Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[mindrust]

If they still demand you to get vaxxed after 2-3 years now thats fucked up.

Where do they get the authority to demand anything of you? Don't they get it because they have the guns and you don't?

It's past time for you to arm yourself, and get together with your friends who are armed, as well. After all, since you are going to die from their vaccine any way, arm yourself and fight. That way you might have the chance to keep from dying.

They can demand and use force but I am going to take the damn thing as long as I can.

Arm myself and do wot? Kill the gov people? Nah. Not my thing. I know if everybody thinks like me then nothing will change for good but life is too short to play rambo.

I'll let the others do the ramboing.

... just checked your post history, and seen you use certain buzzwords, your a trump supporter, and seemed to have not done your research on multiple topics.
funnier part is you enjoy promoting big business while pretending to be anti-corp by making stuff up about other businesses to hide your corporate admiration.
have you ever took a step back and wondered how you and a few other idiots seem to be spouting the same scripts and buzzwords. almost like your on auto pilot

I didn't need to do any security checks on you because you are a famous forum troll.   Whatever you are promoting is probably bad for health.

[BADecker]

^^^ That's good if you sit back and let others do your ramboing. The US military knows what to do with obstinate Gandhi types... something the British didn't seem to know what to do about.

[bryant.coleman]

Who on earth even uses Wikipedia as a reliable source, even high school students know that if they cite that website as their source for their assignments, activity, or even research projects, they will definitely get an F. The thing about Wikipedia is that any person can access that site, and edit the contents. I can't say pretty much about the leftist thing, but different kinds of idiots put malicious content in the middle of the statements in some article as a joke or trolling.

But maybe you can use it as a cross-referencing source, but never as a reliable main source of information.

If you are researching on any topic outside the politically charged ones, then Wikipedia can be a reliable as well as easily accessible source of information. Because most of the editors in these sections are highly knowledgeable. But sections related to politics, history and religion are hopeless. The moderators have the power to reject references and some of them do that in a highly biased manner.

[Natsuu]

Who on earth even uses Wikipedia as a reliable source, even high school students know that if they cite that website as their source for their assignments, activity, or even research projects, they will definitely get an F. The thing about Wikipedia is that any person can access that site, and edit the contents. I can't say pretty much about the leftist thing, but different kinds of idiots put malicious content in the middle of the statements in some article as a joke or trolling.

But maybe you can use it as a cross-referencing source, but never as a reliable main source of information.

If you are researching on any topic outside the politically charged ones, then Wikipedia can be a reliable as well as easily accessible source of information. Because most of the editors in these sections are highly knowledgeable. But sections related to politics, history and religion are hopeless. The moderators have the power to reject references and some of them do that in a highly biased manner.

Also don't forget about literature, where even the most gorgeous woman in the book turned into something in Wikipedia. But beware to the information therein regards to science and math, cause one time in my chemistry class, we cross-reference a book and some articles with Wikipedia, and turns out that Wikipedia is wrong. This was proof for me as Wikipedia as an unreliable source of information. Although as I said, I can use it for cross-referencing and some non-that-matter searches.

Also the thing about Wikipedia when you got something wrong, you can't argue to your prof or teacher that you just use Wikipedia as a source, cause "everybody knows that Wikipedia is unreliable source of information".

[BADecker]

If we don't trust the vaccine, all we need is a touch of the old fear tactics.


New York Times Columnist: 'It's Time to Scare People About Covid'

The New York Times contributing Opinion writer Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal provides a great example of how to intensify dread risk fear in the country over a virus that is not of severe consequence to 99.9% of the population.

In her latest column she writes:

It's time to make people scared and uncomfortable. It's time for some sharp, focused terrifying realism.

"Fear appeals can be very effective," said Jay Van Bavel, associate professor of psychology at New York University, who co-authored a paper in Nature about how social science could support Covid response efforts...

[M]aybe we need a P.S.A. featuring someone actually on a ventilator in the hospital. You might see that person "bucking the vent" — bodies naturally rebel against the machine forcing pressurized oxygen into the lungs, which is why patients are typically sedated...

Another message could feature a patient lying in an I.C.U. bed, immobile, tubes in the groin, with a mask delivering 100 percent oxygen over the mouth and nose — eyes wide with fear, watching the saturation numbers rise and dip on the monitor over the bed...

These P.S.A.s might sound harsh, but they might overcome our natural denial.


Natural denial?

This is madness. The country is already in fear because of a virus that is not of severe consequence to 99.9% of the population.

Rosenthal is thinking like a blunt instrument central planner who holds the view that nothing matters other than the bizarre attempt to prevent COVID-19 from spreading. Maybe we should start blasting videos to Rosenthal of the suicides, spousal abuse, child abuse and depression that have exploded since the fight to "protect" the country against a virus that is not of severe consequence to 99.9% of the population.

Even though Rosenthal was an emergency room physician before becoming a journalist, she is not thinking like a scientist. She is thinking like a crazed propaganda power freak.

Her "thinking" taking hold is what I fear.

[BADecker]

Dealing with the available information one can go for the test but Politics is not making decision of citizens difficult. There are still many question being asked with no answer, why taking the vaccine twice ? Can immunized individuals be a carrier? many more but the concern which is reasonable is to stop the dead and restore the economy early.

If you want loads more questions, and a bunch of answers, look here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/.

Also, check this out: Pfizer, AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline all INFILTRATED
by communist Chinese CCP loyalists... vax industry totally compromised! - https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-13-communist-china-infiltrated-vaccine-giants-pfizer-astrazeneca-glaxosmithkline.html.

How about: Ten year study shows that UNVACCINATED are far healthier than their vaccinated peers who suffer from more respiratory infections, asthma, allergies, etc. - https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-13-unvaccinated-children-are-healthier-than-vaccinated-peers.html.

[franky1]

How about: Ten year study shows that UNVACCINATED are far healthier than their vaccinated peers who suffer from more respiratory infections, asthma, allergies, etc. - https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-13-unvaccinated-children-are-healthier-than-vaccinated-peers.html.

funny part is the 'unvax' crowd are the ones complaining most how they are screwed up by government
mostly they suffer from paranoia and are in receipt of disability social security for long lists of ailments

another funny thing is the 'unvax' group dont trust doctors so by default wont take them to doctors for yearly check-ups.
'unvax' group instead go to pill mill unregistered quacks for their herbal remedies and to write reports how their kid has autism so they can claim social security.

so yes obviously the 'unvax' children wont have as many formal doctors visits as normal kids. and their meical records will be blank

its like saying basement dwellers are less likely to die in a plane accident or car accident. not because they are safer drivers or only take flights with airlines with good maintenance programs. but simple because they never get out of their basement

its also like saying badecker cant play gold this year.. but reality is that golf resorts were open this year in badeckers state. but he cant play golf because he never left his basement to visit a golf resort

[BADecker]

How about: Ten year study shows that UNVACCINATED are far healthier than their vaccinated peers who suffer from more respiratory infections, asthma, allergies, etc. - https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-13-unvaccinated-children-are-healthier-than-vaccinated-peers.html.

funny part is the 'unvax' crowd are the ones complaining most how they are screwed up by government
mostly they suffer from paranoia and are in receipt of disability social security for long lists of ailments

another funny thing is the 'unvax' group dont trust doctors so by default wont take them to doctors for yearly check-ups.
'unvax' group instead go to pill mill unregistered quacks for their herbal remedies and to write reports how their kid has autism so they can claim social security.

so yes obviously the 'unvax' children wont have as many formal doctors visits as normal kids. and their meical records will be blank

its like saying basement dwellers are less likely to die in a plane accident or car accident. not because they are safer drivers or only take flights with airlines with good maintenance programs. but simple because they never get out of their basement

its also like saying badecker cant play gold this year.. but reality is that golf resorts were open this year in badeckers state. but he cant play golf because he never left his basement to visit a golf resort

Doctors are mostly good people. But they don't have time to test out everything the people they trust say... the people in Big Pharma.

Finally the doctors are coming to understand the lies of Big Pharma. And the people are realizing these lies at the same time. Even though the doctors are now fighting Big Pharma and its lies, the people don't know this for sure. So the people will stop visiting the doctors as often, or using their advice if they happen to go for a friendly visit.

[Gyfts]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/14/world/covid-19-coronavirus

Vaccine distribution starts - looks like healthcare workers on the front lines will be receiving the vaccine first, similar to the UK. You need the vaccine in two doses, and apparently you're not in the clear until the second dose, although the first dose gives some form of protection.

You would think nearly every healthcare worker in the NYC area would have antibodies for this thing already. Hard to imagine healthcare workers that have been on the front lines for 9 months would not have gotten the disease yet.

[franky1]

You would think nearly every healthcare worker in the NYC area would have antibodies for this thing already. Hard to imagine healthcare workers that have been on the front lines for 9 months would not have gotten the disease yet.

you would think...
.. with about 30% of healthcare workers with co-morbidities told to isolate at home and take furlough/break
.. with only a small number of healthcare workers actually being trained in ICU/critical care.
.. with them wearing more PPE that average people

that the number of healthcare workers that have been exposed is actually lower.. then YOU think

EG a colon cancer doctor would not even be allowed in the sectioned off area dedicated for covid patients
EG a 64yo nurse with heart and diabetic issues would be put on 6-9 month break from work or put on duties away from the covid ward

[tvbcof]

...
Doctors are mostly good people. But they don't have time to test out everything the people they trust say... the people in Big Pharma.
...

I'm unconvinced that doctor are, on average, 'good people' as I would define it.  They seem pretty nonchalant about causing pain which is probably the natural fallout from many years of doing so I would guess.  To make matters worse, Joe Public (under the direction of mainstream media) puts doctors on a pedestal which is much higher than their worth or capabilities justify.  Deep down most of them seem to realize this and it seems that this tends to give a lot of them some rather unpleasant character defects.

Doctors tend to have spent about 25 years solid memorizing information and spitting it back out in a form acceptable to medical schools (and other authorities prior to medical school.)  They are creations of the medical/industrial complex and if they don't adhere to directives they don't work.  Few of the doctors I've worked with show almost any signs of intellectual curiosity or any interest in deviating from a very rigid set of protocols defined by their licensing bodies.

More than anything medical doctors seem to me to tend to be insecure people who live in a state of terrified fearfulness that they way the practice will not be acceptable to 'the establishment.'

[AbbyS]

with this 3rd wave coming, i think maybe even if it has risks, vaccines maybe should be considered seriously

[Tash]

with this 3rd wave coming, i think maybe even if it has risks, vaccines maybe should be considered seriously

Go make sure you stand first line, when there ask to have double dose (just to be on double save side).

What is in Vaccines?
https://youtu.be/pLzWPsb6Sc8

[tvbcof]

with this 3rd wave coming, i think maybe even if it has risks, vaccines maybe should be considered seriously

Go make sure you stand first line, when there ask to have double dose (just to be on double save side).

I'm so sorry that I got trapped outside of the country for the 'great reset', and travel back ('carbon footprint' dontcha know) so that the military vax squads can snatch me up and dose me is infeasible.  So, I officially donate my share to AbbyS for a double-dose of the that designer genetic material with it's luciferin glow ambrosia goodness.

What is in Vaccines?
https://youtu.be/pLzWPsb6Sc8

Hope AbbyS enjoys his double-dose of 2nd trimester (or was it third?) baby tongue cells.  (Actually I would not expect that they would need to use it with the new mRNA technology...unless they want to for some other reason.)

The fact that it is lucrative enough for the 'research community' to station harvest teams and abortion clinics really begs the question of who is doing what with some of this 'material'?  And the the obvious excitement that the baby-part brokers achieve at the mention of an 'intact case'* makes one wonder if the reward they get is exclusively monetary in nature.

(*) An 'intact case' is the head of an aborted fetus which did not get busted open during the abortion procedure.

[franky1]

want to know the real funny part
while tvbcof and tash are talking about old vaccines
while tash shows a video of a 88yo guy being questioned about vaccines available in the 1940's
for instance the guy was a kid in the 40's and polio vaccine was not even introduced until the 50's so obviously he would not have had polio vaccine as a kid
same goes for the measles vaccine.. that was in 1968
the MMR was in 1988
so asking a guy that was a kid in the 1940's if he had a vaccine that had not even been invented yet. becomes obsolete question
its like asking did you get a passport and fly on a passenger plane to someone living in the 18th century. the answer obviously no.. but makes no sense to use that question to then say passenger planes in 21st century are dangerous.

they are very ignorant of the vaccines available today.

there is big reasons why the pfizer vaccine for instance needs to be frozen at -70^o
and a point i keep making but they remain ignorant about
the pfizer vaccine doesnt have all the preservatives and biological and chemical things that used to be in vaccines decades ago.

i find it highly surprising they even understand bitcoin concepts of technology if they want to remain in the realm of old tech/history pre millenium.

its like they want to say fear space travel because 100 years ago man couldnt even fly off the ground
they dont even realise the developments over the last few decades
....
i do laugh when these conspiracy idiots ignore and dont do research on the current vaccine in question. and they can only use old outdated crappy scripts of old unrelated stuff

[o_e_l_e_o]

and they can only use old outdated crappy scripts of old unrelated stuff

Their only "sources" are conspiracy blogs and YouTube videos from conspiracy bloggers. Funny that. Not a single piece of actual evidence. Not a single study, or trial, or case series, or meta-analysis, or systematic review, or literally anything. I wonder why that is? No doubt it's because every single doctor/nurse/pharmacist/scientist/engineer/lab technician/researcher in the world are all microchipped by BIG PHARMA or secretly lizards or something.

[franky1]

and they can only use old outdated crappy scripts of old unrelated stuff

Their only "sources" are conspiracy blogs and YouTube videos from conspiracy bloggers. Funny that. Not a single piece of actual evidence. Not a single study, or trial, or case series, or meta-analysis, or systematic review, or literally anything. I wonder why that is? No doubt it's because every single doctor/nurse/pharmacist/scientist/engineer/lab technician/researcher in the world are all microchipped by BIG PHARMA or secretly lizards or something.

here is the funny part
government dont have enough employees to monitor all citizens.
if a microchip the size of a breadcrumb could monitor everything. then planes would not disapear off radars
so here is a question for the paranoid idiots

governments dont need to make a microchip and try to make it small enough to put into a vaccine. all they need to do is make conspiracy sites and see which idiots find their fake news and repeat it. then put those idiots on a idiot list

[tvbcof]

and they can only use old outdated crappy scripts of old unrelated stuff

Their only "sources" are conspiracy blogs and YouTube videos from conspiracy bloggers. Funny that. Not a single piece of actual evidence. Not a single study, or trial, or case series, or meta-analysis, or systematic review, or literally anything. I wonder why that is? No doubt it's because every single doctor/nurse/pharmacist/scientist/engineer/lab technician/researcher in the world are all microchipped by BIG PHARMA or secretly lizards or something.

Almost anyone who has read the work of almost any of what you call 'their' work knows that you are totally full of shit in everything you just said.  But please keep at it because it just discredits yourself.

Some people here probably do fall for your pathetic 'I'm a real doctor' schtick.  You will demonstrate to even those folks what deceitful and gullible retards 'real doctors' can be.  It is self-evidently the case that very many 'professionals' can be fooled by appeals to (false) authority.  It would take but one well place person who is both smart and sinister to lead thousands of relatively decent 'doctor/nurse/pharmacist/scientist/engineer/labby' to the collective doom, and that is even more the case because a tiny group of people control their paycheck.  And at the present time that seems to be exactly what is happening.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Ahh damn! The real reason is because every single doctor/nurse/pharmacist/scientist/engineer/lab technician/researcher in the world is a gullible moron compared to the awesome intellect of a conspiracy blogger. I didn't have that one on my bingo card.

[tvbcof]

Ahh damn! The real reason is because every single doctor/nurse/pharmacist/scientist/engineer/lab technician/researcher in the world is a gullible moron compared to the awesome intellect of a conspiracy blogger. I didn't have that one on my bingo card.

Not stupid people.  Just years and years of training to accept information in one form from one class of sources (e.g., the WHO or CDC) and regurgitate it verbatim.

In school if these people failed this mindless info pipeline conditioning, the flunk out.  In life if they fail they flush their years in school down the toilet and find a new line of work.  The system is so tight that only a tiny minority who don't perform 'correctly' slip through the cracks to challenge the system from the inside.

Thankfully there are people in this 'fail' category though or we would know much less about the mechanics of the covid-19 hoax.  Unsurprisingly they tend to be eminent people who speak out most loudly because they are more immune from attack by 'the establishment' and in a lot of cases are near or beyond retirement anyway.  There are plenty of others who are doing work more quietly behind the scenes, and their efforts are making a difference as well.