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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (25.2%)
Real Madrid - 76 (66.1%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (7%)
Total Voters: 115

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November 12, 2021, 06:06:03 PM
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Things can not be changed 100% after a few days. New coaches will bring more motivation, fresh training, working environment for players and can make short term positive effects. We can expect a little bit better results from Barcelona in coming weeks.

However, their honey moon with Xavi won't last long because their own problems can not be fixed too fast. I believe they will have honey moon because their quality is still good enough to bring win matches to them if they play with good mentality.

Look at Premier League, Manchester Untied, Ole came and brought short term good results but after 3 years, he fell down a lot there. I don't say Xavi will step on the same shoes of Ole, because they are different coaches and Xavi just begin his career in La Liga. Let's see this interesting debut of Xavi in Barcelona.

Obviously, Xavi cannot solve the global problems of Barcelona and, with such a squad, claim to win the championship or the Champions League, but if he at least puts the team in order and Barcelona starts to beat those whom it really should beat (for example Celta), then its lag behind the group the leaders will be reduced and there will be no danger that Barcelona will miss the next Champions League.
As for United, in my opinion this is a completely different case - having a great lineup, Ole cannot make a team look better than a strong middle peasant. This is absolutely unacceptable.

Barcelona is still in deep trouble in a lot of ways. I mean they had to sell their best player or should I say the best player in the world for their financial conditions. I don't think it can get worse than that. There is a lot for Xavi to work on and improve especially when he does not have the squad he wants.
But for Manchester United, the coach has almost everything he can ask for but still can't make things work and this is becoming a big problem for the team. I think at this point ole is just a liability that needs to be gotten rid of.

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November 12, 2021, 06:09:22 PM
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The leader Real Sociedad's next target is going to be Valencia in a home game. Comparing the recent forms of these teams, it is clearly seen that Real Sociedad are in a much better shape than their competitor. Valencia were able to win only one time in their last five La Liga games. Actually, they didn't have a bad start to the season but their recent performance is highly inadequate. And this is another difficult game for them. I expect Real Sociedad to maintain their good form and win this game.
Winning this match is very important for Real Sociedad, they are just a point ahead of Real Madrid and losing  or even drawing the game might lead to Sociedad losing their current position. Although, Is very obvious that Real Sociedad is in their best form, they didn't lost in any of their last 5 La Liga matches and have high probabilities is achieving 3 points against Valencia. However, Valencia performance in their last match was quite impressive, but, I don't think they will be able to withstand Real Sociedad in an away match.



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November 12, 2021, 07:52:23 PM
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So much hype around Sociedad...from where ? why ? They won't finish top 3 in LaLiga ...I can already see this and maybe they won't even finish top 4. Why do I believe this ? Because they had this run so many times in so many years and at some point they will start to lose a lot of games ...I've seen it before so most likely it will happen again starting with the Valencia game but on the same time I wish that someone else instead of real/atl madrid / barca to win the LaLiga this year.

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November 12, 2021, 08:06:33 PM
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So much hype around Sociedad...from where ? why ? They won't finish top 3 in LaLiga ...I can already see this and maybe they won't even finish top 4. Why do I believe this ? Because they had this run so many times in so many years and at some point they will start to lose a lot of games ...I've seen it before so most likely it will happen again starting with the Valencia game but on the same time I wish that someone else instead of real/atl madrid / barca to win the LaLiga this year.

Real sociedad have been doing well for sometime now, looking at there previous performance I have the believe they may win the match with Valencia or it maybe draw. I still doubt if Valencia can defeat  sociedad.
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November 12, 2021, 08:08:37 PM
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So much hype around Sociedad...from where ? why ? They won't finish top 3 in LaLiga ...I can already see this and maybe they won't even finish top 4. Why do I believe this ? Because they had this run so many times in so many years and at some point they will start to lose a lot of games ...I've seen it before so most likely it will happen again starting with the Valencia game but on the same time I wish that someone else instead of real/atl madrid / barca to win the LaLiga this year.

Real Sociedad is like a dark horse in the Spanish League, indeed the hype of its achievements since competing with full achievements until temporarily grabbing the first point. As you said in the previous league game, Real Sociedad did the same. Nothing is absolutely certain, the ball is round and the fate of the goddess of fortune is unpredictable. It could be that Real Sociedad will occupy the 3rd or 4th position this year.

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November 12, 2021, 08:17:13 PM
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Dembele was fined by Xavi for being 3 minutes late, this is a very important time for Xavi so anyone who is late will be fined including other staff, Xavi does put forward very strict rules of course this must be followed by other players, and if this continues reset I think Xavi will make Another decision.

Xavi has a very high social level meaning they know this legend applies when he is still playing at Barcelona.

Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/ousmane-dembele-fined-xavi-barcelona-training-late
LOL, Dembele was only 3 minute late but that will teach Dembele and the rest of the players to be disciplined another day. New coach, new rules because Xavi has a strong determination to discipline his players and staff. I haven't heard of many rule imposed on players by Koeman before but Xavi seem to have brought new change to his team and players with these rule and disciplinary sanction.

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November 12, 2021, 08:46:45 PM
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Xavi is already showing that he wants to bring barcelona back to the victories, it was a good move to bring daniel alvez, he must be analyzing the defensive issue and the attacking issue of barcelona that is very bad, we will see on the 20th when barcelona play against espanyol i hope the bookmakers don't put very low odds in favor of barcelona just because they brought Xavi, Man so far I can't believe that real society is in first place and has surpassed us, as a fan of real madrid I feel bad, real society is having so much luck to the point of being at the top.

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November 12, 2021, 09:10:46 PM
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LOL, Dembele was only 3 minute late but that will teach Dembele and the rest of the players to be disciplined another day. New coach, new rules because Xavi has a strong determination to discipline his players and staff. I haven't heard of many rule imposed on players by Koeman before but Xavi seem to have brought new change to his team and players with these rule and disciplinary sanction.
Even though I admire Xavi's determination to instill discipline in the team, I don't think that it is sufficient to take Barcelona out of their present poor form, neither do I think that it was a lack of discipline in the team when Koeman was in charge that made them play poorly and lose many games. Barcelona are in a sort of crisis at the moment, the quality on show is relatively low and the clubs heirarchy has a lot of problems in its hands that's it's yet to solve, all of this have to be resolved and the club able to bring in new talents before Barcelona can begin to perform at the level we've come to know them for in the past, discipline isn't just the problem, at the end of the day, it's the team with the better and more organized players that more often than not wins.

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November 12, 2021, 09:12:07 PM
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Xavi is already showing that he wants to bring barcelona back to the victories, it was a good move to bring daniel alvez, he must be analyzing the defensive issue and the attacking issue of barcelona that is very bad, we will see on the 20th when barcelona play against espanyol i hope the bookmakers don't put very low odds in favor of barcelona just because they brought Xavi, Man so far I can't believe that real society is in first place and has surpassed us, as a fan of real madrid I feel bad, real society is having so much luck to the point of being at the top.
Either the bookies will bet big or they really want to see their game first in this match. Because it is necessary to see the results of Xavi's training first. If it's good enough, the other matches will certainly promise to hold Barcelona. We need evidence from the teachings given, and need a few games, a draw from Celta Vigo can't guarantee anything for Barcelona.

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November 12, 2021, 09:33:53 PM
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Judging by the form that Real Sociedad is in right now I think they will beat Valencia without any problem.
I also think that Real Sociedad is the favorite team to beat Valencia in the next match. Besides playing at home, Real Sociedad performance is much better than Valencia performance. Real Sociedad is unbeatable in the last 5 matches, while Valencia only can win 1 time. It is a too different situation, Real Sociedad players seem to have the best form this year. Moreover, they are leading the table right now, they must try to maintain their position. So, I am sure that they will struggle all out to get 3 points at home.


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November 12, 2021, 09:57:11 PM
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So much hype around Sociedad...from where ? why ? They won't finish top 3 in LaLiga ...I can already see this and maybe they won't even finish top 4. Why do I believe this ? Because they had this run so many times in so many years and at some point they will start to lose a lot of games ...I've seen it before so most likely it will happen again starting with the Valencia game but on the same time I wish that someone else instead of real/atl madrid / barca to win the LaLiga this year.
Valencia has had a very poor start so far if you have been following. I think Real Sociedad has an edge over them. It's not just hype, but their form has been good. I think they will have a good fight till the end of the season, but certainly won't the first or second. The squad depth will betray them somehow.

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November 12, 2021, 09:58:08 PM
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I also admit that Xavi does not have enough experience to coach a big team like Barcelona. But Koeman was much more experienced. He has led the team to further decline. Xavi at least don't take Barcelona further down. He may not be experienced enough, but I believe he can blend in with the players very quickly. Able to develop young players more experienced. A coach like Xavi was needed to boost the morale of the young players.
Experience is important but the way you treat players is another thing that could make Xavi more successful than Koeman.
Koeman pushed some players out of Barca, made others feel neglected and with Messi leaving and injuries it became a sad story for the team. Now Xavi can bring back the necessary confidence for the team and with the actual talented players, they should start winning more frequently.. Hopefully..
I believe that it was the management that pushed some of the players out of Barcelona and not Koeman. I believe that players like Busquets and Pique will be asked to leave eventually as well by offering them a very small amount of money. And I have to say, I agree that Messi should have stayed and they should have sent other players away, if your limit is 200 million dollars a year, and Messi asks 199 million dollars, you give him that much money and then play youth players all 16 year old and get amateur contracts around Messi.

However in a world where he is gone, I believe that all these 30+ year old 10+ million euro players that doesn't change anything should be gone as well. Instead they could get younger players who would be fighting like crazy for that kind of money. Xavi will not run anyone away neither, some of them are even his teammates from back in the day, he will be great with them.

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November 12, 2021, 10:14:08 PM
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LOL, Dembele was only 3 minute late but that will teach Dembele and the rest of the players to be disciplined another day. New coach, new rules because Xavi has a strong determination to discipline his players and staff. I haven't heard of many rule imposed on players by Koeman before but Xavi seem to have brought new change to his team and players with these rule and disciplinary sanction.
Even though I admire Xavi's determination to instill discipline in the team, I don't think that it is sufficient to take Barcelona out of their present poor form, neither do I think that it was a lack of discipline in the team when Koeman was in charge that made them play poorly and lose many games. Barcelona are in a sort of crisis at the moment, the quality on show is relatively low and the clubs heirarchy has a lot of problems in its hands that's it's yet to solve, all of this have to be resolved and the club able to bring in new talents before Barcelona can begin to perform at the level we've come to know them for in the past, discipline isn't just the problem, at the end of the day, it's the team with the better and more organized players that more often than not wins.
I have predicted this since long time ago , that barcelona could be the next ac milan ... and yeah so far things are happening , especially if xavi didnt successfully lift barcelona form up to achieve something in the next couple of years, then the job would become the heaviest one , just like ac milan who require more than 10 years to backup ! to even make a comeback to the champions league.

xavi are in the middle of really great challenges , still ... money can clear things out, especially if you can land a player like mbappe and haaland at once!

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November 12, 2021, 10:56:58 PM
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Dembele was fined by Xavi for being 3 minutes late, this is a very important time for Xavi so anyone who is late will be fined including other staff, Xavi does put forward very strict rules of course this must be followed by other players, and if this continues reset I think Xavi will make Another decision.

Xavi has a very high social level meaning they know this legend applies when he is still playing at Barcelona.

Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/ousmane-dembele-fined-xavi-barcelona-training-late

It's about time someone introduced some discipline to the team. Despite the fact that he's a few years younger than the average coach, the team needs to afford him respect to an extent at least. I'm also hoping that he doesn't go overboard with the discipline till members of the team lose interest in working hard. I'm looking forward to seeing the team he would build here at camp Nou.

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November 12, 2021, 11:11:13 PM
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I have predicted this since long time ago , that barcelona could be the next ac milan ... and yeah so far things are happening , especially if xavi didnt successfully lift barcelona form up to achieve something in the next couple of years, then the job would become the heaviest one , just like ac milan who require more than 10 years to backup ! to even make a comeback to the champions league.

xavi are in the middle of really great challenges , still ... money can clear things out, especially if you can land a player like mbappe and haaland at once!

It's a tough task for Xavi and it's not as easy as the Manager imagined when signing Xavi for a fairly large fee. Therefore Xavi like it or not he is pressured to give his best. At least take the top 3 positions in the Spanish League. It's not easy to get through many obstacles while the Barcelona players are still monotonous with their method of play.

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November 12, 2021, 11:52:54 PM
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Experience is important but the way you treat players is another thing that could make Xavi more successful than Koeman.
Koeman pushed some players out of Barca, made others feel neglected and with Messi leaving and injuries it became a sad story for the team. Now Xavi can bring back the necessary confidence for the team and with the actual talented players, they should start winning more frequently.. Hopefully..

Yes, the way the previous coaches conducted with the player and especially the senior players were disappointing in my opinion. And with Xavi being a former Barca player, I think he will be able to handle the situation much better and have a better connection with his players. And the players will also respect Xavi as he is one of the legends of this very club. The player's morale should be better than before.
Dembele was fined by Xavi for being 3 minutes late, this is a very important time for Xavi so anyone who is late will be fined including other staff, Xavi does put forward very strict rules of course this must be followed by other players, and if this continues reset I think Xavi will make Another decision.

Xavi has a very high social level meaning they know this legend applies when he is still playing at Barcelona.

Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/ousmane-dembele-fined-xavi-barcelona-training-late
Xavi is not playing games, he had to do things Ike that to show to show how serious he is taking this job and so that players don't underestimate him, first impressions are really important, maybe this will help them wake-up, I think this really shows that Xavi came to Barcelona to make changes, help the team and leave his mark.

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November 13, 2021, 12:11:52 AM
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The game between Real Sociedad and Valencia can be another opportunity to maintain their lead in the standings for Real Sociedad. It is a home game for them and Valencia have been quite bad these days. It seems really hard for them to resist their strong opponent. I'm expecting a win by one goal for Real Sociedad.
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November 13, 2021, 06:44:02 AM
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Experience is important but the way you treat players is another thing that could make Xavi more successful than Koeman.
Koeman pushed some players out of Barca, made others feel neglected and with Messi leaving and injuries it became a sad story for the team. Now Xavi can bring back the necessary confidence for the team and with the actual talented players, they should start winning more frequently.. Hopefully..

Yes, the way the previous coaches conducted with the player and especially the senior players were disappointing in my opinion. And with Xavi being a former Barca player, I think he will be able to handle the situation much better and have a better connection with his players. And the players will also respect Xavi as he is one of the legends of this very club. The player's morale should be better than before.
Dembele was fined by Xavi for being 3 minutes late, this is a very important time for Xavi so anyone who is late will be fined including other staff, Xavi does put forward very strict rules of course this must be followed by other players, and if this continues reset I think Xavi will make Another decision.

Xavi has a very high social level meaning they know this legend applies when he is still playing at Barcelona.

Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/ousmane-dembele-fined-xavi-barcelona-training-late

This is a good news to hear, discipline actions taken and carried out.
This actions improves players,and the whole team will learn from this, I'm seeing another player going to the bench soon,it's no body but Jordi Alba.

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November 13, 2021, 07:18:36 AM
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Obviously, Xavi cannot solve the global problems of Barcelona and, with such a squad, claim to win the championship or the Champions League, but if he at least puts the team in order and Barcelona starts to beat those whom it really should beat (for example Celta), then its lag behind the group the leaders will be reduced and there will be no danger that Barcelona will miss the next Champions League.
As for United, in my opinion this is a completely different case - having a great lineup, Ole cannot make a team look better than a strong middle peasant. This is absolutely unacceptable.
The situation will not change over night, it will take time before we can give any verdict. After taking over as the manager of Barcelona, Xavi began taking action, notably approving Dani Alves' return to Barcelona next week after Xavi approved it. Nevertheless, I think Xavi should consider new players. Barca collapsed, but with time and ambition, good management can rebuild a new team. I hope that under him Barca becomes the most decorated football team once more.

I see no reason for such optimism. Without investment, there will be no result even with the most ingenious coach. If you remember, in its golden years, Barcelona bought any star player (and got rid of him with the same ease) - Ibrahimovic, Villa, Neymar, etc. I have not looked at the accounting records, but this may be the reason that Barcelona is now in a dire financial situation. One thing is for sure - in the coming years this will not happen again and Barcelona must rely on its own resourses.

The main tasks of Xavi is bring the positive air back to the club, then confidence and better results. Not title in near future and it is acceptable if Xavi can help Barcelona to maintain their good position on top and income. That's it for current period.

If Xavi succeeds with these tasks, Barcelona can think of title next 3 seasons when their finance improves more.

Maybe the situation will somehow change if the Super League is launched, maybe Barcelona's hopes are precisely this.

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November 13, 2021, 07:42:22 AM
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Xavi has now implemented quite strict rules for barcelona players.

10 xavi rules for barcelona players:

1. Players must arrive 90 minutes before practice.

2. The coaching staff must come 120 minutes or two hours early.

3. Players and staff are required to eat together at Ciutat Esportiva.

4. Fines are imposed on players, both minor and serious violations.

5. Penalties for payment of fines apply in multiples.

6. Not allowed to go home after 12 pm 48 hours before the match.

7. Starter position will be based entirely on performance in training.

8. Doing sports activities other than football.

9. During the current season, it is forbidden to do risky activities (extreme sports).

10. Players must always carry the good name of Barcelona on and off the pitch.



Source :ESPN Deportes

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