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Author Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source  (Read 748196 times)
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July 28, 2014, 01:44:47 PM
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I have no reasons for not believing Qora that this coin is a new source and I have a lot of reasons for not believing Jl's comment about v0.4.

So I will wait and see... And there are many devs in here that they can confirm or not if it is a new source.



while many here seem to think I'm attacking this coin by pushing for OS I'm actually trying to help it. The reason we should go OS is because I fully trust the quality and integrity of Qora the developer. Once the code comes out I personally believe all competition will be blown out of the water. Qora clearly can implement functions that take teams a long time to do, imagine how simple and brilliant the SC will be.


If we OS Qora, clones are not the biggest threat, it's NXT trying to copy some of it's ideas.  But probably it will be too late for NXT to back peddle.


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July 28, 2014, 02:11:04 PM
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smaragda, dzarmush...

Is it a good time to buy Qora right now?

Give me an honest answer. You're quite direct overall in your responses so I know I can count on no bullshit. Thanks...
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July 28, 2014, 02:15:18 PM
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while many here seem to think I'm attacking this coin by pushing for OS I'm actually trying to help it. The reason we should go OS is because I fully trust the quality and integrity of Qora the developer. Once the code comes out I personally believe all competition will be blown out of the water. Qora clearly can implement functions that take teams a long time to do, imagine how simple and brilliant the SC will be.


If we OS Qora, clones are not the biggest threat, it's NXT trying to copy some of it's ideas.  But probably it will be too late for NXT to back peddle.


The community has voted on this matter, let it go already.

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July 28, 2014, 02:44:31 PM
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I know English is not the first language of many here but what part of

"It's more likley a good java devloper who started from original nxt 0.4"

Don't people understand? Jean Luc has said it definitely uses ideas from NXT and is likely to be based on early NXT code.

Since you insist on OS for whatever agenda you have (i know, you'll say it's for the community - but the community voted 99% against), let me state I am against OS right now and am fine with Qora's plans.

There is a big difference between stating uses ideas and is a clone. Nxt used ideas that were present in  Bitcoin, Peercoin, Mastercoin and Ripple, does that make it a clone of all of them? No!


Here's my opionion on JL's comments:
It is also apparent that JL did not actually review the code as he states the code was obfuscated and did not have time to dig further, in fact, (he was not even sure of the obfuscation software that was used) which leads me to believe he viewed the directory strucure and took a shot in the dark.

No biggie, he didn't have time to dig deeper into Qora, so he didn't decompile, he saw it was a java based POS crypto launching around the same time as Nxt and made a simple staement that is leading to assumptions.

I also suggest you read a recent post by notsoshifty https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg8040890#msg8040890

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July 28, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
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while many here seem to think I'm attacking this coin by pushing for OS I'm actually trying to help it. The reason we should go OS is because I fully trust the quality and integrity of Qora the developer. Once the code comes out I personally believe all competition will be blown out of the water. Qora clearly can implement functions that take teams a long time to do, imagine how simple and brilliant the SC will be.


If we OS Qora, clones are not the biggest threat, it's NXT trying to copy some of it's ideas.  But probably it will be too late for NXT to back peddle.


The community has voted on this matter, let it go already.

Lets delay the open source...even then only open source parts of it with inserted flaws...anyone who wants to build a clone should have the competence to put those different pieces together...
Fully open sourcing the code only benefits the other clone coins...
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July 28, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
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[12:47:51] <qorafan> @Qora: How much time will be needed to complete AE?
[12:49:09] <Qora> Depending on the other things I need to do I think about 2 weeks.

Then Moon?  Smiley

I'm not the author of that chat. Another is using my name.
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July 28, 2014, 05:31:20 PM
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[12:47:51] <qorafan> @Qora: How much time will be needed to complete AE?
[12:49:09] <Qora> Depending on the other things I need to do I think about 2 weeks.

Then Moon?  Smiley

I'm not the author of that chat. Another is using my name.
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it seems we have a lot of Qorafans  Cheesy
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July 28, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
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[12:47:51] <qorafan> @Qora: How much time will be needed to complete AE?
[12:49:09] <Qora> Depending on the other things I need to do I think about 2 weeks.

Then Moon?  Smiley

I'm not the author of that chat. Another is using my name.
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it seems we have a lot of Qorafans  Cheesy

jaajaja.
In Qora we trust!
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July 28, 2014, 06:50:35 PM
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I am looking forward to the AE. Lets hope it will offer some unique features!

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July 28, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
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smaragda, dzarmush...

Is it a good time to buy Qora right now?

Give me an honest answer. You're quite direct overall in your responses so I know I can count on no bullshit. Thanks...

Everything under 25 satoshi could be considered as a gift.

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July 28, 2014, 08:52:17 PM
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What's the gameplan for mobile with Qora?


Mobile is essential, tablet and phone optimised apps, android and OS X.
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July 28, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
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smaragda, dzarmush...

Is it a good time to buy Qora right now?

Give me an honest answer. You're quite direct overall in your responses so I know I can count on no bullshit. Thanks...

Everything under 25 satoshi could be considered as a gift.

Longterm if everything plays out fine (dev not bailing ect) then yes. But the situation has quite a bit changed, the momentum is gone that lead to major interest after the launch.

But I am not sure if this is a QORA thing or related to the fact that all alts currently struggle.

We will see though and I will hold on tight to my QORAs!

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July 28, 2014, 10:14:38 PM
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smaragda, dzarmush...

Is it a good time to buy Qora right now?

Give me an honest answer. You're quite direct overall in your responses so I know I can count on no bullshit. Thanks...

Everything under 25 satoshi could be considered as a gift.

Longterm if everything plays out fine (dev not bailing ect) then yes. But the situation has quite a bit changed, the momentum is gone that lead to major interest after the launch.

But I am not sure if this is a QORA thing or related to the fact that all alts currently struggle.

We will see though and I will hold on tight to my QORAs!

I predict the momentum will return once AE and some wallet GUI is implemented. The momentum won't come from hype like most coins by growing usage of the AE platform I think.
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July 28, 2014, 10:16:49 PM
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smaragda, dzarmush...

Is it a good time to buy Qora right now?

Give me an honest answer. You're quite direct overall in your responses so I know I can count on no bullshit. Thanks...

Everything under 25 satoshi could be considered as a gift.

Longterm if everything plays out fine (dev not bailing ect) then yes. But the situation has quite a bit changed, the momentum is gone that lead to major interest after the launch.

But I am not sure if this is a QORA thing or related to the fact that all alts currently struggle.

We will see though and I will hold on tight to my QORAs!

I predict the momentum will return once AE and some wallet GUI is implemented. The momentum won't come from hype like most coins by growing usage of the AE platform I think.

Hmm, hard to say. I think it may need more than a standard AE. Some unique features need to be implemented imo. Like dividend features ect.

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July 29, 2014, 08:39:03 AM
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I downloaded qora v13. It doesn't work in MACOS.  Sad

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606)
   at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.jarinjarloader.JarRsrcLoader.main(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no Qora25519.mac in java.library.path
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1886)
   at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:849)
   at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1088)
   at qora.crypto.Ed25519.bi(Unknown Source)
   at a.a.start(Unknown Source)
   at Start.main(Unknown Source)
   ... 5 more
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July 29, 2014, 08:44:02 AM
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I downloaded qora v13. It doesn't work in MACOS.  Sad

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606)
   at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.jarinjarloader.JarRsrcLoader.main(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no Qora25519.mac in java.library.path
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1886)
   at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:849)
   at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1088)
   at qora.crypto.Ed25519.bi(Unknown Source)
   at a.a.start(Unknown Source)
   at Start.main(Unknown Source)
   ... 5 more


Don't know much about Macs, but that almost looks like it can't find the libraries. Did you set the path to them when you invoked it? Again, not familiar with Macs so don't know how you would do that.

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July 29, 2014, 09:29:18 AM
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I downloaded qora v13. It doesn't work in MACOS.  Sad

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606)
   at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.jarinjarloader.JarRsrcLoader.main(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no Qora25519.mac in java.library.path
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1886)
   at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:849)
   at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1088)
   at qora.crypto.Ed25519.bi(Unknown Source)
   at a.a.start(Unknown Source)
   at Start.main(Unknown Source)
   ... 5 more


Probably you don't have java installed or ran.bat can't find it. If you need to install Java one of these videos should help. The one about installing java on Mac https://www.youtube.com/user/qoracrypto/videos

If you have Java but run.bat can't find it you'd need to edit run.bat and type a location of Java.exe there

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July 29, 2014, 11:30:31 AM
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blockexplorer on fork?
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July 29, 2014, 11:37:51 AM
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Is it good time to buy Qora right now?
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July 29, 2014, 11:52:52 AM
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Is it good time to buy Qora right now?
yes
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