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July 17, 2014, 07:46:59 AM
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Guys, something weird.

I was just checking my Qora wallet, haven't done anything with it since May.

I downloaded the latest wallet, V12, used the Seed, let the blockchain download and saw my transaction of 713569 Qora. Then it disappeared and all I see is an outgoing transaction of the same amount on May 30, +1 Qora to QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W. Is this an exchange address?

So now I have zero Qora left and no idea where they went and how...
Either I suffer from acute amnesia or something fishy is going on  Undecided

EDIT:
Oh shit, I bought the Qora at Sharexcoin and immediately moved them to my wallet and then 2 days later they are moved to ShareXcoin again?! WTF  Huh
That's something I didn't do...

No, ShareXCoin account is QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK, someone must have stolen the money. Do you have any idea how could someone get the seed?
I received the Qora from the same address that they are sent back to...

How someone got my seed (if they even did)? Nothing is impossible, but I think it's borderline impossible.
The seed is stored in my encrypted keypass on my Mac, Qora wallet resides on a VM which is used strictly for crypto, no downloads, no other applications.
Every now en then I restore the VM to make sure nothing gets installed.

It would be very weird also, because I have other crypto's which are worth way more. This just seems lame.


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July 17, 2014, 07:54:12 AM
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Guys, something weird.

I was just checking my Qora wallet, haven't done anything with it since May.

I downloaded the latest wallet, V12, used the Seed, let the blockchain download and saw my transaction of 713569 Qora. Then it disappeared and all I see is an outgoing transaction of the same amount on May 30, +1 Qora to QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W. Is this an exchange address?

So now I have zero Qora left and no idea where they went and how...
Either I suffer from acute amnesia or something fishy is going on  Undecided

EDIT:
Oh shit, I bought the Qora at Sharexcoin and immediately moved them to my wallet and then 2 days later they are moved to ShareXcoin again?! WTF  Huh
That's something I didn't do...

No, ShareXCoin account is QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK, someone must have stolen the money. Do you have any idea how could someone get the seed?
I received the Qora from the same address that they are sent back to...

How someone got my seed (if they even did)? Nothing is impossible, but I think it's borderline impossible.
The seed is stored in my encrypted keypass on my Mac, Qora wallet resides on a VM which is used strictly for crypto, no downloads, no other applications.
Every now en then I restore the VM to make sure nothing gets installed.

It would be very weird also, because I have other crypto's which are worth way more. This just seems lame.



Maybe you do suffer from acute amnesia? ) Sounds really weird.

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July 17, 2014, 08:10:59 AM
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When's the next vote, we need AE ASAP!
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July 17, 2014, 08:34:09 AM
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When's the next vote, we need AE ASAP!
soon, Qora is probably working on some update before implementing next feature
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July 17, 2014, 08:57:50 AM
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Guys, something weird.

I was just checking my Qora wallet, haven't done anything with it since May.

I downloaded the latest wallet, V12, used the Seed, let the blockchain download and saw my transaction of 713569 Qora. Then it disappeared and all I see is an outgoing transaction of the same amount on May 30, +1 Qora to QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W. Is this an exchange address?

So now I have zero Qora left and no idea where they went and how...
Either I suffer from acute amnesia or something fishy is going on  Undecided

EDIT:
Oh shit, I bought the Qora at Sharexcoin and immediately moved them to my wallet and then 2 days later they are moved to ShareXcoin again?! WTF  Huh
That's something I didn't do...

No, ShareXCoin account is QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK, someone must have stolen the money. Do you have any idea how could someone get the seed?
I received the Qora from the same address that they are sent back to...

How someone got my seed (if they even did)? Nothing is impossible, but I think it's borderline impossible.
The seed is stored in my encrypted keypass on my Mac, Qora wallet resides on a VM which is used strictly for crypto, no downloads, no other applications.
Every now en then I restore the VM to make sure nothing gets installed.

It would be very weird also, because I have other crypto's which are worth way more. This just seems lame.



Can you send me a screen shot?





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July 17, 2014, 09:19:43 AM
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Guys, something weird.

I was just checking my Qora wallet, haven't done anything with it since May.

I downloaded the latest wallet, V12, used the Seed, let the blockchain download and saw my transaction of 713569 Qora. Then it disappeared and all I see is an outgoing transaction of the same amount on May 30, +1 Qora to QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W. Is this an exchange address?

So now I have zero Qora left and no idea where they went and how...
Either I suffer from acute amnesia or something fishy is going on  Undecided

EDIT:
Oh shit, I bought the Qora at Sharexcoin and immediately moved them to my wallet and then 2 days later they are moved to ShareXcoin again?! WTF  Huh
That's something I didn't do...

No, ShareXCoin account is QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK, someone must have stolen the money. Do you have any idea how could someone get the seed?
I received the Qora from the same address that they are sent back to...

How someone got my seed (if they even did)? Nothing is impossible, but I think it's borderline impossible.
The seed is stored in my encrypted keypass on my Mac, Qora wallet resides on a VM which is used strictly for crypto, no downloads, no other applications.
Every now en then I restore the VM to make sure nothing gets installed.

It would be very weird also, because I have other crypto's which are worth way more. This just seems lame.



Can you send me a screen shot?


Sorry forgot to include the transaction screenshot. The transaction was sent to: QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W, which currently owns 713569 Qora (if block explorer is correct). Is that an exchange address?

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Sorry forgot to include the transaction screenshot. The transaction was sent to: QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W, which currently owns 713569 Qora (if block explorer is correct). Is that an exchange address?

Do you recall whether this is your ShareXcoin QORA Deposit Address or not?   Undecided

I also have a deposit to ShareXcoin that is just sitting there in the deposit address...  I guess ziplibrary just pulled the plug before moving the QORA to the holding address.
Well I am 99,99% certain that I didn't sent it back to ShareX, because I don't trust new exchanges...
But it seems as if that's the only possibility  Undecided

It becomes even weirder, because a few days later on June 5 when ShareX became a scam I said this on the nxtforum:
"mikesbmw: [Edit]
I got out in time. I bought some Qora there and being a new exchange, I do what I always do and immediately transfer it to my wallet. It's not much, but still 0.5 BTC worth of Qora.

Phew!"

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July 17, 2014, 11:33:53 AM
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I do have a Poloniex account, but never traded Qora there, I just checked.

Well, whatever it is, the Qora is gone unfortunately... Fortunately, for me, the price is still very low (lower than my initial buy). I will buy some new than.

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July 17, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
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Coinomat.com has just launched NXT market. People now can sell Nxt directly for fiat and get money on debit cards. I spoke with Coinomat.com about Qora, they said they need it having large trading volume so they can hedge risks. We agreed that I'll get back to them when we have higher trading volume.

Wow interesting
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July 17, 2014, 05:27:51 PM
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Sorry forgot to include the transaction screenshot. The transaction was sent to: QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W, which currently owns 713569 Qora (if block explorer is correct). Is that an exchange address?

Do you recall whether this is your ShareXcoin QORA Deposit Address or not?   Undecided

I also have a deposit to ShareXcoin that is just sitting there in the deposit address...  I guess ziplibrary just pulled the plug before moving the QORA to the holding address.
Well I am 99,99% certain that I didn't sent it back to ShareX, because I don't trust new exchanges...
But it seems as if that's the only possibility  Undecided

It becomes even weirder, because a few days later on June 5 when ShareX became a scam I said this on the nxtforum:
"mikesbmw: [Edit]
I got out in time. I bought some Qora there and being a new exchange, I do what I always do and immediately transfer it to my wallet. It's not much, but still 0.5 BTC worth of Qora.

Phew!"


That was right about the time the fork happened. I assume you and ShareX were on the fork. So, that transaction got invalidated on the correct longer chain, so ShareXCoin scammer has that Qora. At least, that is the most plausible explanation. I doubt you sent that much Qora somewhere and didn't remember it.
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July 17, 2014, 05:47:16 PM
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Sorry forgot to include the transaction screenshot. The transaction was sent to: QPjHuM78wVQamAZh7gP55xXjBiRceqcR6W, which currently owns 713569 Qora (if block explorer is correct). Is that an exchange address?

Do you recall whether this is your ShareXcoin QORA Deposit Address or not?   Undecided

I also have a deposit to ShareXcoin that is just sitting there in the deposit address...  I guess ziplibrary just pulled the plug before moving the QORA to the holding address.
Well I am 99,99% certain that I didn't sent it back to ShareX, because I don't trust new exchanges...
But it seems as if that's the only possibility  Undecided

It becomes even weirder, because a few days later on June 5 when ShareX became a scam I said this on the nxtforum:
"mikesbmw: [Edit]
I got out in time. I bought some Qora there and being a new exchange, I do what I always do and immediately transfer it to my wallet. It's not much, but still 0.5 BTC worth of Qora.

Phew!"


That was right about the time the fork happened. I assume you and ShareX were on the fork. So, that transaction got invalidated on the correct longer chain, so ShareXCoin scammer has that Qora. At least, that is the most plausible explanation. I doubt you sent that much Qora somewhere and didn't remember it.


Yes, this happend to quite some people. Nothing you can do about that except tracking down zip and recover funds Sad

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July 17, 2014, 06:35:16 PM
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The challenge NXT'ers always give to Qora is what function is innovative in Qora.

I want to better know what was so innovative about NXT functions?


Anyone with real knowledge want to tell us. Cause I'm hearing things from other threads that actually most of NXT's functions was done previously by other coins. The only real original function being transparent forging.


If the only innovation is the fact its a new code and framework then in theory Qora is as innovative as NXT ever was. Right?


Anyone got the educated facts?
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July 17, 2014, 06:41:40 PM
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That was right about the time the fork happened. I assume you and ShareX were on the fork. So, that transaction got invalidated on the correct longer chain, so ShareXCoin scammer has that Qora. At least, that is the most plausible explanation. I doubt you sent that much Qora somewhere and didn't remember it.

Actually...  if this was due to the fork incident...  the QORA along with the incoming transaction would have disappeared from the Block Explorer...  obviously this is an outgoing transaction that was processed two days later.

http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php?q=QbzuVXdWx5LyD7xvMuF5GQBgBK9hSChLE9



good point. I didn't realize there was a spend transaction in the block chain. Back to reading school. Brb.  Grin
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Version 13 is now available.

https://mega.co.nz/#!ulQ2gQAA!eetpgVyuXCMZx5c8teBlr601Mc3aZhxf2-E7VosB9bc
MD5: 606C8D084DB1AC07801027B226E32456
SHA-1: 9801B0D74640CAC516C113630110A3ED6CD94F00

If would like to run Qora without the command line window you can use the Qora.exe file.
Place this file in the V13 Qora folder and run it instead of the run.bat. (windows only)
https://mega.co.nz/#!ntYDQZqR!w5UNylUD16ipErJwZTd3M5r-X_47-fY9r_vRlE-56DI
MD5: F5668509DCD41EF38EFF0E5F63D9BE9D
SHA-1: 1C7AFFD351BDA12A55463450B428D1CF289C88CC

Please download the applications from the original post and not from a quote.

  • The settings.ini has been converted into settings.json.
  • By putting the setting "generatorkeycaching" to "true" you can keep generating blocks after you lock your wallet as long as you have unlocked your wallet once since startup.
  • Added a new API command "POST transactions/scan".
  • Added a new setting "maxbyteperfee" this will make the client ignore transactions that have a higher byteperfee. By default this value is 512. This will help the network and nodes to protect themselves during an attack.

The new API documentation can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uBN8JXYNAWb8NUxon7MKx2MSJs4HHekIgolIXGTwR4c/edit?usp=sharing

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July 17, 2014, 08:51:19 PM
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By putting the setting "generatorkeycaching" to "true" you can keep generating blocks after you lock your wallet as long as you have unlocked you wallet once since startup.

We can now forge and do not afraid for our coins, folks. Just unlock your wallet and lock it again. It will continue generating blocks.

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July 17, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
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Version 13 is now available.

https://mega.co.nz/#!ulQ2gQAA!eetpgVyuXCMZx5c8teBlr601Mc3aZhxf2-E7VosB9bc
MD5: 606C8D084DB1AC07801027B226E32456
SHA-1: 9801B0D74640CAC516C113630110A3ED6CD94F00

If would like to run Qora without the command line window you can use the Qora.exe file.
Place this file in the V13 Qora folder and run it instead of the run.bat. (windows only)
https://mega.co.nz/#!ntYDQZqR!w5UNylUD16ipErJwZTd3M5r-X_47-fY9r_vRlE-56DI
MD5: F5668509DCD41EF38EFF0E5F63D9BE9D
SHA-1: 1C7AFFD351BDA12A55463450B428D1CF289C88CC

Please download the applications from the original post and not from a quote.

  • The settings.ini has been converted into settings.json.
  • By putting the setting "generatorkeycaching" to "true" you can keep generating blocks after you lock your wallet as long as you have unlocked you wallet once since startup.
  • Added a new API command "POST transactions/scan".
  • Added a new setting "maxbyteperfee" this will make the client ignore transactions that have a higher byteperfee. By default this value is 512. This will help the network and nodes to protect themselves during an attack.

The new API documentation can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uBN8JXYNAWb8NUxon7MKx2MSJs4HHekIgolIXGTwR4c/edit?usp=sharing


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July 17, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
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Omfg !!!!@ Thx Qora!!!!





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July 17, 2014, 08:53:49 PM
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By putting the setting "generatorkeycaching" to "true" you can keep generating blocks after you lock your wallet as long as you have unlocked you wallet once since startup.

We can now forge and do not afraid for our coins, folks. Just unlock your wallet and lock it again. It will continue generating blocks.


Woot I'm going to start staking with my full balance now.





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July 17, 2014, 09:32:03 PM
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Version 13 is now available.

https://mega.co.nz/#!ulQ2gQAA!eetpgVyuXCMZx5c8teBlr601Mc3aZhxf2-E7VosB9bc
MD5: 606C8D084DB1AC07801027B226E32456
SHA-1: 9801B0D74640CAC516C113630110A3ED6CD94F00

If would like to run Qora without the command line window you can use the Qora.exe file.
Place this file in the V13 Qora folder and run it instead of the run.bat. (windows only)
https://mega.co.nz/#!ntYDQZqR!w5UNylUD16ipErJwZTd3M5r-X_47-fY9r_vRlE-56DI
MD5: F5668509DCD41EF38EFF0E5F63D9BE9D
SHA-1: 1C7AFFD351BDA12A55463450B428D1CF289C88CC

Please download the applications from the original post and not from a quote.

  • The settings.ini has been converted into settings.json.
  • By putting the setting "generatorkeycaching" to "true" you can keep generating blocks after you lock your wallet as long as you have unlocked your wallet once since startup.
  • Added a new API command "POST transactions/scan".
  • Added a new setting "maxbyteperfee" this will make the client ignore transactions that have a higher byteperfee. By default this value is 512. This will help the network and nodes to protect themselves during an attack.

The new API documentation can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uBN8JXYNAWb8NUxon7MKx2MSJs4HHekIgolIXGTwR4c/edit?usp=sharing


Excellent work. I have a question.

When you use the generatorkeycaching is your actual password in memory somewhere in the clear? Or, is it protected in some way and only decrypted when needed to sign a block?

Thanks for you good work and for ignoring all the FUD and price woe in the thread.
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July 17, 2014, 09:39:44 PM
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Is that correct?

Code:
{
"knownpeers":[
"146.185.141.232",
"162.243.170.76",
"42.159.153.145",
"88.198.69.99",
"85.21.237.35",
"193.242.149.63",
"113.250.226.131"
],
"minconnections": 10,
"generatorkeycaching": true
}

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