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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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October 19, 2021, 06:53:57 PM
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This El classico is somewhat balanced. Among Real Madrid and Barcelona, non will brag that they are in their fine form. Real Madrid is more favourable than Barcelona because; they have played some couple of El classico without Ronaldo and have seen what it looks like. But for over a decade, this is the first for Barcelona to play El classico without Messi.
This El Classico will be the first one without Messi and it can be a big El Classico to help Pedri, Gavi and Ansu Fati to shine and begin their legendary adventure.
Do you remember the first hattrick of Messi in El Classico when he was a teenager player? Ansu Fati can do the same if it is his day and it is Barcelona day.

El Classico will seem a lot different. It's like a new generation of El Classico. Messi and Ronaldo are no more with Madrid and Barca and this is the time for the young stars to shine. Players like Vinicius, Valverde, Gavi, Fati, Pedri will play a vital role for their respected teams and I'm curious to see who will win this one as both Real and Barca are a lot on their top form recently.
Yes, in recent years, El Clasico is the match we have been waiting for the most because in addition to the historical rivalry between Madrid and Barcelona, ​​the El Clasico also brought together two of the best players in the world at that time, but after Ronaldo left for Juventus, the intensity seemed El classico matches are starting to decrease a bit, and now is the first el classico match without these two players (messi and ronaldo), I doubt whether in the future el classico will still be as loud and fierce as it used to be, or maybe el classico will just be a spectacle of the same football match like any other football game.

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October 19, 2021, 09:31:22 PM
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In any case, Real Madrid also does not show results of a fantastic level in recent matches and a draw with Villarreal and the subsequent losses to Sheriff with Espanyol can hardly be called acceptable for a team of this level and with such ambitions. Therefore, despite the fact that I gave the advantage to Real Madrid, it cannot be said that Barcelona has absolutely no chance of achieving an acceptable result, what I would call a draw. However, the match between Real Madrid and Barcelona itself is a great sign and the players should give their best on the football field in full, regardless of the tournament situation and other external incoming factors happening with the clubs at a given time.
I believe that they are in a shock right now and I do not think that they are really playing at the level they should be playing because of some morale situation and they are going to get better for sure, I am sure that will eventually happen.

The problem is that we are talking about something that is basically just a few games and we should not be calculating the goodness of a team based on the few games that they have played recently. Same people are doing it for Barcelona as well and saying that they are suddenly a bad team like Barcelona is not some franchise that has all the power to recover anytime they want. These two teams will always be at the top and will stay at the top, maybe a few bad seasons doesn't change anything.
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October 19, 2021, 09:49:15 PM
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Real Madrid bossed sharktar Donetsk today 0---5 is such a good on for them to boost them confidence for the El classico coming up during the weekend.
Barcelona will be playing tommorow let's see how well they will perform to judge how well they would play at camp nou.









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October 19, 2021, 09:57:26 PM
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This El Classico will be the first one without Messi and it can be a big El Classico to help Pedri, Gavi and Ansu Fati to shine and begin their legendary adventure.
Do you remember the first hattrick of Messi in El Classico when he was a teenager player? Ansu Fati can do the same if it is his day and it is Barcelona day.
The first one without Messi?

You mean he has been playing in El Clásico matches since 1902?  Cheesy

Barcelona will just be fine, but It isn't going to be an easy one for them. With Red Hot Benzema and Vinicius Junior, there are going to be some goals in the match and I look forward to not missing it

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I believe that they are in a shock right now and I do not think that they are really playing at the level they should be playing because of some morale situation and they are going to get better for sure, I am sure that will eventually happen.
The problem is that we are talking about something that is basically just a few games and we should not be calculating the goodness of a team based on the few games that they have played recently. Same people are doing it for Barcelona as well and saying that they are suddenly a bad team like Barcelona is not some franchise that has all the power to recover anytime they want. These two teams will always be at the top and will stay at the top, maybe a few bad seasons doesn't change anything.
In principle, we can also talk about some shock of the players from the changes in the club that have occurred recently, but still the main reason for the team's not playing well is the selection of players. Messi was a system-forming player in the team and Koeman admitted it in an interview that the player closed all the problems at the club with his quality and efficiency. Let's also remember about Griezmann, who, despite not quite fulfilled expectations, could bring great benefits to the team and is already doing it at Atletico and the parting with whom also did not happen on Koeman's initiative. Barcelona's transfer policy before that took place in a certain rhythm, allowing the team to be gradually updated, but all these events that happened to the club broke it all.
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October 20, 2021, 02:43:20 AM
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This El Classico will be the first one without Messi and it can be a big El Classico to help Pedri, Gavi and Ansu Fati to shine and begin their legendary adventure.
Do you remember the first hattrick of Messi in El Classico when he was a teenager player? Ansu Fati can do the same if it is his day and it is Barcelona day.
The first one without Messi?

You mean he has been playing in El Clásico matches since 1902?  Cheesy

Barcelona will just be fine, but It isn't going to be an easy one for them. With Red Hot Benzema and Vinicius Junior, there are going to be some goals in the match and I look forward to not missing it
The El-clasico this time is not going to be as interesting as when Ronaldo was in Real Madrid,and Messi in Barcelona,it's just going to be a normal interesting game to watch,but that aggressiveness and fierceness is not going to be there.Barcelona is not really inform,so I doubt if they will be able to come out with a point.I give the winning to Real Madrid.
Nevertheless,the match is actually going to be very tough.
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October 20, 2021, 06:02:15 AM
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Yes, no one expected an easy game for Barcelona. And many gamblers avoided Barcelona this weekend. But, surprisingly they gave a very beautiful game and fantastic win.
The last time, I also recognised lack of quality as part of Barcelona's current problem. Now that some players like Aguero, Coutihno and others are available. They will surely make a difference. They can allow Memphis to lead the team in terms of the star man, it's not bad. He has been consistent especially this season in FCB.
I also avoided betting on Barcelona in this match but they won it well. when Gaya scored in the fifth minute I was very sure valencia would win but it all changed when Fati scored a goal for Barca.

I don't know if Barca will be consistent and can finish in the top 3 of the La Liga standings this season.

I think they won because of pressure from the Club, the truth is that the team needed that victory, because any team came and beat it, I know that Barcelona can have a very big crisis, but not everything is money, they were losing the classic sense of the soccer. A club cannot take its internal financial problems to its players, because the players will have a job without motivation, nobody likes to work hard to tell them that at any moment they can go abroad due to lack of money, I think that the club through their directors have had conversations with the players, and they are beginning to respond to their club. The truth is I still do not bet in favor of Barcelona, they have to start winning a lot to gain my confidence again, at least to bet.

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October 20, 2021, 07:21:50 AM
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Most likely, such a skew in the odds is due to the fact that Barcelona fans around the world are betting on it no matter what, and bookmakers are forced to take this into account. I will watch how Real and Barcelona play their matches in the Champions League and most likely I will bet that Real will not lose at least.
Bookmakers will observe the bet data and can try to play with gamblers. They control their bookmakers and odds they give to gamblers are in their control. I would like to bet for cards (yellow, red), corner kicks, foul numbers rather than bet what team will win this El Classico. It will help me two advantages: I can always enjoy the match because what team wins, it does not matter with me.  I don't bet for a winner. It is easier to bet with corner kicks, foul numbers.

There is no big difference what types of bets you make - in any case, bookmakers use statistics to evaluate any of these events more or less accurately and then give out the odds with a margin that works for them. But if you are not a fan of any particular team in this pair, then your approach is quite reasonable, since you can enjoy the game regardless of its outcome.

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October 20, 2021, 07:35:23 AM
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Most likely, such a skew in the odds is due to the fact that Barcelona fans around the world are betting on it no matter what, and bookmakers are forced to take this into account. I will watch how Real and Barcelona play their matches in the Champions League and most likely I will bet that Real will not lose at least.
Bookmakers will observe the bet data and can try to play with gamblers. They control their bookmakers and odds they give to gamblers are in their control. I would like to bet for cards (yellow, red), corner kicks, foul numbers rather than bet what team will win this El Classico. It will help me two advantages: I can always enjoy the match because what team wins, it does not matter with me.  I don't bet for a winner. It is easier to bet with corner kicks, foul numbers.

There is no big difference what types of bets you make - in any case, bookmakers use statistics to evaluate any of these events more or less accurately and then give out the odds with a margin that works for them. But if you are not a fan of any particular team in this pair, then your approach is quite reasonable, since you can enjoy the game regardless of its outcome.
Anyway I appreciate his style in betting with these options, because for me betting on these options is very difficult because it requires in-depth analysis. I've tried several times in betting options like that but the results are not so optimal, but at least I also never care who will win the match because I'm not a big fan. That way, for me it is easy to choose which team wins but unfortunately, betting against the majority is something hard because it can also be seen from the situation and condition of the team so far in their last matches. But for now about the El Clasico match, I'm just sure there will be a lot of goals in the match, considering these two teams are now not so strong to get clean sheets.

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October 20, 2021, 07:52:42 AM
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This El Classico will be the first one without Messi and it can be a big El Classico to help Pedri, Gavi and Ansu Fati to shine and begin their legendary adventure.
Do you remember the first hattrick of Messi in El Classico when he was a teenager player? Ansu Fati can do the same if it is his day and it is Barcelona day.
The first one without Messi?

You mean he has been playing in El Clásico matches since 1902?  Cheesy

Barcelona will just be fine, but It isn't going to be an easy one for them. With Red Hot Benzema and Vinicius Junior, there are going to be some goals in the match and I look forward to not missing it
So far, El Classico has been an emotional match between the two clubs who have a long history of rivalry in La Liga, but admit it or not, El Classico when both players (Messi and Ronaldo) are the mainstays of their respective teams, makes El Classico even hotter,Moreover, these two players are the best players in the world and besides their clubs have a high rivalry, the two players also often become rivals when competing for personal awards so far and that is what makes el classico a few years ago more interesting than el classico without both the player at this time.

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October 20, 2021, 08:47:28 AM
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There is no big difference what types of bets you make - in any case, bookmakers use statistics to evaluate any of these events more or less accurately and then give out the odds with a margin that works for them. But if you are not a fan of any particular team in this pair, then your approach is quite reasonable, since you can enjoy the game regardless of its outcome.
Anyway I appreciate his style in betting with these options, because for me betting on these options is very difficult because it requires in-depth analysis. I've tried several times in betting options like that but the results are not so optimal, but at least I also never care who will win the match because I'm not a big fan. That way, for me it is easy to choose which team wins but unfortunately, betting against the majority is something hard because it can also be seen from the situation and condition of the team so far in their last matches. But for now about the El Clasico match, I'm just sure there will be a lot of goals in the match, considering these two teams are now not so strong to get clean sheets.

These bets are difficult (to win against the bookmakers) as they are fairly well predictable (using simple statistical analysis) and the consensus around the average is always about the same. That is, there is no situation when bookmakers assume that 5 corners will be taken in the match, and most of the bettors think that 12. The situation with the results of the match is the opposite - due to the fact that the public believes in names (or is simply a fan of some club), it can make unreasonable bets and bookmakers (in order to secure their profits) must take this into account and, as a result, they give distorted odds. And just in such situations betters have a chance.

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October 20, 2021, 10:14:41 AM
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This El Classico will be the first one without Messi and it can be a big El Classico to help Pedri, Gavi and Ansu Fati to shine and begin their legendary adventure.
Do you remember the first hattrick of Messi in El Classico when he was a teenager player? Ansu Fati can do the same if it is his day and it is Barcelona day.
The first one without Messi?

You mean he has been playing in El Clásico matches since 1902?  Cheesy

Barcelona will just be fine, but It isn't going to be an easy one for them. With Red Hot Benzema and Vinicius Junior, there are going to be some goals in the match and I look forward to not missing it

Yeah keep on thinking that Barca will be fine. Grin They are still trying to digest loosing their main player after years of relaying 50% of their result on that single person. The only thing to their advantage is that many teams are effectively digesting the very low budgets that they were able to come up this year. I would expect a deplorable result, only matching the level of confusion across the whole La Liga.

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October 20, 2021, 10:48:44 AM
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The first one without Messi?

You mean he has been playing in El Clásico matches since 1902?  Cheesy
The first El Classico without Messi after 2 decades when he is not injured or suspended by card quota, I meant. My post does not emphasize it so I am sorry. Grin

Yeah keep on thinking that Barca will be fine. Grin They are still trying to digest loosing their main player after years of relaying 50% of their result on that single person. The only thing to their advantage is that many teams are effectively digesting the very low budgets that they were able to come up this year. I would expect a deplorable result, only matching the level of confusion across the whole La Liga.
They are playing with more young players and with lower salary burden. It is good for them and if they can complete this season in top 4 and go to quarter final of Champions League, it is good enough for this transition time.

The last season is a preparation and this one is a real transitional season for them. So far, their young players show that they can carry tasks on their shoulders. They show that they are talented and have good confidence to deal with pressure.

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October 20, 2021, 05:01:00 PM
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Yeah keep on thinking that Barca will be fine. Grin They are still trying to digest loosing their main player after years of relaying 50% of their result on that single person. The only thing to their advantage is that many teams are effectively digesting the very low budgets that they were able to come up this year. I would expect a deplorable result, only matching the level of confusion across the whole La Liga.
They are playing with more young players and with lower salary burden. It is good for them and if they can complete this season in top 4 and go to quarter final of Champions League, it is good enough for this transition time.
The last season is a preparation and this one is a real transitional season for them. So far, their young players show that they can carry tasks on their shoulders. They show that they are talented and have good confidence to deal with pressure.

I also think the next season will also be included in the transitional period. AS Laporta has already said that they have a huge amount of debt (1 billion euros) which means that they won't be able to buy quality players for the next season or two. As a result, they have to play the same team they have right now. But the good news is that Aguero is back and so is Ansu Fati and they have won their last match which is a good sign. All they need to do is somehow finish top 4 this season and go as far as they can in the CL.



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I really liked the Barcelona I watched last week against Valencia. To be honest, I wasn't expecting Barcelona to be able to win this game. And Valencia were the team to get ahead first in this game also. But still, Barcelona reacted very quickly to this goal and equalized the score. And Depay and Coutinho were there to help their team reach the victory finally by 3-1. This win must be an impetus for them to have a decent form from now on.

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October 20, 2021, 08:30:20 PM
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I really liked the Barcelona I watched last week against Valencia. To be honest, I wasn't expecting Barcelona to be able to win this game. And Valencia were the team to get ahead first in this game also. But still, Barcelona reacted very quickly to this goal and equalized the score. And Depay and Coutinho were there to help their team reach the victory finally by 3-1. This win must be an impetus for them to have a decent form from now on.
Valencia scored 5 minutes into the game, but Barcelona equalize the match 8 minutes later with a smart goal. And also won in both halves of the match. I think Barcelona is indeed improving their performance. They won against Dynamo today in the Champion League, which probably became their first winning match in the Champion League this season. Although, their performance haven't been stable lately. However, I hope to see them win against Real Madrid on Sunday.



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October 20, 2021, 08:42:42 PM
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We are getting closer to the El Clasico in four days. This one is going to be in Camp Nou. Considering their recent forms in the La Liga, they are not so different than each other. But Barcelona got a very critical win against Valencia though by 3-1 home. And today, they won against Dynamo Kyiv in their CL game. These are very positive for them to perform well against Real Madrid. And Real Madrid didn't play a game in the La Liga last week. But they defeated Shakhtar by a huge score in the CL. This is going to be a really interesting El Clasico. But my favourite team will be Real Madrid.

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October 20, 2021, 09:53:24 PM
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keep on thinking that Barca will be fine. Grin They are still trying to digest loosing their main player after years of relaying 50% of their result on that single person. The only thing to their advantage is that many teams are effectively digesting the very low budgets that they were able to come up this year. I would expect a deplorable result, only matching the level of confusion across the whole La Liga.
There were no matches where messi was injured or something during the period he played? I mean sure there could be less bookings because I do not remember Messi as a player who got too many cards, but we also did not see any injuries or something? This is not even about all the games since 1902, it is literally during his playing time, he must have missed at least once right? In any case, we are in a situation where neither Barcelona nor Real Madrid is doing good if you ask me. They are not as good as they used to be at least and that means a lot, this game will be bad, but it will not be bad for just one team which will make the game fine.

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October 21, 2021, 12:35:42 AM
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We are getting closer to the El Clasico in four days. This one is going to be in Camp Nou. Considering their recent forms in the La Liga, they are not so different than each other. But Barcelona got a very critical win against Valencia though by 3-1 home. And today, they won against Dynamo Kyiv in their CL game. These are very positive for them to perform well against Real Madrid. And Real Madrid didn't play a game in the La Liga last week. But they defeated Shakhtar by a huge score in the CL. This is going to be a really interesting El Clasico. But my favourite team will be Real Madrid.

Usually the home team will  more advantage and become the favourite at least this position becomes a point regardless of the last performance of the two teams
Win percentage in my opinion is 55:45 unless there is an unexpected thing such as a red card this might change the situation

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October 21, 2021, 01:53:46 AM
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We are getting closer to the El Clasico in four days. This one is going to be in Camp Nou. Considering their recent forms in the La Liga, they are not so different than each other. But Barcelona got a very critical win against Valencia though by 3-1 home. And today, they won against Dynamo Kyiv in their CL game. These are very positive for them to perform well against Real Madrid. And Real Madrid didn't play a game in the La Liga last week. But they defeated Shakhtar by a huge score in the CL. This is going to be a really interesting El Clasico. But my favourite team will be Real Madrid.

Usually the home team will  more advantage and become the favourite at least this position becomes a point regardless of the last performance of the two teams
Win percentage in my opinion is 55:45 unless there is an unexpected thing such as a red card this might change the situation
Does home advantage really matter in a match like El-clasico? Every Ref.that is going officiate that match knows very well that the El-clasico game is not a game you bring in home advantage,because it is a do or die game. Barcelona is not really inform,although they are begining to gain momentum now,let's see how that match will look like.But I don't think there is going to be a win,if a win should be in that match,then Real Madrid are the favourite to get it.
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