Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[erre]

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly?

Hi,
Thank you for posting a proper question about a reasonable doubt.
This is the same for every new drug: we have to wait time to be sure of long times effect. This is the so-named "phase IV" of a clinical trial, the continuous pharmacovigilance about the long time effect.
In the past some disasters happened (I.e. talidomide), and every error teached us how to develop safer and safer drugs. This shit had been properly tested (please do not belive what you read there), but like every new drug we cannot be completely sure about long time effects, we can just reasonably predict that it is safe.This goes the same also for every new material (i.e. asbestos) or food or technology. We as humanity can only learn from errors and try to develop better and safer shit. We made errors, but they are relatively rare and are becoming rarer as time pass. And they WERE NOT MADE ON PORPOUSE.

Before injecting I checked some info (I have found besides other things a degree thesis on novel vaccines that was pretty instructive, I would share but it's in italian) and I have come to the conclusion that the mrna vaccine is probably safer that traditional vaccines (that are, of course, safe).

This is due to the fact that they have lesser additives (they are not poisons like stated here, but they can cause some allergic reaction when you inject a great number of people, so the lesser the better), have less cross-reactions and they cannot cause the covid disease (some type of vaccine can cause the disease, although it's very very rare).

On the long term, the most probable thing is that you will lose the temporary immunity you had acquired thanks to the vaccine. And stop. This thing degrades fast, and will affect only some of your fat cells of the arm and the memory of your immune system. Those feared of "reprogramming" are not only incompetent in this matters, but also american zoomers who didn't see beatiful cartoons series instructing 90's kids about the immune system and the transcription mechanism.

On the contrary you can read there about my collegue losing her smell and taste after a covid paucisymptomatic infection in march, and for those who develops pneumonia some grade of permanent polmunary damage is not uncommon even in younger patients, also in cases that did never need pulmonary support.

You can choose the risk but you cannot completely avoid it. This is like wearing an armor made of unknown material to combat against a known and dangerous enemy.

[BADecker]

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly?

Don't worry we will learn it in a few years. Let the suckers beta test it first. If you want to be a beta tester yourself, go on get vaxxed.

Right! Even if the vaccine-like test drug doesn't kill the people, they will become so extremely inadequate as human beings that they might as well be dead.

This means that we'll be getting rid of any effective Antifa and BLM people first.

[erre]

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly?

Don't worry we will learn it in a few years. Let the suckers beta test it first. If you want to be a beta tester yourself, go on get vaxxed.

Right! Even if the vaccine-like test drug doesn't kill the people, they will become so extremely inadequate as human beings that they might as well be dead.

This means that we'll be getting rid of any effective Antifa and BLM people first.

AND doctors. Don't underestimate the fact that you are finally getting rid of the 99% of doctors.

[tvbcof]

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly?

rna is not the same as DNA so just avoid talking to idiots calling it gene therapy.

as for other things like can the proteins and enzymes cause long term health risks
well now thats like talking to a vegan about how processed meat causes cancer
if your vaccinated with mrna 2 times a week for 10 years then things could happen.. but thats not reality

in short dont talk to hippies about science. instead read the actual science reports.

mrna breaks down quickly in you body once its done its job. it does not hang around for years
RNA and DNA are different things

DNA is for life rna is for days
RNA does not reprogram your DNA

Don't listen to a dumb-fuck who cannot tell you what a plasmid is. (AstraZeneca + others in the pipeline)

On the different topic of mRNA (Moderna, Pfizer, etc):  mRNA might (or might not) 'break down' in a few days, but it would happen only after it has made a random normal cell in the body of a random type express things like the spike protein on it's surface along with it's normal features associated with a 'self' cell of whatever type it might be.

The whole goal is to make the immune system react against the synthetically sequenced new protein.  If the immune system cannot pick up the newly programmed feature only and starts to think of the whole neuron (or platelet in the case of the dead Florida doctor) as an enemy, then it's pretty likely to provoke autoimmunity.

This 'hurry hurry hurry vax everyone fast fast fast' operating is in theory and in fact an 'authorized' (NOT an 'approved') drug trail and everyone involved is a test subject.  In most trials the experimenter is on the hook for damages.  The exact opposite is true of this one.  The experimenter is specifically legally indemnified against any ill effects from the experiment and the trial subject is pretty much completely on their own.  Good luck to them.  I personally think that the insiders have a pretty good idea of what is going to happen to a lot of the trial victims and it ain't good.  At least for the trial participant.  Some might (and do) argue that it will be good for Mother Gaia and/or the pension funds bottom lines though.

[franky1]

the trial subject is pretty much completely on their own.  Good luck to them.

because the government authorised it. the government is on the hook..
vaccine compensation schemes have been existant and real for decades.
yep its not new last year.

EG if you got food poisonning from a restaurant. which is better. try finding the lawyers of the farmer or seek compensation from the restaurant that served you.
EG if you find a fault with a product. do you try to sue the asian sweat factory. or try getting compensation/refund from the retailer that sold you it

the benefit is instead of a trial subject having to hire an attorney and try suing a private company in another country. they simply file a claim themselves from home with the government
cheaper, faster, easier to get compensation if your claim is real.

trying to sue a international company is not cheap, easy. fast and the chance of getting a positive verdict via court is actually lower.

as for thinking international companies have no punishment they do. its just done by the government not by the citizen. because the government has a harder kick than a citizen ever could

[Tash]

Someone qualified certainly does not trust the trojan horse

[tvbcof]

Someone qualified certainly does not trust the trojan horse

Quick cross-check.  I don't see the guy's name in some quick scans of scientific literature and such...and don't feel like logging into linked in and doing further research at the moment.  I wouldn't circulate this around without some better validation.

[Tash]

Someone qualified certainly does not trust the trojan horse

Quick cross-check.  I don't see the guy's name in some quick scans of scientific literature and such...and don't feel like logging into linked in and doing further research at the moment.  I wouldn't circulate this around without some better validation.

Sure a chinese whispered fakebook story has its shortcomings
A quick 2 sec check spit out this
https://bristol.academia.edu/andyPears

[tvbcof]

Someone qualified certainly does not trust the trojan horse

Quick cross-check.  I don't see the guy's name in some quick scans of scientific literature and such...and don't feel like logging into linked in and doing further research at the moment.  I wouldn't circulate this around without some better validation.

Sure a chinese whispered fakebook story has its shortcomings
A quick 2 sec check spit out this
https://bristol.academia.edu/andyPears

Why, would you suppose, is it that a 'Biomedical Scientist in Immunology' might be associated with the graduate school of Education?

The adversary (mine) pride themselves on deception and lying.  It is not a thing of shame at all.  Just the opposite.  This is why it is so pathetic to see someone with 'Christian Values' so-to-speak berating one of their kind over ethics and being deceitful shit-heads.  They simply have completely different ways of looking at things.  Cass Sunstein made a career out of figuring out devices to trick and 'nudge' the goyim.  That's why I am especially wary for tricks, traps, and schemes.  It's not that difficult or clever to plant false stories (especially when the mainstream media is owned by the tribe), but the perps imagine that it is when they get away with it.  When they don't and get caught, they commonly put on their 'fellow white' persona.

[franky1]

Someone qualified certainly does not trust the trojan horse

Quick cross-check.  I don't see the guy's name in some quick scans of scientific literature and such...and don't feel like logging into linked in and doing further research at the moment.  I wouldn't circulate this around without some better validation.

Sure a chinese whispered fakebook story has its shortcomings
A quick 2 sec check spit out this
https://bristol.academia.edu/andyPears

Why, would you suppose, is it that a 'Biomedical Scientist in Immunology' might be associated with the graduate school of Education?

In the post, the quote is attributed to an individual named ‘Andy Pears’ and carries a picture of what appears to be a staff card carrying that name and the logo of North Bristol NHS trust. NBT confirmed to Reuters on Jan. 20 that Pears had undertaken a student placement at the Trust around ten years earlier, but that there was no further educational or employment relationship with him

he was a student. 10 years ago. not a specialist.

also on further research he is a antifracking, anti gov, freeman conspiracy guy.
he has been arrested many times and appeared in court many times for his radical thoughts.

if conspiracy nuts were atleast smart. they would not be trying to scrape the botto of the barrel of their own cabin fever members as 'proof' especially when the member of their cult they choose has no reputation or experience
its as if they make a call out to their members and ask 'has anyone ever done something atleast slightly related to healthcare. we need to borrow your expired ID and ask you to say a few words in our favour'

andy pears is a complete radicalist. he has fallen deep into the freeman cult and is now self employed scamming funds from people for his advice on how to fill out a car park ticket

[tvbcof]

Someone qualified certainly does not trust the trojan horse

Quick cross-check.  I don't see the guy's name in some quick scans of scientific literature and such...and don't feel like logging into linked in and doing further research at the moment.  I wouldn't circulate this around without some better validation.

Sure a chinese whispered fakebook story has its shortcomings
A quick 2 sec check spit out this
https://bristol.academia.edu/andyPears

Why, would you suppose, is it that a 'Biomedical Scientist in Immunology' might be associated with the graduate school of Education?

In the post, the quote is attributed to an individual named ‘Andy Pears’ and carries a picture of what appears to be a staff card carrying that name and the logo of North Bristol NHS trust. NBT confirmed to Reuters on Jan. 20 that Pears had undertaken a student placement at the Trust around ten years earlier, but that there was no further educational or employment relationship with him

he was a student. 10 years ago. not a specialist.

also on further research he is a antifracking, anti gov, freeman conspiracy guy.
he has been arrested many times and appeared in court many times for his radical thoughts.

 PILATE:  He sounds a notowious thought cwiminal.
 CENTURION:  We haven't got him, sir.

Thanks for pulling up this (seeming pre-canned) bit of research.  Matches pretty much exactly what I had been concerned about.  There were technically insufficient details to the guy's screed which was one of my tip-offs.

Often petty (and sometimes not so petty) criminals are let off the hook if they play a role in state sponsored or approved operations.  It's just the way things work.  They tend to have poor ethics in the first place, and can be thrown right back in the clink if the flap their gums.

[franky1]

also on further research he is a antifracking, anti gov, freeman conspiracy guy.
he has been arrested many times and appeared in court many times for his radical thoughts.

 PILATE:  He sounds a notowious thought cwiminal.
 CENTURION:  We haven't got him, sir.

Thanks for pulling up this (seeming pre-canned) bit of research.  Matches pretty much exactly what I had been concerned about.  There were technically insufficient details to the guy's screed which was one of my tip-offs.

Often petty (and sometimes not so petty) criminals are let off the hook if they play a role in state sponsored or approved operations.  It's just the way things work.  They tend to have poor ethics in the first place, and can be thrown right back in the clink if the flap their gums.

he was not a trained specialist. he was a university drop out.
also his crimes were not thought crimes. but loonatic physical crimes.

he got arrested for assaulting a security guard
he got arrested for harrassing and racially abusing a parking warden.

the reasons for his triggered aggression.
he is part of a freeman cult that believes that people should not pay for things like fines and mortgages

funny part is the security guard incident was where he was a loony trying to stop bailiffs evicting someone that didnt pay their mortgage. and after the arrest the family getting evicted dropped him from their group and disassociated themselves from him.
they didnt want him part of their anti-mortgage/anti-eviction group.
which is when he set up his lame anti parking fines group, begging for money

...
so like i said. if you conspiracy nuts want to try saying something:
1. do your research
2. use actual sources outside of your conspiracy group
3. emphasising (2) dont use quotes of your own nutters as proof
4. actually find true source technical/scientific data. not nutters opinions


even funnier.. andy went on to then debunk himself

Oh crap my original quote has found its way onto Twitter?  I can see people will attack me now claiming im trying to say that people's DNA will be altered or GMO'd etc. That's not what i was saying at all. Thanks to the member for bringing this to my attention, 

[tvbcof]

 PILATE:  He sounds a notowious thought cwiminal.
 CENTURION:  We haven't got him, sir.

Thanks for pulling up this (seeming pre-canned) bit of research.  Matches pretty much exactly what I had been concerned about.  There were technically insufficient details to the guy's screed which was one of my tip-offs.

Often petty (and sometimes not so petty) criminals are let off the hook if they play a role in state sponsored or approved operations.  It's just the way things work.  They tend to have poor ethics in the first place, and can be thrown right back in the clink if the flap their gums.

he was not a trained specialist. he was a university drop out.
also his crimes were not thought crimes. but loonatic physical crimes.

he got arrested for assaulting a security guard
he got arrested for harrassing and racially abusing a parking warden.

the reasons for his triggered aggression.
he is part of a freeman cult that believes that people should not pay for things like fines and mortgages

Dude!  We got it the first time.

He's a scamming douchebag who did the medical/industrial complex a solid by giving their opposition a black eye when some well-meaning simps took the bait.  I've seen this kind of psy-op many times before which is why I had my eyes open for it.  That makes me a 'crazy conspiracy theorist' I guess.  Oh well.

funny part is the security guard incident was where he was a loony trying to stop bailiffs evicting someone that didnt pay their mortgage. and after the arrest the family getting evicted dropped him from their group and disassociated themselves from him.
they didnt want him part of their anti-mortgage/anti-eviction group.
which is when he set up his lame anti parking fines group, begging for money

In other words, he is a 'social justice warrior'.  Or at least that is part of his stage role.

[BADecker]

That's okay. The brains of many of the people worldwide have been dumbed down enough that they voluntarily get the shot. Might as well take 'em the rest of the way.


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A robust new study led by scientists from Yale School of Medicine has comprehensively demonstrated how SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19, can infect the brain and central nervous system (CNS). The study validates a growing body of observational research attributing neurological issues to COVID-19.

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This is worrying because it implies a continuing impact on victims that does not also resolve quickly. 

Too soon for numbers, but it does impact possibly at a threat level not been otherwise detected.

We have heavily over reacted to this disease with strategies that look seriously flawed.  We need real detection of the agency for when the main symptoms have already disappated.

[Natsuu]

That's okay. The brains of many of the people worldwide have been dumbed down enough that they voluntarily get the shot. Might as well take 'em the rest of the way.


New insights into how COVID-19 can impact the brain and CNS [Central Nervous System]

A robust new study led by scientists from Yale School of Medicine has comprehensively demonstrated how SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19, can infect the brain and central nervous system (CNS). The study validates a growing body of observational research attributing neurological issues to COVID-19.

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This is worrying because it implies a continuing impact on victims that does not also resolve quickly. 

Too soon for numbers, but it does impact possibly at a threat level not been otherwise detected.

We have heavily over reacted to this disease with strategies that look seriously flawed.  We need real detection of the agency for when the main symptoms have already disappated.

Ohh spreading awareness now. People really need the vaccine to prevent this from happening.

I don't really understand the purpose behind of you posting the news given that you are the no.1 believer that covid doesn't exist, yet you post a topic regarding the study of possible effect of the 'rona.

Nice development. and Btw, your claim doesn't even connect to the topic you cited. 

[BADecker]

That's okay. The brains of many of the people worldwide have been dumbed down enough that they voluntarily get the shot. Might as well take 'em the rest of the way.


New insights into how COVID-19 can impact the brain and CNS [Central Nervous System]

A robust new study led by scientists from Yale School of Medicine has comprehensively demonstrated how SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19, can infect the brain and central nervous system (CNS). The study validates a growing body of observational research attributing neurological issues to COVID-19.

...

This is worrying because it implies a continuing impact on victims that does not also resolve quickly. 

Too soon for numbers, but it does impact possibly at a threat level not been otherwise detected.

We have heavily over reacted to this disease with strategies that look seriously flawed.  We need real detection of the agency for when the main symptoms have already disappated.

Ohh spreading awareness now. People really need the vaccine to prevent this from happening.

I don't really understand the purpose behind of you posting the news given that you are the no.1 believer that covid doesn't exist, yet you post a topic regarding the study of possible effect of the 'rona.

Nice development. and Btw, your claim doesn't even connect to the topic you cited. 

All that my post which you quoted points at is the fact that the experimental vaccine "drug" is way more dangerous than it could even think to help anyone. That's the awareness people need. And I am helping to spread the awareness.

As far as Covid existing, it absolutely exists. If it didn't, we wouldn't see all the words about it. The things that aren't really proven are:
1. Is Covid a virus?;
2. Is Covid a rogue exosome?;
3. Is Covid a world government tactic for uniting the world under one government?;
4. Is Covid a method certain "State" governments are using to control the populations of their States through lies?;
5. Is Covid merely part of the method for getting Trump out of office?;
6. Is Covid a method being used by many to turn the USA into a dictatorship?

There might be many others. The point is, we don't know what Covid is, and it absolutely might be nothing.

The CDC tells us that in the USA, 96% of Covid reported deaths have causes other than Covid. Sure, Covid might have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but it still was only a straw.

With almost 400,000 so-called Covid deaths in the USA, the 4% that might really be Covid brings deaths down to under 16,000. The trick is, the CDC combined Covid with flu and pneumonia, and stopped reporting on F and P directly. So, we don't even know how many of those 16,000 deaths were really from Covid. Maybe none of them were. Maybe there isn't any Covid in the way we are thinking. Maybe even if it is a virus or rogue exosome, maybe it only ever caused 100 deaths across America.

How much more do I have to take you by the hand and walk you through what's going on, to show you what the dumbing down process really is? Have they dumbed you down so much that you can't even come to a valid conclusion on your own?

[Tash]

Another super star vaccine fatality
Family saying he was healthy and vibrant until he got the shot and things started quickly deteriorating. Damn sad. Rest in Peace Power Hank!
https://web.archive.org/web/20210122193311/https://www.wkrg.com/honoring-hammerin-hank/baseball-legend-hank-aaron-got-virus-vaccine-earlier-in-january/

[BADecker]

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[Gyfts]

Joe Biden's press sec already lying on the first day, saying there was no plan for distribution by the Trump administration which was debunked by Dr. Fauci. Trump admin was on its way to producing 1 million people vaccinated every single day. CNN reporting that Biden was left no plan which, surprise surprise, was not true.

So within a few months we expect to have nearly (or over) 100 million vaccinated? That seems like mass adoption.

[anoncoiner23]

I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?

Well personally already got the virus once, so don't think there's a reason to take it "again", since from my understanding the vaccine just give you the virus.. kind of like a dilemma in my head actually.. contemplating whether i need a vaccine that i already got sick for and came out with flying colors. I rather keep my sense of smell and taste this year. I got it late around September of last year.