Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[Tash]

Fuaci Ignores Herd Immunity Principles and Demands 90% Vaccine Compliance Rate -

existing common flus still cause deaths even at what you value as a 60% herd immunity acceptance. which just shows even 60% is not good enough.
yes for months you have been mentioning the death rates due to common flu's so no point back tracking now.

covid is more dangerous and severe and causes more deaths. so needs even high threshold than 60%
remember.. you have already copied and pasted many times that there are X number of people dying from common flu's. so save yourself some time. dont flip flop to debunk yourself

Herd Immunity is a fun thing to talk about. But nobody has proof that it exists. Why not? Because nobody has done studies on good placebo effect, and wellness jumping from one person to another just like a virus supposedly does.

I like it when wellness jumps form person to person.

Vacciners are the medical over-unity loonies.
100% healthy get some poison injected, damaging the outer protective layer in the process, and voila 110% health. Well that's the twisted believe of this folk.

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[franky1]

I like it when wellness jumps form person to person.

if a hug could cure cancer then how come when people get cancer and tell their friends and family(close proximity) and then family give sympathetic hugs.. the cancer does not go away.
seems to me hugs dont cure cancer but are a placebo affect of making people distracted from the symptoms while they are getting a hug.
it does not mean the symptoms are cured by hugs. but its a distraction to not think about them for a moment

EG if you spouse kicks you in the balls. and then kisses you. the shock of the kiss can distract momentarily from the pain. but once the kiss experience settle your then reminded of the pain in your scrotum
meaning the kiss did not cure the scotum injury
and no constant kissing wont help

[BADecker]

I like it when wellness jumps form person to person.

if a hug could cure cancer then how come when people get cancer and tell their friends and family(close proximity) and then family give sympathetic hugs.. the cancer does not go away.
seems to me hugs dont cure cancer but are a placebo affect of making people distracted from the symptoms while they are getting a hug.
it does not mean the symptoms are cured by hugs. but its a distraction to not think about them for a moment

EG if you spouse kicks you in the balls. and then kisses you. the shock of the kiss can distract momentarily from the pain. but once the kiss experience settle your then reminded of the pain in your scrotum
meaning the kiss did not cure the scotum injury
and no constant kissing wont help

The cancer DOES go away. It goes away in all the people who don't get it, because everybody has it. Check out the trophoblast theory of cancer to see what cancer really is. You medical jokers think you can take something as complex as nature and life, and break it down into something simple, boom. Turns out you are the simpletons. All you are doing is trying to make money off people who think you are magic.

[vaultman]

I don’t think it’s a good idea to inject yourself with a substance that has not been scientifically proven to be effective. Only a person who does not value his life and his health can trust himself to strangers, especially in light of the huge number of conspiracy theories that circulate on the Internet. I believe that this virus will be in our lives for a long time, if not forever and so simply some vaccine will not be able to get rid of it.

[_Miracle]

still no vaccine for cancer

I don't think you can ever cure cancer with vaccines. Do you realize what you are saying? Do you even know what a vaccine is?

Yes vaccine is a scam, money grap.
If someone is of the opinion he was born with a defect and some guy in in white coat will correct it by damaging the other protective layer and inject foreign dna and other unhealthy material.
Still no vaccine for aids after 50 years


Add covid now.
After how many injections is someone classified as a addict?

We are so fortunate to live in a time when we have the luxury of calling vaccines scams and hoaxes because we haven't had to live without them.

On the other hand we are in the reality of a world wide pandemic and there are people who are (in earnest) calling it a hoax.

Taking time to observe the effects of a new vaccine and denying the value of long standing vaccines are 2 different things.

[mindrust]

We are so fortunate to live in a time when we have the luxury of calling vaccines scams and hoaxes because we haven't had to live without them.
On the other hand we are in the reality of a world wide pandemic and there are people who are (in earnest) calling it a hoax.
Taking time to observe the effects of a new vaccine and denying the value of long standing vaccines are 2 different things.

We are also fortunate to live in a time where patents exist and used to make money.

If those vaxx makers do all those for humanity, why don't they make their vaxx formula public?

When it is about making money, your health is not in their interest.

[franky1]

We are also fortunate to live in a time where patents exist and used to make money.

If those vaxx makers do all those for humanity, why don't they make their vaxx formula public?

When it is about making money, your health is not in their interest.

when you realise that vaxx companies are not making $1000 a dose and only making a couple dollars a dose profit, you have to start seeing that this vaccination is not the corporate greed plan tinfoil hatters think it is

when you realise that vaxx companies have actually talked about the ingredients. which makes it clear that for instance the pfizer vaccine is the cleanest vaccine without the preservatives(hense need to freeze) you realise the tin foil hatters need to chill out a bit

when you realise that those crying about ingredients have not even bothered to even look for the ingredients. it makes it clear that they are crying about nothing. they should wait until they can actually look for the ingredients. check what the ingredients are and then cry if they dont like the ingredients

EG - pfizer
The Pfizer-BioNTech  COVID-19  Vaccine includes the following  ingredients:  mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl) bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate),  2  [(polyethylene  glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide,  1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine,  and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate,  sodium  chloride,  dibasic  sodium  phosphate  dihydrate,  and  sucrose
(basically protein, fats, sugars and salts)

EG - moderna
The Moderna  COVID-19 Vaccine contains  the following  ingredients: messenger ribonucleic  acid (mRNA), lipids   ( SM-102,  polyethylene  glyc ol  [ P EG] 2000 dimyristoyl  glycerol  [DMG], cholesterol,   and  1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine  [DSP C]), tromethamine, tromethamine  hydrochloride,   acetic acid,  sodium  acetate, and sucrose
(basically proteins, fats sugars, salts, acid/protein regulators)

!! none of the vaccines contain monkey kidneys or fetus tongues or mercury !!

it really does help if you spend 10 minutes researching.. rather than 10 minutes crying about not doing research

[mindrust]

EG - pfizer
The Pfizer-BioNTech  COVID-19  Vaccine includes the following  ingredients:  mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl) bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate),  2  [(polyethylene  glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide,  1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine,  and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate,  sodium  chloride,  dibasic  sodium  phosphate  dihydrate,  and  sucrose
(basically protein, fats, sugars and salts)

EG - moderna
The Moderna  COVID-19 Vaccine contains  the following  ingredients: messenger ribonucleic  acid (mRNA), lipids   ( SM-102,  polyethylene  glyc ol  [ P EG] 2000 dimyristoyl  glycerol  [DMG], cholesterol,   and  1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine  [DSP C]), tromethamine, tromethamine  hydrochloride,   acetic acid,  sodium  acetate, and sucrose
(basically proteins, fats sugars, salts, acid/protein regulators)

!! none of the vaccines contain monkey kidneys or fetus tongues or mercury !!

it really does help if you spend 10 minutes researching.. rather than 10 minutes crying about not doing research

Not the same thing. Are you really that thick to not get this? Why don't go make the same vaccine if you know their ingredients? It should be a very ez process for an expert like yourself.

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

[Tash]

We are so fortunate to live in a time when we have the luxury of calling vaccines scams and hoaxes because we haven't had to live without them.
On the other hand we are in the reality of a world wide pandemic and there are people who are (in earnest) calling it a hoax.
Taking time to observe the effects of a new vaccine and denying the value of long standing vaccines are 2 different things.

We are also fortunate to live in a time where patents exist and used to make money.

If those vaxx makers do all those for humanity, why don't they make their vaxx formula public?

When it is about making money, your health is not in their interest.

Injecting something which is patented also gives the patent owner part ownershiṕ whoever uses it.
And yes ill Gates stated that he expects 20 fold return on every dollar invested. No money to be made with computer viruses this days.

[franky1]

Not the same thing. Are you really that thick to not get this? Why don't go make the same vaccine if you know their ingredients? It should be a very ez process for an expert like yourself.

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

so now you want companies to make 'knock-off's' .. and you want it to be done by unregulated companies in their garden sheds i presume??

seems like you want there to be bad batches that harm people..
seems you want anyone to be able to buy it from shady clinics..
seems you want people to buy vials without knowing whats in it..
seems you want more confusion over the quality and assurances..

after all most of the 'off brand' homeopathic supplements dont contain what the label suggests, yet you now seem to think that if hundreds of random companies started selling vials of 'vaccine' it would be as good as the official one.

oh and as for the 'paying' you do realise that governments have made strict laws and contracts so that pfizer/moderna dont overcharge.. sorry but your lil basement clinic pillmilll vial seller wont be under that same contract and will obviously charge more for a unchecked product. thus doing more harm

..
one day you might realise that if your getting your mindset from some conspiracy website that is telling you to not take tested and regulated medicine and instead purchase their advertised 'remedy' that is not tested. maybe its your conspiracy site that is the profiteering company.

[franky1]

Injecting something which is patented also gives the patent owner part ownershiṕ whoever uses it.
And yes ill Gates stated that he expects 20 fold return on every dollar invested. No money to be made with computer viruses this days.

no. just no
sorry but you have walked into a conspiracy field and fell down deep into a idiot sinkhole.

[o_e_l_e_o]

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

Here you go. The complete structure of the mRNA sequence used by Pfizer: https://mednet-communities.net/inn/db/media/docs/11889.doc

[franky1]

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

Here you go. The complete structure of the mRNA sequence used by Pfizer: https://mednet-communities.net/inn/db/media/docs/11889.doc

dont worry. he isnt interested in the info. im guessing he will next want CCTV footage of the facility. and then documents of the lab technicians life stories. seems he is just trying to grasp at new straws.
if he done his own research if he had actual questions he would find the answers. he just seems to want to cry about something

[mindrust]

Not the same thing. Are you really that thick to not get this? Why don't go make the same vaccine if you know their ingredients? It should be a very ez process for an expert like yourself.

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

so now you want companies to make 'knock-off's' .. and you want it to be done by unregulated companies in their garden sheds i presume??

How did you come up with this idea? I didn't say anything like that.

What's stopping a pharma company from India from copying Pfizer's vaxx right now? (patents, bingo)

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

Here you go. The complete structure of the mRNA sequence used by Pfizer: https://mednet-communities.net/inn/db/media/docs/11889.doc

So this is the complete creation process of the vaccine they made? Nope. It isn't. And I actually fell for it and read the document. I thought maybe I was wrong. Well, wrong alarm.

[franky1]

Not the same thing. Are you really that thick to not get this? Why don't go make the same vaccine if you know their ingredients? It should be a very ez process for an expert like yourself.

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

so now you want companies to make 'knock-off's' .. and you want it to be done by unregulated companies in their garden sheds i presume??

How did you come up with this idea? I didn't say anything like that.

What's stopping a pharma company from India from copying Pfizer's vaxx right now? (patents, bingo)

and what do you think patents are used for.. to protect from companies making.. knock-off

im guessing your next going to say people should own no property and anyone should be free to steal anything.
im guessing your next going to say that people should steal each others idea's and business plans.
im guessing your conspiracy site is starting to puppet you communist ideals.

one day. maybe you will have that enlightening moment that normal people dont want knock off medications with unregulated production.. however pill mill profittering doctors would love to sell knock-offs and off licence meds so that they can charge anything they like.
when you realise the real motives of those crying about patents you will realise what side of the fence you actually sit on in regards to greedy chemical companies trying to sell crap for cash

[o_e_l_e_o]

So this is the complete creation process of the vaccine they made? Nope. It isn't. And I actually fell for it and read the document. I thought maybe I was wrong. Well, wrong alarm.

What do you mean? Any lab with the right equipment can recreate that exact mRNA molecule from the Pfizer vaccine.

[franky1]

and in preparation if mindrust tries to tweak his conspiracy stuff to then say pfizer is only creating the vaccine inhouse to drive up demand and thus price..

ill just say for emphasis. the price is not going to sky rocket. they are already on a fixed price contract for as long as the pandemic continues.
also they are outsourcing production to many companies around the world. but only those evaluated as being of high standards and high ability and capacity.
thus ensuring quality is controlled.

yep its not being made in a single pfizer factory and sent out in piecemeal amounts. its being produced in multiple countries. as is moderna

maybe mindrust shoulda had some research done first. and realised many companies are involved. heck in the 10 minute research i done i found info from as far back as july mentioning all this.

[tvbcof]

So this is the complete creation process of the vaccine they made? Nope. It isn't. And I actually fell for it and read the document. I thought maybe I was wrong. Well, wrong alarm.

What do you mean? Any lab with the right equipment can recreate that exact mRNA molecule from the Pfizer vaccine.

Somehow 'SAR-cov-2' managed to get in it's genetic material code for 'unsafe epitopes' at a high rate.  If a mRNA injects (mis-labeled 'vaccines') are not careful to avoid coding for these protein expression there is a relatively high risk of issues with autoimmunity.  Failure to either avoid this risk or to study it specifically for safety could well prove to be criminal negligence...and that is the best scenario assuming foreknowledge or system design cannot be proven.

The mRNA coders have been warned, the bureaucrats have been warned, the politicians have been warned, and the reader has been warned.

  https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccine-candidates-safety-concerns/

Edit:  Reading through some of the links.  Holy Sheep Shit!  I knew they hated us, but just wow!

Code:

2. DNA size: We have more precisely determined the size of the DNA fragments detected and it has
been established that the DNA contained has a molecular weight of 20,000/60,000 bp. This basically means
that there are no "fragments" of DNA within this drug, i.e. degraded, but an intact genome, belonging to a
male human being, confirmed by the comparison between the fetal DNA of the vaccine and that of the cell
line MRC-5 used for the production of the vaccine.

So if your dose your kids up, who are you adding to your family tree?

Jeff Epstein?


Mel Gates?


The Rebbe?

[franky1]

So this is the complete creation process of the vaccine they made? Nope. It isn't. And I actually fell for it and read the document. I thought maybe I was wrong. Well, wrong alarm.

What do you mean? Any lab with the right equipment can recreate that exact mRNA molecule from the Pfizer vaccine.

Somehow 'SAR-cov-2' managed to get in it's genetic material code for 'unsafe epitopes' at a high rate.  If a mRNA injects (mis-labeled 'vaccines') are not careful to avoid coding for these protein expression there is a relatively high risk of issues with autoimmunity.  Failure to either avoid this risk or to study it specifically for safety could well prove to be criminal negligence...and that is the best scenario assuming foreknowledge or system design cannot be proven.

The mRNA coders have been warned, the bureaucrats have been warned, the politicians have been warned, and the reader has been warned.

  https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccine-candidates-safety-concerns/

your link looks like its a antivax site aimed at brain washing parents
in the multiples sub paragraphs talking about different aspects i picked out lots of holes in their article that are wrong beyond belief

can you try to just find sources not belonging to the nutters of antivax conspiracy sites.. EG if you want to know about the number of mild/severe cases from the pfizer trial. instead of that article saying they could see results.. maybe just try reading the pfizer results
EG out of the 163 people getting covid in the placebo group with varying degrees of minor(symptom) mild_2-3 symptoms) there were 9 that had severe
yep it took me 1minute to google and find that out.

i wont even bother with the other waste of space stuff in that article

[mindrust]

and what do you think patents are used for.. to protect from companies making.. knock-off

im guessing your next going to say people should own no property and anyone should be free to steal anything.
im guessing your next going to say that people should steal each others idea's and business plans.
im guessing your conspiracy site is starting to puppet you communist ideals.

one day. maybe you will have that enlightening moment that normal people dont want knock off medications with unregulated production.. however pill mill profittering doctors would love to sell knock-offs and off licence meds so that they can charge anything they like.
when you realise the real motives of those crying about patents you will realise what side of the fence you actually sit on in regards to greedy chemical companies trying to sell crap for cash

No. I am not going to tell that. Where did I talk about unregulated drugs? Why are you making things up? Now I remembered again why I used to be ignoring you. I should probably keep doing it.

I didn't say the government should take the formula by force and make it public. I said they should have made it open-source themselves by their own will.

What is a knock-off medicine exactly?

Do you consider China's vaccine "a knock off"? What if a big pharma company from India makes the exact same vaccine based on Biontech's data, would you consider that a "knock-off"? What is a knock-off medicine? It either works or it doesn't.

These are not abidas shoes. It is a damn drug/vax.

So this is the complete creation process of the vaccine they made? Nope. It isn't. And I actually fell for it and read the document. I thought maybe I was wrong. Well, wrong alarm.

What do you mean? Any lab with the right equipment can recreate that exact mRNA molecule from the Pfizer vaccine.

And they are not doing it because?