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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (25.2%)
Real Madrid - 76 (66.1%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (7%)
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October 28, 2021, 03:32:17 AM
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I don't know why bookmakers are giving such high odds on a Barcelona win, but I will definitely take advantage of it! I'll even bet on Barcelona to win with a handicap (-1) for 2.4... Of all the personal meetings Rayo Vallecano has beaten Barcelona only 4 times, the last time was in 2002... Other times Barca has won and often with a big score! All the more reason for them to gain points!
Barcelona is no longer the team we used to know,to beat small teams and get the three pints,.Barcelona has changed to be a team that cannot win match. No wonder why they give them that kind of odd,and don't be surprise that they will win Barcelona.

They are in a bad shape at the moment,and I don't really know why it is like that,because the kind of players they have in their squad is still enough to make things happen,and to win matches.
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October 28, 2021, 04:18:35 AM
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Barcelona? I said yesterday about Barcelona which seemed dubious, I can only say good luck to you. In fact, to bet on ML I'm not sure, but he actually bet with the option AH -1 for Barcelona, it's a risky bet I think. Now the result is visible and I'm a bit surprised too even though it's only 1-0, because I thought Barcelona could still score a goal even if it was a draw, but the reality is even worse that Depay failed to score from the penalty spot.

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October 28, 2021, 06:05:44 AM
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Barcelona fired Ronald Koeman and they will try to hire Xavi as a new coach.
This seems like another experiment to me.Xavi is a Barca legend,but he doesn't have any experience leading such a big team.
Barca releasing Koeman was pretty much expected,since the performance of the team is a disaster.
I don't think that Xavi will change anything in how the team plays.Returning "Tiki Taka" won't be successful,because Barca doesn't have good midfielders right now.Perhaps Xavi won't be the new coach of Barcelona.
Good luck to the new Barca coach,whoever he is.

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October 28, 2021, 06:17:19 AM
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Barcelona fired Ronald Koeman and they will try to hire Xavi as a new coach.
This seems like another experiment to me.Xavi is a Barca legend,but he doesn't have any experience leading such a big team.
Barca releasing Koeman was pretty much expected,since the performance of the team is a disaster.
I don't think that Xavi will change anything in how the team plays.Returning "Tiki Taka" won't be successful,because Barca doesn't have good midfielders right now.Perhaps Xavi won't be the new coach of Barcelona.
Good luck to the new Barca coach,whoever he is.

the whole thing was long overdue and after yesterday's 0-1 defeat against rayo vallecano the logical consequence.
a successor is not yet fixed, but in my opinion fits to this club a coach with southern roots and in the best case someone who knows this great club already

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"The president of the club, Joan Laporta, informed [Koeman] of the decision after the defeat against Rayo Vallecano," a club statement read. "Ronald Koeman will say goodbye to the squad on Thursday," the statement added.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ronald-koeman-released-by-barcelona-quot-will-say-goodbye-to-the-squad-on-thursday-quot-/view/news/394556

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October 28, 2021, 07:03:01 AM
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the whole thing was long overdue and after yesterday's 0-1 defeat against rayo vallecano the logical consequence.
a successor is not yet fixed, but in my opinion fits to this club a coach with southern roots and in the best case someone who knows this great club already

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"The president of the club, Joan Laporta, informed [Koeman] of the decision after the defeat against Rayo Vallecano," a club statement read. "Ronald Koeman will say goodbye to the squad on Thursday," the statement added.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ronald-koeman-released-by-barcelona-quot-will-say-goodbye-to-the-squad-on-thursday-quot-/view/news/394556
Ronald Koeman has given all he has but it's quite obvious his best isn't good enough. Joan Laporta has already considered Xavi and has contacted him weeks ago before giving Roland koeman a last chance against Rayo Vallecano link. Xavi was once one of the best midfielders and former Barcelona captain a manager at Qatar Stars League . He knows the club inside out. He might be a good match
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October 28, 2021, 07:06:08 AM
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Barcelona fired Ronald Koeman and they will try to hire Xavi as a new coach.
This seems like another experiment to me.Xavi is a Barca legend,but he doesn't have any experience leading such a big team.
Barca releasing Koeman was pretty much expected,since the performance of the team is a disaster.
I don't think that Xavi will change anything in how the team plays.Returning "Tiki Taka" won't be successful,because Barca doesn't have good midfielders right now.Perhaps Xavi won't be the new coach of Barcelona.
Good luck to the new Barca coach,whoever he is.
Finally barcelona sacked Koeman and barcelona they seem to have taken a risk by paying a sizeable compensation for the dismissal, currently there are 5 prospective coaches who are rumored to be coaching Barcelona namely roberto martines, Ernesto Valverde, Ralf Rangnick, Erik Ten Hag and Xavi Hernandez, the sacking of Koeman This was done after Barcelona suffered a defeat in the Rayo match and it is very likely that Xavi Hernandes who is now coaching the Al Sadd (Qatar club) will continue Koeman duties at Barcelona this season.

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October 28, 2021, 08:58:21 AM
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Barcelona fired Ronald Koeman and they will try to hire Xavi as a new coach.
This seems like another experiment to me.Xavi is a Barca legend,but he doesn't have any experience leading such a big team.
Barca releasing Koeman was pretty much expected,since the performance of the team is a disaster.
I don't think that Xavi will change anything in how the team plays.Returning "Tiki Taka" won't be successful,because Barca doesn't have good midfielders right now.Perhaps Xavi won't be the new coach of Barcelona.
Good luck to the new Barca coach,whoever he is.
This is Barcelona's worst start to a season since the 1987-1988 campaign and already six points off the top four leaves them in a potential battle just to make the Champions League this term. This problem is from the president, Xavi Hernandez taking over won't change anything because it wasn't the time for Lionel Messi to leave the club. What next for them is that they will get another manager and if he's not good enough like the previous they will still sack him. Since they keep blaming the Coaches so let's hope their problem is over now. Let's hope they will keep winning when the new Coach comes. I expected this sack but didnt think it would come now. Koeman was not just lucky and i hope he finds balance in his new club.
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October 28, 2021, 09:33:16 AM
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Barcelona fired Ronald Koeman and they will try to hire Xavi as a new coach.
This seems like another experiment to me.Xavi is a Barca legend,but he doesn't have any experience leading such a big team.
Barca releasing Koeman was pretty much expected,since the performance of the team is a disaster.
I don't think that Xavi will change anything in how the team plays.Returning "Tiki Taka" won't be successful,because Barca doesn't have good midfielders right now.Perhaps Xavi won't be the new coach of Barcelona.
Good luck to the new Barca coach,whoever he is.

Barcelona's decision to fire Ronald Koeman was a bold decision, considering Barcelona's poor financial condition because when they fired Koeman Barcelona had to pay compensation. Maybe one of the reasons why Barcelona wanted to sign Xavi as a coach was also due to budget constraints, where Barcelona only had a budget limit of 3.91 million Euros that could be used to sign new coaches.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/barcelona-espbarcelona/story/4487945/barcelonas-money-crisis-forced-lionel-messi-out-will-it-leave-them-stuck-with-ronald-koeman

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October 28, 2021, 09:42:12 AM
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Rayo Vallecano 1 - 0 FC Barcelona

Real Madrid 0 - 0 CA Osasuna



as a real madrid fan I watched this real madrid game and I was very angry with the game, it was an irritating game, karin benzema missed the few opportunities he had, marcelono could have scored if he had more attention and courage, but he preferred to do it pass and no teammate took the ball.

as for barcelona, well it didn't even seem like barcelona because of so much failure on the field, it seemed that i was seeing my country's team playing because their performance was so sad and disappointing


Two good choices in my opinion, but for the match between rayo against barcelona it looks like it will give me a little doubt, I think now barcelona is still not improving and rayo in the last few games they also continue to get positive results, that's why it looks like the match will ended in a draw and if later rayo will be strengthened by falcao, honestly I will bet for rayo victory Cheesy.

well you got it right, the falcao scored a goal and sealed the victory of the rayo

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October 28, 2021, 10:09:15 AM
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Barcelona fired Ronald Koeman and they will try to hire Xavi as a new coach.
This seems like another experiment to me.Xavi is a Barca legend,but he doesn't have any experience leading such a big team.
Barca releasing Koeman was pretty much expected,since the performance of the team is a disaster.
I don't think that Xavi will change anything in how the team plays.Returning "Tiki Taka" won't be successful,because Barca doesn't have good midfielders right now.Perhaps Xavi won't be the new coach of Barcelona.
Good luck to the new Barca coach,whoever he is.
Barcelona's decision to fire Ronald Koeman was a bold decision, considering Barcelona's poor financial condition because when they fired Koeman Barcelona had to pay compensation. Maybe one of the reasons why Barcelona wanted to sign Xavi as a coach was also due to budget constraints, where Barcelona only had a budget limit of 3.91 million Euros that could be used to sign new coaches.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/barcelona-espbarcelona/story/4487945/barcelonas-money-crisis-forced-lionel-messi-out-will-it-leave-them-stuck-with-ronald-koeman
Xavi is a good decision even though he has never coached a big team and competed in Europe but I believe Xavi has good discipline for Barcelona even I hope the tiki taka game can bounce back after Xavi takes over as coach.

I saw the news about Xavi but forgot about the source he has made the changes he is coaching now that has even improved the club for the better, so it is not impossible at Barcelona Xavi could be more for Barca if his move occurs.

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October 28, 2021, 10:29:35 AM
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Barcelona fired Ronald Koeman and they will try to hire Xavi as a new coach.
This seems like another experiment to me.Xavi is a Barca legend,but he doesn't have any experience leading such a big team.
Barca releasing Koeman was pretty much expected,since the performance of the team is a disaster.
I don't think that Xavi will change anything in how the team plays.Returning "Tiki Taka" won't be successful,because Barca doesn't have good midfielders right now.Perhaps Xavi won't be the new coach of Barcelona.
Good luck to the new Barca coach,whoever he is.
Finally barcelona sacked Koeman and barcelona they seem to have taken a risk by paying a sizeable compensation for the dismissal, currently there are 5 prospective coaches who are rumored to be coaching Barcelona namely roberto martines, Ernesto Valverde, Ralf Rangnick, Erik Ten Hag and Xavi Hernandez, the sacking of Koeman This was done after Barcelona suffered a defeat in the Rayo match and it is very likely that Xavi Hernandes who is now coaching the Al Sadd (Qatar club) will continue Koeman duties at Barcelona this season.

It is not the matter of dismissing Koeman and bringing new new coaches. It's not about Koeman. It's about the Barcelona team and the management. Even if you hire Pep Guardiola now they will struggle. I can't see any positive character in this team who can lead them, like Messi, Xavi and Iniesta did. Apart from few players they all are flops. Wonder how Pique still playing for Barcelona. He can't run, can't tackle. I watch the Match against Rayo Vallecano, and you don't expect Koeman to get on the pitch to score for that full team that missed lot of chances and can’t shoot on target. Dest wasting two golden chances from the last two games. They all play so how’s is it his fault . Go rest and rest Koeman and leave those flops alone. The new manager must have a lot of work to do.
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October 28, 2021, 10:42:06 AM
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I don't know why bookmakers are giving such high odds on a Barcelona win, but I will definitely take advantage of it! I'll even bet on Barcelona to win with a handicap (-1) for 2.4... Of all the personal meetings Rayo Vallecano has beaten Barcelona only 4 times, the last time was in 2002... Other times Barca has won and often with a big score! All the more reason for them to gain points!
Barcelona is no longer the team we used to know,to beat small teams and get the three pints,.Barcelona has changed to be a team that cannot win match. No wonder why they give them that kind of odd,and don't be surprise that they will win Barcelona.

They are in a bad shape at the moment,and I don't really know why it is like that,because the kind of players they have in their squad is still enough to make things happen,and to win matches.

Yes, Barcelona is full of shit! They had 17 shots on goal and 15 of them missed! Maybe now I won't consider this club as a top club... Now there's only Real and Atletico in Spain! I don't think Barcelona will rise to the top ranks this season... Especially if there is a change of coach in the near future...

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October 28, 2021, 11:37:06 AM
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Koeman's replacement is hard to find at the moment. Assuming money is not a problem for Barcelona, but where will they find an experienced coach now? The team is in such a bad situation now that it needs an experienced coach like Barcelona Guardiola or Klopp. Zidane is very experienced, but he is not interested in being the coach of Barcelona.

the choice of free coaches is quite wide and it should be a man with experience of working with big team. for example, Andrea Pirlo, Gennaro Gattuso or Paulo Fonseca. first of all there is a need to fix the team play because players doesn't understand each other.

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October 28, 2021, 11:46:15 AM
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Koeman's replacement is hard to find at the moment. Assuming money is not a problem for Barcelona, but where will they find an experienced coach now? The team is in such a bad situation now that it needs an experienced coach like Barcelona Guardiola or Klopp. Zidane is very experienced, but he is not interested in being the coach of Barcelona.

the choice of free coaches is quite wide and it should be a man with experience of working with big team. for example, Andrea Pirlo, Gennaro Gattuso or Paulo Fonseca. first of all there is a need to fix the team play because players doesn't understand each other.
I dont think finding a coach is barcelona big problems many big names are not coaching currently so they can find a replacement for coeman the problem is that they lack players you can count on when in a difficult situation like messi and as weve seen depay is not that kind of players he missed a penalty in yesterday game that was critical for barcelona comeback in the game, plus coutinho who is not doing much in all the games he played, even with a new coach he need to get through to these players and improve barcelona play style.
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October 28, 2021, 12:42:08 PM
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Koeman's replacement is hard to find at the moment. Assuming money is not a problem for Barcelona, but where will they find an experienced coach now? The team is in such a bad situation now that it needs an experienced coach like Barcelona Guardiola or Klopp. Zidane is very experienced, but he is not interested in being the coach of Barcelona.
the choice of free coaches is quite wide and it should be a man with experience of working with big team. for example, Andrea Pirlo, Gennaro Gattuso or Paulo Fonseca. first of all there is a need to fix the team play because players doesn't understand each other.
I dont think finding a coach is barcelona big problems many big names are not coaching currently so they can find a replacement for coeman the problem is that they lack players you can count on when in a difficult situation like messi and as weve seen depay is not that kind of players he missed a penalty in yesterday game that was critical for barcelona comeback in the game, plus coutinho who is not doing much in all the games he played, even with a new coach he need to get through to these players and improve barcelona play style.

Finding a coach is not a problem for Barcelona, ​​but finding a coach who can adapt quickly to experienced coaches and team players, and who can improve Barcelona quickly is very difficult now. The condition of the team is very bad. Barcelona are now on the verge of death due to one wrong decision after another after Koeman joined the team. It is challenging to strengthen the team again from such a position. I think Barca management can give the responsibility of the team to one of their former players.

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October 28, 2021, 12:50:24 PM
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I don't know who will replace Koeman especially because of financial problems at Barcelona but definitely new coach may give some impulse for the team. as you see other leading teams also lose points and today's game of Real Madrid also didn't look good.

Koeman's replacement is hard to find at the moment. Assuming money is not a problem for Barcelona, but where will they find an experienced coach now? The team is in such a bad situation now that it needs an experienced coach like Barcelona Guardiola or Klopp. Zidane is very experienced, but he is not interested in being the coach of Barcelona.
I dont think Zidane is a better manager to hire for this Barcelona considering the state of the team. Managing a group of young ambitious lads who are ready to fight for anything is different from managing an array of already established stars. Real Madrid was a team of already made players. Which ever manager that will step in, they will experience the same problem. Barcelona have not enough depth and quality in their current squad. The club is drowning in debt, an average squad no Money to sign any player the new manger may want to sign,  I am not sure anyone would want that job at this moment in time. The best players are gone but the manager is still expected to win pretty much every game. Koeman should have left the aging players like Luiz Suarez, Ivan Rakitic and Vidal to blend with this young ones. It would have helped.
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October 28, 2021, 12:54:57 PM
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I dont think finding a coach is barcelona big problems many big names are not coaching currently so they can find a replacement for coeman the problem is that they lack players you can count on when in a difficult situation like messi and as weve seen depay is not that kind of players he missed a penalty in yesterday game that was critical for barcelona comeback in the game, plus coutinho who is not doing much in all the games he played, even with a new coach he need to get through to these players and improve barcelona play style.

I think that in the current situation where Barcelona has to comply with LaLiga's financial regulations, Barcelona only has a budget of €97.92 billion. Supposedly with a budget like that Barcelona will have no problem signing other coaches, but La Liga has a rule that if there is a unilateral sacking then the Club is only allowed to use 4% of the limit (only around €3.91 billion) to sign a new coach. With €3.91 billion in funds, Barcelona will not have many options in signing a new coach.

In my opinion, it was the financial crisis that Barcelona went through that caused Barcelona to slump now. Barcelona had to let Messi and Griezmann leave due to salary limit issues and they had difficulty signing other players due to budget constraints, and currently, they only have a few limits on signing new coaches.

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October 28, 2021, 01:00:58 PM
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I don't know who will replace Koeman especially because of financial problems at Barcelona but definitely new coach may give some impulse for the team. as you see other leading teams also lose points and today's game of Real Madrid also didn't look good.
Koeman's replacement is hard to find at the moment. Assuming money is not a problem for Barcelona, but where will they find an experienced coach now? The team is in such a bad situation now that it needs an experienced coach like Barcelona Guardiola or Klopp. Zidane is very experienced, but he is not interested in being the coach of Barcelona.
I dont think Zidane is a better manager to hire for this Barcelona considering the state of the team. Managing a group of young ambitious lads who are ready to fight for anything is different from managing an array of already established stars. Real Madrid was a team of already made players. Which ever manager that will step in, they will experience the same problem. Barcelona have not enough depth and quality in their current squad. The club is drowning in debt, an average squad no Money to sign any player the new manger may want to sign,  I am not sure anyone would want that job at this moment in time. The best players are gone but the manager is still expected to win pretty much every game. Koeman should have left the aging players like Luiz Suarez, Ivan Rakitic and Vidal to blend with this young ones. It would have helped.

No benefit in discussing Zidane. He was the coach of Real Madrid, he would not want to be the coach of Barcelona. At the same time, Barcelona fans do not want to see Zidane as the team's coach. The highest probability is to see a former Barcelona player as a coach. Because of the current state of the team, it is difficult to blend in easily with youngsters without former players. What do you think about Xavi? As far as the rumors I have heard, he is the most forward as the next coach of Barcelona. Will he be able to stabilize the team if he takes charge of the team at the moment?

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October 28, 2021, 01:05:42 PM
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I don't know who will replace Koeman especially because of financial problems at Barcelona but definitely new coach may give some impulse for the team. as you see other leading teams also lose points and today's game of Real Madrid also didn't look good.
Koeman's replacement is hard to find at the moment. Assuming money is not a problem for Barcelona, but where will they find an experienced coach now? The team is in such a bad situation now that it needs an experienced coach like Barcelona Guardiola or Klopp. Zidane is very experienced, but he is not interested in being the coach of Barcelona.
I dont think Zidane is a better manager to hire for this Barcelona considering the state of the team. Managing a group of young ambitious lads who are ready to fight for anything is different from managing an array of already established stars. Real Madrid was a team of already made players. Which ever manager that will step in, they will experience the same problem. Barcelona have not enough depth and quality in their current squad. The club is drowning in debt, an average squad no Money to sign any player the new manger may want to sign,  I am not sure anyone would want that job at this moment in time. The best players are gone but the manager is still expected to win pretty much every game. Koeman should have left the aging players like Luiz Suarez, Ivan Rakitic and Vidal to blend with this young ones. It would have helped.

I think they need someone who is good at building a team and is tactically good. For that Conte seems like a good option to me or Zidane but I don't think Zidane will come to Barcelona and you know, Conte seems like he's linked with United. As @nikola22 said, Pirlo or Gattuso could also be viable options. Let's see who the board brings in in replacement of Koeman.

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October 28, 2021, 01:08:34 PM
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In my opinion, it was the financial crisis that Barcelona went through that caused Barcelona to slump now. Barcelona had to let Messi and Griezmann leave due to salary limit issues and they had difficulty signing other players due to budget constraints, and currently, they only have a few limits on signing new coaches.

Barcelona finances are currently one of the problems that make Barcelona slump and Koeman's dismissal makes their finances even worse because they have to spend big money now.
So you mean Barcelona will have a hard time getting a coach this season after Koeman departure?
I think barcelona might have to make a bet by signing xavi as their coach, moreover xavi is one of the legends of barcelona of course he might be able to revive barcelona, ​​besides, maybe xavi will not burden Barcelona with a high salary Grin.

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