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Question: Who Will Be English Premier League Champions: 2024/25
Manchester City - 1 (16.7%)
Arsenal - 1 (16.7%)
Liverpool - 2 (33.3%)
Aston Villa - 1 (16.7%)
Tottenham Hotspur - 0 (0%)
Chelsea - 1 (16.7%)
Newcastle United - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 0 (0%)
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September 07, 2024, 05:20:06 PM
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In the end this is the Premier League therefore we will always see some shock results from time to time. Maybe Bournemouth will surprise us all by beating Chelsea but to be honest we have all noticed Chelsea are not exactly playing great football. Having said that, I think Chelsea would not be happy with a draw (and a point) whereas Bournemouth probably will be.
Premier league generally experiencing a shock has not being the major issue, for me it's the fact that I always get disappointed by Chelsea even though they sometimes make good wins but it ends up being against my prediction. But there is no convincing point that Bournemouth would win Chelsea based on their last performance.


I'm still pretty sure Man United can win the next match because there will be a new face in their squad, that is Manuel Ugarte. He may not carry Man United alone because to win it still has to rely on the front line to score goals. But his presence will at least make the back line stronger, and what is quite a relief, there will be no more blunders from Casemiro because he will definitely be pushed to the bench.

Southampton will indeed be playing at home, but their condition is not better than Man United. So Man United have a good chance here and they have to get that win because it will be very important for their mentality.
Even though Manchester United might be so on form this season let's not underestimate the fact that Southampton could play better for the mere fact that its their home, Man United will only have to play a defensive game in order not to lose which might end up being a draw match.
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September 07, 2024, 07:39:34 PM
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By the way, it’s quite ironic, but with Galatasaray Osimhen will play in the European Cup (Europa League), but with Napoli he would only play in Serie A. If Galatasaray had made it to the Champions League, it would have been even funnier, but Young Boys pulled off one of the biggest upsets in the playoffs, so Osimhen will play in the Europa League.
As for the move to Chelsea, a lot will depend on how Osimhen shows himself in the new club, what Chelsea offered in terms of salary was not serious.
Even if Osimhen does not have a successful loan spell at Galatasaray, he will eventually find a way to play for Chelsea because it is one of his biggest dreams and the club really could utilise his brilliance. I think the move will happen as soon as his loan at Galatasaray comes to an end.

But if Osimhen wanted, he would have already agreed to a pay cut and gone to Chelsea. The only reason he is not at Chelsea is because he does not agree to reduce his salary even by a dollar. At Napoli, he gets 12 million a year, Chelsea offered him some shady scheme with the main part (4 million) and a bonus (another 4). Obviously, Osimhen was not satisfied with this. Maybe Osimhen can give in and agree to a salary cut, but certainly not such a strong (and murky) one.

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September 08, 2024, 08:19:20 AM
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One thing about the Osimhen deal I would like to talk about that came out recently; Drogba was the one that made it possible by calling Osimhen up as well.

Drogba is famous in all over Africa, he is respected a lot because he once even stopped a civil war, so he is an important influential figure and when Osimhen talked with him, Drogba played at Galatasaray before and he said all the nice things about Galatasaray and suggested going there, which made Osimhen happy to join and that is how the deal was done so easily, maybe it would have been done anyway, but Drogba certainly helped.

Guess where else Drogba played? That's right, Chelsea. Dude is a Chelsea legend and even he suggested Galatasaray and didn't pushed for Chelsea earlier on. Goes to show you how mismanaged Chelsea is.

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September 08, 2024, 09:20:38 AM
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There are several solid options here, but Southampton is just too far off and too risky for me. Manutd are ass, but Southampton are far worse than they are; I predict Manutd to win this one. ETH is already under pressure, and losing to Southampton would put him under much greater strain, which I am sure he does not want. He will give the fans a boost of confidence by comfortably beating Southampton.
Manchester United have become a joke. They used to win games in the tunnel before a ball was even kicked when opponents saw a midfield consisting of legends and strikers who knew how to put the ball in the back of the net. I do not see any fight in any of the teams Ten Hag has put on the field and when they travel away to a team such as Southampton in desperate need of a win, I am almost certain Manchester United will lose  Grin

But if Osimhen wanted, he would have already agreed to a pay cut and gone to Chelsea. The only reason he is not at Chelsea is because he does not agree to reduce his salary even by a dollar. At Napoli, he gets 12 million a year, Chelsea offered him some shady scheme with the main part (4 million) and a bonus (another 4). Obviously, Osimhen was not satisfied with this. Maybe Osimhen can give in and agree to a salary cut, but certainly not such a strong (and murky) one.
I tried but did not find any report explaining the real reason why Osimhen did not end up at Chelsea. I doubt it was specifically just down to just his salary, there has to be more to it than that.

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September 08, 2024, 01:20:21 PM
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Drogba is famous in all over Africa, he is respected a lot because he once even stopped a civil war, so he is an important influential figure and when Osimhen talked with him, Drogba played at Galatasaray before and he said all the nice things about Galatasaray and suggested going there, which made Osimhen happy to join and that is how the deal was done so easily, maybe it would have been done anyway, but Drogba certainly helped.

Is D. Drogba aware of this cooked statement of yours? You really think Drogba would ask players to choose Gala over Chelsea? Lol mission impossible.

Manchester United have become a joke. They used to win games in the tunnel before a ball was even kicked when opponents saw a midfield consisting of legends and strikers who knew how to put the ball in the back of the net. I do not see any fight in any of the teams Ten Hag has put on the field and when they travel away to a team such as Southampton in desperate need of a win, I am almost certain Manchester United will lose  Grin

Safe to say Southampton +1 handicap @2.05 is a value bet?

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September 08, 2024, 02:48:35 PM
Last edit: September 08, 2024, 03:00:59 PM by Zackz5000
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One thing about the Osimhen deal I would like to talk about that came out recently; Drogba was the one that made it possible by calling Osimhen up as well.

Drogba is famous in all over Africa, he is respected a lot because he once even stopped a civil war, so he is an important influential figure and when Osimhen talked with him, Drogba played at Galatasaray before and he said all the nice things about Galatasaray and suggested going there, which made Osimhen happy to join and that is how the deal was done so easily, maybe it would have been done anyway, but Drogba certainly helped.

Guess where else Drogba played? That's right, Chelsea. Dude is a Chelsea legend and even he suggested Galatasaray and didn't pushed for Chelsea earlier on. Goes to show you how mismanaged Chelsea is.
Nothing is impossible though but I don't believe that Didier Drogba a formal Chelsea player and also a Chelsea leagend will advise Victor Osimhen to choose Galatasaray over Chelsea I don't think victor Osimhen is happy playing for Galatasaray at this age he chooses that part because he was no longer needed at Napoli.
There are several solid options here, but Southampton is just too far off and too risky for me. Manutd are ass, but Southampton are far worse than they are; I predict Manutd to win this one. ETH is already under pressure, and losing to Southampton would put him under much greater strain, which I am sure he does not want. He will give the fans a boost of confidence by comfortably beating Southampton.
Manchester United have become a joke. They used to win games in the tunnel before a ball was even kicked when opponents saw a midfield consisting of legends and strikers who knew how to put the ball in the back of the net. I do not see any fight in any of the teams Ten Hag has put on the field and when they travel away to a team such as Southampton in desperate need of a win, I am almost certain Manchester United will lose  Grin

Talking about Manchester United before the league started their manager Eric ten hag pronounce that Manchester United is not yet ready for the league so what was he doing all this while is what I don't understand.
Manchester United we know before is not the Manchester United we are seeing now right now there is pressure on both team and manage for he really need to win his next march against Southampton in order to keep his job secured, and with the way they are playing it will be difficult for them to grap all 3 point against Southampton in the coming weekend.

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Manchester United have become a joke. They used to win games in the tunnel before a ball was even kicked when opponents saw a midfield consisting of legends and strikers who knew how to put the ball in the back of the net. I do not see any fight in any of the teams Ten Hag has put on the field and when they travel away to a team such as Southampton in desperate need of a win, I am almost certain Manchester United will lose  Grin

Safe to say Southampton +1 handicap @2.05 is a value bet?
I cannot speculate on odds for that game but what I am certain about is Ten Hag is in big trouble because this is now a team that he has built and all of the players that he has at his disposal are the players he purchased or was happy to keep when his era started. He has zero excuses now if Manchester United were to lose some or all of the coming games. He will be sacked soon unless they go on a winning spree.

One thing about the Osimhen deal I would like to talk about that came out recently; Drogba was the one that made it possible by calling Osimhen up as well.

Drogba is famous in all over Africa, he is respected a lot because he once even stopped a civil war, so he is an important influential figure and when Osimhen talked with him, Drogba played at Galatasaray before and he said all the nice things about Galatasaray and suggested going there, which made Osimhen happy to join and that is how the deal was done so easily, maybe it would have been done anyway, but Drogba certainly helped.

Guess where else Drogba played? That's right, Chelsea. Dude is a Chelsea legend and even he suggested Galatasaray and didn't pushed for Chelsea earlier on. Goes to show you how mismanaged Chelsea is.
Nothing is impossible though but I don't believe that Didier Drogba a formal Chelsea player and also a Chelsea leagend will advise Victor Osimhen to choose Galatasaray over Chelsea I don't think victor Osimhen is happy playing for Galatasaray at this age he chooses that part because he was no longer needed at Napoli.
Osimhen never made an announcement about any conversation between him and Drogba therefore I agree, I do not believe Drogba advised Osimhen to join Galatasaray.

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September 08, 2024, 03:28:39 PM
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There are several solid options here, but Southampton is just too far off and too risky for me. Manutd are ass, but Southampton are far worse than they are; I predict Manutd to win this one. ETH is already under pressure, and losing to Southampton would put him under much greater strain, which I am sure he does not want. He will give the fans a boost of confidence by comfortably beating Southampton.
Manchester United have become a joke. They used to win games in the tunnel before a ball was even kicked when opponents saw a midfield consisting of legends and strikers who knew how to put the ball in the back of the net. I do not see any fight in any of the teams Ten Hag has put on the field and when they travel away to a team such as Southampton in desperate need of a win, I am almost certain Manchester United will lose  Grin

It is quite a big risk if you have to choose odd for Southampton to win because even though Man United is not doing well at the moment, I think Southampton is also in no better condition than Man United, and their only advantage is playing at home. In this match, I will choose Man United because I am quite sure that they will desperately chase the victory. In addition, Manuel Ugarte is likely to make his debut and I guess he can bring a new color to Man United's midfield and defense.

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News has been reported that Ugarte will start the game and to be honest if he is fully fit he has to start the game because of the way he makes it look easy as he intercepts opposing teams to break their attacks. If he occupies the same defensive midfielder role that he did for PSG then this can only help Manchester United. I still feel whether they take zero, one or three points depends on how bad Southampton will play rather how good Manchester United will play.

It is quite a big risk if you have to choose odd for Southampton to win because even though Man United is not doing well at the moment, I think Southampton is also in no better condition than Man United, and their only advantage is playing at home. In this match, I will choose Man United because I am quite sure that they will desperately chase the victory. In addition, Manuel Ugarte is likely to make his debut and I guess he can bring a new color to Man United's midfield and defense.

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September 08, 2024, 05:26:05 PM
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Osimhen never made an announcement about any conversation between him and Drogba therefore I agree, I do not believe Drogba advised Osimhen to join Galatasaray.

True. There is no such news I have heard of either. Onyekuru who is another Nigerian player who played for Galatasaray before advised Osimhen to sign for them. Mourinho praised him that he had a similar talent to Drogba.  Smiley  One day maybe Osimhen can really be even better than Drogba. It is all up to his development. But Drogba will always stay special for me.  Roll Eyes

News has been reported that Ugarte will start the game and to be honest if he is fully fit he has to start the game because of the way he makes it look easy as he intercepts opposing teams to break their attacks. If he occupies the same defensive midfielder role that he did for PSG then this can only help Manchester United. I still feel whether they take zero, one or three points depends on how bad Southampton will play rather how good Manchester United will play.

Finally! I'm fed up with watching Casemiro there. He can't play well anymore but he still says he will fight for his place. Good luck to him. Because I believe Ugarte can do much better - hopefully.  Tongue

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September 08, 2024, 07:35:30 PM
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Manchester United have become a joke. They used to win games in the tunnel before a ball was even kicked when opponents saw a midfield consisting of legends and strikers who knew how to put the ball in the back of the net. I do not see any fight in any of the teams Ten Hag has put on the field and when they travel away to a team such as Southampton in desperate need of a win, I am almost certain Manchester United will lose  Grin

Safe to say Southampton +1 handicap @2.05 is a value bet?
I cannot speculate on odds for that game but what I am certain about is Ten Hag is in big trouble because this is now a team that he has built and all of the players that he has at his disposal are the players he purchased or was happy to keep when his era started. He has zero excuses now if Manchester United were to lose some or all of the coming games. He will be sacked soon unless they go on a winning spree.

I'm not speculating odds I'm giving you the best valuable bet market option for Southampton since you're too confident that they're going to beat Manutd why not give give them +1 goal ahead? This way if it ends in draw you win.

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September 08, 2024, 10:10:47 PM
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But if Osimhen wanted, he would have already agreed to a pay cut and gone to Chelsea. The only reason he is not at Chelsea is because he does not agree to reduce his salary even by a dollar. At Napoli, he gets 12 million a year, Chelsea offered him some shady scheme with the main part (4 million) and a bonus (another 4). Obviously, Osimhen was not satisfied with this. Maybe Osimhen can give in and agree to a salary cut, but certainly not such a strong (and murky) one.
I tried but did not find any report explaining the real reason why Osimhen did not end up at Chelsea. I doubt it was specifically just down to just his salary, there has to be more to it than that.

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According to journalist Hawkins, Napoli forward Osimhen has rejected a contract offer from Chelsea, with the Blues offering €155k-a-week (£130k).
https://www.givemesport.com/victor-osimhen-chelsea-news-contract-rejected/

It is clear that this is all at the leak level, but we cannot have more verified information since the club and the player are not obliged to report on the progress of negotiations. Personally, the version that the main problem was the salary seems the most logical to me - it is difficult to fall from 12 million to 8, and as the same leaks say, even 8 is the maximum to achieve which it was necessary to meet some statistical indicators.

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I'm not speculating odds I'm giving you the best valuable bet market option for Southampton since you're too confident that they're going to beat Manutd why not give give them +1 goal ahead? This way if it ends in draw you win.
It is a value bet but as we get closer to actual game kicking-off we will see odds changing especially when probable starting elevens as well as injuries are discussed in the media.

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According to journalist Hawkins, Napoli forward Osimhen has rejected a contract offer from Chelsea, with the Blues offering €155k-a-week (£130k).
https://www.givemesport.com/victor-osimhen-chelsea-news-contract-rejected/

It is clear that this is all at the leak level, but we cannot have more verified information since the club and the player are not obliged to report on the progress of negotiations. Personally, the version that the main problem was the salary seems the most logical to me - it is difficult to fall from 12 million to 8, and as the same leaks say, even 8 is the maximum to achieve which it was necessary to meet some statistical indicators.
Even if the details surrounding the salary being an issue were 100% true, it seems strange that he would end up at Galatasaray when they are paying him €6 million a year whereas Chelsea were going to pay more. What is clear that Napoli will not be covering any part of the other €4 million he is losing out on. What baffles me more is that if he was not loaned out he would have stayed at Napoli and earned his full €10 million salary while being frozen out of the first team by Conte and the loan clause stated that Napoli can ask for another year on the existing contract Osimhen has with them when he returns.

All this means to me is that if he were allowed back in to the Napoli first team and he was an asset, they want to control whether to keep there longer and also to make sure he does not leave on a free transfer if he never makes back in to their squad.

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September 09, 2024, 01:32:10 PM
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According to journalist Hawkins, Napoli forward Osimhen has rejected a contract offer from Chelsea, with the Blues offering €155k-a-week (£130k).
https://www.givemesport.com/victor-osimhen-chelsea-news-contract-rejected/

It is clear that this is all at the leak level, but we cannot have more verified information since the club and the player are not obliged to report on the progress of negotiations. Personally, the version that the main problem was the salary seems the most logical to me - it is difficult to fall from 12 million to 8, and as the same leaks say, even 8 is the maximum to achieve which it was necessary to meet some statistical indicators.
Even if the details surrounding the salary being an issue were 100% true, it seems strange that he would end up at Galatasaray when they are paying him €6 million a year whereas Chelsea were going to pay more. What is clear that Napoli will not be covering any part of the other €4 million he is losing out on. What baffles me more is that if he was not loaned out he would have stayed at Napoli and earned his full €10 million salary while being frozen out of the first team by Conte and the loan clause stated that Napoli can ask for another year on the existing contract Osimhen has with them when he returns.

All this means to me is that if he were allowed back in to the Napoli first team and he was an asset, they want to control whether to keep there longer and also to make sure he does not leave on a free transfer if he never makes back in to their squad.

No, he doesn't lose anything. Galatasaray will pay him 6 million after taxes, and Chelsea offered 4+4 before taxes. Even if Osimhen received the maximum at Chelsea (8 million), he would have less money after taxes than he currently receives at Galatasaray. The central argument for Osimhen was money and he got it.

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September 09, 2024, 02:47:15 PM
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I'm not speculating odds I'm giving you the best valuable bet market option for Southampton since you're too confident that they're going to beat Manutd why not give give them +1 goal ahead? This way if it ends in draw you win.
It is a value bet but as we get closer to actual game kicking-off we will see odds changing especially when probable starting elevens as well as injuries are discussed in the media.

Then don't wait till odds start dropping, the best time to take is now that the odds are still stable and no injury News. Still find it very weird you're going for this.  Grin


No, he doesn't lose anything. Galatasaray will pay him 6 million after taxes, and Chelsea offered 4+4 before taxes. Even if Osimhen received the maximum at Chelsea (8 million), he would have less money after taxes than he currently receives at Galatasaray. The central argument for Osimhen was money and he got it.

If it was money, he would have gone to Saudi Arabia as there isn't much of a difference between the Turkish and Saudi PRO leagues right now. A close friend of Osimhen, John Obi, a Chelsea icon, explained that the deal between Osimhen and Chelsea was close but that they were unable to finalise a few documents before the deadline. Both Osimhen and Chelsea fought until the end to make it happen, but it did not happen due to time constraints. Too many side  Angry

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September 09, 2024, 08:07:24 PM
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Then don't wait till odds start dropping, the best time to take is now that the odds are still stable and no injury News. Still find it very weird you're going for this.  Grin
I am not waiting for anything even though I am convinced Manchester United will get beaten. When the odds were worse/better or when they change for that game (or any other game) it makes no difference to me  Grin

No, he doesn't lose anything. Galatasaray will pay him 6 million after taxes, and Chelsea offered 4+4 before taxes. Even if Osimhen received the maximum at Chelsea (8 million), he would have less money after taxes than he currently receives at Galatasaray. The central argument for Osimhen was money and he got it.

If it was money, he would have gone to Saudi Arabia as there isn't much of a difference between the Turkish and Saudi PRO leagues right now. A close friend of Osimhen, John Obi, a Chelsea icon, explained that the deal between Osimhen and Chelsea was close but that they were unable to finalise a few documents before the deadline. Both Osimhen and Chelsea fought until the end to make it happen, but it did not happen due to time constraints. Too many side  Angry
That version of events is extremely difficult to believe because people will definitely be asking how was there enough time for Napoli and Osimhen to finalise a deal with Galatasaray on deadline day but there was not enough time for them to conclude a deal with Chelsea even though they were chasing Osimhen most of the summer transfer window? Something is not right.

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September 10, 2024, 08:29:34 PM
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If it was money, he would have gone to Saudi Arabia as there isn't much of a difference between the Turkish and Saudi PRO leagues right now. A close friend of Osimhen, John Obi, a Chelsea icon, explained that the deal between Osimhen and Chelsea was close but that they were unable to finalise a few documents before the deadline. Both Osimhen and Chelsea fought until the end to make it happen, but it did not happen due to time constraints. Too many side  Angry

In fact, Osimkhen agreed to go to Saudi Arabia, but when everything was already agreed, Napoli wanted another +5 million  above of already agreed amount (70 millions if i remember correctly). Al-Ahli after that left the negotiations. The breakdown of this transfer is Napoli's pure wine. Apparently they did not expect the Saudis would be so fundamental. The transition to Chelsea did not take place due to money (this time Osimkhen is the main factor), I do not believe that the “transfer which was making from nowhere” to Galatasaray was easier to organize than a transfer to Chelsea since work on a transfer to Chelsea had been conducted for a long time.

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September 10, 2024, 08:37:54 PM
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That version of events is extremely difficult to believe because people will definitely be asking how was there enough time for Napoli and Osimhen to finalise a deal with Galatasaray on deadline day but there was not enough time for them to conclude a deal with Chelsea even though they were chasing Osimhen most of the summer transfer window

Could be true; he's closer to Osimhen than most journalists; he's been pushing for the deal since last season, and besides Saudi and Turkey transfer deadlines were 3 days later than the Premier League deadline, Gala did not negotiate; instead, they agreed to whatever Napoli and Osimhen wanted without delay and completed the deal.

In fact, Osimkhen agreed to go to Saudi Arabia, but when everything was already agreed, Napoli wanted another +5 million  above of already agreed amount (70 millions if i remember correctly). Al-Ahli after that left the negotiations. The breakdown of this transfer is Napoli's pure wine. Apparently they did not expect the Saudis would be so fundamental. The transition to Chelsea did not take place due to money (this time Osimkhen is the main factor), I do not believe that the “transfer which was making from nowhere” to Galatasaray was easier to organize than a transfer to Chelsea since work on a transfer to Chelsea had been conducted for a long time.

Yes Napoli shifted the release clause a bit, wanted more money from Saudi since they were ready to throw free money to Osimhen Pocket.

Chelsea negotiated different terms while Gala just agreed to all what Napoli and Osimhen wanted. He's on a dry loan BTW

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September 10, 2024, 08:53:53 PM
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If it was money, he would have gone to Saudi Arabia as there isn't much of a difference between the Turkish and Saudi PRO leagues right now. A close friend of Osimhen, John Obi, a Chelsea icon, explained that the deal between Osimhen and Chelsea was close but that they were unable to finalise a few documents before the deadline. Both Osimhen and Chelsea fought until the end to make it happen, but it did not happen due to time constraints. Too many side  Angry

In fact, Osimkhen agreed to go to Saudi Arabia, but when everything was already agreed, Napoli wanted another +5 million  above of already agreed amount (70 millions if i remember correctly). Al-Ahli after that left the negotiations. The breakdown of this transfer is Napoli's pure wine. Apparently they did not expect the Saudis would be so fundamental. The transition to Chelsea did not take place due to money (this time Osimkhen is the main factor), I do not believe that the “transfer which was making from nowhere” to Galatasaray was easier to organize than a transfer to Chelsea since work on a transfer to Chelsea had been conducted for a long time.
I didn't hear back f the extra +5 million  part of the transfer story. And I also heard that it was Victor Osimhen that refused and rejected the offer from Chelsea and since the current club Napoli has agreed to allow him to join another club or leave the club Napoli, he has to accept the offer from Galatasaray. And from Osimhen, he said, there some players friends he found in the club which he trusts and can help him and that was why he accepted the offer from Galatasaray.

But their is another serious story trending in social media and national newspapers that the former Chelsea Midfielder, Mike Obi said, he will still work Victor Osimhen out from Galatasaray to Chelsea and he really wants Osimhen to join Chelsea. And I don't know how possible is that.

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September 10, 2024, 09:00:37 PM
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But if Osimhen wanted, he would have already agreed to a pay cut and gone to Chelsea. The only reason he is not at Chelsea is because he does not agree to reduce his salary even by a dollar. At Napoli, he gets 12 million a year, Chelsea offered him some shady scheme with the main part (4 million) and a bonus (another 4). Obviously, Osimhen was not satisfied with this. Maybe Osimhen can give in and agree to a salary cut, but certainly not such a strong (and murky) one.
I think Chelsea made him an offer that was less than he was worth. Why would he sign for much less than what he got at Napoli? Also Osimhen is not a low quality player. I think he has the talent to demand the salary he wants. I think it's a loss for Chelsea.

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