[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[Corleone1918]

I have seen this many times, the developer who has a lot of the coins dumps and runs off. I think it is Qora who is dumping now this much.

hello , Newbie,
I have seen this many times, Many women betrayed her husband.  I think your wife betrayed you.

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[twistelaar]

Those who don't need money and are selling their Qora, are idiots 

[Equate]

I have seen this many times, the developer who has a lot of the coins dumps and runs off. I think it is Qora who is dumping now this much.

Newbie account created for FUD ? go play with your toys noob and stop spreading FUD.

[Tuck Fheman]

You can forge SAFELY with Version 13 because the wallet doesn't need to remain unlocked.

Is there an indicator that the client is forging when locked or some way to verify that the client is forging when locked?

[Daedelus]

Where are the proofs Qora refers to, is the source no longer obfuscated when decompiled?

Nobody else interested in these proofs that will end the speculation and debate? Qora himself says they exist.

[Daedelus]

Where are the proofs Qora refers to, is the source no longer obfuscated when decompiled?

Nobody else (who isn't just here to pump the coin) interested in these proofs that will end the speculation and debate? Qora himself says they exist.

Fixed it for me.

If the source can be shown to be new, the price would skyrocket. Why are you trying to deflect attention from this.

Qora says proofs exist today, we don't have to wait for the source code.

[twospirit]

how to forge safely added to wiki
https://wiki.qora.org/index.php/Safe_Forging

[Daedelus]

If the source can be shown to be new, the price would skyrocket. Why are you trying to deflect attention from this.

It is YOU nobody is paying attention to...   

The ever useful posts of Smaragda. You forgot the kiss at the end.


Anyone else want to decompile the current source, just to confirm if it is still obfuscated? You never know.

[CHAO]

qora,up up up^^^^^^^!!!!!!

[-spaw-]

If the source can be shown to be new, the price would skyrocket. Why are you trying to deflect attention from this.

It is YOU nobody is paying attention to...   

The ever useful posts of Smaragda. You forgot the kiss at the end.


Anyone else want to decompile the current source, just to confirm if it is still obfuscated? You never know.

Daedelus,

I did this on a lark yesterday. Looks like everything decompiles and is readily viewable. I believe even Jean Luc has done this and stated that it was not a NXT clone. I'm not a programmer so I'll just take his word for it, but it does look like you can decompile it and see for yourself.

spaw

[-spaw-]

For those interested in discussing what features they'd like to see added to the wallet GUI: https://forum.qora.org/index.php?topic=54.0

[Daedelus]

If the source can be shown to be new, the price would skyrocket. Why are you trying to deflect attention from this.

It is YOU nobody is paying attention to...  

The ever useful posts of Smaragda. You forgot the kiss at the end.


Anyone else want to decompile the current source, just to confirm if it is still obfuscated? You never know.

Daedelus,

I did this on a lark yesterday. Looks like everything decompiles and is readily viewable. I believe even Jean Luc has done this and stated that it was not a NXT clone. I'm not a programmer so I'll just take his word for it, but it does look like you can decompile it and see for yourself.

spaw

I was the one who asked jean-luc to look at the code. His comments are inconclusive, they can support both arguements depending on which bit you choose to bold.

We need a dev to look at it, I don't doubt it decompiles to something but you and I probably couldn't tell if it is obfuscated or not.

[notsoshifty]

I was the one who asked jean-luc to look at the code. His comments are inconclusive, they can support both arguements depending on which bit you choose to bold.

We need a dev to look at it, I don't doubt it decompiles to something but you and I probably couldn't tell if it is obfuscated or not.

The Qora code is readily decompilable, and although obfuscated it is clear that it is very different from the Nxt codebase. You don't need to be an experienced Java developer to verify this (although of course it helps, as does knowledge of the Nxt codebase). Perhaps in the dim and distant past it was somehow based on Nxt - although I believe it wasn't - and in any case it is now very very different.

Other things you can readily check:

 - The communication between nodes is very different to that of Nxt
 - Account IDs, passphrase system, brainwallet etc are different to those of Nxt
 - UI is very different to that of Nxt

I really don't understand why people still think that Qora is a clone of Nxt. I assume that all such claims are basically trolling.

[Mr_X]

Unfortunately I cannot start qora (V13, Ubuntu 13.10).
Any missing dependencies?

Code:

# ./run.sh 
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
	at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606)
	at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.jarinjarloader.JarRsrcLoader.main(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/json/simple/JSONValue
	at e.a.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at e.a.bN(Unknown Source)
	at b.f.z(Unknown Source)
	at a.a.start(Unknown Source)
	at Start.main(Unknown Source)
	... 5 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.json.simple.JSONValue
	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:366)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:355)
	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:354)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:425)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:358)
	... 10 more

[Vrontis]

I really don't understand why people still think that Qora is a clone of Nxt. I assume that all such claims are basically trolling.

They feel fear, uncertainty and doubt.

[newpeled1986]

The Qora code is readily decompilable, and although obfuscated it is clear that it is very different from the Nxt codebase. You don't need to be an experienced Java developer to verify this (although of course it helps, as does knowledge of the Nxt codebase). Perhaps in the dim and distant past it was somehow based on Nxt - although I believe it wasn't - and in any case it is now very very different.

Other things you can readily check:

 - The communication between nodes is very different to that of Nxt
 - Account IDs, passphrase system, brainwallet etc are different to those of Nxt
 - UI is very different to that of Nxt

I really don't understand why people still think that Qora is a clone of Nxt. I assume that all such claims are basically trolling.

it won't quite the trolls but thank you for your post 

[Daedelus]

I was the one who asked jean-luc to look at the code. His comments are inconclusive, they can support both arguements depending on which bit you choose to bold.

We need a dev to look at it, I don't doubt it decompiles to something but you and I probably couldn't tell if it is obfuscated or not.

The Qora code is readily decompilable, and although obfuscated it is clear that it is very different from the Nxt codebase. You don't need to be an experienced Java developer to verify this (although of course it helps, as does knowledge of the Nxt codebase). Perhaps in the dim and distant past it was somehow based on Nxt - although I believe it wasn't - and in any case it is now very very different.

Other things you can readily check:

 - The communication between nodes is very different to that of Nxt
 - Account IDs, passphrase system, brainwallet etc are different to those of Nxt
 - UI is very different to that of Nxt

I really don't understand why people still think that Qora is a clone of Nxt. I assume that all such claims are basically trolling.

+1 very constructive.

[-spaw-]

Qora currently has 2nd highest BTC volume on Bter!

[PondSea]

Qora currently has 2nd highest BTC volume on Bter!

It is definitely moving.

Over 35BTC worth in the last 24 hours 

[rabbiter]

Qora currently has 2nd highest BTC volume on Bter!

It is definitely moving.

Over 35BTC worth in the last 24 hours 

um how do I break this to you.