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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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October 15, 2021, 03:51:31 PM
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after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..
I'm sure Barcelona were devastated by Messi's move to PSG at the start of the season and it left the team in complete disarray. If Koeman is retained throughout the season then I'm willing to bet that Barcelona will fail in all competitions and won't win any title. He is not a great coach even though he is a former Barcelona player. He could argue that he doesn't have support, but that's his coaching ability. There will be more defeats waiting for this team, and that won't be a surprise.

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October 15, 2021, 04:01:10 PM
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after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..

I don't think they lost their passion for playing but they just lost a reliable player. Messi has a very crucial role in the team, so when Barcelona had to play without him, Barcelona seemed to lose its anchor and they can't play as well as when Messi was in the team. Barcelona had to stick with Ronald Koeman because their financial situation was not conducive to sacking Koeman at the moment.

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October 15, 2021, 04:16:52 PM
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after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..
I'm sure Barcelona were devastated by Messi's move to PSG at the start of the season and it left the team in complete disarray. If Koeman is retained throughout the season then I'm willing to bet that Barcelona will fail in all competitions and won't win any title. He is not a great coach even though he is a former Barcelona player. He could argue that he doesn't have support, but that's his coaching ability. There will be more defeats waiting for this team, and that won't be a surprise.
Barcelona's first mistake was letting Messi go even though there were still options at that time to keep him.
The second mistake is to entrust Koeman as a coach with methods and tactics that are not compatible with Barcelona.
now barcelona have to focus on the mentality of the players and at least they have to come back and make a better result.
But as long as Koeman is still talking more than working, it's probably very difficult for Barcelona to get at least one title this season

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October 15, 2021, 04:27:48 PM
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after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..

I don't think they lost their passion for playing but they just lost a reliable player. Messi has a very crucial role in the team, so when Barcelona had to play without him, Barcelona seemed to lose its anchor and they can't play as well as when Messi was in the team. Barcelona had to stick with Ronald Koeman because their financial situation was not conducive to sacking Koeman at the moment.
Barcelona face financial crisis not only Messi but also Grizmann have left club and now they faced many problem left by both important player. How ever without Messi Barcelona should wake up and this week Aguero back from injury and become starting eleven for Barcelona, but can he give impressive performance after missing more than three months without play?

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October 15, 2021, 04:28:10 PM
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after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..
I'm sure Barcelona were devastated by Messi's move to PSG at the start of the season and it left the team in complete disarray. If Koeman is retained throughout the season then I'm willing to bet that Barcelona will fail in all competitions and won't win any title. He is not a great coach even though he is a former Barcelona player. He could argue that he doesn't have support, but that's his coaching ability. There will be more defeats waiting for this team, and that won't be a surprise.

It's clear Barcelona will be eliminated from the league this time. For no reason they really seem to rely on their performances to Messi and when Messi leaves they are just a child's game who doesn't know what to play. Honestly Barcelona put on the worst show I've ever seen. Disappointment has come since they were slaughtered by Atletico Madrid.

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October 15, 2021, 04:51:40 PM
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, I think, if the current management can cut salaries players and maybe selling those who don't have a contribution to the club, will certainly ease their current financial problems a bit.

Looks like it's been done, but they sold their basic player. It's a bit of a mistake that makes Barca look bad at the moment. Yes it is a difficult decision but it must be done. Management has the right to manage finances, has the right to determine the best course of action for the club. I myself do not really understand their business strategy. But I think they are trying to save Barca from crisis. I can only see from the outside as a football fan.
the point of my post above is that apart from the problem of messi's departure at the beginning of last season, I mean, now the condition of barcelona might be helped a little if they sold players who didn't really have a big contribution to the team like continho and also samuel umtiti who did have a salary big right now.
I think the problems that occurred in Barcelona this season were mistakes made by the previous president of Barcelona who was too generous in paying big salaries to players even though they did not have a big contribution to Barcelona.

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next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach.
I may be hasty with my conclusions, but it seems to me that the time of the Koeman in Barcelona is drawing to a close.
Yes Barcelona is struggling but this is not all on Koeman. Barcelona could have easily fired him last year if he was the only problem. You can place any of the top managers right now and they will continue to have poor results. Firing him if they don't do well in the next two matches won't any good for the club.
Barcelona was facing serious financial difficulties which   was one of the reasons they couldn't fire Koeman last year. This also resulted to them losing their key player (Messi), to PSG. Barcelona performance haven't been impressive, especially in the Champion League, they currently have 0 point. They have good players, what Barcelona needs is cooperation and a good Coach who can boost their morale. Koeman time in Barcelona is limited,
No one is saying he's invincible. The point is there are more problems than what we see on the pitch and that can't be solved by morale boosting speech. I'm pretty sure he knows how to speak with his players and he wants the best for the club as other well-meaning managers.

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October 15, 2021, 05:52:23 PM
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Real Sociedad are one of the solid teams right now. They are sharing the points with the leader. As you can remember, Real Sociedad finished the last season at the fifth place. They have started to this season really well also. I don't expect them to compete for the title but maybe they can have a chance for the 3rd spot as Sevilla have also. I don't say Barcelona because they are really weak now. It is doubtful whether they can pull themselves together and finish in top 3.
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October 15, 2021, 05:54:28 PM
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I don't think they lost their passion for playing but they just lost a reliable player. Messi has a very crucial role in the team, so when Barcelona had to play without him, Barcelona seemed to lose its anchor and they can't play as well as when Messi was in the team. Barcelona had to stick with Ronald Koeman because their financial situation was not conducive to sacking Koeman at the moment.
I knew it will really be dawned on Barcelona if Messi leaves the club, I have been realising this few years before Messi left the club. When Messi was still in Barcelona, I noticed the club always find it hard to win even clubs that are not that strong in La Liga Santander, I still remembered many of such occurrences, I remembered one played against Espanyol few season ago when Espanyol in the lower table near relegation won Barcelona 6 to 5, Messi was not also in the match.

Barcelona was too dependent on Messi which is the cause of what is happening to the club now, but with time it is very possible to get back to normal, but I doubt if it will ever be like before when Messi was still in the club.

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October 15, 2021, 06:03:34 PM
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I don't think they lost their passion for playing but they just lost a reliable player. Messi has a very crucial role in the team, so when Barcelona had to play without him, Barcelona seemed to lose its anchor and they can't play as well as when Messi was in the team. Barcelona had to stick with Ronald Koeman because their financial situation was not conducive to sacking Koeman at the moment.
Seeing the situation that Barcelona is currently facing, I feel like laughing because it seems as if it is no longer one of the big European teams today. Starting from the coach, players, financial condition, like the bullshit played by management. What the heck, they should be able to solve the problem by finding the best solution without risking the reputation of a team that is known throughout the world. Koeman can't help them to be a better team, they have to find a solution if they want to have any chance of winning the title this season.

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October 15, 2021, 06:33:54 PM
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after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..

for passion, I think they are still there, but from the start they were too focused on messi so when messi left the club they seemed confused about where to turn.
messi has been their pedestal for a long time and many barcelona players depend on him, and this causes them to play like they don't know which strategy to apply because the focus they always use as a shield for victory is now no longer with them

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October 15, 2021, 06:41:43 PM
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Barcelona's first mistake was letting Messi go even though there were still options at that time to keep him.
The second mistake is to entrust Koeman as a coach with methods and tactics that are not compatible with Barcelona.
I am pretty sure that they have no choice at that time, the only solution was to let him leave the club. If they can keep Messi, they must do it because Messi is like the soul of the Barcelona team. Sadly, Barcelona management found has no way to keep him on the club. Moreover, Barcelona has a very big problem in the financial sector, they cannot agree with Messi's salary.

Regarding Koeman, this man actually was almost fired by Barcelona management. But they seem to give him one last chance. If he cannot win any single trophy for Barcelona this season, I assume he will be fired by Barcelona management at the end of this season. Let's see what Koeman can do in this season, there are still a few months remainings.

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October 15, 2021, 06:53:12 PM
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after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..
I'm sure Barcelona were devastated by Messi's move to PSG at the start of the season and it left the team in complete disarray. If Koeman is retained throughout the season then I'm willing to bet that Barcelona will fail in all competitions and won't win any title. He is not a great coach even though he is a former Barcelona player. He could argue that he doesn't have support, but that's his coaching ability. There will be more defeats waiting for this team, and that won't be a surprise.
There are a lot of young players in Barcelona. These players need time to gain experience. The team needs a player like Messi, but alas, he is not there now. And Barcelona needs to learn to play without him. This is a very difficult and possibly lengthy process. But Barcelona has everything to walk this path and regain its greatness again.
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Sevilla are going to play an away game against Celta Vigo this Sunday. Sevilla are one of the strong teams of this season too. They were doing good until the loss against Granada last match week. This is a good chance for Sevilla to start winning again. Celta Vigo are not that tough competitor for them and I remember that Sevilla beat them by a big score like 4-3 in the last season. Diego Carlos is suspended due to a red card. And En-Nesyri is injured till mid November. He scored 3 goals so far and he is the most important attacking player for Sevilla. But still, I think that they can win this by 1 goal in the worst case.

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October 15, 2021, 07:55:50 PM
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I don't think they lost their passion for playing but they just lost a reliable player. Messi has a very crucial role in the team, so when Barcelona had to play without him, Barcelona seemed to lose its anchor and they can't play as well as when Messi was in the team. Barcelona had to stick with Ronald Koeman because their financial situation was not conducive to sacking Koeman at the moment.
Seeing the situation that Barcelona is currently facing, I feel like laughing because it seems as if it is no longer one of the big European teams today. Starting from the coach, players, financial condition, like the bullshit played by management. What the heck, they should be able to solve the problem by finding the best solution without risking the reputation of a team that is known throughout the world. Koeman can't help them to be a better team, they have to find a solution if they want to have any chance of winning the title this season.
So many problems are piling up that Barcelona is facing, of course, not only the players and coaches, the management must also be fixed regardless of the financial shortcomings that make it less good.
And now again the players and coaches are not so qualified even I also consider it a weak team that is helpless to see Barcelona now, one of the keys to being destroyed is the loss of Messi to other clubs, fans are reduced as well as sponsors are reduced so that income decreases and what can be generated may be from the sale of players and even then if there are talented people.

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October 15, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
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That is true. Barcelona does have the players to at least finish top 4 in the league. At the start of the season, many key players were out due to injury. Now that most of them, especially Aguero are back we can be optimistic of them doing good. What they need to do now is leave behind the dependency they had on Messi and try to play as a team and since they have some really quality players like Depay, Aguero, Pedri, and so many more, finishing top 4 should not be that tough of a challenge for them once they get the team chemistry right.

next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach. La Liga match vs Valencia and Champions League match vs Dynamo Kyiv will define his future.
They say so for several games in a row, but nothing happens, even though I did not like this coach initially, but I think he will not last long, so he does not have much time left. Sooner or later he will resign as head coach. If they lose to Dynamo, it will be a shame
after messi left, the barcelona players seemed to have lost the enthusiasm to play, now they are in 9th place in the standings, below valencia, they have the same points, if barcelona loses at the hands of valencia I am very sure, the position of the coach in the hands of Koeman will definitely be shifted, although Aguero has recovered from his injury, I don't believe Aguero will be able to bring Barcelona to victory path..
I don't believe it either, but at least he should play somehow, he could score a couple of goals in the next matches, I don't know. And about the enthusiasm probably agree with you, because it's all quite strange, Messi is gone - the beautiful game of Barcelona is over, it can't be that they only hoped for Leo?

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October 15, 2021, 09:16:13 PM
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Barcelona's current financial problem, I think, will take quite a long time to be resolved, considering that the club ownership system in La Liga cannot be acquired by foreign parties, which makes it very difficult for the club to be free from the club's current debt. I think Barcelona should be able to get up and win every game to be able to boost the fans' confidence and at least make the Camp Nou filled again with Barcelona fans.
I do not believe that it is going to be something that would be a problem for them. People keep thinking that they are not going to be able to get out of this financial problem however you are forgetting that this is a club that makes a lot of money even when they are not winning because they are selling too many tickets and selling so many jerseys and they are getting merch deals from other nations as well and so forth.

It means that they are doing fine financially no matter what when it comes to income. This means they will need to get rid of expensive players left in their team, and put some young players there or new players who are not charging too much, 5-10 level is good anything over 10 is not acceptable for them right now. With the income they are making right now, even when they are not good, they could pay of all their debts in 3 to 4 years.
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October 15, 2021, 10:15:56 PM
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There are not many days left for the match between Barcelona and Valencia in Camp Nou. We all know how bad Barcelona players are now. They are trying their best but it is not enough for having a decent form. They have been incredibly inconsistent and this form might continue against Valencia also. Because Valencia are one of the good teams of the season. They performed strongly against Real Madrid and Barcelona should be an easier target I guess. I don't expect Valencia to lose.

Judging from the way Barcelona has been playing poorly since the start of the season in La Liga and Europe, I wouldn't put much hope on them or place my expectations high. I'll just keep my fingers crossed and hope that they win. If they end up losing, I won't be surprised.  A couple of more bad games and Koeman should be out.

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October 15, 2021, 11:13:39 PM
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Messi is gone - the beautiful game of Barcelona is over, it can't be that they only hoped for Leo?
Tiki-taka as the beautiful gameplay of Barcelona is already over a long time ago. When Barcelona has no Xavi and Iniesta anymore, they lost the magic man who controls Tiki-taka gameplay. Messi cannot do it alone, he needs another man that master Tiki-Taka. So, don't blame Messi leaving as the end of the beauty of Barcelona gameplay. The biggest mistake of Barcelona is that they cannot find the successors of Xavi and Iniesta as the midfielders who control the gameplay as a whole.


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October 15, 2021, 11:59:06 PM
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There are not many days left for the match between Barcelona and Valencia in Camp Nou. We all know how bad Barcelona players are now. They are trying their best but it is not enough for having a decent form. They have been incredibly inconsistent and this form might continue against Valencia also. Because Valencia are one of the good teams of the season. They performed strongly against Real Madrid and Barcelona should be an easier target I guess. I don't expect Valencia to lose.

Judging from the way Barcelona has been playing poorly since the start of the season in La Liga and Europe, I wouldn't put much hope on them or place my expectations high. I'll just keep my fingers crossed and hope that they win. If they end up losing, I won't be surprised.  A couple of more bad games and Koeman should be out.

Trust me Koeman only has until the middle of the season if nothing changes then he will be fired he has been given a chance but sadly without progress
I heard this news in the local media, fans and management are getting tired of this situation so there is no other choice the coach must be fired

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