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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (25.2%)
Real Madrid - 76 (66.1%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (7%)
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October 29, 2021, 08:57:02 AM
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In my opinion, it was the financial crisis that Barcelona went through that caused Barcelona to slump now. Barcelona had to let Messi and Griezmann leave due to salary limit issues and they had difficulty signing other players due to budget constraints, and currently, they only have a few limits on signing new coaches.

Barcelona finances are currently one of the problems that make Barcelona slump and Koeman's dismissal makes their finances even worse because they have to spend big money now.
So you mean Barcelona will have a hard time getting a coach this season after Koeman departure?
I think barcelona might have to make a bet by signing xavi as their coach, moreover xavi is one of the legends of barcelona of course he might be able to revive barcelona, ​​besides, maybe xavi will not burden Barcelona with a high salary Grin.

If the coach criteria wanted by Barcelona is a good coach who already has credibility, then with very limited funds it will certainly be difficult for Barcelona to make it happen. All Barcelona can do at the moment is find a new low-paid coach, like Xavi. Moreover, Xavi does have close chemistry with Barcelona, and this made it possible for Xavi to accept offers from Barcelona with all the limitations in his contract.
Finance is now a problem for barcelona, ​​and the sacking of koeman will certainly make their finances worse, the only way at this time barcelona is to choose xavi as the coach of barcelona, ​​I think in this case both parties will be very mutually beneficial, for barcelona they may not have to pay Xavi with a high salary because Xavi experience of coaching European clubs has not been tested, while for Xavi, this is an opportunity for Xavi to show his credibility as a coach and if he is able to lift Barcelona performance it will certainly make his career as a coach more popular.

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October 29, 2021, 09:12:31 AM
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In my opinion, it was the financial crisis that Barcelona went through that caused Barcelona to slump now. Barcelona had to let Messi and Griezmann leave due to salary limit issues and they had difficulty signing other players due to budget constraints, and currently, they only have a few limits on signing new coaches.

Barcelona finances are currently one of the problems that make Barcelona slump and Koeman's dismissal makes their finances even worse because they have to spend big money now.
So you mean Barcelona will have a hard time getting a coach this season after Koeman departure?
I think barcelona might have to make a bet by signing xavi as their coach, moreover xavi is one of the legends of barcelona of course he might be able to revive barcelona, ​​besides, maybe xavi will not burden Barcelona with a high salary Grin.

If the coach criteria wanted by Barcelona is a good coach who already has credibility, then with very limited funds it will certainly be difficult for Barcelona to make it happen. All Barcelona can do at the moment is find a new low-paid coach, like Xavi. Moreover, Xavi does have close chemistry with Barcelona, and this made it possible for Xavi to accept offers from Barcelona with all the limitations in his contract.
Finance is now a problem for barcelona, ​​and the sacking of koeman will certainly make their finances worse, the only way at this time barcelona is to choose xavi as the coach of barcelona, ​​I think in this case both parties will be very mutually beneficial, for barcelona they may not have to pay Xavi with a high salary because Xavi experience of coaching European clubs has not been tested, while for Xavi, this is an opportunity for Xavi to show his credibility as a coach and if he is able to lift Barcelona performance it will certainly make his career as a coach more popular.

Between Xavi and Andrea Pirlo as Barcelona option right now with financial crisis and impossible they can get sign from Antonio Conte because Barcelona really faced problem with financial and left by many player from Messi until Grizmann. I think who ever become new manager on Barcelona without have much money to get star player keep the same with Koeman for the future and nothing can give for Barcelona. Better management have looking for new way how to get back financial and support manager for getting star player for many position needed I think like defender, midfielder and forward.

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October 29, 2021, 09:29:24 AM
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In my opinion, it was the financial crisis that Barcelona went through that caused Barcelona to slump now. Barcelona had to let Messi and Griezmann leave due to salary limit issues and they had difficulty signing other players due to budget constraints, and currently, they only have a few limits on signing new coaches.

Barcelona finances are currently one of the problems that make Barcelona slump and Koeman's dismissal makes their finances even worse because they have to spend big money now.
So you mean Barcelona will have a hard time getting a coach this season after Koeman departure?
I think barcelona might have to make a bet by signing xavi as their coach, moreover xavi is one of the legends of barcelona of course he might be able to revive barcelona, ​​besides, maybe xavi will not burden Barcelona with a high salary Grin.

If the coach criteria wanted by Barcelona is a good coach who already has credibility, then with very limited funds it will certainly be difficult for Barcelona to make it happen. All Barcelona can do at the moment is find a new low-paid coach, like Xavi. Moreover, Xavi does have close chemistry with Barcelona, and this made it possible for Xavi to accept offers from Barcelona with all the limitations in his contract.
Finance is now a problem for barcelona, ​​and the sacking of koeman will certainly make their finances worse, the only way at this time barcelona is to choose xavi as the coach of barcelona, ​​I think in this case both parties will be very mutually beneficial, for barcelona they may not have to pay Xavi with a high salary because Xavi experience of coaching European clubs has not been tested, while for Xavi, this is an opportunity for Xavi to show his credibility as a coach and if he is able to lift Barcelona performance it will certainly make his career as a coach more popular.

Between Xavi and Andrea Pirlo as Barcelona option right now with financial crisis and impossible they can get sign from Antonio Conte because Barcelona really faced problem with financial and left by many player from Messi until Grizmann. I think who ever become new manager on Barcelona without have much money to get star player keep the same with Koeman for the future and nothing can give for Barcelona. Better management have looking for new way how to get back financial and support manager for getting star player for many position needed I think like defender, midfielder and forward.
Yes I agree with you, now money is a real power in building a squad to be the best, we can see how rich teams now have a squad that might be said to be perfect enough to win trophies, and what happened to barcelona right now, I think it will take a long time to restore their glory, but actually if they can get investors from the middle east of course these financial problems will be easily overcome later.

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October 29, 2021, 09:41:57 AM
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If the coach criteria wanted by Barcelona is a good coach who already has credibility, then with very limited funds it will certainly be difficult for Barcelona to make it happen. All Barcelona can do at the moment is find a new low-paid coach, like Xavi. Moreover, Xavi does have close chemistry with Barcelona, and this made it possible for Xavi to accept offers from Barcelona with all the limitations in his contract.
Finance is now a problem for barcelona, ​​and the sacking of koeman will certainly make their finances worse, the only way at this time barcelona is to choose xavi as the coach of barcelona, ​​I think in this case both parties will be very mutually beneficial, for barcelona they may not have to pay Xavi with a high salary because Xavi experience of coaching European clubs has not been tested, while for Xavi, this is an opportunity for Xavi to show his credibility as a coach and if he is able to lift Barcelona performance it will certainly make his career as a coach more popular.

Between Xavi and Andrea Pirlo as Barcelona option right now with financial crisis and impossible they can get sign from Antonio Conte because Barcelona really faced problem with financial and left by many player from Messi until Grizmann. I think who ever become new manager on Barcelona without have much money to get star player keep the same with Koeman for the future and nothing can give for Barcelona. Better management have looking for new way how to get back financial and support manager for getting star player for many position needed I think like defender, midfielder and forward.

After Barcelona officially sacked Ronald Koeman, the name Xavi Hernandez became the main candidate to replace Koeman. Because Xavi is
one of Barcelona's legendary players, Xavi is considered to know Barcelona very well. But the problem is Xavi is still under contract with Al Sadd,
so there is a possibility that Barcelona will fail to bring in Xavi. If it is true that Barcelona failed to bring in Xavi, according to rumors, Andrea Pirlo
will be the next choice. Moreover, according to the Calciomercato report, Laporta admired Pirlo when he was still a player. But until now Laporta
has not contacted Pirlo for an offer to coach Barcelona. That's because Barcelona are still waiting for the results of negotiations with Al Sadd to get Xavi,
for Antonio Conte it is impossible for Barcelona to be able to sign him. Because not only high salaries, it is certain Conte ask for big enough money
to be able to buy the desired player, and with Barcelona's current financial condition it is very unlikely that Barcelona will make Conte a coach.

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October 29, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
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May the next Barcelona coach be better than the previous oneS and might the players will perform better although I am a bit sceptic about that.
6/10 games in this round ended with a draw including ATM, Real Madrid and Sevilla which left the doors open for Sociedad to be get the top of the table for the moment.
Well technically the 3 other teams still lacks 1 more game comparing to Sociedad.

I agree with you about the coach - it is difficult to count on any fundamental changes without changing the composition of the team, which, in comparison with competitors, is usual for an average club, but not for a top club that wants to claim victories in tournaments. As for the leadership of Real Sociedad, I must say that they are great, but yesterday they broke a very beautiful picture in the standings - if not for this victory, there would be 7 teams in the range of 3 points. This is a super rare picture for the Spanish championship.

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October 29, 2021, 10:13:02 AM
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At the beginning of the season, Atletico Madrid was projected to dominate the league and was expected to be a strong candidate to regain the title, but it seems that hope has been dashed. Indeed, the points aren't that far off and could still break through to get back to the top, but I'm just worried that Simeone is losing his magic this season. In fact, from other big teams like Madrid and Barcelona, that Atletico can be said to be the most prepared team if we look at the squad they have, the result of last night's match was clearly a surprising result even though it was a draw.
It was another disapointing result for atletico after this second draw in a row against a weak team that are not able to win so far, plus they did not perform well but considering no team is dominating this season and many seem at the same level even sevilla are a strong contender simeone need to find solution because they will play against betis next game and we all know how strong they are with three consecutive wins which put them on the fourth place.
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October 29, 2021, 10:16:40 AM
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I don't know who will replace Koeman especially because of financial problems at Barcelona but definitely new coach may give some impulse for the team. as you see other leading teams also lose points and today's game of Real Madrid also didn't look good.
Koeman's replacement is hard to find at the moment. Assuming money is not a problem for Barcelona, but where will they find an experienced coach now? The team is in such a bad situation now that it needs an experienced coach like Barcelona Guardiola or Klopp. Zidane is very experienced, but he is not interested in being the coach of Barcelona.
I dont think Zidane is a better manager to hire for this Barcelona considering the state of the team. Managing a group of young ambitious lads who are ready to fight for anything is different from managing an array of already established stars. Real Madrid was a team of already made players. Which ever manager that will step in, they will experience the same problem. Barcelona have not enough depth and quality in their current squad. The club is drowning in debt, an average squad no Money to sign any player the new manger may want to sign,  I am not sure anyone would want that job at this moment in time. The best players are gone but the manager is still expected to win pretty much every game. Koeman should have left the aging players like Luiz Suarez, Ivan Rakitic and Vidal to blend with this young ones. It would have helped.

No benefit in discussing Zidane. He was the coach of Real Madrid, he would not want to be the coach of Barcelona. At the same time, Barcelona fans do not want to see Zidane as the team's coach. The highest probability is to see a former Barcelona player as a coach. Because of the current state of the team, it is difficult to blend in easily with youngsters without former players. What do you think about Xavi? As far as the rumors I have heard, he is the most forward as the next coach of Barcelona. Will he be able to stabilize the team if he takes charge of the team at the moment?
Yeah I know Xavi Hernandez is expected to take over at the Barcelona after Ronald Koeman was dismissed. In my opinion, Xavi should stay at his current club else he will disgrace himself at Barcelona. The current situation is very very bad and no coach can transform this team within a short period. The players are not up to the standard, they are lower table squad standard but Barcelona want the coaches to perform magic for them to win trophies. Xavi's experience is not at the level to coach Barcelona, he's even not coaching in a top league like the EPL, Bundesliga, la liga or other top leagues.
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October 29, 2021, 11:08:34 AM
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No, that is definitely not the case. Barcelona's team is still good, not good enough to be among the strongest contenders for the Champions League of course, but nowhere near lower table material.

Even Xavi will have a decent result with them and they will eventually end up in the top 4, qualifying for next season's CL. The problem is that Barcelona is used to winning big trophies and they will not be satisfied with top 4 finishes.

Real and Atletico look strong domestically and there's huge competition from around Europe as well, Barcelona with Xavi simply does not look good enough for me to be able to challenge there.

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October 29, 2021, 01:22:57 PM
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No, that is definitely not the case. Barcelona's team is still good, not good enough to be among the strongest contenders for the Champions League of course, but nowhere near lower table material.

Even Xavi will have a decent result with them and they will eventually end up in the top 4, qualifying for next season's CL. The problem is that Barcelona is used to winning big trophies and they will not be satisfied with top 4 finishes.

Real and Atletico look strong domestically and there's huge competition from around Europe as well, Barcelona with Xavi simply does not look good enough for me to be able to challenge there.
To be honest i am growing tired of this Barcelona's ideology of always wanting to bring former players to the club. I think they should scrap this process. That's why some teams don't perform well. At the moment Barcelona needs a more experience coach to handle the pressure and build the young squad. Xavi is good for Barcelona but I will say not in their current state. I really thought Barcelona would have go with someone with vast managerial experience that can instill that winning mentality into these young players other than Xavi. Xavi Hernandez's team in Qatar is defensively exposed. They conceded a lot of goals. With score lines like 6-4, 7-3, etc. The level of football in Qatar is different compared to Europe. Barcelona does not even have a proper defender at the moment and they don't have funds to spend in luring one.
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October 29, 2021, 01:54:43 PM
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To be honest i am growing tired of this Barcelona's ideology of always wanting to bring former players to the club. I think they should scrap this process. That's why some teams don't perform well.
They are obsessed with their success in the past. They forget some important points. Tiki-taka were broken by their opponents and their ex-legendary players like Xavi would be obsessed with tiki-taka too. Will Xavi be able to help Barcelona get success with a Xavi-taka?

It is challenging for him and the player resource in Barcelona now is not too good. If they hire Xavi, they will have to sacrifice a few seasons, it is a cost. Barcelona are unsure on what they should do. Trying a new tactic, new coach or bind with tiki-taka.

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At the moment Barcelona needs a more experience coach to handle the pressure and build the young squad. Xavi is good for Barcelona but I will say not in their current state.
They want to save money and want some old players return to the club. They want a coach that can help fans have more sympathy if the club has bad results. Koeman is their ex-player but he belongs to a very far generation and I am sure many Barcelona fans now did not watch Koeman contributions for Barcelona in 1990s.

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October 29, 2021, 03:08:24 PM
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No, that is definitely not the case. Barcelona's team is still good, not good enough to be among the strongest contenders for the Champions League of course, but nowhere near lower table material.

Even Xavi will have a decent result with them and they will eventually end up in the top 4, qualifying for next season's CL. The problem is that Barcelona is used to winning big trophies and they will not be satisfied with top 4 finishes.

Real and Atletico look strong domestically and there's huge competition from around Europe as well, Barcelona with Xavi simply does not look good enough for me to be able to challenge there.

I don't think that Xavi will be able to change a lot in Barcelona right now. I am not against appointing Xavi the coach, but I think Barca could've got a more experienced coach. Because Barca hardly has the funds to player sign players and rebuild. So Xavi has to work with what he's given right now and has to get the best out of them. All I can say is I hope he does well with Barca.

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October 29, 2021, 03:55:08 PM
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the news about xavi is already all over the world, I understand that barcelona will have a new coach (interim coach) for this game against alaves, but this odd is a big exaggeration:

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Barcelona players are still the same players who have not brought victories, what makes bookmakers put such low odds?



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Exactly as you said! This is an exaggeration but I guess they target to move more bets in Alaves' surprise. Most likely, I will stay out of it. Barca is in a very bad shape but it's still Barcelona. Maybe now that they know that they will have a new manager to boost them and play as they should play.
Atletico seems like wants some other team to get the trophy and not them! How do they manage to end up with a draw, total fail. Too many expectations for a team that can't handle the pressure. Roll Eyes Cry

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October 29, 2021, 03:55:53 PM
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No, that is definitely not the case. Barcelona's team is still good, not good enough to be among the strongest contenders for the Champions League of course, but nowhere near lower table material.

Even Xavi will have a decent result with them and they will eventually end up in the top 4, qualifying for next season's CL. The problem is that Barcelona is used to winning big trophies and they will not be satisfied with top 4 finishes.

Real and Atletico look strong domestically and there's huge competition from around Europe as well, Barcelona with Xavi simply does not look good enough for me to be able to challenge there.

I don't think that Xavi will be able to change a lot in Barcelona right now. I am not against appointing Xavi the coach, but I think Barca could've got a more experienced coach. Because Barca hardly has the funds to player sign players and rebuild. So Xavi has to work with what he's given right now and has to get the best out of them. All I can say is I hope he does well with Barca.
Xavi should consider this carefully before taking this job,so he won't reduce the love we Barca fans have for him,he is a good player,the best in the world in his position when he was still playing but right now as a coach I can't rate him,I heard he is a good coach there, that he has won trophies,if he believe he can do the job then let him take it.

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October 29, 2021, 04:05:09 PM
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Even Xavi will have a decent result with them and they will eventually end up in the top 4, qualifying for next season's CL. The problem is that Barcelona is used to winning big trophies and they will not be satisfied with top 4 finishes.


It is clear that Barcelona do feel that what they have achieved has not been more than when they won the previous big trophy. The players also didn't seem too over the game. They want more, while in the coaching camp that Xavi is trying to fight for is still not enough to provide the opportunities they want to achieve. During Xavi coaching Barcelona experienced setbacks. Although in fact Xavi achievement is a good start at Barcelona.

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October 29, 2021, 04:07:32 PM
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I don't think that Xavi will be able to change a lot in Barcelona right now. I am not against appointing Xavi the coach, but I think Barca could've got a more experienced coach. Because Barca hardly has the funds to player sign players and rebuild. So Xavi has to work with what he's given right now and has to get the best out of them. All I can say is I hope he does well with Barca.

In terms of experience, Xavi does not deserve to be Barca coach. Even though when he was a player he was an intelligent player it was very different when he was a coach. But I agree with your reasons it is quite reasonable. Indeed with Al Sadd xavi was so good, he was able to get 7 titles in just 2 years together. But Barcelona has a different climate, choosing xavi is a gamble for barca.

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I don't want XAVI either as he has a great mind but he was never a great leader and a coach needs to have both of them in order to find success. Now XAVI ran for money to coach instead of getting a small team and gather experience with them ...so I have so many doubts regarding Xavi that I don't even want to think of him being the coach of Barcelona. Better place Puyol there and I'm sure everyone will fear Barcelona.

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October 29, 2021, 04:14:57 PM
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I don't think that Xavi will be able to change a lot in Barcelona right now. I am not against appointing Xavi the coach, but I think Barca could've got a more experienced coach. Because Barca hardly has the funds to player sign players and rebuild. So Xavi has to work with what he's given right now and has to get the best out of them. All I can say is I hope he does well with Barca.

In terms of experience, Xavi does not deserve to be Barca coach. Even though when he was a player he was an intelligent player it was very different when he was a coach. But I agree with your reasons it is quite reasonable. Indeed with Al Sadd xavi was so good, he was able to get 7 titles in just 2 years together. But Barcelona has a different climate, choosing xavi is a gamble for barca.
At the moment if you will be looking for qualifications then chances are Barcelona will not have a coach as the shoes are too big for anyone to fit in! AFAIK the club needs a person with Barça roots and knows what the club objectives are right from the start! Xavi not only being coach, has been a player before and an exceptional one for that matter and I think it will take a coach like him to inspire the current crop that's there to fight for the clubs lost glory and status. All I can day is all the best to the legend!!

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October 29, 2021, 04:25:20 PM
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I don't want XAVI either as he has a great mind but he was never a great leader and a coach needs to have both of them in order to find success. Now XAVI ran for money to coach instead of getting a small team and gather experience with them ...so I have so many doubts regarding Xavi that I don't even want to think of him being the coach of Barcelona. Better place Puyol there and I'm sure everyone will fear Barcelona.

Puyol ? Like you meant Puyol ?
No no, Barcelona needs a coach with the tiki taka in his tactics,this has made the team performed with full force,the only person who suit's this perfectly is nobody but Xavi Hernandez, don't be biased because you dislike a coach in he's playing days which has nothing to do with he's coaching skills...we have seen how good the team he manages plays,he will sure be successful at Barcelona but demands times and new set of players, this only disturbance to this is the financial crises Barcelona are facing.

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October 29, 2021, 04:29:13 PM
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No, that is definitely not the case. Barcelona's team is still good, not good enough to be among the strongest contenders for the Champions League of course, but nowhere near lower table material.

from what i see in this season all teams are weak, so barcelona at the level that this could easily be champion, i'm a fan of real madrid, so i'm talking neutrally.

sociedad is not strong, by some luck of fate they are managing to win the games, but it is clear that they are not a strong team, they are winning by pure luck

atletico is also weak

real madrid is also weak


the problem of barcelona was dismissed a player who was very good scorers and put in players who were not so good scorers, Luis Suárez and Antoine Griezmann are scoring goals in atletico

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October 29, 2021, 04:30:54 PM
 #11300



The current look of the standings is really interesting. Real Sociedad are the leader now but they have an extra game played though. Still, it proves how much good they are perfoming in this season. If they manage to keep this effort and performance up till the end, they can end in top 3 places in the worst case I believe. Favorites like Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona and Sevilla all lost points on the same game weekend which was quite surprising. Actually, Atletico Madrid were close to winning last night but they were devastated by the goal came in the 90th minute.
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