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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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Real Madrid - 76 (66.1%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
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October 16, 2021, 10:37:55 AM
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It's a shame that this week we couldn't watch Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because the Real Madrid Versus Atletico Bilbao match was officially postponed, this match was postponed due to the impact of the CONMEBOL 2022 World Cup Qualification zone. Both Real Madrid and Atletico Bilbao were unable to field the first squad because most of the players were still playing for their country and had not yet returned to the club. The qualifying schedule which is very close to the La Liga schedule makes this match forced to be postponed and Madrid can focus on matches in the champions league.
There is no shame here. Worldcup qualifiers should come first before any club game.  Most of the players has to represent in their various country side. The world cup is just around the corner just barely few months to kick-off so the world cup qualifiers should postpone all club games so they each country will be ready ahead of time
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October 16, 2021, 10:55:16 AM
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It's a shame that this week we couldn't watch Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because the Real Madrid Versus Atletico Bilbao match was officially postponed, this match was postponed due to the impact of the CONMEBOL 2022 World Cup Qualification zone. Both Real Madrid and Atletico Bilbao were unable to field the first squad because most of the players were still playing for their country and had not yet returned to the club. The qualifying schedule which is very close to the La Liga schedule makes this match forced to be postponed and Madrid can focus on matches in the champions league.

It's not the fault of any one they have to postpone it. Things needs to be done one after the other so they have to reschedule the match so their will better planning which will be in favour of everyone.
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October 16, 2021, 01:23:53 PM
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Barcelona is like being stuck with a Koeman. He's probably not a bad coach, but what he did at Barcelona did not live up to expectations and Barcelona has no other choice but to keep Koeman (at least until his contract ends). So Barcelona can only hope for the rest of the season that a Koeman can make a surprise (although we all know it is a very difficult mission for Koeman).
It is unlikely that Barcelona will be able to win the title this season if there are no changes to this team. Maybe Koeman won't be sacked anytime soon and he will be retained, but I can still hope for something different when some injured players return to the first team. Although I was never sure about them this season, but at least that little hope remain.

What's Your Prediction? Can Levante Win Easily? Or Getafe Will Win This Match?
I think Levante will win that game even though these two team are not in good form. Getafe and Levante are in the relegation zone and may still be trying to get out of the zone, so it will be difficult to guess who will win. The upside is that this match is being held at Levante's house, so they can probably win.

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October 16, 2021, 02:04:52 PM
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Rayo Vallecano will play against Elche today. Rayo Vallecano is in such a form now, it is not a difficult task for them to resist Elche. Moreover, Rayo Vallecano was defeated in the previous match. So this match is very important for them. If Vallecano's team can win this match, they will move to fourth place in the points table. Today I am betting on the victory of Rayo Vallecano. My guess is Rayo will win the match 1-0.

The history of the match between Rayo Vallecano vs Elche is very unpredictable, both teams give resistance even though Rayo Vallecano is superior. Moreover, in Rayo Vallecano current squad we have Alvaro Garcia and Radamel Falcao, Each of them has scored 3 goals at Rayo Vallecano, maybe victory will be very easy for them to achieve.

If Rayo Vallecano wins against Elche, they will not absolutely occupy the fourth position in the standings, because there are still matches from Sevilla and Osasuna, their position is above Rayo Vallecano.


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October 16, 2021, 02:15:32 PM
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It's a shame that this week we couldn't watch Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because the Real Madrid Versus Atletico Bilbao match was officially postponed, this match was postponed due to the impact of the CONMEBOL 2022 World Cup Qualification zone. Both Real Madrid and Atletico Bilbao were unable to field the first squad because most of the players were still playing for their country and had not yet returned to the club. The qualifying schedule which is very close to the La Liga schedule makes this match forced to be postponed and Madrid can focus on matches in the champions league.

Not only the madrid and bilbao matches were postponed but the match between Granada versus Atletico Madrid also experienced the same thing. With the postponement of the match, of course, this gives Madrid more time to prepare their squad for the match against Shaktar Donesk later in the Champions League, but the postponement of the match has received many protests from several clubs, arguing that the distance between the two matches in the league is quite far with the match schedule for the last day of the Conmebol World Cup qualifying zone.

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October 16, 2021, 03:57:11 PM
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Rayo Vallecano v Elche might be one of the nice games tomorrow. Maybe Elche are really bad in this season like they were in the past seasons too. But the thing that makes this game nice is Rayo Vallecano's form in the recent times. After a three-game winning streak, they lost to Osasuna away. But they must still be very eager to win this game as they are doing good in general. But interestingly, Rayo Vallecano couldn't defeat Elche in their last three home games in the league also. However, this can still be a big opportunity for them to break a leg too. I expect Vallecano to win.
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October 16, 2021, 05:36:37 PM
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Barcelona's first mistake was letting Messi go even though there were still options at that time to keep him.
The second mistake is to entrust Koeman as a coach with methods and tactics that are not compatible with Barcelona.
I am pretty sure that they have no choice at that time, the only solution was to let him leave the club. If they can keep Messi, they must do it because Messi is like the soul of the Barcelona team. Sadly, Barcelona management found has no way to keep him on the club. Moreover, Barcelona has a very big problem in the financial sector, they cannot agree with Messi's salary.

Regarding Koeman, this man actually was almost fired by Barcelona management. But they seem to give him one last chance. If he cannot win any single trophy for Barcelona this season, I assume he will be fired by Barcelona management at the end of this season. Let's see what Koeman can do in this season, there are still a few months remainings.

Actually, at the beginning, they were still struggling, there were some people who thought that they had to release Griezman, Dembele and several other players so that Messi wouldn't just be released. but there are some considerations that may indeed be unavoidable and their fault is that they even add new players even though in this case there are some that are free but of course their salary is not.

and for Koeman as long as he still talks a lot about theory but the results on the pitch are different, I'm very sure that Barcelona will not be able to get a single title this season.
unless there is a significant change in the leadership of the coach and the way the team plays I think maybe it is still possible even though it is very difficult.

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October 16, 2021, 05:59:50 PM
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Real Sociedas - Mallorca.
Real Sociedas have won their last 3 matches against Mallorca at home. Mallorca has yet to hit Real Sociedas in the last 5 matches. Taking into account the poor form of Mallorca, we can assume a landslide victory for Real Sociedas.
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October 16, 2021, 06:01:36 PM
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As for your calculation, it contains an inaccuracy - firstly, in your example, the sum of coefficients without margin is not 100%, and secondly, the bookmaker's margin does not increase, but decreases the odds. If you make an accurate calculation, then the probability never exceeds 100%, with or without margin.
Maybe you're right [But what am I missing?]

At least I really made a mistake with + -. After all, 1.5 + 3.5 + 5 is the sum of the coefficients that we take as an integer or 100%, so I hope you won't find it difficult to provide an illustrative example in numbers. As for the mood of the crowd, I know one thing ... bookmakers always win because stats and soft work for him, so without looking at the coefficients, our attempts to predict pre-match moods are unlikely to be crowned with success.  Lips sealed

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October 16, 2021, 06:02:35 PM
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The match between Levante and Getafe, 75 minutes is over, but neither team are able to score. The two teams are very weak and both teams are in the relegation zone. Getafe is the last team in the points table and Levante is the 18th team. However, I guess this match will be a 1-1 draw. But neither team could score a goal. Very poor performance of both teams.

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October 16, 2021, 06:13:35 PM
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It's a shame that this week we couldn't watch Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because the Real Madrid Versus Atletico Bilbao match was officially postponed, this match was postponed due to the impact of the CONMEBOL 2022 World Cup Qualification zone. Both Real Madrid and Atletico Bilbao were unable to field the first squad because most of the players were still playing for their country and had not yet returned to the club. The qualifying schedule which is very close to the La Liga schedule makes this match forced to be postponed and Madrid can focus on matches in the champions league.
this is certainly a good decision for all parties, the advantage of the players is that they can compete for their country and that is the dream of footballers as a form of their service to the country.
The advantage for the club is that they can manage their squad to look better, of course every club wants to play with the perfect squad.
and this advantage for fans and football lovers is a good thing because if this game is forced we can't see the main stars playing because there will definitely be a lot of rotation and second-tier players playing

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As for your calculation, it contains an inaccuracy - firstly, in your example, the sum of coefficients without margin is not 100%, and secondly, the bookmaker's margin does not increase, but decreases the odds. If you make an accurate calculation, then the probability never exceeds 100%, with or without margin.
Maybe you're right [But what am I missing?]

At least I really made a mistake with + -. After all, 1.5 + 3.5 + 5 is the sum of the coefficients that we take as an integer or 100%, so I hope you won't find it difficult to provide an illustrative example in numbers. As for the mood of the crowd, I know one thing ... bookmakers always win because stats and soft work for him, so without looking at the coefficients, our attempts to predict pre-match moods are unlikely to be crowned with success.  Lips sealed

The numbers 1.5 + 3.5 + 5 in total do not reflect 100% of the odds, these numbers already contain the margin (and huge) of the bookmaker. First, let's find this margin:
1/1.5 + 1/3.5 + 1/5 ~= 0.66 + 0.28 + 0.2 ~= 1.14 so 14% margin for bookmaker
Fair odds would be like this:
1.94 + 3.5 + 5
How are these numbers different from the previous ones? So that you can place bets on all outcomes and are guaranteed to get your money back on any outcome. Your range of numbers cannot provide this as it is "unfair" and includes the bookmaker's margin.
Here is an example of such a bet:
100 on x1, 55 on x2, 38 on x3
No matter how the match ends, you get your money back (there are slight differences from zero, since I rounded up to the second decimal place).
These are honest numbers where neither the player nor the bookmaker has an advantage. Now, if we are a bookmaker, we lower any number from this row 1.94 + 3.5 + 5 (or three or two at once) and set the margin that suits us.

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October 16, 2021, 07:25:53 PM
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It's a shame that this week we couldn't watch Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because the Real Madrid Versus Atletico Bilbao match was officially postponed, this match was postponed due to the impact of the CONMEBOL 2022 World Cup Qualification zone. Both Real Madrid and Atletico Bilbao were unable to field the first squad because most of the players were still playing for their country and had not yet returned to the club. The qualifying schedule which is very close to the La Liga schedule makes this match forced to be postponed and Madrid can focus on matches in the champions league.
The fixtures are indeed messed up with covid shit around.
Wonder whether it could be an advantages or just yet another tight schedule ahead to become a disaster. an advantage because they have more time to rest but lack of competitive matches as they would face shaktar this saturday in champions league and el classico following next week.

by the way real sociedad are currently playing against mallorca , so far so good ... they take an advantage from terrible form of barcelona and real madrid , leading the la liga with 1 point ahead from real madrid and atletico at the second and third place. the match could ended with a win for real sociedad but i am more to a draw, my guts telling that.

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October 16, 2021, 08:09:43 PM
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Real Sociedas - Mallorca.
Real Sociedas have won their last 3 matches against Mallorca at home. Mallorca has yet to hit Real Sociedas in the last 5 matches. Taking into account the poor form of Mallorca, we can assume a landslide victory for Real Sociedas.
Today Real Sociedad vs Mallorca was very good chance for home team to have their full 3 points and staying at top rank in League for one or more weeks but after end of first half they have very poor result now reduced to 10 men with Munoz is out with Red Card. Even First half was completely dominant by Real Sociedad, but now this is tricky situation for them playing with 10 men against 11 men is not easy even they are very strong.

But, they have to be very good for their full points because now next week they have very tight match against Atletico Madrid which is also seeking for top rank after this win.

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Good someone else understands how entirely unbalanced it is in La Liga in fact, although most people point at EPL as the one with the most unbalanced. Yes it's true City won it most for the past many years there but that is recent and everyone else catches up soon whereas in La Liga it's really just a few.

I think in EPL also, as you say, bottom teams still earn a lot. The Championship playoff is worth $100million or something like this just because of EPL TV rights.
I do believe that the unbalancing issue is from the distribution of the money as well. La Liga winners and runners ups get a ton of money and suddenly by the third team you are getting a lot less money and the problem is that real madrid and Barcelona is a worldwide team whereas other teams are not doing marketing to whole world. I do not know many people in the world who are fan of villareal, getafe, bilbao or whatever because it just doesn't make sense at all for them to do something like that. I believe that there is a good chance that we are looking at a finance issue and nothing else.

EPL still is unbalanced but that is based on the owners and there are too many owners that are billionaires and that is why we are in a situation where City is better because they have a lot of players that the owner could afford to buy. They are worried about newcastle to turn to the same thing as well. Both unbalanced but the reasons are different.
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October 16, 2021, 09:24:08 PM
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What a win by Real Sociedad they were a man down the entire match against Mallorca and they won in the 90th minute what a team!!!
They are currently first in the La Liga and have 3 points more then the second place team. In europe league they didnt start well but in laliga they are dominating

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October 16, 2021, 09:55:43 PM
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Today Real Sociedad vs Mallorca was very good chance for home team to have their full 3 points and staying at top rank in League for one or more weeks but after end of first half they have very poor result now reduced to 10 men with Munoz is out with Red Card. Even First half was completely dominant by Real Sociedad, but now this is tricky situation for them playing with 10 men against 11 men is not easy even they are very strong.

But, they have to be very good for their full points because now next week they have very tight match against Atletico Madrid which is also seeking for top rank after this win.
In injury time a beautiful goal from Lobete give Real Sociedad win and full three points now they are going to stay at top for few more days. Now they have next match against Atlético Madrid who is also strong contender for this spot, and they will take this next week after win from Real Sociedad and Real Madrid is going to play classico derby against Barcelona which is also very interesting as currently Barcelona struggling and Real Madrid is also facing some issues but still in good shape.

Tomorrow we have few interesting matches between Vilareal vs Osasuna and Celta Vigo vs Sevilla. 

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October 16, 2021, 09:57:09 PM
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It's a shame that this week we couldn't watch Real Madrid's performance in La Liga because the Real Madrid Versus Atletico Bilbao match was officially postponed, this match was postponed due to the impact of the CONMEBOL 2022 World Cup Qualification zone. Both Real Madrid and Atletico Bilbao were unable to field the first squad because most of the players were still playing for their country and had not yet returned to the club. The qualifying schedule which is very close to the La Liga schedule makes this match forced to be postponed and Madrid can focus on matches in the champions league.

It's not the fault of any one they have to postpone it. Things needs to be done one after the other so they have to reschedule the match so their will better planning which will be in favour of everyone.

They are right and despite the fact that that match was postponed if they come to see it was worth it, the qualifying rounds for the Qatar20225 qualifiers were very exciting, especially that of Argentina vs Uruguay, unfortunately as Messi no longer belongs to the Spanish League, he continues to give a show On the part of the Uruguayans if it comes out that even though they lost, it was a game where the superiority and genius that Messi possesses is a common demoninator anywhere in the world and is recognized.

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Barcelona's first mistake was letting Messi go even though there were still options at that time to keep him.
The second mistake is to entrust Koeman as a coach with methods and tactics that are not compatible with Barcelona.
I am pretty sure that they have no choice at that time, the only solution was to let him leave the club. If they can keep Messi, they must do it because Messi is like the soul of the Barcelona team. Sadly, Barcelona management found has no way to keep him on the club. Moreover, Barcelona has a very big problem in the financial sector, they cannot agree with Messi's salary.
Regarding Koeman, this man actually was almost fired by Barcelona management. But they seem to give him one last chance. If he cannot win any single trophy for Barcelona this season, I assume he will be fired by Barcelona management at the end of this season. Let's see what Koeman can do in this season, there are still a few months remainings.
Actually, at the beginning, they were still struggling, there were some people who thought that they had to release Griezman, Dembele and several other players so that Messi wouldn't just be released. but there are some considerations that may indeed be unavoidable and their fault is that they even add new players even though in this case there are some that are free but of course their salary is not.
and for Koeman as long as he still talks a lot about theory but the results on the pitch are different, I'm very sure that Barcelona will not be able to get a single title this season.
unless there is a significant change in the leadership of the coach and the way the team plays I think maybe it is still possible even though it is very difficult.
Unfortunately, Barcelona in its current state does not look like a team that should definitely win some trophy this season. The issues of inviting Koeman and leaving Messi in the team were actually interrelated. Koeman was just invited to the team by the previous management in order to make a generational change in the team by getting rid of a number of players, but still continuing to keep Messi in the squad and continuing to build the game around him, using his best qualities. Another question is how all this was done and to what results everything eventually came. In Koeman's defense, I would like to say that the disposition has changed completely, the club has financial problems, and Messi is trying to win titles in another country and with another team.
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October 17, 2021, 02:21:58 AM
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It amazing how Real Sociedad was able to win against Mallorca despite getting a red card. Munoz was given a yellow card 14 minutes into the match, and unfortunately got a yellow and red cards towards the end of the first half. But Lobete scored in the 90 minutes which earned Real Sociedad 3 points. This is however Lobete's second goal this season. While Sociedad is currently leading the La Liga table with 20 points

The match between Levante and Getafe, 75 minutes is over, but neither team are able to score. The two teams are very weak and both teams are in the relegation zone. Getafe is the last team in the points table and Levante is the 18th team. However, I guess this match will be a 1-1 draw. But neither team could score a goal. Very poor performance of both teams.
Getafe is presently in their worst form, they haven't won any match this season, and have lost 7 matches. They are at the bottom of the standings. I was even expecting Levante to beat them, but is obvious Levante is also another weak club, who finds it difficult to win matches.



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