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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (25.2%)
Real Madrid - 76 (66.1%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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Other - 8 (7%)
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November 03, 2021, 03:03:59 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.

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November 03, 2021, 04:23:16 PM
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Looking at yesterday's tortured victory for Barcelona in the Champions League (despite the fact that the result was extremely important and if Barcelona had played a draw, it would most likely have left the tournament), I come to the conclusion that this season Barcelona will really fight for getting into the top four to get into Champions League next year. If they do not succeed, then it risks significantly worsening its financial situation, which is already very problematic.
It is what Barcelona have to accept. They must get rid of the thought that they are still competitive enough to win La Liga. In next few years, their main target would be a top 4 in La Liga. It was not a must before but after their financial crisis was revealed, it becomes a must.

Many clubs faced with financial crisis because of overspend when they were successful. Then when results became worse and they failed in leagues, tournaments, financial crises knocked them down. I can name Deportivo La Coruna, Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, Fiorentina, Lazio, Leeds United.

I don't want to imagine such bad scenario for Barcelona but I agree with you, they should try with their best to get a position in top 4.

^ Barca has fallen into a loop. They cannot spend, so they cant get good players, so they cannot win, so cannot get the prize money, so they cannot spend. The only way to recover from this is to give it time. And I agree with you that for the next 2 or 3 years they need to aim for the top 4 spots and try to survive their best in the CL so they can at least get a sizeable amount of money from that. Nothing but only time can heal this crisis of Barca.

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November 03, 2021, 04:51:36 PM
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Looking at yesterday's tortured victory for Barcelona in the Champions League (despite the fact that the result was extremely important and if Barcelona had played a draw, it would most likely have left the tournament), I come to the conclusion that this season Barcelona will really fight for getting into the top four to get into Champions League next year. If they do not succeed, then it risks significantly worsening its financial situation, which is already very problematic.
It is what Barcelona have to accept. They must get rid of the thought that they are still competitive enough to win La Liga. In next few years, their main target would be a top 4 in La Liga. It was not a must before but after their financial crisis was revealed, it becomes a must.

Many clubs faced with financial crisis because of overspend when they were successful. Then when results became worse and they failed in leagues, tournaments, financial crises knocked them down. I can name Deportivo La Coruna, Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, Fiorentina, Lazio, Leeds United.

I don't want to imagine such bad scenario for Barcelona but I agree with you, they should try with their best to get a position in top 4.

Barcelona's financial position could change dramatically if the Super League kicks off next season. I think the top clubs will dramatically improve their financial performance and Barcelona will be able to afford to buy star players like they did in the old days. It is difficult to say how likely the Super League will start next year, so this year will be a year of struggle for Barcelona's survival.

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November 03, 2021, 05:04:24 PM
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^ Barca has fallen into a loop. They cannot spend, so they cant get good players, so they cannot win, so cannot get the prize money, so they cannot spend. The only way to recover from this is to give it time. And I agree with you that for the next 2 or 3 years they need to aim for the top 4 spots and try to survive their best in the CL so they can at least get a sizeable amount of money from that. Nothing but only time can heal this crisis of Barca.

Barca already has players that are good enough to show result but the club needs a qualified coach. Real Sociedad is taking the 1st spot in La Liga table but the team doesn't have star players.

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November 03, 2021, 08:08:09 PM
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^ Barca has fallen into a loop. They cannot spend, so they cant get good players, so they cannot win, so cannot get the prize money, so they cannot spend. The only way to recover from this is to give it time. And I agree with you that for the next 2 or 3 years they need to aim for the top 4 spots and try to survive their best in the CL so they can at least get a sizeable amount of money from that. Nothing but only time can heal this crisis of Barca.

Barca already has players that are good enough to show result but the club needs a qualified coach. Real Sociedad is taking the 1st spot in La Liga table but the team doesn't have star players.
It's quite interesting to see the La Liga standings this season, the clubs that used to be at the bottom and middle of the standings are now starting to dominate the top La Liga standings and it looks like maybe only Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are the two big clubs that are competitors for teams like Real Sociedad, Real Betis and Sevilla, it seems that now small teams are starting to take advantage of the barcelona  slump in  the league and they are trying to compete to win the La Liga trophy so far which has been dominated by Barcelona and Real Madrid.

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November 03, 2021, 08:11:34 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.

Barcelona this season can not feel the pleasure of playing on the pitch as it should be. The barrage of problems and misfortunes they receive indicates that their quality has decreased over time from various matches that have never benefited at all.

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November 03, 2021, 08:37:24 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.

Barcelona this season can not feel the pleasure of playing on the pitch as it should be. The barrage of problems and misfortunes they receive indicates that their quality has decreased over time from various matches that have never benefited at all.

Barcelona have indeed experienced many problems this season, hopefully they can soon find a coach who can make Barcelona compete at
the top again. Many media reported that representatives of Barcelona had been sent to Qatar to discuss with Al Sadd to get Xavi. It seems Xavi is
indeed the strongest candidate to replace Koeman, but I have a little doubt that Xavi can bring Barcelona back to playing like the Barcelona we used
to know. Indeed Xavi is very familiar with Barcelona, but his experience as a coach is still lacking to be able to make Barcelona compete with
other big teams in La Liga. Moreover, Barcelona is experiencing a financial crisis, this means that they are difficult to bring in star players. I hope
Barcelona can solve the problems one by one, because it is very sad to see Barcelona are in 9th position and from the last 5 matches can only
get one win. Barcelona's performance has been very bad this season.

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November 03, 2021, 09:06:35 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.
this season is a very bad season for barcelona, the trials for them come continuously after their financial decline drastically, the loss of messi and their performance deteriorated and now aguero has to be sidelined due to the injury he received.
they have fallen and then hit the stairs maybe that is the word that fits for the current picture of barcelona.
on the other hand they are now deadlocked again in attack as their striker there are several people who have not recovered from injury.

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November 03, 2021, 09:34:54 PM
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they gave a surprise at the start of their comeback in La Liga because for the past two seasons they were thrown into La Liga 2 Segunda.
and when they played barcelona I don't think they underestimated the opponent but in terms of mentality and performance, rayo was superior.
even though barcelona is a club that in fact is far above them but currently barcelona is in a disadvantageous phase and rayo take advantage of it

now Rayo Vallecano is really competing for the Champions League place. if they could overcome Celta the 4th place with Atletico Madrid was near. but even with draw vs Celta, Rayo Vallecano is just 2 points away from Champions League zone.
there is still a chance for rayo to be able to appear in the UCL next season with a record they must maintain their current consistency, especially in the middle of the season. because usually the half-season curse will always be there. and there have been a lot of teams that were really good at the start but as the season went on they lost a season of identity. and vice versa, there are those who played badly at the beginning of the season but were brilliant at the end of the season.
it all depends on how they carry out whether they can be consistent or not

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November 03, 2021, 10:00:33 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.

Barcelona this season can not feel the pleasure of playing on the pitch as it should be. The barrage of problems and misfortunes they receive indicates that their quality has decreased over time from various matches that have never benefited at all.
There was a time Barcelona's reserved team were more better than some clubs first team in the  laliga  but currently they have lost it all. Aguero needs the medical examination and with the level of medical equipment on ground we believe he should be out before three months. but it's time Barcelona go back to building back their squad. For their kind of football it's better building their own players from the academy other than new signings
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November 03, 2021, 10:14:07 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.

Barcelona this season can not feel the pleasure of playing on the pitch as it should be. The barrage of problems and misfortunes they receive indicates that their quality has decreased over time from various matches that have never benefited at all.
There was a time Barcelona's reserved team were more better than some clubs first team in the  laliga  but currently they have lost it all. Aguero needs the medical examination and with the level of medical equipment on ground we believe he should be out before three months. but it's time Barcelona go back to building back their squad. For their kind of football it's better building their own players from the academy other than new signings
This season has been a bad one for Barcelona, winning matches haven't been so easy for them. Aguero is probably a key player in Barcelona, and he absence from the squad will affect Barcelona. However, is high time Barcelona improve their performance and also rebuild their squad, every player should put in more effort and create  a strong cooperation among themselves. With this, I think the number of matches they lost will minimum. They are currently at the 9th position on the standings, and therefore need more winning in order to slide up on the table.



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November 03, 2021, 10:18:50 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.

Barcelona this season can not feel the pleasure of playing on the pitch as it should be. The barrage of problems and misfortunes they receive indicates that their quality has decreased over time from various matches that have never benefited at all.
There was a time Barcelona's reserved team were more better than some clubs first team in the  laliga  but currently they have lost it all. Aguero needs the medical examination and with the level of medical equipment on ground we believe he should be out before three months. but it's time Barcelona go back to building back their squad. For their kind of football it's better building their own players from the academy other than new signings

After what happened to barca with rayo, I think that the odds are looking better to bet against barca, not so much into thinking that el Rayo may actually repeat - it is the kind of team that typically would present a hard battle against the theoretically superior teams but then returns to its usual mediocrity. It is going to be an interesting Liga anyway, much more open than other times.

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^ Barca has fallen into a loop. They cannot spend, so they cant get good players, so they cannot win, so cannot get the prize money, so they cannot spend. The only way to recover from this is to give it time. And I agree with you that for the next 2 or 3 years they need to aim for the top 4 spots and try to survive their best in the CL so they can at least get a sizeable amount of money from that. Nothing but only time can heal this crisis of Barca.
Barca already has players that are good enough to show result but the club needs a qualified coach. Real Sociedad is taking the 1st spot in La Liga table but the team doesn't have star players.
It's quite interesting to see the La Liga standings this season, the clubs that used to be at the bottom and middle of the standings are now starting to dominate the top La Liga standings and it looks like maybe only Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are the two big clubs that are competitors for teams like Real Sociedad, Real Betis and Sevilla, it seems that now small teams are starting to take advantage of the barcelona  slump in  the league and they are trying to compete to win the La Liga trophy so far which has been dominated by Barcelona and Real Madrid.
As for the chances of Real Sociedad, we can say something concrete only after the end of the championship and there is absolutely no certainty that Sociedad will be able to stay at the head of the standings by this time and win the title. Because in this situation, coaching talent alone is not enough for such a long distance, and the factors of the level of players and the depth of the squad can also play a decisive role. Therefore, such victories, when thanks to the coach's talent in choosing a strategy and selecting a team of not the best players in the league achieve a result in the form of a title, are quite rare and it is difficult to put this on stream, if only because richer clubs will then lure the best players of the upstart club to themselves.
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November 04, 2021, 07:12:46 AM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.

Barcelona this season can not feel the pleasure of playing on the pitch as it should be. The barrage of problems and misfortunes they receive indicates that their quality has decreased over time from various matches that have never benefited at all.
There was a time Barcelona's reserved team were more better than some clubs first team in the  laliga  but currently they have lost it all. Aguero needs the medical examination and with the level of medical equipment on ground we believe he should be out before three months. but it's time Barcelona go back to building back their squad. For their kind of football it's better building their own players from the academy other than new signings

You got a point here that people are shying away from. There is a big question here; is Barcelona's problem more of financial or coaching? I think the former is the answer. If truly it is more of financial, why dismiss Koeman?
You talked about building thier own players from Academy rather than signing. That project is 2yrs+ project, no coach can build a team within few months.
It all boils down to Barcelona what they want. Futuristic or immediate repair. Both has cons and con.

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Barcelona this season can not feel the pleasure of playing on the pitch as it should be. The barrage of problems and misfortunes they receive indicates that their quality has decreased over time from various matches that have never benefited at all.

There was a time Barcelona's reserved team were more better than some clubs first team in the  laliga  but currently they have lost it all. Aguero needs the medical examination and with the level of medical equipment on ground we believe he should be out before three months. but it's time Barcelona go back to building back their squad. For their kind of football it's better building their own players from the academy other than new signings


You got a point here that people are shying away from. There is a big question here; is Barcelona's problem more of financial or coaching? I think the former is the answer. If truly it is more of financial, why dismiss Koeman?
You talked about building thier own players from Academy rather than signing. That project is 2yrs+ project, no coach can build a team within few months.
It all boils down to Barcelona what they want. Futuristic or immediate repair. Both has cons and con.
No body is shying away from question,just that we should all look at it critically and know the problem there.
Koeman?? Was he paying barcelona or Barcelona in the other hand did ? Barcelona has much problems they have to settle;the huge debt,paying players too ,so maybe they weren't able to accommodate and pay koeman anymore  Sad
Well,on the other hand Barcelona has their administrators that should deliberate who will replace any player that isn't performing well, that's what they are paid for.

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November 04, 2021, 02:29:09 PM
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It's quite interesting to see the La Liga standings this season, the clubs that used to be at the bottom and middle of the standings are now starting to dominate the top La Liga standings and it looks like maybe only Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are the two big clubs that are competitors for teams like Real Sociedad, Real Betis and Sevilla, it seems that now small teams are starting to take advantage of the barcelona  slump in  the league and they are trying to compete to win the La Liga trophy so far which has been dominated by Barcelona and Real Madrid.
As for the chances of Real Sociedad, we can say something concrete only after the end of the championship and there is absolutely no certainty that Sociedad will be able to stay at the head of the standings by this time and win the title. Because in this situation, coaching talent alone is not enough for such a long distance, and the factors of the level of players and the depth of the squad can also play a decisive role. Therefore, such victories, when thanks to the coach's talent in choosing a strategy and selecting a team of not the best players in the league achieve a result in the form of a title, are quite rare and it is difficult to put this on stream, if only because richer clubs will then lure the best players of the upstart club to themselves.

^ La Liga is getting interesting not because the smaller clubs got better but because the top 2 teams - Real and Barca got heavily nerfed in the last transfer window. Real lost Ramos and Vaane and Barca lost Messi. And you have a good point. Yes, Sociedad has been playing well so far but it's hard to tell if they will hold onto this consistency till the end of the season. Because in order tow in the title they have to win almost all of their matches and in addition, they have to defeat Real Madrid in both games as so far Real is looking like the team to get the title.

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November 04, 2021, 02:33:23 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.
It is unfortunate that Barcelona is going through such unnecessary things. Barcelona are passing through a never ending trouble loop. Now, Dembele returned to the field this week following nearly five months out due to injury. However, Barcelona has just announced that Dembele has injured himself again. Do you blame the trainers or the medical staff? I think there's a serious problem with Barca's medical staff.

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November 04, 2021, 02:41:38 PM
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There was a time Barcelona's reserved team were more better than some clubs first team in the  laliga  but currently they have lost it all. Aguero needs the medical examination and with the level of medical equipment on ground we believe he should be out before three months. but it's time Barcelona go back to building back their squad. For their kind of football it's better building their own players from the academy other than new signings
You got a point here that people are shying away from. There is a big question here; is Barcelona's problem more of financial or coaching? I think the former is the answer. If truly it is more of financial, why dismiss Koeman?
You talked about building thier own players from Academy rather than signing. That project is 2yrs+ project, no coach can build a team within few months.
It all boils down to Barcelona what they want. Futuristic or immediate repair. Both has cons and con.

I think that coach and player, both were an issue when they had Koeman. I'm not gonna sugarcoat this but Koeman was not a good coach in my opinion. He seemed very arrogant in my opinion. And the players have also been a problem. As you said there was a time when Barca's bench was better than many teams but that time has long gone. Now even the starting 11 hardly have a star player. Financial issues have been rough on them and that is why they had to let Messi go and that is why they are unable to sign players.

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November 04, 2021, 02:44:12 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.
It is unfortunate that Barcelona is going through such unnecessary things. Barcelona are passing through a never ending trouble loop. Now, Dembele returned to the field this week following nearly five months out due to injury. However, Barcelona has just announced that Dembele has injured himself again. Do you blame the trainers or the medical staff? I think there's a serious problem with Barca's medical staff.
Not sure if there's a problem with the medical staff, because I think when a player gets injured it comes back to the player's fitness. Indeed, there are many tools or technology that can record the health of players, but with what happened with Aguero who has heart problems, I think problems such as a weak or strong heart or heartbeat can be detected from the beginning. So here it is, problems with the body or fitness of the players themselves who must be more honest in providing information to the medical team, because that way the coach can play players who are really ready in every way, especially on the health of each player.

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November 04, 2021, 04:04:37 PM
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This season is the most unlucky season for Barcelona, ​​how not, after they only managed to get a draw from Alaves in week 11th, they now also have to give up losing Aguero for 3 months, in that match Aguero was forced to be replaced by Coutinho in 42 minutes and After the match ended, Barcelona official website posted that Aguero is currently undergoing a medical examination due to a heart problem.
It is unfortunate that Barcelona is going through such unnecessary things. Barcelona are passing through a never ending trouble loop. Now, Dembele returned to the field this week following nearly five months out due to injury. However, Barcelona has just announced that Dembele has injured himself again. Do you blame the trainers or the medical staff? I think there's a serious problem with Barca's medical staff.
I think Koeman is not problem for Barcelona why have bad performance in this season, I think he can give copa del rey trophy for two year in Barcelona is not bad with terrible financial problem face by Barcelona, in this season he loss many great player from Messi and Grizmann, he only have option with your player from la masia academy without any experience, he not has any choose how to make team can get win on every match with less experience player.

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