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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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November 10, 2021, 03:57:09 AM
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I don't understand why many of them expect something big from Xavi, because even though Xavi is a Barcelona legend it doesn't mean that it will guarantee to get Barcelona back to its best. There is no guarantee that a Legendary player who becomes a coach will succeed, there have been many examples of this. I'm just worried that when we expect too much it will be something of a disappointment to Xavi himself if Xavi can't give his best for Barcelona.
I'm sure that was Thierry Henry's mindset when he went to lead Monaco, then he got taught a lesson; "a great payer doesn't necessarily make a great manager always!. I am not expecting much this season because Barcelona don't have a strong team so might get unexpected result but should compromise on that very day. So let give him some more time to get more confident. He is going into a very difficult situation. It could cost him the admiration of his fans. Maybe he thinks that since everyone knows Barca are already in a bad situation, he can't be blamed too much.
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November 10, 2021, 08:02:33 AM
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Xavi already has a very good experience in Qatar, Xavi is also able to bring Al Sadd to the top of the standings, I am optimistic about the abilities he has, and is assisted by their experienced staff, I am very optimistic that Xavi is able to bring Barcelona back to the top of the standings, But everyone has to be patient and give Xavi a little space to build a team that Europe is afraid of..
don't forget that the level of clubs in Qatar is much lower than is spanish La Liga. Xavi doesn't have necessary experience as a coach in top leagues so I won't be so optimistic.
Surely this is going to be had some big impact on this all because Qatar is really different in soccer from Spain and La Liga even he is from Barcelona and understand this all but still he is going to manage a team which is in bad situation after Messi and financial issues also having some impact on them because they are already bringing some more pressure on their own after having Xavi as new manager.

Now his job is going to start after this International break with game against Espanyol at home it's could be good start for his career here at Barcelona but still it's very long way to go in this season having better end in league with next year's vision is also very important for club's financial situation because if they have bad result surely they are going to face more problems in future.

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November 10, 2021, 08:15:58 AM
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I don't understand why many of them expect something big from Xavi, because even though Xavi is a Barcelona legend it doesn't mean that it will guarantee to get Barcelona back to its best. There is no guarantee that a Legendary player who becomes a coach will succeed, there have been many examples of this. I'm just worried that when we expect too much it will be something of a disappointment to Xavi himself if Xavi can't give his best for Barcelona.
You may also doubt Guardiola during his time as Barcelona coach, but things ended well for them. Xavi doesn't have much experience as a coach as his coaching history only started in a few years with the Qatar League so there are doubts among fans and other observers to see him succeed in bringing Barcelona to the top. No problem, Xavi has chosen a better way of life in his coaching field as he now leads one of the best clubs in La Liga.

There are always good expectation and there are always situation that are not as expected. Without trying then we never know what he can do for the former club that made his name; Barcelona.

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November 10, 2021, 09:47:10 AM
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I'm sure that was Thierry Henry's mindset when he went to lead Monaco, then he got taught a lesson; "a great payer doesn't necessarily make a great manager always!. I am not expecting much this season because Barcelona don't have a strong team so might get unexpected result but should compromise on that very day. So let give him some more time to get more confident. He is going into a very difficult situation. It could cost him the admiration of his fans. Maybe he thinks that since everyone knows Barca are already in a bad situation, he can't be blamed too much.

I could not agree more. People think coaching and managing should be natural efforts for great footballers but it's different on the field and off the field, especially if you've never been the core captain of your team. Even John Terry knows his captaincy is a good foundation but he needs to be patient. Same as Steven Gerrard who many times refused a big job because he knew he needs experience.

Barca don't need trophies right now so that's fine. They need a stable ground to step on, and I do think their new man now has exactly that. A temporary solution for the next 2/3 years.

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November 10, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
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Barca don't need trophies right now so that's fine. They need a stable ground to step on, and I do think their new man now has exactly that. A temporary solution for the next 2/3 years.

I agree with you. Barcelona's goal now should not be the title. If they dream of winning the title, it is almost unreal now. The condition of their team is very bad, and they are far behind. Their goal now should be to make the team more stable and qualify to play in the Champions League next season. Although Xavi is not experienced enough, he can make the team more stable by establishing friendly relations with the players.

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November 10, 2021, 12:16:42 PM
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I don't understand why many of them expect something big from Xavi, because even though Xavi is a Barcelona legend it doesn't mean that it will guarantee to get Barcelona back to its best. There is no guarantee that a Legendary player who becomes a coach will succeed, there have been many examples of this. I'm just worried that when we expect too much it will be something of a disappointment to Xavi himself if Xavi can't give his best for Barcelona.
Xavi can have success like Zidane in Real Madrid because they are too smart midfielders. In my opinion, coaches who have player career in midfielder position has more advantage than others who player at defense or attacking position. Because in midfield, they can more easily to observe the overal situation. How tactics works, how opponents successfully break their defense system.

I can not say about Xavi career as a coach in Barcelona and I can only wish him luck.

I agree with you. Barcelona's goal now should not be the title. If they dream of winning the title, it is almost unreal now. The condition of their team is very bad, and they are far behind. Their goal now should be to make the team more stable and qualify to play in the Champions League next season. Although Xavi is not experienced enough, he can make the team more stable by establishing friendly relations with the players.
The priority of Barcelona and Xavi should be enforce players to be more actively and hard-working in trainings. There are rumor that in the past few years, the severity of training in Barcelona is not too high and it probably affected their results.

Moreover, Xavi is aiming at get rid of the importance and effects of legendary players in the club, begin with Pique, Alba. He knows that the time of those players is ending but Barcelona must use them for 2 to 3 more seasons. However, they should be used in a way with which they are not barriers for the club as well as growth of young players.

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November 10, 2021, 12:45:04 PM
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It's true, this impact is felt especially in the country I live in right now.
In the past few years, La Liga's enthusiasm has been very intense here, especially during El Clasico matches and the rivalry between Messi and Ronaldo.
But after they left Real Madrid and Barcelona this intense enthusiasm slowly disappeared and this was exacerbated by Barcelona's performance this year which made La Liga even more sidelined.
Don't ignore Barcelona so soon. Now they have brought home the Xavi that Barcelona fans have been waiting for. Xavi can bring back the philosophy of the Barcelona game that was lost so far on the pitch, there is a new spirit on the faces of the players and supporters even though at this time they have to work hard to improve it slowly.
It's true, Xavi is expected to be able to bring fresh air to Barcelona because now they are like a boat that doesn't know where to go and tossed around in the open waters.
but now barcelona will still not be like before, it will take at least the next few seasons to make Barcelona compact and superior as before.
now their focus is still divided between making their performance better and thinking about paying off debts that are getting bigger and bigger.
and this is also a challenge for xavi with the current situation can he make a good change for barcelona.
I don't understand why many of them expect something big from Xavi, because even though Xavi is a Barcelona legend it doesn't mean that it will guarantee to get Barcelona back to its best. There is no guarantee that a Legendary player who becomes a coach will succeed, there have been many examples of this. I'm just worried that when we expect too much it will be something of a disappointment to Xavi himself if Xavi can't give his best for Barcelona.
it's true that I myself do have very high expectations with xavi at this time.
not without reason, I feel that Xavi is quite good at Alsaad even though the performance in Barcelona has not been seen and Barcelona is different from Alsaad but Xavi's leadership seems to match Barcelona.
On the other hand, as you said, there is no guarantee that when a club legend trains it will be successful and there are many legends who coached their former club and failed like Koeman before and ole at MU, but don't forget the legends who did successfully train their former clubs like Pep in the barcelona era a few years ago or zidane at Real madrid.
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November 10, 2021, 12:47:42 PM
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I agree with you. Barcelona's goal now should not be the title. If they dream of winning the title, it is almost unreal now. The condition of their team is very bad, and they are far behind. Their goal now should be to make the team more stable and qualify to play in the Champions League next season. Although Xavi is not experienced enough, he can make the team more stable by establishing friendly relations with the players.
The priority of Barcelona and Xavi should be enforce players to be more actively and hard-working in trainings. There are rumor that in the past few years, the severity of training in Barcelona is not too high and it probably affected their results.

Moreover, Xavi is aiming at get rid of the importance and effects of legendary players in the club, begin with Pique, Alba. He knows that the time of those players is ending but Barcelona must use them for 2 to 3 more seasons. However, they should be used in a way with which they are not barriers for the club as well as growth of young players.

Xavi is a legendary player of Barcelona. He will definitely work for the good of the team. His feelings towards the team will definitely be different from other coaches. Xavi should now focus more on young players. He need to focus on how to make young people more experienced and how to get better performance from them. Barcelona's financial situation is very bad now. So it will benefit Barcelona in every way to get young experienced players to join the team.

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I agree with you. Barcelona's goal now should not be the title. If they dream of winning the title, it is almost unreal now. The condition of their team is very bad, and they are far behind. Their goal now should be to make the team more stable and qualify to play in the Champions League next season. Although Xavi is not experienced enough, he can make the team more stable by establishing friendly relations with the players.
I see that Xavi wants to return discipline to the team, and for this he has already introduced a number of rules, such as: football players must come to training half an hour before it starts, eat only at the base under the supervision of nutritionists, the players must come back home no later than midnight a few days before the match. He also returned the system of penalties, which was canceled back in 2017. Discipline is good, but I don't know how much it will help to establish friendly relations between the team and the coach.

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November 10, 2021, 01:14:16 PM
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I see that Xavi wants to return discipline to the team, and for this he has already introduced a number of rules, such as: football players must come to training half an hour before it starts, eat only at the base under the supervision of nutritionists, the players must come back home no later than midnight a few days before the match.
More disciplined and more serious training. They are fundamental factors to help Barcelona to come back. Players like Dembele will not like this change because he has never shown his professional in the club, after a few years there. He has issues with injuries but his professional is not good that constrains his career so much.

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He also returned the system of penalties, which was canceled back in 2017. Discipline is good, but I don't know how much it will help to establish friendly relations between the team and the coach.
What did you imply about the system of penalties? Did you mean that Barcelona stopped training with penalty shot since 2017?

I can not imagine if it is real approach in their training. Penalty is very good chance to score goal so if they did not train it for their players, it sucks certainly. If it is true, I now can understand why Barcelona missed many penalties.

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November 10, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
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It was a really unfortunate and bad game weekend for Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Each of them got a 3-3 result in their games and let the wins slipped away from their hands. Because each of them had big score advantages before it became 3-3. But they couldn't maintain these advantages and it costed them a comfortable victory. While they were in this condition, Real Sociedad, Real Madrid and Sevilla all managed to win clear victories and pulled a little more away from Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Barcelona are already out of the title race that's for sure.
Fighting for the title and Barcelona. This serial had already stopped intriguing at the very beginning of the season after several matches. Already then it was clear that Barcelona was not feeling well and there were changes in the team, plus the coach and pressure from the fans, from which neither they nor the team would feel better. In short, God willing, Barça will finish in the top five, which is likely to be, and from next season will begin to change

It is really sad to see a strong and legendary team like Barcelona being in such condition now. They are in a revolution phase in terms of their squad now. Players need to get accustomed to each other fully first and then they should be able to start playing as the real Barcelona. And it looks like it will take some time for us to witness them recovering and getting back to their old days. It is very hard for them to end the season at a top place in this season. But I'm hopeful about the next season.

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November 10, 2021, 02:19:37 PM
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Xavi is a legendary player of Barcelona. He will definitely work for the good of the team. His feelings towards the team will definitely be different from other coaches. Xavi should now focus more on young players. He need to focus on how to make young people more experienced and how to get better performance from them. Barcelona's financial situation is very bad now. So it will benefit Barcelona in every way to get young experienced players to join the team.

Barcelona often creates quality young players from their youth academy. Maybe Xavi can find the figure who will be the star player again from their youth academy. As you mentioned they don't have enough money to buy star players, academy is the only way for Xavi to get players without spending a lot of money.

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November 10, 2021, 02:24:55 PM
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Xavi is a legendary player of Barcelona. He will definitely work for the good of the team. His feelings towards the team will definitely be different from other coaches. Xavi should now focus more on young players. He need to focus on how to make young people more experienced and how to get better performance from them. Barcelona's financial situation is very bad now. So it will benefit Barcelona in every way to get young experienced players to join the team.

Barcelona often creates quality young players from their youth academy. Maybe Xavi can find the figure who will be the star player again from their youth academy. As you mentioned they don't have enough money to buy star players, academy is the only way for Xavi to get players without spending a lot of money.

maybe in the last few years the la Masia academy deserves our thumbs up where they have succeeded in producing talented talents such as Xavi Hernandez and Lionel Messi, but for today we can say Xavi will be very difficult in concocting the Barcelona squad in the midst of limitations players belonging to the catalan team where they can only compete in the middle board and pa showing the performance as usual they did in the previous few seasons, maybe with the arrival of Xavi Hernandez Nou camp can at least raise the motivation of Barcelona's young players who are currently so slumped when Lionel Messi left for PSG
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November 10, 2021, 02:25:02 PM
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I agree with you. Barcelona's goal now should not be the title. If they dream of winning the title, it is almost unreal now. The condition of their team is very bad, and they are far behind. Their goal now should be to make the team more stable and qualify to play in the Champions League next season. Although Xavi is not experienced enough, he can make the team more stable by establishing friendly relations with the players.

There is a great danger that Xavi will continue to focus on tiki taki as he remembers from the past (both Barcelona and the Spanish national team) that it brings victories. But this requires a phenomenal set of performers (which Barcelona does not have now), plus one must take into account the fact that football is developing and this tactic can hardly be called effective now.

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November 10, 2021, 02:30:50 PM
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Xavi is a legendary player of Barcelona. He will definitely work for the good of the team. His feelings towards the team will definitely be different from other coaches. Xavi should now focus more on young players. He need to focus on how to make young people more experienced and how to get better performance from them. Barcelona's financial situation is very bad now. So it will benefit Barcelona in every way to get young experienced players to join the team.

Barcelona often creates quality young players from their youth academy. Maybe Xavi can find the figure who will be the star player again from their youth academy. As you mentioned they don't have enough money to buy star players, academy is the only way for Xavi to get players without spending a lot of money.
I agree with what @masulum said, La Masia football academy is the best football academy in the world today, and it has been proven that if they have succeeded in producing many football stars so far, of course with Barcelona deteriorating financial condition as it is today, buying expensive players is not The right solution and it can be said that if possible orbiting new players from the academy can at least slightly solve the two main problems faced by Barcelona today, namely Barcelona poor performance and also the problem of the financial crisis.

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November 10, 2021, 03:01:34 PM
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I don't want to get too excited but maybe we could see a brand new champion team at the end of this season. Teams like Real Sociedad and Sevilla make me excited about it after seeing their huge performance. But it is not very ideal to be hyped about this as we still haven't even passed the half of the season. But it wouldn't be bad to witness a new team making it. It is not very good to see the usual teams ending the season as the champions all the time.

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November 10, 2021, 03:11:07 PM
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I don't understand why many of them expect something big from Xavi, because even though Xavi is a Barcelona legend it doesn't mean that it will guarantee to get Barcelona back to its best. There is no guarantee that a Legendary player who becomes a coach will succeed, there have been many examples of this. I'm just worried that when we expect too much it will be something of a disappointment to Xavi himself if Xavi can't give his best for Barcelona.
You may also doubt Guardiola during his time as Barcelona coach, but things ended well for them. Xavi doesn't have much experience as a coach as his coaching history only started in a few years with the Qatar League so there are doubts among fans and other observers to see him succeed in bringing Barcelona to the top. No problem, Xavi has chosen a better way of life in his coaching field as he now leads one of the best clubs in La Liga.

There are always good expectation and there are always situation that are not as expected. Without trying then we never know what he can do for the former club that made his name; Barcelona.

Your comment made me to have a rethink. Now I believe that there is no better time for Xavi to take up the head coach job of Barcelona than now. Despite he's not lasted so long in that career and he's inheriting an unstable team. This could be a blessing in disguise.
How about if he inherited a completely formidable team and could not deliver, what will be his excuses?
Right now, if he fails to deliver with the nature of the club, he would be rightly vindicated and given a second chance Grin

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November 10, 2021, 03:50:04 PM
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Maybe nothing is certain yet but I must admit that Atletico Madrid's performance has decreased on the weeks we've left behind. They have a bigger problem on their defense especially. In their last game against Valencia, they didn't have problem on scoring goals at all (3 goals). But they couldn't hamper conceding 3 goals. If they don't solve this defensive problem, it can cost them the title chance in the coming weeks as the point gap with the top team could open a lot.
Real Sociedad is already 5 points ahead of Atletico, but Sociedad has played one more game than Atletico. Also, Sevilla and Real, with an equal number of games played, are 4 points ahead of Atletico. There is a gap, now it is not large, but I think that it will gradually increase. But if we take into account that almost half of the season has been played, then the first four are quite close and everyone retains the chances of winning.

Of course we can't say anything for certain yet. Maybe Atletico made simple mistakes on the last weeks but they are a very capable team to pull themselves together in a short time. And we can't count them as they are far away from the leader. There is a gap that can be closed easily by Atletico Madrid. The only thing they need to do is to start playing more carefully.
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November 10, 2021, 04:01:53 PM
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I agree with you. Barcelona's goal now should not be the title. If they dream of winning the title, it is almost unreal now. The condition of their team is very bad, and they are far behind. Their goal now should be to make the team more stable and qualify to play in the Champions League next season. Although Xavi is not experienced enough, he can make the team more stable by establishing friendly relations with the players.

There is a great danger that Xavi will continue to focus on tiki taki as he remembers from the past (both Barcelona and the Spanish national team) that it brings victories. But this requires a phenomenal set of performers (which Barcelona does not have now), plus one must take into account the fact that football is developing and this tactic can hardly be called effective now.

the new barca coach Xavi is now trying with the players Gavi, Pedri and Ansu Fati again to call the successful and notorious tiki-taka football to life, which he himself with L. Messi and Iniesta so well have fabricated ... whether this succeeds, we will see Grin


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November 10, 2021, 04:16:47 PM
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Barcelona often creates quality young players from their youth academy. Maybe Xavi can find the figure who will be the star player again from their youth academy. As you mentioned they don't have enough money to buy star players, academy is the only way for Xavi to get players without spending a lot of money.
In the last few days news has spread that Barcelona are interested in bringing in Sterling from Manchester City to strengthen an attacking line that is now starting to weaken. Dembele is also a priority to keep despite his frequent injuries and it looks like he will be offered a new contract from Barcelona. I firmly believe Xavi can help the players to increase their confidence during the game, and I have seen him start his first training after being appointed last Tuesday despite the absence of many important players.

There are big challenges that Xavi will face at Barcelona, ​​but he will devote everything to his former team just because he wants to return the club to its former glory. We'll see later how he can make his players play well in his debut match vs Espanyol.

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