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November 11, 2021, 05:40:18 PM
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You sure about this?
The last time Barcelona had that fear factor was during the time of Guardiola. Just look up the data and see how many times they have bottled in the past decade. If there's any team to fear in the History of UCL, it's Real Madrid. They didn't win it 3 consecutive times by mistake.
Of course not, I mean Barcelona should immediately return to the top 4 beside Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Sevilla or Sociedad who will represent Laliga to the Champions League. The participation of Barcelona and Real Madrid as Champions League always get attention because they have previously dominated Europe. They used to be a scary team in Europe, but maybe not in recent seasons except for Real Madrid. This season Barcelona have not lost anything because they still have the opportunity to improve, but yes it is quite difficult to realize because their stock of experienced players is very limited due to injury.

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November 11, 2021, 05:50:29 PM
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You sure about this?
The last time Barcelona had that fear factor was during the time of Guardiola. Just look up the data and see how many times they have bottled in the past decade. If there's any team to fear in the History of UCL, it's Real Madrid. They didn't win it 3 consecutive times by mistake.
Of course not, I mean Barcelona should immediately return to the top 4 beside Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Sevilla or Sociedad who will represent Laliga to the Champions League. The participation of Barcelona and Real Madrid as Champions League always get attention because they have previously dominated Europe. They used to be a scary team in Europe, but maybe not in recent seasons except for Real Madrid. This season Barcelona have not lost anything because they still have the opportunity to improve, but yes it is quite difficult to realize because their stock of experienced players is very limited due to injury.
I think this is too pushy for Barcelona with its current form.
but indeed there is still the possibility of something like this happening because La Liga is just about to lead to the middle of the season.
on the other hand I think they should completely free them from the financial situation that ensnares them at the moment.
it was a fixed price they had to fight now. don't focus too much on the championship or really don't force it, the most important thing is that their image and finances improve for this season

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November 11, 2021, 06:23:29 PM
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Everyone wants and wishes Xavi to succeed but it's a fact that Xavi isn't an experienced manager as it goes for this level. Xavi is a bet for Barcelona, even if he is (and always be) a legend. I doubt that he has the same calibre as a manager as he did as a player, besides that he lacks managerial experience.

I read some local media that the coaching career at Al sadd SC was quite good. But it's true that you say barca and al sadd are different. Maybe European football is tougher competition and pressure. Let's see because it looks like xavi's current generation of peamins are changing themselves as football coaches. If Xavi is successful maybe he will last a long time, but if Barcelona are still struggling financially then buying new players seems difficult to happen and this will have an impact on the strength of the team.

Because the competition is not too aggressive as in the Spanish league. If under Xavi coaching, Barcelona [will definitely experience a change in the game. Maybe by winning the next few games Barcelona can get back to the game arrangement they were hoping for. Xavi has a suitable task for him to ban for the period of 1 season ahead. With Xavi in charge, we have at least one hope that Barcelona can show a competitive game as usual.

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November 11, 2021, 06:26:09 PM
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Yes, this is all normal, discipline should be in the team, no one will argue with this. And maybe Xavi do it all for a reason, maybe he just sees a big problem in the lack of discipline in the team at the moment. But a good relationship between the coach and the players is also a very important aspect, everything should be in complex. If the team has a strictly working relationship, then such a team will not be able to show great results.
I'm afraid if this is indeed a lot of pressure because the rules make them a bit more problematic even the reason for coming to practice must be early, and indeed this is discipline something that must be applied but if it's too much then it won't be an interaction with the players.

Remember now there may be no impact because it is still in the international break, if they return to the league then we will know how much influence this discipline will have but with a strong reason Xavi applies.

Actually, this not should be complex and there should be no disagreements.

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November 11, 2021, 06:58:09 PM
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^ Well, I have high hopes about Xavi being the manager of Barcelona. He is not that experienced but I think he has what it takes to do this job. And Barcelona needed new management considering their performance and players morale and also the financial situation. And I really hope Xavi can take this Club out of this shit show and Barcelona be back on the winning ways.

Given the fact that now at the trainings first of all there will be respect for the coach, because it is a legend of the club during his career, I think the players will start winning and do everything for it, so that Xavi is not fired. So most likely Barça will start winning no matter what it takes) Moreover, the former player knows better what the players lack and what they need to improve

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November 11, 2021, 07:13:28 PM
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^ Well, I have high hopes about Xavi being the manager of Barcelona. He is not that experienced but I think he has what it takes to do this job. And Barcelona needed new management considering their performance and players morale and also the financial situation. And I really hope Xavi can take this Club out of this shit show and Barcelona be back on the winning ways.
What's is Xavi melts to pressure and fails at Barcelona, he is picking up a Barcelona with financial down settings, players that may play in my college football team on the bench, and Xavi isn't new playing in Europe but coaching like great football legends like giggs, Gary neville is easier analysing and criticizing at a football talk show, than in the technical area, my expectations for Xavi as the new Barcelona coach is uefa champions league next season.

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November 11, 2021, 07:14:59 PM
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Everyone wants and wishes Xavi to succeed but it's a fact that Xavi isn't an experienced manager as it goes for this level. Xavi is a bet for Barcelona, even if he is (and always be) a legend. I doubt that he has the same calibre as a manager as he did as a player, besides that he lacks managerial experience.

I read some local media that the coaching career at Al sadd SC was quite good. But it's true that you say barca and al sadd are different. Maybe European football is tougher competition and pressure. Let's see because it looks like xavi's current generation of peamins are changing themselves as football coaches. If Xavi is successful maybe he will last a long time, but if Barcelona are still struggling financially then buying new players seems difficult to happen and this will have an impact on the strength of the team.

Because the competition is not too aggressive as in the Spanish league. If under Xavi coaching, Barcelona [will definitely experience a change in the game. Maybe by winning the next few games Barcelona can get back to the game arrangement they were hoping for. Xavi has a suitable task for him to ban for the period of 1 season ahead. With Xavi in charge, we have at least one hope that Barcelona can show a competitive game as usual.

I do NOT think that the changes will be so dramatic. The teams in Laliga have increased their level and Barcelona without Messi is not so scary for them. Therefore, they will show more aggressive play against her than before. And Barcelona now has no strong players who can oppose such a game. There will be victories, but it is not worth demanding a victorious march from Xavi. He will have a very difficult job.
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November 11, 2021, 07:30:06 PM
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I do NOT think that the changes will be so dramatic. The teams in Laliga have increased their level and Barcelona without Messi is not so scary for them. Therefore, they will show more aggressive play against her than before. And Barcelona now has no strong players who can oppose such a game. There will be victories, but it is not worth demanding a victorious march from Xavi. He will have a very difficult job.
Barcelona has entered a different era after Xavi and Iniesta are no longer in the team as players. They lost a lot of important players like messi, Suarez and some other players in the last few season. The quality of the team has decreased while there is no worthy player to replace them all so Barcelona is on a different level. This is clearly a concern that Barcelona will be eliminated from participation in the Champions League every season because they are not able to compete with other team that continue to develop.

There's nothing wrong with expecting something good from Xavi's return to the team as coach, that's good in my opinion. Many things will be changed and also regarding the application of rule and sanction for players who violate, it will never be superfluous to apply because a good start starts with discipline.

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November 11, 2021, 07:47:06 PM
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I do NOT think that the changes will be so dramatic. The teams in Laliga have increased their level and Barcelona without Messi is not so scary for them. Therefore, they will show more aggressive play against her than before. And Barcelona now has no strong players who can oppose such a game. There will be victories, but it is not worth demanding a victorious march from Xavi. He will have a very difficult job.
Barcelona has entered a different era after Xavi and Iniesta are no longer in the team as players. They lost a lot of important players like messi, Suarez and some other players in the last few season. The quality of the team has decreased while there is no worthy player to replace them all so Barcelona is on a different level. This is clearly a concern that Barcelona will be eliminated from participation in the Champions League every season because they are not able to compete with other team that continue to develop.

There's nothing wrong with expecting something good from Xavi's return to the team as coach, that's good in my opinion. Many things will be changed and also regarding the application of rule and sanction for players who violate, it will never be superfluous to apply because a good start starts with discipline.
Xavi has indeed been in Barcelona for quite a long time and he is also a living legend for Barcelona, ​​but I personally highly doubt that later Xavi will be able to bring about a complete change to the Barcelona squad, I agree that his capacity as a player so far has been quite extraordinary  in Barcelona, ​​but as a coach, to be honest, I still highly doubt it, even though he managed to bring Al Sadd to victory in the Qatar League but we know that the Qatar League and La Liga have quite a big difference.

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November 11, 2021, 08:28:18 PM
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With Xavi officially becoming Barcelona coach, this is a new start for Barcelona.
With Xavi, we can expect a return of real tiki-taka or a new version of it. After the domination of Barcelona, clubs around Europe tried to break it and they succeeded as well as national teams successfully beat Spain.

So if Xavi is obsessed with tiki-taka, he must renew it and fix holes of the tactic. Current player resource of Barcelona is a challenge for Xavi and I don't hope too high that they can complete the season in top 4 or higher. The 4th position can be the highest one they can reach to at the end of this season.

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I hope Xavi can make Barcelona's performance better and at least this season can be in the top 4,  so that Barcelona can play in the Champions League next season. Because Barcelona's target this season is to enter the Champions League spot
It's mandatory task for Xavi because without Champions League, Barcelona will become less attractive in eyes of star players and they will also lose a big source of income.

Xavi is not experienced as a coach, even Xavi's coaching career only started as Al Sadd coach in 2019. But Xavi really knows Barcelona, because
Xavi started playing for Barcelona from 1997 to 2015. That's a very long time to know everything about Barcelona, so Barcelona management
hopes Xavi can restore Barcelona's glory. I also really want to see Barcelona play real tiki-taka, I believe Xavi can make it happen. Xavi who has
won many trophies with Barcelona when he was a player, must have understood very well that it is very important for a team like Barcelona to play
in the Champions League. So it must be Xavi's top priority to get Barcelona back into the top 4 this season, and I also believe Xavi can make
Barcelona successful without Messi.

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November 11, 2021, 09:52:40 PM
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Now the Barcelona players have nothing to do but work hard. Young players should be more diligent to become more experienced. Now they should give up their hopes of winning the Champions League this season, making sure they qualify for the Champions League next season. Barcelona will fail to qualify for next season's Champions League unless their current performance improves.
I believe that Barcelona players have zero excuse now. The main idea was that the manager was bad and they fired him and now that only reason left is having the players win these games with the help of Xavi. Otherwise if they still keep on failing then maybe Xavi could be fired as well, or just not get his contract renewed but it is guaranteed that players will be gone.

It is not going to be easy for them, it is going to be taking some time for them to recover and it will be hard for first few games. Nevertheless in 5 games they should be reaching to a level where they are like old Barcelona, win 80% of the games and be at the high end otherwise it is not going to be acceptable and all the players would be on the line for selling and getting better players.
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November 11, 2021, 10:02:11 PM
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I personally highly doubt that later Xavi will be able to bring about a complete change to the Barcelona squad, I agree that his capacity as a player so far has been quite extraordinary  in Barcelona, ​​but as a coach, to be honest, I still highly doubt it, even though he managed to bring Al Sadd to victory in the Qatar League but we know that the Qatar League and La Liga have quite a big difference.
Do you think winning in Qatar league is so easy? Leading Al Sadd to dominate Qatar league is a great achievement, bro. Not all top coaches can do it although the league isn't as famous as La Liga or Premier League. I think we must appreciate it, Xavi can show us that he has a capacity to be a great coach. Moreover, he was a great player in Barcelona, even he is a legend player. Why don't we try to trust him?

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Xavi is not experienced as a coach, even Xavi's coaching career only started as Al Sadd coach in 2019. But Xavi really knows Barcelona, because
Xavi started playing for Barcelona from 1997 to 2015. That's a very long time to know everything about Barcelona, so Barcelona management
hopes Xavi can restore Barcelona's glory. I also really want to see Barcelona play real tiki-taka, I believe Xavi can make it happen. Xavi who has
won many trophies with Barcelona when he was a player, must have understood very well that it is very important for a team like Barcelona to play
in the Champions League. So it must be Xavi's top priority to get Barcelona back into the top 4 this season, and I also believe Xavi can make
Barcelona successful without Messi.

Xavi might not be experienced as a coach,thats not even the point here,the point is Xavi had played for Barcelona since 1997 to 2015 and almost all the squad that were used by the former coach by then that he played together with has been dissolved.
 As team players, you would easily know virtually everything about players individually in your club side and maybe from opponents that have played severally with your club. So literally, Xavi knew everything about their club pattern of gaming,since he was one of them but now since he left,he hasn't been in contact with the team not until now so the might still be a possibility of xavi not being able to reach the club's standard until maybe in the later future.

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November 11, 2021, 10:39:04 PM
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Atletico Madrid won only one time in their last four La Liga matches. They got draws in the rest of those matches which is a big problem for them. They were really close to getting a certain victory in their last match against Valencia but they were devastated by the late goals in the stoppage time. This time they are hosting Osasuna. They must win this match to pull themselves together. Osasuna are in a worse form lately so that is a big opportunity for Atletico Madrid. I suppose they will win this match.
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Atletico Madrid won only one time in their last four La Liga matches. They got draws in the rest of those matches which is a big problem for them. They were really close to getting a certain victory in their last match against Valencia but they were devastated by the late goals in the stoppage time. This time they are hosting Osasuna. They must win this match to pull themselves together. Osasuna are in a worse form lately so that is a big opportunity for Atletico Madrid. I suppose they will win this match.
They will win the match definitely because they're on fine form but what's always the problem the have every single time about goal scoring? Yeah , athletico?
The barely score a multi goals and scored the last brace 14 years ago when douglas coasta never joined them yet,well i don't know if the squad plays a formation that when they score,they immediately stand back to their goal and convert defence into attack ...i don't think so

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November 11, 2021, 11:09:01 PM
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Atletico Madrid won only one time in their last four La Liga matches. They got draws in the rest of those matches which is a big problem for them. They were really close to getting a certain victory in their last match against Valencia but they were devastated by the late goals in the stoppage time. This time they are hosting Osasuna. They must win this match to pull themselves together. Osasuna are in a worse form lately so that is a big opportunity for Atletico Madrid. I suppose they will win this match.
Yes, in the last match with Real Madrid, they could only get draw result in 3-3.
Both are great clubs and they played very well.
For the next match itself, Valencia will meet real Sociedad..
So far, Real Sociedad so far has 28 points and Valencia only 17 points.
Real Sociedad may have better confidence to win that match.
It's so pity for some clubs that are actually and should be in the top 5, but on the contrary, are ranked 9th and 10th, like Valencia and Barcelona.

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November 11, 2021, 11:16:49 PM
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Xavi Hernandez deserves more than an what is currently being said about him... going outta your league, performing good enough to improve the team most over hyped coaches could not do.
I'm just too proud of Xavi's tactics,with him handling the team i hope to see them qualify for the Champions League round of sixteen.
The old system of play introduced by Johan Cruyff of making your defenders attackers and your attackers defender's will be implemented once more, seems once Gon watch a great game soon.

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November 11, 2021, 11:26:18 PM
Last edit: November 12, 2021, 12:50:03 AM by AndySt
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It doesn't need to create a friendly relationship between manager and the players. Players are not the friends of the manager, they are the workers and manager is a worker one level higher, imagine a worker and their chef, even a CEO can be fired so even a CEO is a worker technically. Long story short the job of Xavi is to win games, not to make friends. If Xavi could turn the team around and win many games then nobody would question the methods that he would have.
Plus, most of the stuff that he requests is not really that weird, eat healthy meals that are prepared for you? Great thing, come in just half an hour earlier? You are getting paid millions upon millions half an hour should not be problem, do not go out and drink and party like crazy before a game? Common sense. These are all stuff that makes sense if you ask me and should be supported.
Yes, this is all normal, discipline should be in the team, no one will argue with this. And maybe Xavi do it all for a reason, maybe he just sees a big problem in the lack of discipline in the team at the moment. But a good relationship between the coach and the players is also a very important aspect, everything should be in complex. If the team has a strictly working relationship, then such a team will not be able to show great results.
One does not interfere with the other. It's just that football players should know that if certain requirements are not met, they will have to sacrifice something, for example, a certain amount of money. Every football coach sets a certain bar for his behavior with the team, someone acts softer, someone acts tougher. Let's not forget that Xavi is a young coach and such measures to some extent help to strengthen his authority as the main one in the team. But of course, a certain balance is needed in everything, because the team must obey the will of the coach and fulfill his instructions on the field, but on the other hand, this should not enslave the team, making a difficult microclimate in the team.
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November 11, 2021, 11:55:24 PM
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I also admit that Xavi does not have enough experience to coach a big team like Barcelona. But Koeman was much more experienced. He has led the team to further decline. Xavi at least don't take Barcelona further down. He may not be experienced enough, but I believe he can blend in with the players very quickly. Able to develop young players more experienced. A coach like Xavi was needed to boost the morale of the young players.
Experience is important but the way you treat players is another thing that could make Xavi more successful than Koeman.
Koeman pushed some players out of Barca, made others feel neglected and with Messi leaving and injuries it became a sad story for the team. Now Xavi can bring back the necessary confidence for the team and with the actual talented players, they should start winning more frequently.. Hopefully..

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Experience is important but the way you treat players is another thing that could make Xavi more successful than Koeman.
Koeman pushed some players out of Barca, made others feel neglected and with Messi leaving and injuries it became a sad story for the team. Now Xavi can bring back the necessary confidence for the team and with the actual talented players, they should start winning more frequently.. Hopefully..

Much as I disliked Koeman a lot, I don't think you can really blame him for pushing players out. He was the head coach at Barca, he didn't have control over how much players were paid or who were extended or anything, that's all on the Barca management and owners, especially the president.

Sure, Koeman could have done better than tell Suarez on a phone call he was gone (and for that he can take responsibility for the way players felt and fired him up to win with Atletico). But he was in reality just the messenger of bad news.

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