Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[franky1]

mindrust you have just been saying how you want companies in india to make the vaccine via just reading the formula from the internet..
in real life manufacturing companies communicate and have meetings and double check they have the facilities, labour, ingredients and processes.

and before you again pretend that pfizer/moderna are keeping it closed source and in-house, its already been said and has been clear for months that they have outsources around the world

ill repeat the word OUTSOURCED the production to many companies around the world. but. here is the thing.. outsourced to trusted companies that have the high quality resources to do it properly

this means your dreamed up indian pharma company if it was any good would be part of that international network.. but if its just some sweat shop pill mill like i presume your dream manufacturer to be.. it would not

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[BADecker]

I'm sure there is something that we can trust the vacciine for, but we can't trust it for anything that we think we can. Why not? Because to trust a vaccine to help get rid of a virus, you have to have isolated the virus first. Ireland has just found that the virus has never been isolated. Since it has never been isolated, who in the world knows what the vaccine is going after?

It's like going to the automotive store and buying parts for a car that you have never seen and don't know what kind of a car it is.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304853.0

[Natsuu]

I'm sure there is something that we can trust the vacciine for, but we can't trust it for anything that we think we can. Why not? Because to trust a vaccine to help get rid of a virus, you have to have isolated the virus first. Ireland has just found that the virus has never been isolated. Since it has never been isolated, who in the world knows what the vaccine is going after?

It's like going to the automotive store and buying parts for a car that you have never seen and don't know what kind of a car it is.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304853.0

You are part of the mass who misinterprets the documents, aren't you?

If you are looking for the "Isolated Virus in a LAB" you can request a sample here https://www.niaid.nih.gov/research/bei-resources-repository, for your research for free. Although you may need extra cash for the shipping fee though. If you are not satisfied, then you can transact for any other countries who isolated the virus, as early as January.

The article you mentioned have been circulating in social media platforms for a while, and had been debunked by many Virologists, and researchers.

And guess whom the one who spread the misinformation statements? Ms O’Doherty, who have been suspended in social medias for hate speech issues with connection to the virus itself.

[o_e_l_e_o]

It'S nEvEr BeEn IsOlAtEd!1!

Sure, if you don't count the 40,000 times it has been isolated and had its entire genome sequenced. Feel free to browse every single one of those 40,000 episodes yourself - https://www.viprbrc.org/brc/vipr_genome_search.spg?method=SubmitForm&decorator=corona&searchId=44742&runFrom=persistent

[franky1]

It'S nEvEr BeEn IsOlAtEd!1!

Sure, if you don't count the 40,000 times it has been isolated and had its entire genome sequenced. Feel free to browse every single one of those 40,000 episodes yourself - https://www.viprbrc.org/brc/vipr_genome_search.spg?method=SubmitForm&decorator=corona&searchId=44742&runFrom=persistent

badecker has already been shown this. and also individual reports that explain the equipment and the processes and methodologies.

heck even badecker even went into failed knitpick mode by saying things like "but it doesnt include centrifuge" and i pointed out it did. thus fully debunking him.

he then spins it to say its too scientific and he wants a simplified summary.
then he spins the simplified summary to say its not a scientific report(forgetting he got the science already)

he then goes on to how it was not then put into other species to pass the koch postulate.. and i then link him proof it has. he then says koch was passed but not rivers.. again i link that and debunking him further. and i even pre-empted him about the bell test.
then 3 weeks later he pretended to have not been debunked and never had those conversations. and he starts again like a broken record.
im not sure if its ignorance. stupidity, amnesia or dementia. but he just keeps circling the same thing even though its been debunked several times.

[Tash]

In Switzerland is the death rate from the vaccine higher than the death rate fom COVID-19

[o_e_l_e_o]

In Switzerland is the death rate from the vaccine higher than the death rate fom COVID-19

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[franky1]

In Switzerland is the death rate from the vaccine higher than the death rate fom COVID-19

Tash. are you living in a dream. because your posts are not about the real world people live in
stop making things up. its not even entertaining. YOU are the joke, not your post content

[BADecker]

The Nazi's couldn't gain any power in the USA through politics, so they did it by talking the people into believing them. Then they found they didn't even need political power in America. Here we have companies harming and threatening to kill kids, all because people want to believe a bunch of lies. Dr. Fauci = Dr. Josef Mengele.


Moderna starts testing coronavirus vaccine on kids aged 12-17 despite dangers of neg side effects

The coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic continues to ravage countries across the world, with desperate people counting on a vaccine that can help protect them from this infectious disease. And yet despite warnings from health experts about potential negative side effects, Moderna Inc. has already begun testing its experimental coronavirus vaccine on kids aged 12 to 17.

Moderna's vaccine to be completed by 2022

According to a press release from the biotechnology company, the phase II/III trial will involve an estimated 3,000 volunteers aged 12 to 17.

The researchers will give half of the volunteers two shots of Moderna's immunization or mRNA-1273 four weeks apart. Meanwhile, the rest of the participants will receive saltwater placebos.

The scientists claim that they will monitor the safety and efficacy of the vaccine in children. All volunteers will be followed for 12 months after the second inoculation.

In a statement, Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel announced that the company is "pleased to begin this Phase 2/3 study of mRNA-1273 in healthy adolescents in the US." Bancel added that the company aims to generate data by spring in 2021 that will "support the use of mRNA-1273 in adolescents in advance of the 2021 school year."

Bancel concluded that Moderna Inc. wants to produce a "safe vaccine" that can help protect adolescents and ensure that they can soon "return to school in a normal setting."

Clinicaltrials.gov, a registry of clinical trials run by the US National Library of Medicine, revealed that the Moderna Inc. study is slated to be completed by June 2022. The company's vaccine will also be used at testing locations in Idaho, Minnesota, New York, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah.

[Tash]

"..headline from Reuters: Despite hi-tech advances, many Europeans wary of taking COVID shot and that includes more than half of hospital staff."
https://theduran.com/covid-19-vaccine-flops-in-europe-investment-watch/

60 percent of nursing home staff elected not to take covid-19 vaccine
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532198-ohio-gov-60-percent-of-nursing-home-staff-elected-not-to-take-covid-19

[BADecker]

The only reason we have the Coronavirus vaccine, is so that all those syringes can be recycled and sold to the other drug dealers, cheap.

[Tash]

Public Prosecutor Orders Investigation Into Vaccine Quality Control and Says Scientific Answers Are Needed
This decision is truly unprecedented worldwide
The issue of vaccine quality is of extreme importance as the public needs to be certain that vaccine products contain what they claim, nothing less and nothing more.
https://childrenshealthdefense.eu/children-health/breaking-public-prosecutor-orders-investigation-into-vaccine-quality-control-and-says-scientific-answers-are-needed-italy/

[franky1]

"..headline from Reuters: Despite hi-tech advances, many Europeans wary of taking COVID shot and that includes more than half of hospital staff."
https://theduran.com/covid-19-vaccine-flops-in-europe-investment-watch/

60 percent of nursing home staff elected not to take covid-19 vaccine
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532198-ohio-gov-60-percent-of-nursing-home-staff-elected-not-to-take-covid-19

republican complains of pace of vaccine.
republican claims its due to 60% not wanting it.

funny part is the vaccine has only been in ohio for a week. the republican doesnt realise it will take MANY months to vaccinate everyone
if you have 320m people. even if you could vaccinate say 1mill a day. thats still 320 days (10 months)

also the nursing home staff think due to low amount of vaccine. the vulnerable/old that NEED it should get it first and the republican is just saying the nursing home staff should take their dose now because he doesnt know the next time the nursing staff will get a chance later
those saying no now for honorable intentions may not just be relisted at the back of the queue once the old/vulnerable are given theres

[tvbcof]

Public Prosecutor Orders Investigation Into Vaccine Quality Control and Says Scientific Answers Are Needed
This decision is truly unprecedented worldwide
The issue of vaccine quality is of extreme importance as the public needs to be certain that vaccine products contain what they claim, nothing less and nothing more.
https://childrenshealthdefense.eu/children-health/breaking-public-prosecutor-orders-investigation-into-vaccine-quality-control-and-says-scientific-answers-are-needed-italy/

Hurray!

When individuals who had money and technical skill themselves started having trouble with lyme disease some modest private funding went to laboratories and a lot of the mysteries were relatively quickly cracked wide open.  (The microbes, which were almost certainly of bio-warfare origin, (explaining the extreme medical malfeasance surrounding the disease) form biofilms to evade antibiotics.)

Not surprising at all to read that the legal defense against actually evaluating the 'vaccines' to at least see if they are what the manufacturer claimed were based on the legal theory that information can only be considered if it comes from corp/gov captured/controlled labs.

[Gyfts]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access

So what happens when healthcare workers refused to take the vaccine?

Doesn't make much sense for herd immunity when you can't even get enough of the population vaccinated. And these people are supposed to be the healthcare professionals that stand by science? Wonder what makes people question the validity of the vaccine?

[tvbcof]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access

So what happens when healthcare workers refused to take the vaccine?

Doesn't make much sense for herd immunity when you can't even get enough of the population vaccinated. And these people are supposed to be the healthcare professionals that stand by science? Wonder what makes people question the validity of the vaccine?

Ba-ha-ha-ha!  Who could have seen that coming ;^) ?.  So called 'medical professionals' are aware of several things that Joe Sixpack is not:

 - So-called 'Covid-19' is not very threatening and mostly a scam

 - Vaccines often have devastating effects on life and health.  And that is the ones which ARE approved (not just 'authorized'.)

Anyone who doesn't want the shot is an 'anti-science anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist' though.  Who knew that there were so many in the 'medical profession'!?!  Perhaps they need a good. . .talking-to.  . . .perhaps. . .a bit more.

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So many frontline workers in Riverside County have refused the vaccine — an estimated 50% — that hospital and
public officials met to strategize how best to distribute the unused doses, Public Health Director Kim Saruwatari said.

Hey Kim, here's an idea!  Give them to old folks trapped in nursing homes who cannot resist.

Other useless eaters would include the homeless who will trade what's left of their health for a bowl of lentil soup.

And if you have a community occupying a place that the city planners (and their contractor sponsors) want to turn into a 'green space', there's your answer!

[Gyfts]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access

So what happens when healthcare workers refused to take the vaccine?

Doesn't make much sense for herd immunity when you can't even get enough of the population vaccinated. And these people are supposed to be the healthcare professionals that stand by science? Wonder what makes people question the validity of the vaccine?

Ba-ha-ha-ha!  Who could have seen that coming ;^) ?.  So called 'medical professionals' are aware of several things that Joe Sixpack is not:

 - So-called 'Covid-19' is not very threatening and mostly a scam

 - Vaccines often have devastating effects on life and health.  And that is the ones which ARE approved (not just 'authorized'.)

Anyone who doesn't want the shot is an 'anti-science anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist' though.  Who knew that there were so many in the 'medical profession'!?!  Perhaps they need a good. . .talking-to.  . . .perhaps. . .a bit more.

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So many frontline workers in Riverside County have refused the vaccine — an estimated 50% — that hospital and
public officials met to strategize how best to distribute the unused doses, Public Health Director Kim Saruwatari said.

Hey Kim, here's an idea!  Give them to old folks trapped in nursing homes who cannot resist.

Other useless eaters would include the homeless who will trade what's left of their health for a bowl of lentil soup.

And if you have a community occupying a place that the city planners (and their contractor sponsors) want to turn into a 'green space', there's your answer!

Well, I'm thinking for healthcare workers it is sort of a self survivorship bias. They made it so far in the pandemic, why bother getting the vaccine? They've been at this thing since March -- sure they witnesses cases of COVID, but they themselves haven't gotten and died.

So why get the vaccine?

I don't expect healthcare workers to understand how the vaccine works but again, I will never fault a young and healthy person for not getting it.

If you're (not literally you, but generally speaking) old or a fat fuck, put the twinkie down and get the vaccine.

[mindrust]

They simply don't trust big pharma.

They know better than anyone else how big pharma can fuck your body up and still can get away with it.

You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either

If you experience severe side effects after getting a Covid vaccine, lawyers tell CNBC there is basically no one to blame in a U.S. court of law.

The federal government has granted companies like Pfizer and Moderna immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.

Turns out you can't even sue them.

Why would anybody accept to become a test subject for big pharma is beyond me.

[tvbcof]

They simply don't trust big pharma.

They know better than anyone else how big pharma can fuck your body up and still can get away with it.

You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either

If you experience severe side effects after getting a Covid vaccine, lawyers tell CNBC there is basically no one to blame in a U.S. court of law.

The federal government has granted companies like Pfizer and Moderna immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.

Turns out you can't even sue them.

Why would anybody accept to become a test subject for big pharma is beyond me.

This is not new in the U.S..  Went into law in 1986...and we've seen vastly improved health, a sharp decline in autism, and decreasing pharmaceutical drug use rates ever since...

What is new is that they are strong-arming other countries into adopting the same policy.  When a particular bureaucrat fails to sign away the ability of his people to seek some sort of compensation for being maimed quickly enough or break procedural requirements to authorize a secret CDA (as seems to be the case in a certain English speaking SE Asian country I have some familiarity with), the corporate owned Western influenced mainstream media might accuse him or his staff of 'dropping the ball'.

Bill Gates Asks for Indemnity for COVID19 vaccine

[franky1]

healthcare workers want it. but honorably they are saying the old/vulnerable need it more.
however by giving up their 'slot'/appointment. they think they can just get it later. and its now being told to them they probably wont get a second chance

doctors/nurses care more about their patients than themselves and want there to be less people getting sick. however the vaccine co-ordinators are saying the doctors/nurses need to have it first so they dont get sick thus able to treat patients.

its like a ping pong game. one side wants less patients getting sick. other side wants less doctors getting sick so they can continue working

yes a good percentage of doctors will just have 14 days isolation at home with cough and fever. but the co-ordinator knows if doctors get sick from the virus by not being vaccinated thats 14 days not working to look after patients and that can cause more loss of life if theres no one to care for patients.