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October 16, 2021, 12:13:45 AM
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at the moment with the players available, Ancelotti can start his second spell at Real Madrid well, and he won five of their first six games, and that's why I think it's impossible for Real Madrid to sack Anceloti before his contract expires.
So far, in my opinion, Anceloti's ability to formulate strategies and maximize existing players to undergo a busy match schedule thats makes Real Madrid management really trust him, moreover Real Madrid management is aware that they didn't give a lot of money in the transfer market yesterday, so don't blame ancelotti if at this time Real Madrid defense is a little weak Grin.
Right now, two Spanish giants are talk of town specially Barcelona after having very poor start of season but suddenly after losing 2 matches one in La Liga and other in Champions League Real Madrid is also in hype which is not good as they have very good start of season and right now they are top on leader board and game in Champions League which was big upset it's nothing new because we have too many upsets like this in the past.

Real Madrid management viewing all things, so I am feeling they are not going to take any action against Ancelotti because he is good and can handle things in very better way now they have some good time their first game after break is against Barcelona on 24 October.
Àncelotii's job is not threatened. He started well and is doing his best not only in tactics but in team management. The club née not pressure him because they know how much they invested in the transfer window.  Before we expect much from Ancelotti and his boys, let us be able to answer that this quality of players we have in Madrid now, is it upto the quality that we used to know in Madrid?
How about the defence line?
The only.person that is threatening his job and his job is threatening him is Koeman. Just that Barcelona is currently in a dilemma, but a good coach could liberate them.

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October 16, 2021, 01:50:11 AM
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Trust me Koeman only has until the middle of the season if nothing changes then he will be fired he has been given a chance but sadly without progress
I heard this news in the local media, fans and management are getting tired of this situation so there is no other choice the coach must be fired
I honestly don't know how Koeman is still at Barcelona, she's hated by the fans (especially), the club's board has also been very unhappy with him and even the press seems to want him to leave, they just talk about it.
However, a while ago I read that Depay is thinking of leaving the team if the coach is fired, would this then be an impasse? I don't know if this is true and if it's still something that prevails?
In any case, I think Barcelona's biggest problem is finding a good replacement at a price they can afford right now.

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October 16, 2021, 01:57:05 AM
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Real Sociedad are one of the solid teams right now. They are sharing the points with the leader. As you can remember, Real Sociedad finished the last season at the fifth place. They have started to this season really well also. I don't expect them to compete for the title but maybe they can have a chance for the 3rd spot as Sevilla have also. I don't say Barcelona because they are really weak now. It is doubtful whether they can pull themselves together and finish in top 3.
Real Sociedad is probably in a nice position on the standings, and if they continue like this, they will definitely finish this season on the top 4. They just need to avoid losing more matches like last season, which they lost 10 matches and it affected their points. Barcelona is in a bad shape presently, if they don't improve their performance, they won't be able to end this season in the top 5. However, Sociedad will play against Mallorca today, is a home match for Sociedad and they can be able to win as Mallorca don't seem as a tough club to me.



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October 16, 2021, 02:25:09 AM
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Seeing the situation that Barcelona is currently facing, I feel like laughing because it seems as if it is no longer one of the big European teams today. Starting from the coach, players, financial condition, like the bullshit played by management. What the heck, they should be able to solve the problem by finding the best solution without risking the reputation of a team that is known throughout the world. Koeman can't help them to be a better team, they have to find a solution if they want to have any chance of winning the title this season.
Barcelona is like being stuck with a Koeman. He's probably not a bad coach, but what he did at Barcelona did not live up to expectations and Barcelona has no other choice but to keep Koeman (at least until his contract ends). So Barcelona can only hope for the rest of the season that a Koeman can make a surprise (although we all know it is a very difficult mission for Koeman).

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October 16, 2021, 03:00:58 AM
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Seeing the situation that Barcelona is currently facing, I feel like laughing because it seems as if it is no longer one of the big European teams today. Starting from the coach, players, financial condition, like the bullshit played by management. What the heck, they should be able to solve the problem by finding the best solution without risking the reputation of a team that is known throughout the world. Koeman can't help them to be a better team, they have to find a solution if they want to have any chance of winning the title this season.
Barcelona is like being stuck with a Koeman. He's probably not a bad coach, but what he did at Barcelona did not live up to expectations and Barcelona has no other choice but to keep Koeman (at least until his contract ends). So Barcelona can only hope for the rest of the season that a Koeman can make a surprise (although we all know it is a very difficult mission for Koeman).

For the title hunt I see no hope in Barcelona the only thing Koeman can give is the champion league zone means Barcelona must finish at least in 4th place
Actually the quality of the Barcelona players is not bad there are great players there but as you said Koeman is not able to collaborate so the players seem to be in a stalemate

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October 16, 2021, 03:44:02 AM
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Week 9 of La Liga opens with the match between Levante vs Getafe which will take place at the Estadio Ciudad de Valencia - Levante UD. Both teams are currently in the relegation zone of the La Liga standings, Levante in 18th position and Getafe in 20th position.

It will be interesting to see a match between teams in the relegation zone because they will try very hard to win. If you look at their match history, the last 2 matches of the two of them were held at the Estadio Ciudad de Valencia - Levante UD was always won by Levante, but even so, we cannot underestimate Getafe who are unlikely to just lose to Levante.

What's Your Prediction? Can Levante Win Easily? Or Getafe Will Win This Match?

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October 16, 2021, 03:54:03 AM
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Seeing the situation that Barcelona is currently facing, I feel like laughing because it seems as if it is no longer one of the big European teams today. Starting from the coach, players, financial condition, like the bullshit played by management. What the heck, they should be able to solve the problem by finding the best solution without risking the reputation of a team that is known throughout the world. Koeman can't help them to be a better team, they have to find a solution if they want to have any chance of winning the title this season.
Barcelona is like being stuck with a Koeman. He's probably not a bad coach, but what he did at Barcelona did not live up to expectations and Barcelona has no other choice but to keep Koeman (at least until his contract ends). So Barcelona can only hope for the rest of the season that a Koeman can make a surprise (although we all know it is a very difficult mission for Koeman).

For the title hunt I see no hope in Barcelona the only thing Koeman can give is the champion league zone means Barcelona must finish at least in 4th place
Actually the quality of the Barcelona players is not bad there are great players there but as you said Koeman is not able to collaborate so the players seem to be in a stalemate

@BitcoinHun3r Barcelona definitely won’t win the title this season unless Ageuro can find his goal scoring boots, but so far they’re struggling. Also another factor is when the coach no longer fears the sack they become relaxed, and that’s why Koeman is not making any efforts to reverse the losing streak.
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October 16, 2021, 04:24:13 AM
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Seeing the situation that Barcelona is currently facing, I feel like laughing because it seems as if it is no longer one of the big European teams today. Starting from the coach, players, financial condition, like the bullshit played by management. What the heck, they should be able to solve the problem by finding the best solution without risking the reputation of a team that is known throughout the world. Koeman can't help them to be a better team, they have to find a solution if they want to have any chance of winning the title this season.
Barcelona is like being stuck with a Koeman. He's probably not a bad coach, but what he did at Barcelona did not live up to expectations and Barcelona has no other choice but to keep Koeman (at least until his contract ends). So Barcelona can only hope for the rest of the season that a Koeman can make a surprise (although we all know it is a very difficult mission for Koeman).

For the title hunt I see no hope in Barcelona the only thing Koeman can give is the champion league zone means Barcelona must finish at least in 4th place
Actually the quality of the Barcelona players is not bad there are great players there but as you said Koeman is not able to collaborate so the players seem to be in a stalemate

@BitcoinHun3r Barcelona definitely won’t win the title this season unless Ageuro can find his goal scoring boots, but so far they’re struggling. Also another factor is when the coach no longer fears the sack they become relaxed, and that’s why Koeman is not making any efforts to reverse the losing streak.

Do any coaches do that? because I think it can have a bad impact on his future career the other team would ignore him if it was proven that he did
On the other hand Aguero is no longer the focus, he has a lot of problems from injury to decreased performance it is also a consideration for Man City not to renew his contract

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Levante vs Getafe

lower teams certainly have more motivation to get out of the relegation zone.
for their current situation, there is no reason to share the numbers. Winning is an obligation that must be achieved by both teams.

Levante got too much 1 point in the match they faced, while Getafe lost too much. Both teams have had a lot of weaknesses this season.
but in today's match, Levante will certainly be more favored, they once held Madrid to a 3-3 draw. but it is not impossible, both of them can share the results and will not change anything in the standings.



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October 16, 2021, 05:30:14 AM
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Hello everyone, I'm a south American match fixer. My name is frank. I manipulate all kinds of results with soccer clubs players and referee. We bribe with huge funds. Normally we give out half time correct score full time correct score results and extra penalty.

I understand here you nearly impossible to believe what I said. Right now I need huge amount of money here to make more successful games. If you have questions please email me kimhua1995@gmail.com or my whats app me +6596102400. Looking forward to work long business here.
That's a nice job bro. How do think people will believe you what you claim to be if it is genuine

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October 16, 2021, 05:45:15 AM
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Also another factor is when the coach no longer fears the sack they become relaxed, and that’s why Koeman is not making any efforts to reverse the losing streak.

Do any coaches do that? because I think it can have a bad impact on his future career the other team would ignore him if it was proven that he did

I don't think so. I already said that he means well for the club. It would dumb of him if he's doing that even if he retires from managing after the board decides to kick him out of Barcelona. Imagine leaving a legacy of becoming an unprofessional manager of one of the most successful in the world.

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October 16, 2021, 06:11:50 AM
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Hello everyone, I'm a south American match fixer. My name is frank. I manipulate all kinds of results with soccer clubs players and referee. We bribe with huge funds. Normally we give out half time correct score full time correct score results and extra penalty.

I understand here you nearly impossible to believe what I said. Right now I need huge amount of money here to make more successful games. If you have questions please email me kimhua1995@gmail.com or my whats app me +6596102400. Looking forward to work long business here.

I think your job is very risky and to be honest it damages the reputation of football, even though I am a football bettor but I don't want to use dirty ways to win in a bet. sorry I personally will not be interested at all with your business offer.

That's a nice job bro. How do think people will believe you what you claim to be if it is genuine

Nothing to display to show you are real here.

do you believe in his job?
I think if he can bribe the referee all this time and manage the final result of the match, let's say his job is successful, doesn't he now have a lot of money from the results of betting manipulation?
Then why is he currently still in need of big money and looking for a new business partner?

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October 16, 2021, 06:43:45 AM
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Hello everyone, I'm a south American match fixer. My name is frank. I manipulate all kinds of results with soccer clubs players and referee. We bribe with huge funds. Normally we give out half time correct score full time correct score results and extra penalty.

I understand here you nearly impossible to believe what I said. Right now I need huge amount of money here to make more successful games. If you have questions please email me kimhua1995@gmail.com or my whats app me +6596102400. Looking forward to work long business here.

I think your job is very risky and to be honest it damages the reputation of football, even though I am a football bettor but I don't want to use dirty ways to win in a bet. sorry I personally will not be interested at all with your business offer.

That's a nice job bro. How do think people will believe you what you claim to be if it is genuine

Nothing to display to show you are real here.

do you believe in his job?
I think if he can bribe the referee all this time and manage the final result of the match, let's say his job is successful, doesn't he now have a lot of money from the results of betting manipulation?
Then why is he currently still in need of big money and looking for a new business partner?

I see it very difficult to believe what he says he's into, him saying he's looking for huge money to manipulate results I wonder who will believe such is real. It's so risky to imagine about it.
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October 16, 2021, 06:54:57 AM
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In Spain I would say it's much easier to maintain that speed over the season with more weaker teams in the league (and I say this even though I follow and love La Liga more but I admit the league overall is weaker physically) but it's when the injuries happen that they suffer as playing means less recovery time.
I think it's not a matter of physical weakness, but of the lack of financial motivation among the players. In fact, La Liga is three or four clubs, since only these clubs successfully sell their TV broadcasts, here I would add the fact that during the signing of the agreement on the equal distribution of income in La Liga, Real and Barça pushed through the edits according to which they cannot get less money than they received in previous seasons.

I tried to search the Internet for information on profits from TV broadcasts in La Liga, but I did not find anything, although I am almost sure that in the Premier League, the clubs that occupy the last places in the table earn the same as the top clubs of any European league. I hope I have not strayed too far from the topic, but still I am deeply convinced that it all comes down to money.

Good someone else understands how entirely unbalanced it is in La Liga in fact, although most people point at EPL as the one with the most unbalanced. Yes it's true City won it most for the past many years there but that is recent and everyone else catches up soon whereas in La Liga it's really just a few.

I think in EPL also, as you say, bottom teams still earn a lot. The Championship playoff is worth $100million or something like this just because of EPL TV rights.

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October 16, 2021, 07:36:08 AM
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Could you show how such a sum of probabilities is obtained? This is interesting to me because any probability that is higher than one (100%) is impossible by definition, which means that somewhere there is either a mathematical or a methodological error.
As for Slow death's question, I think this is a common phenomenon of a distorted bet (occurs when the mood of the crowd does not correspond to the real chances and the bookmakers are guided by the mood of the crowd to balance the odds).
Well, I'd like to say that odds providers are never guided by the mood of the crowd ... although I don't deny that bookmakers can use crowd expectations against the crowd, (how it was in the last fight with Joshua). As for the sum of probabilities, everything is simple ... at least if you do not delve into the details of the formulas. Let's say the providers of the odds estimate the win of Barcelona at 1.5 / draw 3.5 and the win of Valencia at 5, and the sum of these coefficients is 100% excluding the bookmaker's margin. Further, a margin is added to these numbers (say 5%) and distributed in accordance with the odds.

This adds 2.5% to the victory of Valencia, 1.75% to the draw and 0.75% to the victory of Barça, in the end it looks like this.
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Barça Win: 1.5 + 0.75% = 1.51 / Valencia Win: 5 + 2.5% = 5.13 / Draw: 3.5 + 1.75% = 3.56

Odds providers are not driven by crowd sentiment because they have a different job to analyze athletic performance. The mood of the crowd is assessed directly by the bookmakers by the amount of money that the crowd bets on different outcomes of the match, and if there is an imbalance (which threatens the bookmaker with losses), then they adjust the odds. Therefore, we can say that bookmakers are always guided by the mood of the crowd.
As for your calculation, it contains an inaccuracy - firstly, in your example, the sum of coefficients without margin is not 100%, and secondly, the bookmaker's margin does not increase, but decreases the odds. If you make an accurate calculation, then the probability never exceeds 100%, with or without margin.

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October 16, 2021, 07:56:38 AM
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Doubt the supporters clubs/organizations would allow for that. Unlike in England or other clubs Barca ownership structure needs buyin from the members, and unless the Saudi guys do a PR campaign to win people over, I doubt it'll even get past approval.

But what do I know? President managed to keep everything under the radar with everything else bad happening with us.
Yet another BS headline.
we can see the media pattern thesedays.. as newcastle take over become trending , no wonder some other random media rumored similar shit mentioned arab money coming in to barcelona door.
perfect headline for perfect situations in barcelona , but to be honest .. changing ownership could be a huge step into a revolution.

barcelona need that arab guy with infinity cash.

Yeah, agree, the revolution needs to completely change the structure of ownership though not just the owner. Barca as I explained already has a good system but it needs more trnasparency. Presidents getting reports of our stadium being in total disrepair and then hiding it and ignoring repairs, for example, that needs to go. We also have to demand more transparency.

Infinity cash for over 1 B debt indeed.

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October 16, 2021, 08:04:37 AM
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In Spain I would say it's much easier to maintain that speed over the season with more weaker teams in the league (and I say this even though I follow and love La Liga more but I admit the league overall is weaker physically) but it's when the injuries happen that they suffer as playing means less recovery time.
I think it's not a matter of physical weakness, but of the lack of financial motivation among the players. In fact, La Liga is three or four clubs, since only these clubs successfully sell their TV broadcasts, here I would add the fact that during the signing of the agreement on the equal distribution of income in La Liga, Real and Barça pushed through the edits according to which they cannot get less money than they received in previous seasons.

I tried to search the Internet for information on profits from TV broadcasts in La Liga, but I did not find anything, although I am almost sure that in the Premier League, the clubs that occupy the last places in the table earn the same as the top clubs of any European league. I hope I have not strayed too far from the topic, but still I am deeply convinced that it all comes down to money.

Good someone else understands how entirely unbalanced it is in La Liga in fact, although most people point at EPL as the one with the most unbalanced. Yes it's true City won it most for the past many years there but that is recent and everyone else catches up soon whereas in La Liga it's really just a few.

I think in EPL also, as you say, bottom teams still earn a lot. The Championship playoff is worth $100million or something like this just because of EPL TV rights.
Every unbalance to anyone or any organisation is a balance to another.  When you look back and see how Fifa conived with La Liga to hijack the sweet game of football in past few days, you will understand what lower clubs suffer in La liga.
That time Messi was immune and  Ronaldo had to join him in La liga.
The two giant clubs, Barcelona and Real Madrid made so much money from viewing rights and business overall. Other clubs were intimidated with irregular officiating and manipulation. Unicef played a huge roll in this conspiracy. ThankGod today the two big fishes are off La liga. Nothing lasts for ever. Other clubs in La liga apart from their top four goes home with almost nothing at the end of the season compared to what happens in EPL.

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I think it's not a matter of physical weakness, but of the lack of financial motivation among the players. In fact, La Liga is three or four clubs, since only these clubs successfully sell their TV broadcasts, here I would add the fact that during the signing of the agreement on the equal distribution of income in La Liga, Real and Barça pushed through the edits according to which they cannot get less money than they received in previous seasons.
I tried to search the Internet for information on profits from TV broadcasts in La Liga, but I did not find anything, although I am almost sure that in the Premier League, the clubs that occupy the last places in the table earn the same as the top clubs of any European league. I hope I have not strayed too far from the topic, but still I am deeply convinced that it all comes down to money.
Good someone else understands how entirely unbalanced it is in La Liga in fact, although most people point at EPL as the one with the most unbalanced. Yes it's true City won it most for the past many years there but that is recent and everyone else catches up soon whereas in La Liga it's really just a few.
I think in EPL also, as you say, bottom teams still earn a lot. The Championship playoff is worth $100million or something like this just because of EPL TV rights.
Every unbalance to anyone or any organisation is a balance to another.  When you look back and see how Fifa conived with La Liga to hijack the sweet game of football in past few days, you will understand what lower clubs suffer in La liga.
That time Messi was immune and  Ronaldo had to join him in La liga.
The two giant clubs, Barcelona and Real Madrid made so much money from viewing rights and business overall. Other clubs were intimidated with irregular officiating and manipulation. Unicef played a huge roll in this conspiracy. ThankGod today the two big fishes are off La liga. Nothing lasts for ever. Other clubs in La liga apart from their top four goes home with almost nothing at the end of the season compared to what happens in EPL.

This has been a case for several years, maybe it started somewhere around the arrival of Ronaldo and the start of Messi's legacy. These two players were the most impactful in case of getting the viewership and the league took advantage off of that. On the contrary, smaller clubs suffered because of this. But I'm glad that now that players like Messi, Ronaldo, Ramos are no longer in the league, maybe the discrimination ratio won't be that high. And we already saw Barcelona going through a huge crisis. So, what I want to say is, it had to come to an end at the point, and glad it came early.

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October 16, 2021, 10:22:24 AM
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Rayo Vallecano will play against Elche today. Rayo Vallecano is in such a form now, it is not a difficult task for them to resist Elche. Moreover, Rayo Vallecano was defeated in the previous match. So this match is very important for them. If Vallecano's team can win this match, they will move to fourth place in the points table. Today I am betting on the victory of Rayo Vallecano. My guess is Rayo will win the match 1-0.

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October 16, 2021, 10:26:16 AM
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It's a shame that this week we couldn't watch Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because the Real Madrid Versus Atletico Bilbao match was officially postponed, this match was postponed due to the impact of the CONMEBOL 2022 World Cup Qualification zone. Both Real Madrid and Atletico Bilbao were unable to field the first squad because most of the players were still playing for their country and had not yet returned to the club. The qualifying schedule which is very close to the La Liga schedule makes this match forced to be postponed and Madrid can focus on matches in the champions league.

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