have a very young and promising squad, comprising of youngsters such as Sandeep Lamichhane, Rohit Paudel, Lalit Rajbanshi and Kushal Bhurtel. If the Asia Cup goes ahead as per the plan, then they will get one match each against India and Pakistan.

Hopefully while taking any decisions ACC and BCCI look into all these things and do what is good for everyone.  Cancelling it is not the solution hybrid model is the good option and India  will not come to Pakistan and their matches will be played on neural venue .
This is going to be tough to accommodate like this realistically but let's hope for the best.

As we have history of ACC most chances BCCI will not look into any other board's problem they will go ahead with their own plan which is just they will never go Pakistan for playing cricket in current circumstances and if other boards will agree then surely this event will be held in Sri Lanka without Pakistan now time is running out with 28th May we have last game of IPL then India will go ahead to England for final of the WTC and their other schedule is also already settled so if we have no Asia cup then surely it's better instead of having boycott from any country even this is the biggest disappointment for the Nepal which is currently emerging country in this region specially with native players which is the best part from them.

[BobK71]

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I heard Najam Sethi saying that PCB will lose 3 million usd in case Asia cup is not hosted by PCB and under given circumstances 3 million USD is quite a money for PCB. BCCI on the other hand is in no mood of coming to Pakistan. A decision will be made about Asia cup on final of IPL where India, SL, Bangladesh and Afghan rep will be present and final decision will be made after consulting PCB. PCB has proposed a hybrid model and it will only be executed if BCCI approves that. 

Personally i would love to see India and Pakistan matches as they are really competitive and a great experience for the sports fans but the government will be using this as a leverage for their political gains and with the right wing government India is having, i doubt there will be any leniency into this issue, moving India's matches to a neutral ground is a good option and i wish we will see that happen.

The whole world is waiting to watch India Pakistan match. When these two teams start cricket, it is difficult to accommodate spectators in any venue. The gallery is also fulled when there is an international match between these two countries. However, if the governments of both countries prevent this match, then the match cannot be conducted. If India has any security concerns then playing their matches at a different venue and it can be considered as a good solution. But in this case both teams should agree.

[ThemePen]

Zimbabwe S vs Pakistan S

As all of you know that yesterday these two teams played the last 6th ODI match. And agai Zimbabwe won the match. The match was interesting. Zimbabwe made 385 runs and gave 7 wickets. Pakistan played and made only 353 runs and got all out. Pakistan really tried well to win but unfortunately the luck was in the favor of Zimbabwe. And the Series is now finished with 4-2. Excellent performance from Zimbabwe team.

[elevates]

Zimbabwe S vs Pakistan S

As all of you know that yesterday these two teams played the last 6th ODI match. And agai Zimbabwe won the match. The match was interesting. Zimbabwe made 385 runs and gave 7 wickets. Pakistan played and made only 353 runs and got all out. Pakistan really tried well to win but unfortunately the luck was in the favor of Zimbabwe. And the Series is now finished with 4-2. Excellent performance from Zimbabwe team.

That means Zimbabwe won the series against Pakistan! That is completely the opposite what I expected from Pakistani team. If the new talents aren't able to defeat the new talents of Zimbabwe then the PCB needs to introspect. Not all Pakistani national team player will be able to play in some years now. These players need to be replaced by good talents. If this is the condition then nothing is going good with Pakistan.

[ZAINmalik75]

If the new talents aren't able to defeat the new talents of Zimbabwe then the PCB needs to introspect. Not all Pakistani national team player will be able to play in some years now. These players need to be replaced by good talents. If this is the condition then nothing is going good with Pakistan.

Absolutely but I think due to bad luck and some bad performance of few player should not allow us to blame entire team, as if you watch out the entire series then surely you will noticed some quality batters like Omair bin Yousaf who scored dozen of runs with a large number of half centuries and centuries, also some other young talent like Haseeb Ullah and many more. S.Dahani were top wicket taker of the series but in recent match he leak around 100 runs in his 10 overs. So the best possible solution will be to just replaced the bad performer with some new emerging star of talent hunt.

[pakhitheboss]

Absolutely but I think due to bad luck and some bad performance of few player should not allow us to blame entire team, as if you watch out the entire series then surely you will noticed some quality batters like Omair bin Yousaf who scored dozen of runs with a large number of half centuries and centuries, also some other young talent like Haseeb Ullah and many more. S.Dahani were top wicket taker of the series but in recent match he leak around 100 runs in his 10 overs. So the best possible solution will be to just replaced the bad performer with some new emerging star of talent hunt.

Thankfully this series was not official but introspection is required by the PCB. A few players from this team have good experience in playing in PSL with International players. They also did not perform well. I reckon Pakistan was over confident against Zimbabwe which led to such a pathetic performance.

[Patrol69]

Zimbabwe S vs Pakistan S

As all of you know that yesterday these two teams played the last 6th ODI match. And agai Zimbabwe won the match. The match was interesting. Zimbabwe made 385 runs and gave 7 wickets. Pakistan played and made only 353 runs and got all out. Pakistan really tried well to win but unfortunately the luck was in the favor of Zimbabwe. And the Series is now finished with 4-2. Excellent performance from Zimbabwe team.

That means Zimbabwe won the series against Pakistan! That is completely the opposite what I expected from Pakistani team. If the new talents aren't able to defeat the new talents of Zimbabwe then the PCB needs to introspect. Not all Pakistani national team player will be able to play in some years now. These players need to be replaced by good talents. If this is the condition then nothing is going good with Pakistan.

All the members who were in the Pakistan team were new in contrast to the Zimbabwean team who played against Pakistan but most of the players had experience of playing in the national team. Pakistan was completely behind in terms of experience in international cricket. Having lost the series against Zimbabwe, I never expect them to do well in the future. I have seen that there are many talented young players in the Pakistan team who have performed well but have not been able to lead the team to victory. The series against Zimbabwe has been lost but I have so much faith that this Pakistan will come back in a great way if they play with a new team.

[fuguebtc]

Absolutely but I think due to bad luck and some bad performance of few player should not allow us to blame entire team, as if you watch out the entire series then surely you will noticed some quality batters like Omair bin Yousaf who scored dozen of runs with a large number of half centuries and centuries, also some other young talent like Haseeb Ullah and many more. S.Dahani were top wicket taker of the series but in recent match he leak around 100 runs in his 10 overs. So the best possible solution will be to just replaced the bad performer with some new emerging star of talent hunt.

Thankfully this series was not official but introspection is required by the PCB. A few players from this team have good experience in playing in PSL with International players. They also did not perform well. I reckon Pakistan was over confident against Zimbabwe which led to such a pathetic performance.

I agree with @pakhitheboss. I think that Pakistan did not take this seriously at all. Because they thought it was going to be a win by default. And that's why they did not take Zimbabwe seriously. But of course, Zimbabwe did not treat this one as an unofficial series. They have actually gone into this series thinking that they have to compete properly. And they have done that beautifully. Pakistan has certainly not taken this seriously. But of course that cannot be an excuse.

[Webetcoins]

Absolutely but I think due to bad luck and some bad performance of few player should not allow us to blame entire team, as if you watch out the entire series then surely you will noticed some quality batters like Omair bin Yousaf who scored dozen of runs with a large number of half centuries and centuries, also some other young talent like Haseeb Ullah and many more. S.Dahani were top wicket taker of the series but in recent match he leak around 100 runs in his 10 overs. So the best possible solution will be to just replaced the bad performer with some new emerging star of talent hunt.

Thankfully this series was not official but introspection is required by the PCB. A few players from this team have good experience in playing in PSL with International players. They also did not perform well. I reckon Pakistan was over confident against Zimbabwe which led to such a pathetic performance.

I think here peoples need to understand this was unofficial tour from PCB for their youngsters which was doing good in domestic teams and have no chance for the national team as they play two unofficial test matches which was won by Pakistan and then have 6 ODI matches which was won by Zimbabwe with the score of 4 - 2 both teams done good work but at the end Zimbabwe which have services of few good players.

Right now PCB doing good job as they have one Pakistan Shaheen's on Zimbabwe tour with Pakistan U-19 on Bangladesh tour good practice and experience for the players which helps them in future as well even conditions are not good in Pakistan with political instability and economy both down, but they are having good time in this game.

[wiss19]

The whole world is waiting to watch India Pakistan match. When these two teams start cricket, it is difficult to accommodate spectators in any venue. The gallery is also fulled when there is an international match between these two countries. However, if the governments of both countries prevent this match, then the match cannot be conducted. If India has any security concerns then playing their matches at a different venue and it can be considered as a good solution. But in this case both teams should agree.

Right now, as things are going in Pakistan there is no chance for having matches between these two teams because time is running out and as ACC and BCCI are using their tactics most chances we will have no Asia Cup or if ACC will allow Sri Lanka then still most chances Pakistan will boycott this event with nothing is clear.
We will have matches between Pakistan vs India in World Cup which is going to play in India in October if Pakistan will go ahead for playing because as we have things right now nothing is clear about anything about Pakistan cricket.

For Asia Cup mostly peoples are feeling BCCI will allow for the hybrid model which is not going to work because in this case still there is chance for them to go to Pakistan for playing their final or semifinal which is not in their agenda right now this all is political and personal ego which is hurting this game but no one can do anything with these two countries.

[kro55]

The whole world is waiting to watch India Pakistan match. When these two teams start cricket, it is difficult to accommodate spectators in any venue. The gallery is also fulled when there is an international match between these two countries. However, if the governments of both countries prevent this match, then the match cannot be conducted. If India has any security concerns then playing their matches at a different venue and it can be considered as a good solution. But in this case both teams should agree.

Right now, as things are going in Pakistan there is no chance for having matches between these two teams because time is running out and as ACC and BCCI are using their tactics most chances we will have no Asia Cup or if ACC will allow Sri Lanka then still most chances Pakistan will boycott this event with nothing is clear.
We will have matches between Pakistan vs India in World Cup which is going to play in India in October if Pakistan will go ahead for playing because as we have things right now nothing is clear about anything about Pakistan cricket.

For Asia Cup mostly peoples are feeling BCCI will allow for the hybrid model which is not going to work because in this case still there is chance for them to go to Pakistan for playing their final or semifinal which is not in their agenda right now this all is political and personal ego which is hurting this game but no one can do anything with these two countries.

Pakistan should understand that they do not have the best situation in the country to host the Asia Cup right now. We can also say that Pakistan was looking for this opportunity to make some money. But of course, safety is a bigger issue in this matter. Participate in the Asia Cup regardless of the venue. At this moment it is also almost certain that the Asia Cup is not happening before the world cup at least. The world wants to see a match between India and Pakistan. But they will have to wait till the world cup to see that.